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Old    deltahoosier            02-28-2017, 6:00 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by TheWakeIsReal View Post
Again, you are talking about something completely irrelevant from the conversation I was having. I really wouldn't go down the road of blacks beating up whites though. I can guarantee you that you can find much more of it going the opposite way.

So do you have anything to say about what I was talking about? Or should we just move on?

And did you ever look up the history of small government vs big government parties in slave times?
Not true.

For murder:

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles...by-the-numbers

The statistics show that the 500 killings of white people attributed to blacks last year
The 229 black lives taken by white killers last year
Among the roughly 6,000 cases in which the race of the victim and the offender were known, the number of blacks killed by blacks rose to 2,380 last year, an increase of about 8 percent from 2014.
Old     (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       03-01-2017, 2:25 AM Reply   
Great address to Congress by our President yesterday. Watching all the moderate/sane DEMs soften as the speach went on was fun.

Economic Nationalism over Socialistic Globalism all day long!


Last edited by diamonddad; 03-01-2017 at 2:26 AM. Reason: xx
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-01-2017, 5:24 AM Reply   
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Great address to Congress by our President yesterday. Watching all the moderate/sane DEMs soften as the speach went on was fun.

Economic Nationalism over Socialistic Globalism all day long!

How much longer do we have to wait for this "Economic Nationalism"? Candidate Trump promised to go after China "manipulating their currency" on day one of his presidency. Instead, we get the immigration ban and Trump's lifting Obama's ban on the mentally ill buying guns.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-01-2017, 1:26 PM Reply   
In my opinion Trump gave a great speech last night. It was sad that 1/2 of the House is/was devided because he didn't say anything in my opinion that was not offensive or deviceave. Seeing the Dems just sit on their hands as if they are spoiled kids that didn't get their way, but I understand I'm sure the Republicans were no better when The Comunity Organizer was spinning his Tails. F Washington and these people notnwilling to work in the people's interest. Seeing Nancy Pelosi gawd is is the MOST disgusting offensive looking person.

Here is something that would make any Male flacid , Nancy Pelosi, Jacky Spear, Elizabeth warden,
Old     (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       03-01-2017, 1:34 PM Reply   
Take about pathetic human libiot waste -> Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid & Maxine Waters.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-01-2017, 1:47 PM Reply   
I was cracking up I saw that Charlie Sheen was in the news because he was being critical of trumps speech last night. "News Flash" Charles you have AIDS. And you got it by banging prostitutes and porn stars. You admit that you like to snort Coke and other drugs. Your Ex wife says she is Bankrupt and needs more $ to raise your Kid, You have way bigger problems bro. Put down the pipe and go back to work. LOL
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-01-2017, 2:17 PM Reply   
That's pretty good Grant. Four ad hominens in one paragraph. Don't see that often.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-01-2017, 4:47 PM Reply   
^ Thats your contribution^ you and Charley Sheen are the same level
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-01-2017, 6:45 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by grant_west View Post
I was cracking up I saw that Charlie Sheen was in the news because he was being critical of trumps speech last night. "News Flash" Charles you have AIDS. And you got it by banging prostitutes and porn stars. You admit that you like to snort Coke and other drugs. Your Ex wife says she is Bankrupt and needs more $ to raise your Kid, You have way bigger problems bro. Put down the pipe and go back to work. LOL
You do realize that, minus the AIDS part, you have given a pretty good snapshot of Donald Trump's life?

-"Banging prostitutes". Check
-"snorting coke". Check
-"Bankrupt" Check
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-01-2017, 8:01 PM Reply   
Do you realize you sound like a but hurt snow flake
-constantly whining, check
-making $hit up to suit your agenda, check
Well do I need to go on?

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Old     (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       03-01-2017, 10:41 PM Reply   
Ha. I have only seen a few of this guys videos and have loved every one so far...

Don Lemon of CNN is F'N joke.

Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-02-2017, 4:05 AM Reply   
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Do you realize you sound like a but hurt snow flake
-constantly whining, check
-making $hit up to suit your agenda, check
Well do I need to go on?
Where exactly did I "make $hit up"? What I posted is the truth.

You sound like the "but (sic) hurt snow flake". Somebody mentions some negative truth about Donald Trump and you get all defensive as if someone insulted your mother.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-02-2017, 10:29 AM Reply   
OMG you are so right I'm personally offended when you insult the TRUMPSTER, LOL that's a good one. Truth is I don't care what you say. Your opinion (as well as my'n is irrelevant) I have been Laughing since Wednesday November the 9th. You can say or make up anything you like, I'm enjoying it all. Don't worry everything will be ok, dispite what you snowflakes say think or destroy
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2017, 11:53 AM Reply   
OK so Sessions lied under oath about talking to the Russians while working on the Trump Campaign.

Can we start the "Lock him up!" chants now, or are all republicans hypocrits.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       03-02-2017, 12:28 PM Reply   
You might if it was true and not more democrat propaganda. He met with the Russian Ambassador before the campaign as a member of the Senate. If it is proven, that isn't the case, then he should resign and face prosecution for lying under oath.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       03-02-2017, 12:36 PM Reply   
Not saying he should resign, but it's clear he should recuse himself and is not the man to head up this investigation, can we agree? Leading republicans (not Ryan though, worth pointing out) do:

Republican Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House of Representatives Oversight Committee, said on Twitter that Sessions "should clarify his testimony and recuse himself."

Republican Senator Rob Portman echoed this, saying, "I think it would be best for him and for the country to recuse himself from the DOJ (Department of Justice) Russia probe."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN16908L
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       03-02-2017, 12:46 PM Reply   
He has already said he would recuse himself, but yes I agree.
Old    deltahoosier            03-02-2017, 12:52 PM Reply   
More propaganda by the democrats. Claire McCaskill and others are playing gotcha politics for the ignorant masses. She sends out a statement saying she has never met with the Russian Ambassador as a member of the Armed Services Committee with Sessions. She even stressed "NEVER" in 10 years. Only she Tweeted about doing it twice and there is even a picture with her and 4 others on one side of a table and the Russian Ambassador and one other person on the other side of the table meeting.

Democrats are turned into a clown show.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       03-02-2017, 12:55 PM Reply   
Paul, not really... What he said (and this was just this morning) is that he would be willing to recuse himself "if appropriate."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...gn-with-russia

Rod, you crack me up with your preschooler logic. I know you are but what am I!
Old    deltahoosier            03-02-2017, 1:00 PM Reply   
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Paul, not really... What he said (and this was just this morning) is that he would be willing to recuse himself "if appropriate."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...gn-with-russia

Rod, you crack me up with your preschooler logic. I know you are but what am I!
Hardly that. Franken asked the question with context to Sessions in regards to Russians and the election. Everyone knows that Senators see Ambassadors all the time in there positions. It is hardly a lie and democrats actually lying to try and pile on is disturbing. It is what it is, it is a kangaroo court of gotcha politics and one the members is out right lying to the public.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       03-02-2017, 1:10 PM Reply   
I was referring to your statement about McCaskill, but whatever floats your boat. Speaking of gotcha politics, I think we can agree. Although I guess it depends on what your definition of *is* is lol. Shall we review your recorded statements about Clinton and the impeachment circus?
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2017, 1:15 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by deltahoosier View Post
Hardly that. Franken asked the question with context to Sessions in regards to Russians and the election. Everyone knows that Senators see Ambassadors all the time in there positions. It is hardly a lie and democrats actually lying to try and pile on is disturbing. It is what it is, it is a kangaroo court of gotcha politics and one the members is out right lying to the public.
Not true, Franken asked what would Sessions do if it came out that anyone affiliated with the trump campaign (which Sessions was) had communicated with the Russian government.
Sessions then replied "I'm not aware of any such activites ... I have not had communications with the Russians"

Listen yourself the video is here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39144015
or is the BBC fake news now?

This was during his confirmation hearings and Sessions was under oath. To quote Republicans "Lock him up, Lock him up, lock him up!"
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       03-02-2017, 1:15 PM Reply   
Right. He hasn't done anything wrong so why would he recuse himself if it was inappropriate? The whole thing is a load of crap. People need to focus on more important issues.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2017, 1:18 PM Reply   
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Right. He hasn't done anything wrong so why would he recuse himself if it was inappropriate? The whole thing is a load of crap. People need to focus on more important issues.
Pretty sure perjury qualifies as "something wrong"
Old    deltahoosier            03-02-2017, 1:30 PM Reply   
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Pretty sure perjury qualifies as "something wrong"
perjury is not simply stating an answer with an implied question to another issue. Matter of fact he was not even asked the question directly. He was asked about someone else and he volunteered the testimony. So was it really perjury if he was not asked the question?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       03-02-2017, 1:37 PM Reply   
perjury = lying under oath

doesn't really matter if you were answering a question that wasn't asked. If that were the yardstick, lying under oath would be remarkably easy.... just answer a question you weren't asked every time.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       03-02-2017, 2:16 PM Reply   
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Pretty sure perjury qualifies as "something wrong"
From my understanding he didn't meet with anyone from Russia while on the campaign. It was before the campaign when he was a senator. He was asked about meetings during the campaign which he denied. SO perjury isn't in question if the timeline is true.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       03-02-2017, 2:18 PM Reply   
Apparently he thought it was appropriate to recuse himself.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       03-02-2017, 3:22 PM Reply   
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From my understanding he didn't meet with anyone from Russia while on the campaign. It was before the campaign when he was a senator. He was asked about meetings during the campaign which he denied. SO perjury isn't in question if the timeline is true.
one of the meetings was at the republican convention.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-02-2017, 4:04 PM Reply   
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Apparently he thought it was appropriate to recuse himself.
No, he said that he would have no problem recusing himself IF appropriate.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       03-02-2017, 4:09 PM Reply   
After more repub congressmen chimed in today he said he will revise himself:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/0...democrats.html
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       03-02-2017, 4:34 PM Reply   
personally I'm not sure it's really perjury from reading the transcript. But it does/could lead one to see the statement as a misrepresentation by omission. If he'd have just added "in my capacity as a campaign surrogate" to the "I have not had communications with the Russians," I think he'd have threaded the needle. In the back and forth of a conversation or Q&A we don't speak in full complete sentences all the time. So I can kinda sorta see how he could argue that that's what he meant. But the transcript doesn't really read well.
Old     (diamonddad)      Join Date: Mar 2010       03-02-2017, 4:57 PM Reply   
The exact transcript is important...

Quote:
SEN.
AL FRANKEN: "If there was any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this (2016) campaign, what would you do?," the Minnesota Democrat asked.
SESSIONS: "I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I did not have communications with the Russians."
He is clearly saying he had no communications with the Russians with regard to being a surrogate to the campaign.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-02-2017, 5:53 PM Reply   
The Pomarainanis are Barking
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 3:54 AM Reply   
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More propaganda by the democrats. Claire McCaskill and others are playing gotcha politics for the ignorant masses. She sends out a statement saying she has never met with the Russian Ambassador as a member of the Armed Services Committee with Sessions. She even stressed "NEVER" in 10 years. Only she Tweeted about doing it twice and there is even a picture with her and 4 others on one side of a table and the Russian Ambassador and one other person on the other side of the table meeting.

Democrats are turned into a clown show.
I never knew that Lindsey Graham and John McCain were Democrats. They have made disparaging comments about Sessions' meetings with Russians.

But hey, Rod, no one on Trump's staff has ever been caught lying, right?
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 3:58 AM Reply   
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The exact transcript is important...



He is clearly saying he had no communications with the Russians with regard to being a surrogate to the campaign.
Really? The non-"Alternative Facts" suggest otherwise.

"Sessions met with Kislyak twice, in July on the sidelines of the Republican convention, and in September in his office when Sessions was a member of the Senate Armed Services committee. Sessions was an early Trump backer and regular surrogate for him as a candidate."

I guess that Sessions was conducting "Senate business" at the RNC.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 4:14 AM Reply   
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Democrats are turned into a clown show.
No, guys like you are the "clown show". You preach to us about conservative morals and how to but your beliefs before politics, but then Trump or someone in his staff lies and you say "no big deal". We heard throughout the campaign about Hillary should be locked up for using a private email account and now the news is out that Pence conducted official IN state business using a private email account. That's okay though, "move on to other issues". One thing I can gather (of course, I already knew it) is that conservatives are the biggest group of hypocrites in this country.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       03-03-2017, 7:07 AM Reply   
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How much longer do we have to wait for this "Economic Nationalism"? Candidate Trump promised to go after China "manipulating their currency" on day one of his presidency. Instead, we get the immigration ban and Trump's lifting Obama's ban on the mentally ill buying guns.
Now here is a perfectly legitimate question that the TrumpTards cannot answer, they can only throw insults back at you. Trump has said the value added tax is too complicated, so he did not like it. The republicans are backing the value added tax, which basically says that anything made in U.S. does not get taxed and all imports would get taxed. I believe most countries work this way, but one thing is for sure in that it would reduce our trade deficit! I have No problem putting America first, but we have Not made the right decisions in the last 40 years!
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       03-03-2017, 7:16 AM Reply   
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Not made the right decisions in the last 40 years!
A rare fan of the Carter administration spotted in the wild!
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-03-2017, 8:09 AM Reply   
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I have No problem putting America first, but we have Not made the right decisions in the last 40 years!
It's unfortunate that instead of comparative analysis of things like how imports are taxed in China vs the US or economic burdens of domestic vs foreign manufacturers the American public is more interested in playing politics. I guess debating whether Hollywood stars should have political opinions or not is more crucial to the survival of our nation than actually knowing what is going on.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 8:43 AM Reply   
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It's unfortunate that instead of comparative analysis of things like how imports are taxed in China vs the US or economic burdens of domestic vs foreign manufacturers the American public is more interested in playing politics. I guess debating whether Hollywood stars should have political opinions or not is more crucial to the survival of our nation than actually knowing what is going on.
It makes walking around with your head stuffed up your ass a lot easier if you only pay attention to petty things.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 10:25 AM Reply   
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I never knew that Lindsey Graham and John McCain were Democrats. They have made disparaging comments about Sessions' meetings with Russians.

But hey, Rod, no one on Trump's staff has ever been caught lying, right?
Don't care if they do. Democrats are not in charge. Seeing the way you all act in the first month, I don't care what he does at this point.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 10:32 AM Reply   
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No, guys like you are the "clown show". You preach to us about conservative morals and how to but your beliefs before politics, but then Trump or someone in his staff lies and you say "no big deal". We heard throughout the campaign about Hillary should be locked up for using a private email account and now the news is out that Pence conducted official IN state business using a private email account. That's okay though, "move on to other issues". One thing I can gather (of course, I already knew it) is that conservatives are the biggest group of hypocrites in this country.
You are a first class liar or willfully ignorant. Listen closely. People say that Hillary should be locked up for having classified information on the private server. She should be locked up for lying about the server. Not only did she routinely have classified information on the server, she lied that she did not know what the classified markings were when she actually taught the class. That is why people wanted her locked up.

Can you point to the Federal law that was broken with Pence in Indiana? Can you contrast that to the laws that Hillary broke on her federal position? Is there a Federal law requiring state officials can not use private servers? Did Pence have classified information on that server? Oh that's right, he does not have a security clearance for that as a Governor.

Can you guys possibly be spoon fed any more fake new?
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 10:39 AM Reply   
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It's unfortunate that instead of comparative analysis of things like how imports are taxed in China vs the US or economic burdens of domestic vs foreign manufacturers the American public is more interested in playing politics. I guess debating whether Hollywood stars should have political opinions or not is more crucial to the survival of our nation than actually knowing what is going on.
No. the media is more interested in spoon feeding the narrative to the useful idiots. AKA.... Every freaking Trump administration article in the first month. It is pretty clear what democrats are trying to do.

Few questions. Why is Obama still in Washington. Why is Valerie Jarret living in his old home and why did she have access to Obama's private residence in the White House? Why is an ex president setting up a resistance movement? Why did the Obama administration set up a non profit slush fund by using corporate fine money funneled to these "non profit" groups instead back to the treasury? Ever wonder why these groups seem to have big budgets paying for protestors and able to fly all around the country for different protests?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-03-2017, 10:49 AM Reply   
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No. the media is more interested in spoon feeding the narrative to the useful idiots. AKA.... Every freaking Trump administration article in the first month. It is pretty clear what democrats are trying to do.
The media is a business. And businesses strive to give their customers what they want. It's my observation that the public wants to hear all this BS. Your love of tin hat conspiracy crap is just one aspect of the garbage the public loves to consume.

Everyone seems to think that the solution to problems is to blame somebody vs. actually paying attention to the specifics of the issue at hand. For example all of your rants seem to center on left politicians creating policy and spewing rhetoric to enslave the poor. As if somehow the nation got $20T in debt from encouraging poor people to commit crimes due to the lavishes of wealth they get by collecting welfare.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       03-03-2017, 10:53 AM Reply   
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It's unfortunate that instead of comparative analysis of things like how imports are taxed in China vs the US or economic burdens of domestic vs foreign manufacturers the American public is more interested in playing politics. I guess debating whether Hollywood stars should have political opinions or not is more crucial to the survival of our nation than actually knowing what is going on.
I did not mean a value added tax(can't believe I wrote that), what I was talking(and thinking) about was the Border adjustment tax, that's the one Trump said was too complicated, but the republicans will probably persuade him to do it, but it would decrease our trade deficit, so that would be positive don't you think?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-03-2017, 11:02 AM Reply   
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I did not mean a value added tax(can't believe I wrote that), what I was talking(and thinking) about was the Border adjustment tax, that's the one Trump said was too complicated, but the republicans will probably persuade him to do it, but it would decrease our trade deficit, so that would be positive don't you think?
It might decrease the trade deficit, it might not. In the short term the consumer will pay more for everything imported so say hello to more expensive electronic toys. Also as retaliation other countries you currently export to will raise a border tax making American goods less competitive so there will be a decrease in export earnings.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 11:18 AM Reply   
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You are a first class liar or willfully ignorant. Listen closely. People say that Hillary should be locked up for having classified information on the private server. She should be locked up for lying about the server. Not only did she routinely have classified information on the server, she lied that she did not know what the classified markings were when she actually taught the class. That is why people wanted her locked up.

Can you point to the Federal law that was broken with Pence in Indiana? Can you contrast that to the laws that Hillary broke on her federal position? Is there a Federal law requiring state officials can not use private servers? Did Pence have classified information on that server? Oh that's right, he does not have a security clearance for that as a Governor.

Can you guys possibly be spoon fed any more fake new?
So wait, Pence really did use a private email server for state business. How exactly is that "fake news"? Is your definition of "fake" anything that goes against your political leanings?
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 11:18 AM Reply   
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The media is a business. And businesses strive to give their customers what they want. It's my observation that the public wants to hear all this BS. Your love of tin hat conspiracy crap is just one aspect of the garbage the public loves to consume.

Everyone seems to think that the solution to problems is to blame somebody vs. actually paying attention to the specifics of the issue at hand. For example all of your rants seem to center on left politicians creating policy and spewing rhetoric to enslave the poor. As if somehow the nation got $20T in debt from encouraging poor people to commit crimes due to the lavishes of wealth they get by collecting welfare.
Economic condition and crime are two different issues. I grew up poor and I was not out robbing and steeling. It is a cultural condition. The country gets 20 Trillion in debt by a government trying to share America's wealth to the world through taxation and regulation. With that in place, we can not attract income so the fed prints money as we have been doing for the last 8 years at a alarming pace to keep the lights on. Yes, my "rants" do look at leftist politicians. If you look at all the despot places in the world including the UN, they are all ran by leftist politicians.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 11:20 AM Reply   
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So wait, Pence really did use a private email server for state business. How exactly is that "fake news"? Is your definition of "fake" anything that goes against your political leanings?
It is fake news because water is freaking wet. No freaking kidding. It is fake because it is click bait for a group of people who simply want to throw barrels in front of another group of people. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 11:22 AM Reply   
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No. the media is more interested in spoon feeding the narrative to the useful idiots. AKA.... Every freaking Trump administration article in the first month. It is pretty clear what democrats are trying to do.

Few questions. Why is Obama still in Washington. Why is Valerie Jarret living in his old home and why did she have access to Obama's private residence in the White House? Why is an ex president setting up a resistance movement? Why did the Obama administration set up a non profit slush fund by using corporate fine money funneled to these "non profit" groups instead back to the treasury? Ever wonder why these groups seem to have big budgets paying for protestors and able to fly all around the country for different protests?
How is that any different then when GOP leaders had a private meeting to make Obama "a one-term president" days after he was inaugurated? You act as though media outlets haven't criticized presidents in the past. What the hell was all over Fox News from 2009-2016? What were republicans "trying to do" back then?
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 11:24 AM Reply   
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It is fake news because water is freaking wet. No freaking kidding. It is fake because it is click bait for a group of people who simply want to through barrels in front of another group of people. Nothing more, nothing less.
So it is standard practice to use private email for official government business?
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 11:31 AM Reply   
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So it is standard practice to use private email for official government business?
At the state level, yes. I seem to remember this being talked about when McCain was running for President and Palin was governor.

Can you point me to the state law that says Pence could not do such a thing and if so, what material is excluded or included? Why does it matter to you what the then Governor of Indiana has to do with operations at the VP of the United States?

Can you tell me why a US Sailor is in prison for a picture on a sub or why Wen Ho Lee was put in prison for losing a classified hard drive and the Univerisity of California being striped of it's governance of two national laboratories over the event during the Clinton adminstration? Yet, Hillary routinely had classified material in a unsecure server and lied about it and she is fine to do so?

Makes me wonder if you care about any of this only because Pence's political affiliation but you would never do that now would you?
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 11:33 AM Reply   
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How is that any different then when GOP leaders had a private meeting to make Obama "a one-term president" days after he was inaugurated? You act as though media outlets haven't criticized presidents in the past. What the hell was all over Fox News from 2009-2016? What were republicans "trying to do" back then?
And what was your feelings about that? Did people bring the BS to this board day in and day out like you guys have?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-03-2017, 11:45 AM Reply   
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Economic condition and crime are two different issues. I grew up poor and I was not out robbing and steeling. It is a cultural condition.
If you think that economic conditions and crime have no relationship with one another because you grew up poor and didn't become a criminal, I'm not surprised that your narrative looks the way it does.

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The country gets 20 Trillion in debt by a government trying to share America's wealth to the world through taxation and regulation. With that in place, we can not attract income so the fed prints money as we have been doing for the last 8 years at a alarming pace to keep the lights on.
Really? I thought it was the American consumer that wants to share the nation's wealth with the rest of the world. To the tune of over 1/2 Trillion per year. But I guess big numbers like that just look like a blur to you.

Considering all the grandstanding and implementing new policy without regards to the consequences that Trump enjoys I'm surprised we don't already have 45% tariffs on Chinese imports. Any guesses as to why the GOP majority with Trump as a leader hasn't jumped on one of his biggest promises yet? The only one that protects American workers without destroying the environment. Also how many times did the GOP vote to repeal the ACA outright when Obama was President. Now they refuse to vote on it. Why aren't you guys holding these phonies to the fire seeing as how it was numero uno on your complaint list about Obama?
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-03-2017, 11:50 AM Reply   
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And what was your feelings about that? Did people bring the BS to this board day in and day out like you guys have?
Short answer: Yes, specifically you did.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 12:04 PM Reply   
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If you think that economic conditions and crime have no relationship with one another because you grew up poor and didn't become a criminal, I'm not surprised that your narrative looks the way it does.

Really? I thought it was the American consumer that wants to share the nation's wealth with the rest of the world. To the tune of over 1/2 Trillion per year. But I guess big numbers like that just look like a blur to you.

Considering all the grandstanding and implementing new policy without regards to the consequences that Trump enjoys I'm surprised we don't already have 45% tariffs on Chinese imports. Any guesses as to why the GOP majority with Trump as a leader hasn't jumped on one of his biggest promises yet? The only one that protects American workers without destroying the environment. Also how many times did the GOP vote to repeal the ACA outright when Obama was President. Now they refuse to vote on it. Why aren't you guys holding these phonies to the fire seeing as how it was numero uno on your complaint list about Obama?
You suggesting that being poor should make you a criminal? Is that the way things are? If you don't have money, you can not control yourself in society? If that is the case, we should simply lock people up if they don't make $30k a year because they will rob you anyway? No wonder your view of the world is the way it is.

Funny you are preaching to me about the trade deficit as I was the one arguing with you trying to convince you of that issue years ago. lol.

It takes more than a month to get rid of 8 years of destruction. Trump has already rolled back many of Obama's declarations. Report was on the radio that request for orders are already up this year on a national level and one of those sectors is mining.

Love how if Trump changes something it is going to destroy the environment. Fear and loathing leads to the dark side.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 12:05 PM Reply   
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Short answer: Yes, specifically you did.
Interesting memory you have. I had not even posted on this board for almost the whole Obama presidency (even though I read everyday). Try again.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-03-2017, 12:12 PM Reply   
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Interesting memory you have. I had not even posted on this board for almost the whole Obama presidency (even though I read everyday). Try again.
Wow , you republican really believe that if you say something that is demonstrably false enough people will believe it.

Do you realize that this forum has a search feature where you can say show me everything posted in non-wakeboarding by a specific user that is more than 1 year old.

It turns out that when you say "I had not even posted on this board for almost the whole Obama presidency" you are lying. Their are pages and pages of search results on Obama threads where you posted, or did you get hacked?

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Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-03-2017, 12:19 PM Reply   
The more worrying thing about Pense using his personal email is that it was an AOL account.

Proving that the man has no sense of right and wrong or even a basic sense of decency.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 12:19 PM Reply   
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Wow , you republican really believe that if you say something that is demonstrably false enough people will believe it.

Do you realize that this forum has a search feature where you can say show me everything posted in non-wakeboarding by a specific user that is more than 1 year old.

It turns out that when you say "I had not even posted on this board for almost the whole Obama presidency" you are lying. Their are pages and pages of search results on Obama threads.
I am sure I commented on Obama threads at the end. Did I post new stories or comment on thread? How long between? Why did I get a "welcome back" from Wes the first time I posted?

You keep going with your little self.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-03-2017, 12:27 PM Reply   
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Funny you are preaching to me about the trade deficit as I was the one arguing with you trying to convince you of that issue years ago. lol.
That is total bulls**t. At no point in time have I argued that the trade deficit was indicative of anything other than exporting our economy, hurting American worker employment, and forcing the govt to borrow and spend to replenish.

As far as the difference on our views of the correlation between poverty and crime, I'll let our claims stand as is.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-03-2017, 12:29 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by deltahoosier View Post
Interesting memory you have.
Yes it is.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-03-2017, 1:30 PM Reply   
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I had not even posted on this board for almost the whole Obama presidency (even though I read everyday). Try again.
Me: yes you did, lots, here's proof.

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I am sure I commented on Obama threads at the end.
Classic republican, "I'm sure I NEVER did _________, OK maybe I did but it doesn't count because ________"

Bunch of lying hypocrites. "Lock up Hillary because of perjury and private emails server." "Sessions perjury doesn't count because he didn't mean it, Pense, private email server was an AOL account so it doesn't count."
Do you even realize how you sound?
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 2:54 PM Reply   
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That is total bulls**t. At no point in time have I argued that the trade deficit was indicative of anything other than exporting our economy, hurting American worker employment, and forcing the govt to borrow and spend to replenish.

As far as the difference on our views of the correlation between poverty and crime, I'll let our claims stand as is.
Well, we have been in agreement then the whole time. Trade deficit kills America. Maybe it was early on with Medical? I could be mis remembering on that.
Old    deltahoosier            03-03-2017, 2:56 PM Reply   
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Me: yes you did, lots, here's proof.



Classic republican, "I'm sure I NEVER did _________, OK maybe I did but it doesn't count because ________"

Bunch of lying hypocrites. "Lock up Hillary because of perjury and private emails server." "Sessions perjury doesn't count because he didn't mean it, Pense, private email server was an AOL account so it doesn't count."
Do you even realize how you sound?
Are you high? I went back and looked and I found may be 3 posts from 2010 to 2016 and those were not even about the president. You need to pass what you been smoking because the data is not on your side.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 6:40 PM Reply   
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At the state level, yes. I seem to remember this being talked about when McCain was running for President and Palin was governor.

Can you point me to the state law that says Pence could not do such a thing and if so, what material is excluded or included? Why does it matter to you what the then Governor of Indiana has to do with operations at the VP of the United States?

Can you tell me why a US Sailor is in prison for a picture on a sub or why Wen Ho Lee was put in prison for losing a classified hard drive and the Univerisity of California being striped of it's governance of two national laboratories over the event during the Clinton adminstration? Yet, Hillary routinely had classified material in a unsecure server and lied about it and she is fine to do so?

Makes me wonder if you care about any of this only because Pence's political affiliation but you would never do that now would you?
You do realize that most state (including IN) and local governments have some sort of Sunshine Law in effect, correct?

Personally, I don't give a crap what Pence did with his email. But your and the GOP's hypocrisy is nauseating.

P.S. Lee did a little bit more than simply "losing a classified hard drive".
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-03-2017, 6:44 PM Reply   
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You suggesting that being poor should make you a criminal? Is that the way things are? If you don't have money, you can not control yourself in society? If that is the case, we should simply lock people up if they don't make $30k a year because they will rob you anyway? No wonder your view of the world is the way it is.

Funny you are preaching to me about the trade deficit as I was the one arguing with you trying to convince you of that issue years ago. lol.

It takes more than a month to get rid of 8 years of destruction. Trump has already rolled back many of Obama's declarations. Report was on the radio that request for orders are already up this year on a national level and one of those sectors is mining.

Love how if Trump changes something it is going to destroy the environment. Fear and loathing leads to the dark side.
Yeah, I saw that. I guess the mentally ill being able to purchase firearms again was such a pressing matter, that it had to be addressed in the first month. Bravo Trump.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       03-03-2017, 8:50 PM Reply   
Ahhhhh Pelosi is gonna be next on the Trump chopping block. I'm gonna like watching this old bird go down in flames
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       03-04-2017, 6:00 AM Reply   
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The exact transcript is important...



He is clearly saying he had no communications with the Russians with regard to being a surrogate to the campaign.
Man if you listen to what he actually said (in his voice coming out of his mouth) it's very hard to hear it that way. I've read the transcript and I agree that there's some wiggle room (very little, but some) when looking at the printed word, but I finally listened to the question and answer as spoke, and when you hear it from his mouth it seems pretty emphatic that he had not met with Russians at all ever.

The fact that he's going to correct his testimony in writing suggests he feels the same way (that even in the best light the testimony could be seen as misleading).

Honestly my guess is that nothing nefarious happened, that this is all smoke and no fire, and that this isn't some sort of international remote control of American government. But then I also believed that the Benghazi witch hunt was a waste of time, so what do I know.
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-04-2017, 9:48 AM Reply   
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Ahhhhh Pelosi is gonna be next on the Trump chopping block. I'm gonna like watching this old bird go down in flames
You do understand that the president does not have the power to fire congressmen?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       03-04-2017, 10:19 AM Reply   
Trump cannot run for president in 2020!
There might be legislation going through that will require candidates running for the 2020 presidential election campaign to release their tax forms! And we all know Trump will Not release his tax returns!
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-04-2017, 11:11 AM Reply   
Trump not releasing his tax returns is like telling the cops you can search the house but not the basement.

There is definately something in the basement.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001       03-04-2017, 8:29 PM Reply   
Trump's down in Florida again. Now on track to spend more in a single year than Obama AND Biden did on security in 8 years - nearly $100 million. In ONE YEAR.

Not to mention every time he goes down there he is killing the small businesses that all have to shut down due to security.

Just a fraction of the small businesses and gov't budgets he's affecting:
$60,000/day in overtime for sheriff deputies to close and patrol roads.
The local airport loses hundreds of thousands in fuel sales each of his trips.
Stellar Aviation group is losing $30,000/day every time he's there.
250 private flights have to be grounded every day he's there.
The local skywriter can't take off so he's lost $42,000 already during Trump's visits.

"We are hoping he slows his visits to once a month"

Again, obviously the President has to be protected, and deserves a vacation once in a while. But every weekend - this is ridiculous.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       03-04-2017, 11:59 PM Reply   
So i see crybaby trump crying a river about the dems showing down his cabinet picks, doesn't the republicans control the Senate, how does that work?

Also more tears that Obama was tapping his phones, does the president have the power to order phone taps? What is it over there the United states of North Korea?
Old     (wake77)      Join Date: Jan 2009       03-05-2017, 5:41 AM Reply   
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So i see crybaby trump crying a river about the dems showing down his cabinet picks, doesn't the republicans control the Senate, how does that work?

Also more tears that Obama was tapping his phones, does the president have the power to order phone taps? What is it over there the United states of North Korea?
Trump just throws anything out there. Of course, his supporters are so gullible they'll believe anything he says or Tweets and these supporters don't hold his feet to the flame when he makes some outrageous claim (i.e. Obama tapping his phones) without offering even an ounce of proof. Trump has been doing this since he decided a few years ago to pretend to be a conservative. He proclaimed that he had evidence that Obama's birth certificate was a phony and then...NOTHING. It's amazing that he still believes that people are not going to fact-check him and that he gets upset when people don't simply take his word for things.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       03-05-2017, 9:10 AM Reply   
How can anyone believe that this guy isn't crazy? It is just mind boggling.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-06-2017, 8:11 AM Reply   
Look! A squirrel
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       03-06-2017, 9:26 AM Reply   
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Look! A squirrel
Yes, we see it Mr President. Maybe you'd like to take it off your head now.
Old     (plhorn)      Join Date: Dec 2005       03-06-2017, 8:04 PM Reply   
31% of the Trump presidency has been spent at Mar-a-lago.

You Republicans that complained about obama playing golf have anything to say. Bunch of hypocrites.
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