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Old    kanaka            06-02-2006, 7:56 AM Reply   
saw this going down the road yesterday in modesto
they had the name of the boat covered with tape anybody seen anythinig like this?Upload
Old     (foxrepdc)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-02-2006, 8:04 AM Reply   
Tower integrated into the windshield!!! Nice. What is it?
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-02-2006, 8:09 AM Reply   
I know, but I'm not telling, LOL.... It'll be out next year if I'm correct.
Old     (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-02-2006, 8:20 AM Reply   
It's Malibu's new 278... It's supposed to be the next big thing since the 247.


I don't know if the steering wheel, gelcoat pattern, and tower are indicative, but we'll see in a few months what this beast is I'm sure!
Old     (mjmurphy53711)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-02-2006, 8:23 AM Reply   
Isnt mastercraft all over the integrated tower/windsheild thing?

That things screams mastercraft to me.
Old     (jon4pres)      Join Date: May 2004       06-02-2006, 8:29 AM Reply   
The dash looks very Malibu to me. Mastercraft kinda has that pod thing going.
I read somewhere that they are making a VTX that is close to the size of a vlx. I don't really know any deteails or it what I heard is reliable but it could be that boat.

From seeing it you should be able to tell if it was in 21 ft range or 27 (I am guessing off of the 278 model number) ft. range.

The tower windshield thing is pretty cool though. I think it makes things alot cleaner looking.
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       06-02-2006, 8:35 AM Reply   
None of the above guys... Keep guessing though. A quick indicator that it isn't Malibu or Master Craft is the fact that the tower is a Pro Flight.
Old     (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       06-02-2006, 8:41 AM Reply   
I know.. I Know...
Old     (jeff359)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-02-2006, 8:41 AM Reply   
Supreme?
Old     (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-02-2006, 8:42 AM Reply   
If it was mastercraft there would be at least 15 custom billet pieces visible (justifying the high pricepoint)... That boat looks SUPREMEly awesome!
Old     (jon4pres)      Join Date: May 2004       06-02-2006, 8:43 AM Reply   
Epic was working on a 21 footer.
MB is making the f23 tomcatt but it has a picklefork design. So I dont think that is what it is.
The gelcoat looks similar to a Ski Supreme but I know nothing about that company.

I think Sanger uses proflight towers so I am guessing a sanger.
Old     (rubin)      Join Date: May 2006       06-02-2006, 8:52 AM Reply   
Aren't Centurion and Supreme made fairly close to Modesto? And Don't they use Pro Flight Towers?
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       06-02-2006, 9:12 AM Reply   
Chopper??? :-)
Old     (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2006, 9:20 AM Reply   
One item that is unique to most boat companies is their pylon shape. By the looks of that pylon it is a Supreme.

These pictures are off the Supreme website. The dash is dead on and this is the best picture of the pylon i could find.
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Old     (thane_dogg)      Join Date: Jun 2002       06-02-2006, 9:21 AM Reply   
Calabria?
Old     (erik_c)      Join Date: Jan 2005       06-02-2006, 9:21 AM Reply   
Its the Dirka Dirka from DirkaDirkastan.
Old     (forwaken)      Join Date: Jan 2003       06-02-2006, 9:26 AM Reply   
OOOOOOhh, I know, I know, but I am not telling either. All of you guys are wrong though. I'll give you a hint though it has nothing to do with a new boat at all...... You might see Mr. Buffalow out on the delta with this new set up though......
Old     (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2006, 9:31 AM Reply   
OK if it doesn't have anything to do with the boat, then it's a new Tower by Proflight? Is there something else in the picture that i'm missing? I assume your saying that Buff will have this new tower on his boat soon.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2006, 10:45 AM Reply   
Well currently Pro Flight is the factory tower for Sanger, Ski Centurion, Supreme & Reinell. I'd definately agree that it looks like a Supreme but who knows, maybe Reinell is stepping to the plate, whoopty doo..
Old     (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-02-2006, 10:49 AM Reply   
Actually that is a new boat and new tower. We were on it yesterday. It is all some fresh stuff for next year, but too early to release any info on it yet. We have more testing today on it.
Old     (midwesty)      Join Date: Aug 2003       06-02-2006, 11:14 AM Reply   
supreme is my final answer
Old     (tomcalabria)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-02-2006, 11:53 AM Reply   
The DA Vinci code of wakeboarding here we go!

Won't be a sanger imo. They are not into doing anything new or making changes.
Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       06-02-2006, 12:22 PM Reply   
Come on Jack one picture. I would have pulled the tape back to see what it said.
I would guess Supreme as well but maybe a Sessions but they are out of Florida so maybee not.
Old     (audiopro74)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-02-2006, 2:19 PM Reply   
My little birdie told me it is a...............
I'm not allowed to tell
Old     (criswb)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-02-2006, 2:25 PM Reply   
I would have taken out the tape to see what it was too... Im just too curious!
Old     (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       06-02-2006, 2:47 PM Reply   
It's a supreme of course.
Old     (easyrider)      Join Date: Oct 2003       06-02-2006, 2:48 PM Reply   
From the looks of the boat.... Who cares!
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       06-02-2006, 2:55 PM Reply   
i wanna say MB?
Old     (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-02-2006, 3:08 PM Reply   
I can't believe people are still guessing.
It's a Supreme. And the Tower is Proflight, which is probably why it was in Modesto.
Old     (wakeme884)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-02-2006, 5:12 PM Reply   
Is it going to be previewed at the boat show this month in Pomona?
Old     (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-02-2006, 5:33 PM Reply   
I dig the tower integrated into the wind-shield.
Old     (attila916)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-02-2006, 5:40 PM Reply   
Clean lines... maybe a little too clean. It kind of resembles in I/O IMO.
Old     (hudd007)      Join Date: May 2006       06-03-2006, 12:09 AM Reply   
I'm with Matthew. Proof is in the pudding...A picture is worth a thousand words.....and all those other cliches.

That dash is dead on. So is the steering wheel for that matter.
Old     (poser007)      Join Date: Nov 2004       06-03-2006, 12:57 AM Reply   
Its a supreme final answer
Old     (fyrdawg29)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-03-2006, 5:31 PM Reply   
Who cares the tower has no appeal to me. All it means to have an integrated tower is now you have to replace the windshield if you have tower issues... Thanks but i'll pass...
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       06-03-2006, 5:53 PM Reply   
Honestly, the integrated tower doesnt look appealing. I like the bulky look of the tower and how it sticks out of the hull, adds more effect. As far as function, I dont think that adds any performance to the boat. Now people can brag "my boat has a tower that is also a windshield, now I get 2ft more air on every tindy grab I do".
Old     (prestone)      Join Date: Aug 2004       06-04-2006, 7:49 PM Reply   
dont most of your guys towers shake while driving over bumps and d-ups. ours does at least and if our tower was attached to our windshield like that it would be shattered.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       06-04-2006, 10:03 PM Reply   
its ugly
Old     (aden_g)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-04-2006, 10:13 PM Reply   
Finally someone says it.


I agree, Andy.
Old     (fullspeed)      Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Santa Cruz County CA       06-04-2006, 11:30 PM Reply   
It's LEO's new boat. It's will soon be called Malipoop in the engine.

I HATE MY MALIPOOP will soon be a discussion hot topic on wakewold.

Supreme to me as well. Not really feeling it.
Old     (mike_schwenne)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-05-2006, 12:23 AM Reply   
strongest tower out yet....Looks clean to me...but i'm sure they'll have multiple designes after the successful R&D last weekend.
Rod
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schwenne
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Old     (wakehype)      Join Date: Dec 2002       06-05-2006, 1:57 AM Reply   
I know I know... But I can't tell :-)
Old     (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-07-2006, 8:35 AM Reply   
We put it through some more tests yesterday out on our beloved Delta. The tower is crazy stong. No noises and No flex. Our elbows were sore after a short set because there is no give in this tower. Combine Non stretch rope + non stretch tower=sore elbow, but tons of line tension. I cranked it side to side and way out to the side of the boat, and nothing! Pretty impressive for a first version.
Old    choro44            06-07-2006, 2:55 PM Reply   
Looks like a similar idea to what Dave Triano(Toyota Epic Designer) had. I believe his design had more cross bracing across the front of the tower though.
Old     (oldcentury76)      Join Date: Dec 2004       06-07-2006, 3:01 PM Reply   
It's a BU. Buffalow and wakehype are Bu lovers.
Old     (oldcentury76)      Join Date: Dec 2004       06-07-2006, 3:03 PM Reply   
http://www.marinenewswire.com/pressrel/12Dec04/tms120904.htm It might be made by taylormade.
Old     (oldcentury76)      Join Date: Dec 2004       06-07-2006, 3:04 PM Reply   
or

http://www.taylormarine.com/press_releases/pressarchived1.php?RECORD_KEY(LastYear_Releases)=ID&ID(LastYear_Releases)=29
Old     (airrantz)      Join Date: Jun 2004       06-07-2006, 3:18 PM Reply   
Except it says Pro Flight right on the tower.
Old     (oldcentury76)      Join Date: Dec 2004       06-07-2006, 3:20 PM Reply   
my bad.
Old     (jhilltn)      Join Date: Jul 2004       06-11-2006, 8:46 PM Reply   
i tested a tower like that a while back but it was made by extreme towers and taylor made. so who came up with it first?
Old     (wakeforce139)      Join Date: Jan 2004       06-11-2006, 10:44 PM Reply   
I must say, whoever said it has the look of an I/O, I agree. And since it's coming from Modesto, I would not be all that surprised to see if it was in fact a Reinell. Then again, I'm probably way off.
Old     (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       06-12-2006, 12:31 AM Reply   
It has the same gelcoat art style, same steering wheel, same dash, same OEM tower mfg (proflight), same v-drive tow-pylon, and same gas-fill location as a Supreme. It's a Supreme. end of story.

And I must say, I think I could shatter that window too!! I'm sure the R&D on that thing is amazing, but still... anything involving a pane of glass and a structure that is supposed to have a certain amount of flex worries me. One downside: you can never switch towers...
Old     (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-12-2006, 8:01 AM Reply   
The glass floats in the frame of the tower. I think if it were going to break or crack it would have done it during the triple ups we were cranking for a day or having me pull it from side to side. Not saying it is impossible to crack, but not likely. The guys at Taylor have spent a ton of time and money working on this and testing the crap out of it. This is still first design stage, so I am sure there will be many more changes when it is all said and done.
Old     (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-12-2006, 9:04 AM Reply   
JB

I have to ask WHY are they attempting to make towers/windshields integrated??

only thing i can think of is to eliminate gel coat stress and maybe to get around tower patents W/O making towers like the illusion??

Old     (buffalow)      Join Date: Apr 2002       06-12-2006, 2:09 PM Reply   
How 'bout just cause it's potentially a new fresh idea with cleaner lines? Not sure, but progression has to start somewhere and ithink they are trying to figure it out. Give them props for spending time and money trying to do something different.
Old     (liquidmx)      Join Date: Jun 2005       06-12-2006, 2:20 PM Reply   
I am thinking that a tower integrated into the windshield would be crazy stiff. Think about all the attachment points that thing has to the hull. Rather than the typical "four points" it has almost an entire halo effect. The only thing I see being a possible problem is the idea that there may need to be some flex, for both the rider and the boat.
I am imagining coming down from a trick with some slack and getting the familiar handle pop, only waaay harder.

When I was into street racing the name of the game was transferring all the energy to the tires, thus a super stiff chassis. The result was a ton of rattles and super rough ride.

I am definitely curious to see how this works out and what the effects are. I have a ton of respect for anyone with a new and different idea.
Old     (regalado1)      Join Date: Dec 2005       06-12-2006, 2:34 PM Reply   
It's not even real. Ever hear of M.C. Esher. It's all an optical illusion.

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