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View Poll Results: Which boat do you think?
Master craft X45, 2007. 420 hp. 100 hours 15 27.27%
Supra SSV20, 2009. Donít know hp. 120 hours 2 3.64%
Super Air Nautique 210, 2008 (interior from 2009). 343 hp. 602 hours 23 41.82%
Nautique 236 Team Edition, 2007. 390hp. 480 hours 15 27.27%
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Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-18-2015, 2:20 AM Reply   
Hi,

Iím finally getting a new boat. I ride behind a Ski Nautique 2001 from 1989 now, and Iím really tired of it so itís going to be awesome.

However Iím not sure which one to choose, and the information about ĒoldĒ boats are pretty limited (at least I can't find it), so thatís why Iím asking for you help here. I have never ridden a modern wake boat before, except for an Super Air Nautique from ~2005, and it was a long time ago and I wasnít a very good rider than so I can not say much about it.

Iím from Sweden so there are not a lot of boats on the market. Iíll show you the ones available at the moment below. Tell me which one(s) you like and why.

What I value the most is:
- Good engine, I want as little problems as possible.
- As low fuel consumption as possible.
- The best wake, not necessarily the biggest (because I guess all of them are a lot bigger than my current boat)!
- I will mostly wake, but also surf a lot so it's important it's good for surfing too.
- Quality feel.

What I value the least is:
- Looks.
- A few bucks more or less (however I can not afford more expensive boats than this, and there are none available anyway so).
- "Family" rides, this boat is for wakeboarding/surfing.

The boats available are:
- Master craft X45, 2007. 420 hp. 100 hours. 58 000$ (50-55 after bargain?). Link: http://www.blocket.se/gavleborg/Mast...87660.htm?aw=1
- Supra SSV20, 2009. Donít know hp. 120 hours. 41 000$ (37Ė38 after bargain?). Link: http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Supr...36159.htm?aw=1
- Super Air Nautique 210, 2008 (interior from 2009). 343 hp. 602 hours. 48 000$ (43-45 after bargain?). Link: http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Super...48790.htm?aw=1
- Nautique 236 Team Edition, 2007. 390hp. 480 hours. 51 000$ (I have spoken to this guy and he is willing to sell it for 42 0000$. Link: http://www.blocket.se/dalarna/Nautiq...02484.htm?aw=1

At first I was totally determined of the last one. Then I google some and found that it was called Cross Over Nautique(?), which I didnít like, because it seems to be more like a family boat and less wake boat. But maybe I wonít notice any difference? The Supra looks nice, the newest and the cheapest, but Iíve heard the Nautique makes better boats (better quality etc) and I guess theyíre more expensive as new. The 210 is nice, depending on what I can bargain the price to. Is 600 hours a lot?

Finally a question. Whatís the fuel consumption for these modern boats when riding with normal weight? RoughlyÖ I spoke with a guy whoís got a Centurion Falcon V 2010 I think and he said it consumes ~11-12 liters/hour with 10 people in it. Is that true or is he bull****ting me? My Ski Nautique consumes like at least 30 liter/hour.

Please help me!
Thank you so much in advance!
// Adam
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-18-2015, 4:22 AM Reply   
No doubt about it........as far as a pure wakeboat the 210 is it. The boat is phenomenal. It even surfs way a over average for a 21ft'r that's primary job is wakeboarding. The PCM 343 is a proven rock solid powerplant. The 210 will also be the most fuel efficient out of the bunch due to fact it will require the least amount of weight of the boats you mention to get the wakes boosting.

600hrs on an 08 is right one the "normal category". 80-100 hrs a year in warm climates is pretty standard. These engines will last if they are maintained properly. Just keep on top of fluid changes and all will go well.

Last edited by xstarrider; 05-18-2015 at 4:24 AM.
Old     (Froggy)      Join Date: Nov 2013       05-18-2015, 5:05 AM Reply   
Nautique 210 all the way one of the best all around boats made . 2008 was a good year the last year before the Links digital dash system. If you are looking for a boat that can ski,surf and has a world class wakeboard wake the 08 210 is at the top of the list.
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       05-18-2015, 8:05 AM Reply   
I would go with the X45. Tons of room, great layout, tons of storage. It has a very clean and easy wakeboard wake that has a great shape, and a nice solid feel and is great at a very wide range of speeds. Excellent surf wake for a boat from that era as well. Also handles excellent for a 24'er. (obviously not going to handle like a 21', but for a 24' it is excellent.)

No doubt the 210 is also a great choice, but the thing is tiny, and you end up with no storage when you add enough ballast to have a dynamo surf wave. It would certainly be on my radar in this scenario, but I just wouldn't be able to look past the space advantages of the X45, and the X45 is no slouch in the wake/surf department.


Fuel consumption would obviously not be quite as good, because of its size.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-18-2015, 8:14 AM Reply   
Thank you very much for your detailed answers, very interesting.

Do you have any idea how much fuel they would consume? Rougly!
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2015, 8:50 AM Reply   
Are we sure the supra is a ssv20 LOL

it a launch 20 SSV


I own a supra and out of the those boats it's a 210 every day of the week.
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-18-2015, 8:57 AM Reply   
My vote is the 236.

The 236 is same hull as a 230, with plenty of storage, and with a lot of extra ballast...the ZR6 engine performs great! ive loaded my 236 with 3700 lbs of ballast and it planned out good, it was sluggish coming out of the hole but did fine. Handles choppy water WAY better than the Ski nautique that you have, i also have a 79 ski nautique that i use to use for boading.

FULLY loaded for wakeboarding my ballast consists of:
550 Lbs x2 ( each side of the engine, 1100 lbs total)
400 Lbs belly tank ( factory)
600 Lbs arrow sack in the belly
600 Lbs v sack in the bow

As for fuel consumption:

No ballast 5 people (or just cruising around)= 2.7 GPH /10.23 LPH... we fall a lot so less stops would probably net us at 2 GPH/ 7.58LPH

@ factory ballast (this is estimated) = 3.5 gph /13.27 LPH

full ballast for wakeboard (3000Lbs) = 5GPH /18.95 LPH

Over all i LOVE my 236, only way ill upgrade is for a G23 in the future. But right now the wake is over my skill level and very rarely fill her full, my biggest selling point over the 210 was the walk way through the sun deck, I do not like people walking on the vinyl.

Last edited by 230Nick; 05-18-2015 at 8:59 AM. Reason: missing some words
Old     (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       05-18-2015, 9:54 AM Reply   
10L/hour of actual riding is total BS. No way.

You can expect about 15-20 Liters per hour when weighted for wakeboarding or surfing.
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-18-2015, 10:15 AM Reply   
im just reporting back on real world fuel consumption from my last trip out (1 week ago) of constant riding, and very little cruising. Average MPH wakeboarding no ballast was 19-20mph. and with the ACME 1235 prop the sweet spot for cruising is 25-26 mph.

Any speed north of 26mph an fuel consumption drops off dramatically!
Old     (dvsone79)      Join Date: Dec 2012       05-18-2015, 10:18 AM Reply   
If you care most about engine/wake performance then the 210 is the one for you.
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       05-18-2015, 10:27 AM Reply   
SAN 210 without a shadow of a doubt.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-18-2015, 10:46 AM Reply   
Serious Wake Boat is Serious

I vote X45. Lowest Hours and the biggest motor.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-18-2015, 12:34 PM Reply   
I had an 88 Ski Nautique 2001 for years so I was used to the same hull as you.

I honestly think you'll be happy either way with the 210 and 236. Don't let the crossover idea scare you. As Nick stated, this is the same boat as the 230, which is a really great wake. I had no problem with transitioning to the 230. 210 is just as good and you may save some money in gas in the long run but you're paying a lot more upfront. Let us know what you decide. Good luck!
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-18-2015, 12:37 PM Reply   
Not meant th hijack this thread but is there a particular reason you omitted the Malibu VLX with the very reliable 340 Monsoon?
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       05-18-2015, 2:31 PM Reply   
From the original post:

Quote:
Originally Posted by zlaskarn View Post
Hi,

I’m from Sweden so there are not a lot of boats on the market. I’ll show you the ones available at the moment below.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-18-2015, 3:50 PM Reply   
Thanks a bunch for all the answers, even better than I was hoping!

So, for now it definitely feels like I'll go for the 210 or 236, which I'm glad for because they were really my favorites. I don't like the look of the X45 (which I know I said I didn't care about) and the Supra doesn't feel like the same quality as Nautique.

Because of the fuel consumtion (which I really appriciate your facts about), your praise about the engeine and the fact that a few more of you think it's the best one, maybe the 210 is the first choice at the moment. But I still really like the 236, especially since you said it's the same hull as the 230. It's more boat for the buck, bigger (more seats, more storage) and bigger engine (not sure if this is good or bad though...).

However I talked to the guy with the 210, and he didn't want to bargain for now. But he put it on the Internet yesterday, so I can understand that he wants to check out the market. So for the moment the 236 is the choice, because of the price (6 000 less).

Just keep the experiences, opinions and knowledge coming, it's really helpful.

This forum was great. Maybe you guys can help me nail that 540 later this summer.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-18-2015, 3:55 PM Reply   
You say that the 236 is close to the same boat as the 230. But there must be some difference. I mean, it's not called "cross over" just for marketing? Do you know?
Old     (wakesk8er2)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-18-2015, 4:08 PM Reply   
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there is no difference between 236 and 230. It seemed like one of those situations where it was accidentally good for wakeboarding when loaded down. When they figured it out, they changed the name to fit in the SAN series. I'd be all over the 236 if I were you. Big boat, lots of storage, not a ton of bells and whistles to break.
Old     (matty_gs)      Join Date: Sep 2008       05-18-2015, 4:10 PM Reply   
I agree. I think the 236 is the exact same hull (not sure of interior layout). For just a wakeboarding standpoint, I'd go 236. For looks + wake, I'd go with the 210.
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2015, 5:35 PM Reply   
I think the only difference is back when they first came out the 236 had a different tower than the 230
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2015, 5:37 PM Reply   
The 236 had the better tower that follow the windshield better.
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-18-2015, 5:41 PM Reply   
I guess could have wrote this in one post but my mind doesn't work that way LOL

The 230 tower is like the tower on the 210 you listed above
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       05-18-2015, 6:08 PM Reply   
Your list of boats is really varied in size. If you like the 210 or the Supra then you will not like the X-45 and vice versa. Towing, parking, driving, and interior room are all really different. You can eliminate some of those quickly if you figure the size you want.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-19-2015, 1:19 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by rallyart View Post
Your list of boats is really varied in size. If you like the 210 or the Supra then you will not like the X-45 and vice versa. Towing, parking, driving, and interior room are all really different. You can eliminate some of those quickly if you figure the size you want.
I really have no idea what size I like the best, that's why I'm asking you. I have never even seen one in real life. However, the boat will always be in water, never will we drive around with the car if that's what you mean with towing and parking.
Old     (gator808)      Join Date: Jun 2014       05-19-2015, 3:49 AM Reply   
210 all the way....I had a 04' 210 and my wake was insane. Especially when I filled my ballast. I have been behind the master craft as well. The two big differences you will see is the 210 wake is narrower but very steep. The master craft is wider and very mellow. Just depends on what your more comfortable with. Most people like the rampy wave because you shoot almost straight up immediately. Take a couple of times to get use to it if you haven't been behind one. Good Luck!
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-19-2015, 5:03 AM Reply   
A team edition 236 has belly ballast and an stern tanks, a non team just has stern tanks.


Now the big differences between a 230 an 236

Prop- can't remeber a factory 236 prop
Once a acme 1235 prop is installed on a 236 it's not the exact same as a 230

Interior
236 doesn't have all the fancy interior color options from a 230.

My friend owns a 2011 team 230, an only differences between his boat an mine is newer tower, an gauges, mine has the bigger engine over his boat an it shows.

Go crawl through a 230, then go check out that 236, everything is pretty much the same.

The story goes from what I understand: that nautique created the 236 an couldn't get the pros to board behind a crossover boat so relabeled it in 2008 to 230 super air nautique. And in 2009 was last year a crossover "236" was offered
Old     (Froggy)      Join Date: Nov 2013       05-19-2015, 5:50 AM Reply   
Only reason I went with a 210 over the 230-236 was the ski wake . We don't have a big crew most of the time so having a boat you can still slalom ski was more important than the extra room. Both are great boats you cant go wrong with either.
Old     (davez71)      Join Date: Oct 2007       05-19-2015, 6:46 AM Reply   
Having owned an X45 for 4 years I will say that I would put that stock wake and the wake with additional ballast against any of the others mentioned. The X45 with stock ballast will be larger than all of these mentioned and have a better shape. All of the Nautiques, which are great boats, require additional ballast in order to get a nice wake. The 210 with additional ballast is like hitting a bring wall. Its a great wake but not for everyone and its very narrow. The 210 is a small boat and will get cramped with a group of people.

If you ride with a big crew the X45 is the best boat for you. It will have the fit and finish you want, the room and the wake/wave that you want. I loved my X45. Its easy to set up for surfing as well. I made the switch from a Malibu VLX to the X45 and it was a night and day difference. The X45 stock wake was bigger than my VLX with 1500 additional. I cant say enough good things about the X45. Just make sure it has the bigger engine which it looks like this one does. MC wont get much love from WW as they tend to hate MC. IMO had the X23 not come out and my dealer not make me such a killer deal, I would still have my X45.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-19-2015, 6:51 AM Reply   
A X45 weights 6200 pounds.

A 210 weights 3800 pounds.

There's your extra ballast.

Kind of an odd selection of boats to compare. Long, short, wide, narrow.........
Old     (davez71)      Join Date: Oct 2007       05-19-2015, 6:56 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
A X45 weights 6200 pounds.

A 210 weights 3800 pounds.

There's your extra ballast.

Kind of an odd selection of boats to compare. Long, short, wide, narrow.........
Completely Agree with you there. This is very wide range and style. the Supra and the 210 compare and the 236 and the X45 compare.

I think the Op needs to figure out which size best fits his needs.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       05-19-2015, 9:30 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by davez71 View Post
Having owned an X45 for 4 years I will say that I would put that stock wake and the wake with additional ballast against any of the others mentioned. The X45 with stock ballast will be larger than all of these mentioned and have a better shape. All of the Nautiques, which are great boats, require additional ballast in order to get a nice wake. The 210 with additional ballast is like hitting a bring wall. Its a great wake but not for everyone and its very narrow. The 210 is a small boat and will get cramped with a group of people.
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These comments are completely in accurate about the 08 210. The boat and hull were completely revamped in 2007 and then the top deck tweaked in 08 once again. The wake is not the brick wall of the past 99-06 Super Air 210. It's actually very user friendly. It's mellow without weight and with the hydrogate engaged. It's also pretty mellow ( to that of the old @99-06 210) weighted up factory. I have no issues getting it clean and rampy at 17-18mph. Then loading it up at 24.5 mph with extra and getting a nice hard lip. On a 99-06 210 I used to ride 80-85ft at 24.5 mph. This boat I am at 75ft. It's is not narrow like the 99-06 210 and the boat is no where near cramped. It holds 8 adults easily with the reversible seating option. While I wouldn't recommend a 210 if your regular crew was 8 adults it still can handle it easily on occasion. The 07-13 210 gives you a huge cockpit area at the cost of a smaller bow area. They only one I may agree with is the storage aspect. Until the G series nautique's always had a bit of a storage issue, but even with the 08 210 you get ample storage, but nothing above ample like say and X15. All those comments posted in this response are a 100% dead on for the 99-06 model year, but they are completely false for the 07-13 210 hull run.

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Last edited by xstarrider; 05-19-2015 at 9:34 AM.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-19-2015, 1:21 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by davez71 View Post
Completely Agree with you there. This is very wide range and style. the Supra and the 210 compare and the 236 and the X45 compare.

I think the Op needs to figure out which size best fits his needs.
Yeah, I get that now. As I said earlier I have no experience what so ever of these boats, I haven't even seen them, or any other wake boats for that matter, in real life. So I have no idea what I want.

From what I've learned here, I think all three boats (except the Supra, because no one recommends it) would suit me.

About the storage and room. The boat we have today (Ski Nautique 2001 from -89) have three good seats (including the driver) because we have removed the sofa in favour of the fat sacks. And except for the bow, there is no storage at all. So I guess we would think anyone of them would have awesome storage. Except maybe for the 210, because some of you says it's small, and this 210 also has a fligh high system added, total of around 1 200 kg, so I guess there's not a lot of storage left... And I can't deny that the extra room for 10+ people would be nice.

About the wake. Have anyone ridden the boat I have and one of these Nautiques and can share your experiences? As I said I have nothing to compare with, but I think my boat's wake is pretty narrow and steep, and I think it's a bit hard to get control in the air. I think I would prefer a bit rampier and mellow wake. But from what I can tell of all the comments, it seems like I would like all of the boats' wakes...or don't you think?

So for now it totally sounds like the Nautiques are the boats for me (I would probably like the X45 too, but it's much more expensive, and a bit above my budget). Maybe the 236 is a little bit favour, but I think the price will decide.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-19-2015, 1:25 PM Reply   
A question about Centurion boats. In Sweden Centurion is actually the best-selling wakeboard boat. From time to time the Falcon V is for sale. What would you say about this boat (2007-2010) compared to the Nautiques?
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       05-19-2015, 1:41 PM Reply   
Nautiques are built to last. Their boats show less wear and tear. The vinyl, gel, foam density, and dozens of components that you would never consider (like the little shocks, latches, and hinges that move hatch covers) are high quality and more securely mounted. The Correct Craft is going to be more sturdy inside and out. The more expensive boats require less work to keep them together.....generally.
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-19-2015, 7:09 PM Reply   
Ive never ridden behind a 2001 Ski nautique, but i use to ride behind my 79 Ski Nautique, the wake is smaller than your 2001 and narrower and would get super steep real quick with weight in the 79..

The 2001 model SN is supposed to be very similar to a 95-06 210 super air nautique just not as big but have the same shape.

I cant speak to the 08 210 from personal experiece, but by going by all the research i have done ( because i reallly wanted a 210 at one point) was that the 07+ 210 has the notorious steeper nautique wake with the pop that really boots you up, compared to the rest of the wake boats out there, but no where near like hitting a brick wall of the 95-06 210 that just boots you straight up.

Now i can comment about comparing the wake from a 79 SN to a 236

After riding behind the 79 and going to the 236 with factory ballast will be intimidating to say the least lol. The wake has a very nice shape between ramp and steep, but not overly steep in that its easy to keep control of the jump from the beginning. Unlike the 79 weighted was that it was difficult to not hit the wake hard and stay in control

The two pictures attached
The top is of me riding, 4 people in the boat, The picture doesnt show the shape or size very well... but gives you an idea.

The camera angle depicts the wake being more rampy than what it actually is.

now the one of just the wake... is loaded with ballast if i remeber correctly, 1000 lbs in stern, 1000lbs in the belly and 650 lbs in the bow.
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Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-20-2015, 2:40 PM Reply   
Nick: Sounds like I'll like the 236!
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-20-2015, 8:02 PM Reply   
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Nick: Sounds like I'll like the 236!
You will love it! The fit and finish is awesome, an with the closed cooling it's easy to winterize... WAY easier than your SN.
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-20-2015, 8:08 PM Reply   
Oh yeah also, check out planetnautique.com there is some real knowledgeable guys on that page and we all are Nautique purests, and if you go to the correctcraftfan.com page they are the older nautiques but a lot of good guys on there... An if you check out just the main page and watch all the pictures they are showing my all white 236 will show up
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-21-2015, 1:10 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by 230Nick View Post
Oh yeah also, check out planetnautique.com there is some real knowledgeable guys on that page and we all are Nautique purests, and if you go to the correctcraftfan.com page they are the older nautiques but a lot of good guys on there... An if you check out just the main page and watch all the pictures they are showing my all white 236 will show up
http://correctcraftfan.com/images/slider/boat2.jpg
This one? Looks great! Shiny!
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       05-21-2015, 4:15 AM Reply   
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Yup thats her! I use one bottle of meguirs or turtle wax and dry a weekend. It gets whipped down every day it comes out of the water an dosent set in the water longer than 2 days max
Old     (WLF)      Join Date: Mar 2010       05-21-2015, 7:53 AM Reply   
Like other people have said...big difference in the boats, & they would all be great, but I would vote for the X45...probably the best layout MC ever made, & extremely versatile. +1 got going with the biggest engine
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-21-2015, 3:36 PM Reply   
Seems like a lot of people like the MC too, at first all were "Nautique!". However I'm still more for the 236, especially since the MC is so much more expensive.

No one know anything about my question about Centurion Falcon V (2007-2010) compared to the Nautiques?
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-21-2015, 4:02 PM Reply   
Stick with the nautique over the falcon v.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       05-24-2015, 5:06 PM Reply   
Another modern boat was put on the market today in Sweden: Malibu vRide 2007, 31 000 $. I guess it's not even comparable to the Nautiques, but anyway a nice boat:
http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Malib...89117.htm?aw=1
Old     (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       05-27-2015, 7:32 PM Reply   
Sorry don't have time to read the whole thread, but don't you have a fuel leak somewhere?
"My Ski Nautique consumes like at least 30 liter/hour."
I have an '85 2001 so basically the same boat. Mine uses around 15 liter per hour. Fully loaded maybe 20, tops.

I'd pick the 210 or 236.
Old     (davez71)      Join Date: Oct 2007       05-28-2015, 5:12 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlaskarn View Post
Seems like a lot of people like the MC too, at first all were "Nautique!". However I'm still more for the 236, especially since the MC is so much more expensive.

No one know anything about my question about Centurion Falcon V (2007-2010) compared to the Nautiques?
I would stay away from the older Centerions. IF your going to buy a used boat I would stick with the MC or CC.

The X45 is a great boat, and will hold its value as its one of the best layouts in the industry. The CC will be quality boats as well. if you get either Im sure you will be happy. Just make sure you get the biggest motor that you can.

As for the Vride, the boat was built based on the older style VLK. It was always a the oldest design. They are the axis of that time.
Old     (boardjnky4)      Join Date: Dec 2011       05-28-2015, 6:24 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlaskarn View Post
Another modern boat was put on the market today in Sweden: Malibu vRide 2007, 31 000 $. I guess it's not even comparable to the Nautiques, but anyway a nice boat:
http://www.blocket.se/goteborg/Malib...89117.htm?aw=1
vRides are GREAT boats with solid wakes at any speed. Can't go wrong there.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       06-06-2015, 6:52 AM Reply   
Hi guys,

We have decided to buy the 236. We have also bargain the price to 38 000 $, which should be a really good price, right? Especially since these boats have to be imported from the US which is kind of a big cost.

So, when we go get the boat, do you have any tips on what we should look for? Usual problems, etc..
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       06-08-2015, 4:33 PM Reply   
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Old     (sja)      Join Date: Jul 2012       06-08-2015, 4:40 PM Reply   
Nice looking boat!
If you haven't already, go to Planetnautique.com and find load of info and opinion on your new boat. Very good forum with surprisingly little in the way of brand bashing and cheerleading one may expect from a brand related forum.
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       06-08-2015, 4:42 PM Reply   
Thanks, I will!
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       06-08-2015, 5:06 PM Reply   
Congrats
Old     (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       06-08-2015, 7:47 PM Reply   
Sick boat man, congrats!
Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       06-15-2015, 1:19 PM Reply   
Thank you guys, it's awesome, I'm so happy
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-15-2015, 1:41 PM Reply   
Awesome boat! Congratulations!
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Old     (zlaskarn)      Join Date: May 2015       06-15-2015, 2:14 PM Reply   


I got a new board too. Hyperlite State (2015) with system bindnings. Rode for the first time this weekend and it was really awesome. Have been riding a 10 year old Liquid Force Substance since my first day, so I'm really exited about riding a new board.
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       06-15-2015, 3:07 PM Reply   
Superb choice you made there.
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       06-16-2015, 1:27 PM Reply   
Nice crossover boat

Moving from a substance to a state... how'd that go?
Old     (230Nick)      Join Date: Mar 2014       06-16-2015, 2:34 PM Reply   
If your boat is still factory ballast I highly recommend these bags listed below! I have them in my rig

This v bag goes under the bow seating.
http://www.wakemakers.com/fly-high-i...d-bow-sac.html

This bag goes down into the ski locker. To have this setup to auto fill, my hard tank over flow in the belly fills this bag, and the over flow from the arrow bag fills the v bag under the bow seating
http://www.wakemakers.com/nautique-a...ocker-sac.html

I bought two of these bags, I put them in the rear lockers. I like to surf that's why I went with 1100Lb bags, an you must remove the old hard tanks. Which works out great when your done for the day because you gain massive amounts of storage. The key is to not forget about your surf board before you fill the ballast... I crushed my board, but it didn't hurt the boat nor the bag.
http://www.wakemakers.com/wakeboard-ballast-bags

My rule of thumb for ballast is, i like the belly tank an bag full, an bow full, then add enough rear ballast till the swim platform stays slightly above the water surface while your standing on it.
The wake dosent get to steep, but if you want it steeper add more rear ballast... Also more passengers you have the more crucial it is they are distrubeted evenly across the boat. An if everyone's in the back add bow ballast.

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