Evan:
I can do those inconsistently (Indy TS BS 3). The problem is the occassional trainwrecks involved since it's so easy to loose your axis. When I screw them up I ten to over rotate them and land in the trough backwards... ouch. When I do them clean it's my favorite trick. It looks good since you can grab for so long. Try pulling 90 percent with the front handle and exaggerate pushing your chest up off the wake. That helps me at least.
Oh yeah, wrapping is not cheating if it either makes the trick look better or if you just prefer doing them that way
(Message edited by Blabel on August 23, 2006)