Axis Wake Pictures and info

http://www.flickr.com/photos/axiswake/

brett check north west wake boarder I posted the link there is a full write up..

(Message edited by liljohn on December 16, 2008)

Cool

I am a very big fan of this boat.
Anyone heard what pricing will actually be?

I don't even think the dealers have heard yet. Maybe someone else has other info though.

Humm where have I seen the "exclusive Axis Auto Set Wedge" before?

Malibu might have something to say if these guys actually sell boats.

The boat is built by Malibu so I don't think they will care.

Brett, I would have to agree with you in that case.

Cool looking boat, I'd love to see one in the water and the pricing.

If they can have it LOADED for under 50k they'll sell but any more than that and I don't see them making it too far

the inside looks great, the outside could use some tweaks

I am in complete shock that Malibu is affiliated with a pickle fork after all these years.

Words cannot describe....

Remember this story a while back?

"Because Axis is answering the needs of consumers in such a specific price point market segment, Axis boats will not be built on the same production line as Malibu Boats. The Axis movement is a completely new way to research, design, build and market entry-level big wake boats. The relationship between Malibu Boats and Axis is similar to the connection between BMW and Mini or Lexus and Toyota. Malibu and Axis are two completely different brands of boats in goal and scope, but they share the same parent company."



http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=1922

(Message edited by cavlxenvy on December 16, 2008)

it's a good idea but I think moomba has a pretty solid hold on the entry market share. Although they do seem to be moving out of the entry price range.
I don't really like the looks of this boat but if it performs well and is priced low enough it will be good for the sport.

It looks like everyone is going over to the pickle fork idea now. What the heck, if that is what the people want, then give it to them.

It is very interesting what they did. Malibu has kind of stuck with what they do and not really copied other ideas to much. This boat seems to take a lot of the features that people like about different boats.

Snapout carpet
picklefork
playpen bow
stadium seating

One thing I really like after reading the link in the other thread that lil john posted is that it comes stock with the triple under the floor ballast but has a quick connection system to have bags added on top of stock.

I pulled this info from another site:

The standard power plant is an Indmar Axis AR335 MPI

MSRP is $39,995... and 44,545 as shown..

If they can get the boat with big ballast, wedge, tower, racks, little audio, trailer, PP, etc etc for 45k I think they'll sell

I heard they are going to make them at the Merced, CA factory instead of the Tenn. when this was first came up.

Well I know someone in one of the pics is in R+D in Merced.

What does a malibu cost?
Can you not buy a malibu for around fifty?
If that msrp is correct I am not impressed.

looks like this will produce a different shape of the wake, this is the first time i have seen anything like this.....

I know when I was taking a tour of the malibu factory in Merced on the 4th, they were building an Axis boat there. It was only in the mold prep stage so I did not see much.

looks like this will produce a different shape of the wake, this is the first time i have seen anything like this.....


That's the floating wedge that has been on Malibu's since 06-07. It's an option on the Malibu's.

When I was at the plant they had the mold for this along with the mold for a 40ft cruiser that they were working on. I will post the spy pics soon.

A malibu LSV 23' (about the same room as a 22' picklefork) is MSRP ~ 65k

^ the VLX is like 58k

** I don't know what they have for options **

this is exactly the boat produced if malibu, supra, mastercraft, and cc all mated and had a single
baby.


malibu- wedge (obviously)
supra- interior
mastercraft- pickle fork
cc- ugly ars tower!

they coulda thrown this bad boy on

Too bad they didn't. It'll be interesting to see how sturdy the Axis tower is.

Nice concept; but the lines are ugly.

While I'm glad they are trying this, its ugly as sin. It looks like a small RZ2. I would have hoped to see more Malibu influence. In this, there is none. If it's 50k its too much. If its 40k its too much. 39 seems ok. Indmar powered?

I would like to see pix of the wake

Man I think that boat looks pretty dope. The only thing I don't like is the lack of side windows. If they could incorporate that into the tower brace it'd look pretty sick. Personally a full wrap window and an Illusion would be perfect.

Hey Axis guys, I volunteer to test ride it for you!

The boat is already starting to grow on me. If it is true that MSRP is 40k base then it will do awesome. I am assuming some but I have been told that it comes with a tandem trailer. If it comes standard with some sort of cruise then that is a great price. If you add the extra ballast bags, wedge, heater, racks, stereo and a cover you should still be in the 42-45 range. That is right on par with a Mobius LSV with similar options but this boat is bigger.

Can't believe they went with the two piece sunpad. At least they used 2 shocks/side.

It is indmar powered. How can anybody think that 40k is too much for a price point boat? Have you seen what other boats are going for. VLX's are probably 60-65 minimum. This boat is also 22' with a 100" beam. It looks fairly deep as well. It is a pickle fork(kind of). This boat compared directly to a Mobius LSV should kill it if they are within a couple grand of each other.

Is Malibu providing the dealer network/service for this boat?

Here is a video of the boat in the pictures. It is not in the water but gives you some better looks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juq0RUfNkxU

I'm starting to think this isn't so much a price point boat, as a way for Malibu to make changes that resemble all the other brands out there without calling it a Malibu. Bet it doesn't price out comparable to a Moomba in the end.
The fancy wheels and stainless fenders on the trailer don't look price point.

The vinyl looks "very" price point though!

I am guessing that the trailer pictured has a bunch of upgrades. I am guessing it probably comes with a standard tandem trailer with regular wheels, fenders, lights, etc.

I guess it is all speculation at this point as to how much of an entry level boat it is since we don't know what they are going to sell for. I say anything under 45k with trailer, ballast, cruise, racks is right on the money.

The vinyl just looks simple to me. As long as it last and is good quality is fine with me. It also doesn't have SS grab rails, SS rubrails, popup bow light, popup cleats, etc. Those are the kind of things that most people don't need.

The boat looks awesome on the trailer.

(Message edited by polarbill on December 17, 2008)

put this on a less elaborate trailer with all the other options shown for 40k, i think it will be a very good seller. I like it.

The article release said $44,545 as shown. As shown with that trailer or is that as shown with no trailer. Add a trailer to that amount and it's going to approach $50k.

I am guessing that is with that trailer. The base boat with a trailer is suppose to be 40k I think. That boat probably has 5k worth of options. If you can get 5-10 percent off MSRP that would put it at 40-42.5. That is not bad at all.

I definitely agree with the window comment. That was the first thing I noticed. Being from WI there are a lot of cold morning and evenings and that thing looks like it'd be windy in the cockpit. Hopefully I'll get a chance to ride behind one this spring. I know my Malibu dealer is getting one in.

ok heres video of the boat..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juq0RUfNkxU&eurl=http://www.wakeboardnorthwest.com/

The boat looks amazing. The window will be a problem for surfing. Passengers are going to get soaked if the boat has any serious surf ballast.

As along as the economy does not tank to bad, this will be my first boat. I like it. the tower looks iffy, but thats not a huge deal.

Definately up in the air on this one - it looks OK, but I will have to see it in person to see where they cut the corners - they could be using extremely "cheap" materials that won't hold up - interior panels that raddle etc - we'll see soon.

Someone else post another one of the video!

Looks pretty good at first blush and being from Malibu I gotta think it's done right. If it's quality is on par with Sanger at that price they should give em a pretty good run for the money. Oh and anyone who says 40-45K isn't entry level enough hasn't got a good look at inboard prices the last 5-6 years.

I like the one gorilla fin!

In the spirit of full disclosure, I got a brand new 07 supra 21v at the boat show in the spring of 07 for less than 45k.... Built specifically for me... Not EVERY option, but it was definitely loaded. Last I checked, Supra is not a price point boat... If I remember correctly, the MSRP on my boat was 60k ish.

The Axis had better come priced better than mid 40's if they are trying to be a price point boat. I think people are somewhat de-sensetized to the prices of boats with all the 70k boats out there, so when they see a new boat w/ MSRP in the 40's they get all googley eyed.

I do like the boat though.. The only thing that throws me a little is the windshield. I'd be down for that price if it is a quality built boat though.

Guys, the MSRP is 44k but how many times have you posted or read on here "who pays MSRP?"

C.R.'s post is funny it's an oxymoron in and of itself.

I think all the Boat critic's complaining about the window would think other wise if they were driving the boat. The same go's for the Nautique 216-V with it's chopped window @ the side. If they were to bring the window and frame all the way back to the base of the tower mount you would have no way of fending yourself off. One of the things I don't like about the Bu's is It's real hard to fend your self off the dock or another boat. The window is right the way. You go to reach out and Bam the window is right there. IMO the chopped window is a great idea on the Axis. You might not like the way it looks but I bet it works great.
You have a boat with tall sides and then wrap around window its like your like in a POD. IMO you sorta miss the "In the wind feel" unless your going 35-mph. Just my 2c. I guess if you were from the cold aeras this wrap around pod feeling of the traditional Bu's and other boats would be a plus. Just go's to show you That you can't make somthing for everyone. Personally I love to be able to reach out and touch the water from almost any seat in the boat and the feel the water. The down side Swamping, I run from wake-surf rollers like a little girl. LOL

They could have at least made the cords in the seats match up. See what I mean:

HATE, WHO YOU CALLIN AN OXYMORON!!!???

After reading my text from last night this morning, it does sound a little goofy.... NOTE TO SELF*** Don't post on WW after taking a sleeping pill... lol

With all that said, I DO like the boat. I think it looks kind of modern and edgy. If they didn't cut corners in the quality, I think this boat will do very well.

Sorry for the rambling... AND NO CALLING NAMES, HATE!?

(Message edited by crushing76 on December 18, 2008)

"They could have at least made the cords in the seats match up."

Seriously, people are concerned about that...how often do you plan on flying over your boat in a helicopter? I thought this thread would have some value but it is just a ton of assumptions about a boat that no one has ridden in yet but already know how good or bad it will be. I'd like to sit back and wait to see one myself before I start forming opinions.

CR, I think you got a really good deal if you got a Supra 21v for 45. The difference is we don't know what is on your boat and you bought it 2 model years ago. I thought 08 well equipped 21V's were going for somewhere around 50k. I could be wrong though.

G, you always think of the little things. The X2 vs SAN thread was a great example and now this. I tend to agree with you on feeling like you are enclosed in a bubble. My favorite thing about my dad's 1983 MC is that you can reach out easy to fend off as well as sit on the side of the boat while your driving. You can't do that on any of the new boats.

It is kind of funny that they didn't match up the piping on the seats, but in my opinion I couldn't care less.

pictures of the wake please...

You might have to wait on that.

mike, it's a discussion board, people are going to discuss. isn't that why you visit this site?

this is a value boat. Not a VLX.. It is not even a Malibu.... So can we please wait to see what it performs like before we dump on the interior....

G, I completely agree with you, my favorite thing about driving a Nautique is the ability to touch the water and feeling connected to the surroundings.

You are the king of custom fab, how hard would it be to design and install window that rolls up/down? Haha I can't believe I just typed that! It'd look pretty dope connecting to the tower. Another thing to break, but still...

What does it's performance have to do with the interior? It performs great or it doesn't. The fact remains some people think the interior is "dumpy".

Stupid, definitely one of the ugliest towers that has ever been created and an impractical windshield. Definitely one of the ugliest designs all around, and I do not understand why malibu even put that design into production. I would much rather buy a used boat for ~50k that is loaded and actually looks decent.

if the wake is sick the boat is legit. if the wake sucks then it is not legit.

Who is selling these in NOR CAL? id love to try one.

Matt- You can live with a not so blinged out interior if it performs well... Also have any of you guys sat in this boat? I bet not. Proof is in the product, so lets see it first. I bet they change the interior as it has gotten smashed on here so bad and not 1 person has sat in it.

Correction Bret, "You", could live with that interior. I don't care how the boat "performs" if it looks like that I wouldn't give it a second thought. That being said these are our 2 OPINIONS. I'm simply commenting that your use of absolutes in both comments is misleading.}

Interesting....If the subfloor ballast can be easily plumbed to additional ballast they are on to something.

I am glad to see more emphasis on value / price. I think there is some more room to go in that direction though. Build a modern SN2001 for $29K and you will have many of the price consience inboard diehards and probably get a ton of I/O owners to convert.

A-dub,
Title of the thread says pictures and info. This is mostly bashing a boat no one has ridden in yet. Not much info. Though I am excited about it and probably will not be deterred by random opinions.

C.R. I just like to keep things light around here.

Interior is very important to me it doesn't have to be all blinged out but it needs to look good and have a good layout. Perfect wake or not I'd pass if the interior was booty. That said this is done by Malibu pretty much known for the best interior's in the game so I trust the interior on these are good.

To me it just looks like Axis/Bu is trying to put out an edgier looking boat something (and I hate this term) outside the box. Like Scion for Toyota.

I agree that the interior does appear to be subpar but i do like that they put padding in the back of the drivers seat so someone can sit right behind the driver comfortably and i also like that they extended the spotters seat all the way across to the driver.. i always hated the stupid walk way to the bow...

That tower is hideous, i wouldnt buy the boat just because that tower is so fugly, the boat would look sick with the Illusion X tower though

I have a feeling the look of the tower and windshield translate a little differently on the water. I do think it would have been better looking and more finished if they could have integrated the tower brace into the windshield but I'm sure that poses a problem for the glass.

the bottom of the boat looks just like a 08 V-ride/old VlX.

People complaining about the interior. Reminds me of the show TOP GEAR. It’s a British car test/review show (check it out its fun). Lots of tong and cheek sarcasm. They reviewed a Corvette ZO6. This is the kind of ridiculous stuff they do. They made it start out a top speed run in 6th gear and go all the way up to 200 mph. It did it amazingly enough. LOL Then they beat the hell out of it. Bottom line is they like'd it. But they had to nick pick it apart. This is where I see a similarity between the comments here and the Top Gear show. They said something like this. "You can buy the ZO6 corvette for 1/4 the price of the Lambo and it performs almost as well as a car 3 times the price. With the Lambo you get 2 things #1 performance and #2 attention to detail. With the Corvette you just get 1 "performance". They were poking fun at the plastic interior pieces and they was the interior was put together ect. So thats where I saw the similarity in the show and this thread. I’m not saying opinions are not welcome but come on. This is supposed to be an entry-level boat. IMO It's like a SION car, LOL it looks good and fun and sporty for a good price that’s it. You want the interior pieces to line up and look correct SORRY you have to buy the full price version. LOL J/K smart thinking Malibu

G, he always seem to day the same thing about American cars they perform well I enjoy driving them but it looks like Fischer Price put the interior together. They poke fun at how we choose to put words on controls as opposed to pictures like European cars. "Like everyone speaks english"

ugly as sin. Hate the windsheild and tower. like the in-floor ballast with pre-plumbed inserts for additional balast by the way. Great idea.

I think the under-seat lighting is an interesting idea. I also think the dash looks pretty good for a budget boat (assuming those little digital displays also house cruise control). I'd want to see it on the water before making a call on the exterior.

If it has a great wake it will sell.

I opened this thread after seeing the word "price point" with an expectation of a much lower price than the 40k referenced here. Maybe because I've usually seen that term associated with the Key west, Key Largos, Pro-lites, etc in the fishing world that wrap up around $15-20k on a trailer.

This boat definately looks slick, but I'm not sure if I see anything new or different here, seems to be the same concept (and price point) as a VRide, Moomba, etc.

I still think there's an opportunity to make a "real" price point boat. Think hull, carbed 350, non-skid deck, white vinyl, basic tower. Maybe made in Mexico. Try to hit the $20k barrier.

I don't want inboards to get that cheap in fact I'd rather they not dip below $40,000 for new ones. I like that there's some exclusiveness to them and it keeps more of the posers outta the deep end of the pool. You want every guy thats been running around in a Bayliner to be in and inboard? Hell no!