Whats this called???

Whats is it called when you hit the wake switch and throw a tantrum then pull back to normal in the air.

Half-Cab Tantrum.

scott anything thrown switch is just called half-cab + whatever you threw.....lets just land the tantrum first mmmmkkkkaayyyy????

wait a min ill eat those words, when you hit it switch its a half cab but i think bringing it back to regular would make that a halfcab tantrum to revert

Half-cab is any trick where you leave the wake switch and land regualr.

okay i was right the first time lol

tantrum + 360, no handle pass= scarecrow?

(Message edited by wakeboardjo on August 18, 2003)

What? Half cab is leave Switch Land Regular, so the tantrum would be called a halfcab tantrum.
tantrum with a 360 and no handle pass is:

Fronside rotation: something yoou just invented
Backside rotation: whirlybird

Scarecrow is a Toe side approach trick , and is a frontroll to revert.

Half-Cab is when you hit the wake switch, do a frontside 180 and land regular. So any trick that involves that rotation will have half-cab in the title.

Chris i think you might be thinking of a big worm which is a combination of a scarecrow and a whirlybird. basically a toeside front with an overhead 3. As for the other trick i would just call it a switch tantrum to revert

a big worm is a toeside front roll with an overhead 540, also called a ts whirly. A diesel is a ts front roll with an overhead 3. I haven't ever seen a diesel done. I would imagine a big worm would be more possible since you're controlling your rotation with your front arm.

What would it be called if you do a tantrum but keep both hands on the handle. My friend named it the Willy Wonka Flip Flop. Anyone else seen this done?

a tantrum is called a tantrum... a plain tantrum involves no switch or 180 whatsoever... a switch tantrum to revert is a half cab tantrum... and a switch tantrum is also called a cab tantrum... half cab= switch approach+ regular landing, cab=switch approach+ switch landing... get it?? there's also a spiderman which is a whirly with the back hand and a mobydick which is a tantrum with backside 360 handle passed...

thane was right about the diesel and big worm...

skerzz... I think that's what they call a frantrum... never seen one and don't even think it deserves a name... same as a tindy grab... just a lame execution of a move...

(Message edited by tantrum20 on August 18, 2003)

Tantrum20- When my friend does it, it looks completely different than a tantrum. The board is tweaked out and the rotation looks different. Looks like a completely different trick. How is it "just a lame execution of a move" when you have never seen one done. IMO it looks 10x better than a tantrum that everyone and their grandma can do.

IMO, keeping two hands on the handle when attempting a tantrum isn't personal style... it's just a misunderstanding of a basic invert...

Jonathan not a bag on you, but a switch Tantrum is called a swith tantrum, not a cab tantrum. In order to call anything "Cab" it has to have at least 360 degree switch frontside rotation.

I usedta could do a HS frontroll really clean. But latley I have been throwing them really wierd and I don't like doing them anymore. The main reason is I don't keep my board perpedicular to the wake so when it is thrown, the people in the boat think I'm doing a two handed tantrum. I even watched it on film and the only thing that let me know when I was trying a front roll and not a tantrum, is that I had two hands on the handle. It's a bad habit that I need to shake. I agree that this trick doesn't deserve it's own name. It's a missunderstanding of a different roll or flip.

Cab is short for Half-cab thats why when a snowboarder or skater does a Cab 540 he hits the jump switch and lands regular. Kristian: only a 180 not 360 and could really be either front or backside.

Is there such think as a h/s front roll? I thought it was a h/s front flip

"Cab" is 360 or more
"Half-Cab" is 180
Cab is short for Cabalairal (Sp) it comes from Steve Caballero pro-skate boarder, and is only switch frontside.

Skerrz - you're exactly right my friend.

Kristian - you're exactly right my friend.

Technically, cab is just used for a fakie 360. Anything more is just a fakie 540, etc. And realistically, you can't cab on a wakeboard because you can't do a fakie ollie off of your nose, but people use the term anyway (more so in snowboaridng than wakeboarding, but you can kind of initiate the spin off of your nose on a snowboard).

I think someone mentioned that a 180 could be a cab if it's frontside or backside. I don't know the history of it, but this is done in snowboarding if you do a switch backside 180. But, in order for it to be a considered a "frontside cab" the 180 has to be initiated off of the nose of the deck. It's weird....

The two handed tantrum used to be performed by brannan johnson. I don't recall if a two handed automatically made you go frantrum, but a frantrum is a combo of a frontflip and a tantrum. It's quite ugly and it isn't a "named" trick so to speak (or not in any respectable way). But, style is subjective so.....

Lastly, there might be a diesel in the april 1997 issue of wakeboarding magazine. I'm tired, so I can't actually remember if it's todd brendel doing a diesel or a big wurm, but todd did invent it (the diesel).

I remember that issue of wakeboardimg mag. I think the Diesel was a ts backroll with the whirly style bs 3. So it looks just like a whirly bird. But I'm not sure.

sorry, about that cab thing... with a fs 360 is what I really meant but I kinda got lost in what I really wanted to say... of course I didn't know that much about it but thanks to kris, I'm now more informed...
oh kris, a diesel is a ts frontroll with overhead 360...

(Message edited by tantrum20 on August 21, 2003)

Yeah, I wanted to say that if any of you have taped any old tour stops, go back and watch the first stop from 1999 because erik ruck threw a diesel in his pass.

I'll look through my vids for that one.
Yeah, I've never seen the diesel, sounds complicated though.
Does anybody know what the ts backroll with a backside 3 over head handle (whirly style) is called??