David, that's very helpful information thanks, I'll try my hand at some fab work... Hatepain- to answer your question it is designed that way from epic, it is recessed and has a carbon fiber style guard and sits pretty high across the back. If i can figure out how to add some pics i will. As for the sub woofers the new epic comes with 2 12" Kicker Solo-Baric L7's which i understand the cone much like alot of subs is water resistive.
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