THIS THREAD IS FOR WAKE-SNOBS only!!

WHO RUNS THE MOST WEIGHT?!?! HOLLA!!! \clipart{rofl}

Everyone is always talking about how to weight, configs of weight, types of weight. I'm sure the Pros are all running 4 and 5k, but how bout' us Ams, mid-ams, aspiring young rippers?

Anything under 2k need not post. lol. Bodies, gear, and batteries dont count. Just list your boat, and weight.

I'll start. 2850 last week. And we didnt like it because the week before we had 2850 plus 5 adults, not 3.

BOAT: 03' X-2
WEIGHT: 2850

I'll play.

BOAT: 00' XStar
WEIGHT: 4150-4600 lbs of ballast

(Message edited by ironj32 on July 22, 2009)

You know My Set up!

1,100 LBS (triangle bow sac as full as possible)
750lbs Lengthwise in the Middle
750lbs Internal in the floor
650lbs on the Back seat
2 x 85lb Small square sacs to balance the boat on the seats or floor
2 x 750lbs in the Trunk on either side of the engine.
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4920lbs Grand total, not include people and Gear.

Why would you possibly need more than stock ballast?

"Why would you possibly need more than stock ballast?"


Get a 210 and you don't.
Look, they all have one thing in common!

We don't.

4000 lbs EPIC Everyday

07 Moomba LSV

1100 lb triangle sac in bow
400 bag in floor(actually only fills to about 300)
750's in rear lockers
400 in pop bags

realistically about 3k maybe a little more

O7 MASTERCRAFT X2
TWIN 750S REAR LOCKER
750 ACROSS THE BACK
750 IN THE FRONT
350 ACROSS THE FRONT SEAT
= 3250

1996 Nautique Super Sport

4,000lbs

850 nose
800 belly
750 belly/back
1600 back

I think I need a little more weight in the front.

07 X-15

700 in each locker
350 across the rear seat
1000 in the walk-thru
550 in lead under seats
1050 in bow
=3650

more to come once boat gets propped and trim tab added

08 vlx
900 in bow
500 mid
400 lead in cabin area
300x2 in lead under each seat in the back
350 fatsack up against back seat
600 in stock tank tank and lead on sides of motor box stock tanks

3350 plus wedge all the way down.

meaty and huge lip

94 MC PS 205
350 Tube sack in ski locker
1000 2 500lb sacks in open bow/on seat
1500 fat seat
350 Tube sack wherever we need it depending on people/gear

=3200 total in an old ski boat...

That's a lot of weight for a 205...

Does running a lot of weight equal having a big trick bag? Just curious how many different invert variations and spins variations 360 or more you guys have total? I know some of you have lots of tricks, but I'm curious what the most people have that are running that much weight.

03 X-2
500 pounds of lead in front, sack on top of that.
Stock ballest in ski locker
200 pounds of lead on each side in the back. And fat sacks on top of that. Ripped out stock ballest in back.

I would guess around 2700 to 3000 pounds

"That's a lot of weight for a 205..."

Yes, yes it is

2004 Super Air

850 stock
200 lead in nose
100 lb bag in nose
250 lb bag in bow
600 lb on the floor
300 x2 in lockers = 2600 lbs

I will ride with any of you guys, anytime.

After a second look at this thread I caught Jeremy's comment about 6 posts down... come on dude! We have a 2008 and 2009 210 in our stable and both have at least 3,200. That boat needs weight just like every other boat. Infact, I don't see how you could shred the new boat on factory ballast alone, its super lame.

2008 Moomba XLV G.G.
1100lb sac in nose
500lb lead in nose
750lb sac in rear lockers
400lbs lead in seatin area
4 body's

"Get a 210 and you don't."


Seriously? I've ridden a 210 with stock ballast only and I can honestly say that I was not too impressed...you definitely need more!

Summer boat = 95 Supersport

900lbs rear
600lbs ski locker
600lbs bow

~2100 + people... but honestly all you really need in an old SAN is like 1500lbs... anything else is just icing on the cake



Winter Boat = 09 X-star

Stock - 1000lbs
Pro-Tour - 2500lbs
2 bag in bow - 700lbs
bag in middle - 700 lbs
TOTAL - 4900 lbs

01 prostar 209 direct drive
(back seat left at home)
1400(fat seat)
600 on top of seat
600 in back compartment(not full)
500 locker sac
600 bow

Nick I am calling Scarecrow or Crowmobe on that shot above of you cutting Toeside!! Am I close???? Totally Looks like a TS Trip Edge Cut.


And Yeah The comment on the 210 with the stock ballast. If that was the set up I was going to ride for the day I would Show up with only my Wakeskate.

I'm 99% sure its a crowmobe.... there is a slight slight chance its a tootsie, but I'll give you the point

(Message edited by sidekicknicholas on July 22, 2009)

06 VLX

Stock: 1250
Front lead: 150
Passanger compartment, lead: 80
Drivers compartment, lead: 80
Back compartments under seat, lead: 80 each side
Cooler area behind driver, lead: 90 (offsets weight for people, passanger storage area, amps, etc)
Wedge Down

Total: around 2,000 not including people.

Nothing outrageous but it puts out a nice wake for my riding, really nice when you have about 9-10 people on the boat.

Sorry to get y'alls panties ruffled, 04 210 T.E. w/ belly and both compartments full is a wall. Guess I'm just weak! Carry on.

Corby you are so snobby!

08 22SSV
1150 belly
300 in the bow
2-750's is rear
100 to place where needed

Total 3050
Wake is super sick !!

Dang, you guys are wake snobs. We have an 05 VLX with factory 1250, a 725 in the middle, and 50 lbs of lead for a total of 2,000 even plus wedge. We have had riders doing grabbed TS 7s and BS 5s, crow mobes and skeezers, etc with no problem. You guys are just wasting gas...


but for you wake-o-philes, the other boat I ride frequently is my friend's 08 Xstar with factory ballast, 750s on either side of the engine, a 725 in the middle, and 2 sacks in the front under the seats that are prob 200-400 lbs each. I dont know the factory numbers or the front sacks, but its somewhere around 4,000 lbs.

ALL,

I dont really care what your opinion is about ballast...I'm merely requesting current totals.

Thanks,

The Management

Damn the Man!

haha, gotta love when people get offended about the ballast thing and use the common argument, "Well Scott Byerly could do all those tricks behind a ski boat with an outboard and no ballast." I love that argument. It's just fun to ride boats with big ass wakes even if you're not a pro or don't have a huge bag of tricks. I can do all my tricks behind my boat with half the weight I normally run, but you know what? IT's WAY MORE FUN TO BOOT OFF A HUGE WAKE...

/end rant

Amen Borther Amen.

06' MB B52V

Stock 1600
400lbs lead in nose
1000lbs sac in nose
400lbs sac in both rear lockers
Total = 3400 lbs

I have a Tige' and I do not need any ballast because I have TAPS!

Weight= 0 lbs
Taps= 7+, All the way up!!

Oh God. Please don't turn my thread into a Tige' bashing episode, guys.

I sure hope anyone bragging of riding with 4000-5000lbs. of weight didn't post in the I HATE WAKESURFING!!! thread

That wouldn't be the pot calling the kettle black or anything

Like was said before, please don't start bashing on tiges in response to this, but I'm curious as to how you guys think that works? Is it a suitable substitute?

^^^ No.

4,000lbs stock ballast in the EPIC 23v. saves alot of time, still have more then enough storage and nothing cluttering the floor.

Bag of tricks ???? Not so much a bag. But my friends that help pay for the gas and got skills are thankful of the extra weight!

07 vlx....
stock 1250
lead 1500
wedge all the way down up 1 click!
80' @ 23 mph.

04 SAN
1000 nose triangle sack
400 vdrive
400 vdrive
850 stock
550 isle to bow sack
=3350 total and one damn scary wake

4000 lbs in the 23v for us. Nothing like the joy of never plugging in another pump again. Epic has got it figured out for sure!

Yeah epic may have the weighting system figured out but the wake will never compare to an MC NAUTI or a BU

^ I would take an epic wake over anyone one of those, anyday.... have you ever been behind one?

Sure have.... 98 in beans just dont cmpare.... I also dont see the hype on it... if it was such a good boat they would have an awesome team and be pulling a big tour stop just my .02 cents

A stock 210 wake sucks just like anything else.

The tour is all about $$$$$, you think Mastercraft would let that happen.


Reguardless, out of the box, there is not boat that even compares.

There are way MORE EVENTS then the PWT... And that could be true out of the box but if there is something better when i slam it full of weight im going to buy that! This is Where MC NAUTI and BU kills them!

you all will argue about anything, who cares, OP asked how much, not your personal feelings on a boat

I had a 2009 VLX and just ordered my 2010.
Stock: 1250
Lead (midship): 400
Wedge: ???

If I have time, I loose the wedge and put 300 on each side of the motor.

I love a huge wake as much as the next guy, but I can't say that much changes about my riding stock ballast-->slammed except for my amplitude. I can't land anything new. Anyone else in my boat??

the malibu lsv im using this summer, nicknamed the "white knight":

1350 stock ballast
750 bow
750 floor
400 back seat

power wedge bewteen the "w" and "a" (not sure how much this supposedly add's).

3250 lbs. ballast (not including wedge) in a 3900 lb. boat.

I cant run this much weight with anything but a skeleton crew and I want to pitch out the prop so we can run more!

2001 Supra Launch DD

450 bow
725 center console
750 btw motor box and rear set (great for rear facing seet too!)
500 tank (seat)
600 on the rear seat (optional)
350 ski locker

= 3375# TOTAL

(do i need this much? no | do i have a big bag-o-tricks? hell no (maybe some day) | Am I wake obsessed? probably! | BUT, IF YOU HAVE A BIG WAKE, YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES! YOU CANT FINISH YOUR RUN AND SAY, "WELL, I WOULD HAVE LANDED THAT IF WAKE WAS RIGHT!" if i cant land SHIZ its because of me, not my boat or wake. period)

Not my boat, but my best friend runs:
01 X Star
750's in rear
750 bow sac
600 in the floor
400 in the walkway
350 in lead
3600 normally
Add the 400 he throws across the front seats if we've got a lot of riders for a total of 4K.
That thing is giant - I can't imagine Andy or IronJay's!
and sometimes another 400 up front

I am snob

-Subordinate Staff

Justin - That's because you have superior wake skills! I saw you throw down the craziest run in College Station behind a Ski Nautique. If you could throw everything behind that boat, then I'm sure a new Malibu with moderate weight is more than enough.

I was just curious on the trick bag and if anyone thought the big wake helped. I can land all of my tricks behind a stock 210 but I agree it is more fun to have a big wake. I run around 2300 in my supersport which is usually plenty. I actually find sometimes I have a harder time with certain tricks on a bigger wake.

2001 MC X10
Stock Ballast = NONE...pulled it out who needs that = 0lbs
1 Cinder block on each side of the motor = 30lbs
2 Cinder blocks in the bow = 30lbs
Blowup doll in the bow = 5lbs
Cooler full of redbull & Ice = 20lbs

Total = 85lbs...Rockin!

This thread is funny!

sbt3... I rode behind a stock '08 X2 a few weeks back. I could land all my tricks, but it's nowhere near as fun and I had to drop the grabs from most of my spins. You can get the job done and have a good time, but Scott (see above) has it right on. There is nothing more fun that being booted off a huge wake.



An oldie, but goodie.... Compliments of BC3

Ahhhhh, now that's a fun wake.

^^^^^^^^^ All hail the X-star!!

I'd have to call the weight calculations into a bit of question. I'd guess going off the "bag rating" overinflates things at least 5-10% heavy...e.g., most 750 lbs. bags only fill up to 700, etc. We're limited by altitude on weight but went from mid-2000 lbs (very good) to 3000 (amazing) on SANs at the Delta last year and the difference was noticeable, definitely extra amplitude and hang time. FUN!

Showing a shot of the X-star turning for a dumper wake is a bit misleading, Evan. I'm gonna have to come down and personally inspect that thing to verify...

For Us the wake is important but the DUB is just as important.

Colin Ryan Heading for a lunar landing.

I love the pic above Andy Ive seen the sequence and geezus thats huge

2005 Sea Ray 220 select
Base weight of boat 5000 lbs
Zero Ballast needed I use friends 5-6 each time we go.
Have used ballast once 750 fat sac in rear, integrated bow sac 650 in front ( used this configure when there was only three of us)

in addition to my dads post, if where up to me, another 3000 pounds would be in the boat

damn dude... at what point do we stop calling them dub ups and start calling them brick walls. Nintzel that thing would rip me apart, is that your dub? Please tell me thats #3!

Yep that's My Dub. I can rolling monsters. I am pretty sure that is the second Roller, but I dont remember. The are actually very Rampy on the Other side.

Session Si

2300 lbs well placed for a steep clean wake

I got more sac but (for over than a 1000 lbs) but the wake is so clean and give us the pop we need!

Last nites config!! I'll admit it was a bit to much of a jump from 2850-3350ish in my little boat!!!

WHEN IN DOUBT SLAM IT OUT!!!!!!!!

Yeah buddy! Must have been hard on you to have your boat that disorganized! I'm proud of you! I bet you guys we're boostin!

The real question I have though is... Did you grab your elephant?

Ha, ha, ha...

Brian, I can assure you that we were going dead straight. But you're welcome to come down for an inspection any time. That boat was super heavy that day. Full ballast and 10-ish peeps. That's was a big block in an X-star will get you.

Here are a couple more compliments of BC2.




Note that I was standing in the middle of the wake and it's still tall... LOL! It was a bit light that day though. Only 3 people in the boat.

Crazy how different the shape is on the delta. The 10' deep water just doesn't let the boat sink enough. It's got that vert kick at the delta and a smooth ramp at the lakes.

Hmmm... Those must be my favorite wake shot bordies.... I need to rock some new shorts. Ha, ha, ha.

Evan,
If you ask me your pics don't do the BC justice. I'm hoping to get another pull behind it this fall ?

How much do you guys run in your X-stars?