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Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 3:33 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
We have a socialized military and it works.
Ironically the wealthy benefit from the military more than anyone. They have the most to lose but there is no wealth tax. So they pay no taxes and get a military to protect their assets. On top of that they think that the capital gains tax should be zero. I remember Romney running on that platform.

Maybe someone should run on the platform of funding the military with only a capital gains and wealth tax. It's a lot more logical than reducing taxes until the country is bankrupt.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-16-2020, 3:34 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
I said the population today is at least 5 times the population of the late 1800's, not five times less. When you move to making it 11, put it in the law that it cannot be changed for another 150 years. No big deal.
I’ve never seen anyone here wear their stupidity more proudly than you. WTH does the population have to do with the number of justices??? I’ll give you a hint. The answer rhymes with hero. Btw, adding 2 more will still leave a majority of justices who follow the constitution.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-16-2020, 3:38 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
Ironically the wealthy benefit from the military more than anyone. They have the most to lose but there is no wealth tax. So they pay no taxes and get a military to protect their assets. On top of that they think that the capital gains tax should be zero. I remember Romney running on that platform.

Maybe someone should run on the platform of funding the military with only a capital gains and wealth tax. It's a lot more logical than reducing taxes until the country is bankrupt.
I think you’re good friends with Joe.....
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 3:46 AM Reply   
I watched most of the town hall with Trump. Where is all of the uproar about the moderator interrupting Trump!?

She was soooo obviously left leaning that it's crazy

I usually start my news with Yahoo, then move to other sources.

Yahoo's take on the meeting....what the heck were they watching? Certainly not the same show that I was watching

and with regards to FB and Twitter. I agree with Hannity. If these social media outlets are going to act as editors, they need to lose their lawsuit protections. It makes no sense to me that our "leaders" were sooo upset and concerned about Russia influencing the 2016 election through social media, but they don't seem concerned at all about the media of all forms, influencing the vote when it favors them

We will never get rid of the polarization until this overwhelming media bias evens out.
Trump was right. He is campaigning against Biden, the media, and social media

another reason why the left will NEVER get my vote
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-16-2020, 3:47 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
Ironically the wealthy benefit from the military more than anyone. They have the most to lose but there is no wealth tax. So they pay no taxes and get a military to protect their assets. On top of that they think that the capital gains tax should be zero. I remember Romney running on that platform.

Maybe someone should run on the platform of funding the military with only a capital gains and wealth tax. It's a lot more logical than reducing taxes until the country is bankrupt.
There is that greed based thinking that is so nice and evil.

You think it is wealth that founded this country. It was freedom. Freedom is the most precious thing anyone owns.

As far as who makes out with the military. I would say the poor does. It is an opportunity to escape a crap hole existence money and family wise. Get put straight on how to live. Gain valuable training. Get money for additional college and then access to outstanding home loans for life.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 3:52 AM Reply   
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There is that greed based thinking that is so nice and evil.
Since nearly everything you say is the opposite of reality, I'll take that as a compliment.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-16-2020, 3:59 AM Reply   
Finally, a poll we can all trust...
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/penns...tial-elections
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 3:59 AM Reply   
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and with regards to FB and Twitter. I agree with Hannity. If these social media outlets are going to act as editors, they need to lose their lawsuit protections.
So if someone posts something in this thread that gets edited for being blatantly racist, then wakeworld becomes an editor and wakeworld should be subject to suit for all of the insane Q-anon derived nonsense that people post here?
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 4:03 AM Reply   
I have no idea what Q-anon is

I would imagine that wakeworld doesn't have lawsuit protections
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-16-2020, 4:12 AM Reply   
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I’ve never seen anyone here wear their stupidity more proudly than you. WTH does the population have to do with the number of justices??? I’ll give you a hint. The answer rhymes with hero. Btw, adding 2 more will still leave a majority of justices who follow the constitution.
I know you are, but what am I?
Nice argument, "your stupid"
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Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 4:13 AM Reply   
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I have no idea what Q-anon is

I would imagine that wakeworld doesn't have lawsuit protections
You may not know what Q-anon is, but you are certainly seeing its B.S. disinformation in your facebook feed.

You would imagine wrong as to WW's lawsuit protections, and it reflects your Hannity-only understanding of the world. The same law that protects Twitter and Facebook protects every single internet forum.

Some light reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectio...S.C.%20§%20230.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-16-2020, 4:18 AM Reply   
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So if someone posts something in this thread that gets edited for being blatantly racist, then wakeworld becomes an editor and wakeworld should be subject to suit for all of the insane Q-anon derived nonsense that people post here?
If you see nothing wrong with this sign, you might be a redneck.
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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 4:28 AM Reply   
well, thanks for assuming that I understand only Hannity's world.

Just because I frequently agree with Fox news, Hannity, Glenn Beck, etal, doesn't mean that that's the only view point I agree with or am exposed to

but hey

then yes, if social media platforms are going to edit out view points that they disagree with, then they should lose any lawsuit protections that they might have.

I would think that the left would embrace such a thing. After all, it then wouldn't discriminate
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-16-2020, 4:36 AM Reply   
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I know you are, but what am I?
Nice argument, "your stupid"
Actually, you won’t respond to my argument. You can’t even understand the irrelevance of the US population to the S.C. The joke is on you. Let’s ask any single one of your libtard counterparts here to help your dumb as$ out and try to make your argument since you can’t. Hey libtards, since the population has grown, why hasn’t the S.C. grown? My friend Joe here seems to think we’ll get more cases handled if the number of justices increases and corresponds to our population. Can one of you explain (no mansplaining) how the SC works? He’s a little sloooooow.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 4:36 AM Reply   
Faux News gets lawsuit protection from intentional lies simply because it's obviously non credible. So I don't know why social media should lose that protection from deleting suspected lies.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/91774...ay-fox-s-lawye
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       10-16-2020, 4:37 AM Reply   
Social media avoids FCC over site because they are currently considered a 3rd party publisher of information and not a publisher, is the way I understand it. It may be time to change that rule and bring them under their wing.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 4:48 AM Reply   
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well, thanks for assuming that I understand only Hannity's world.

Just because I frequently agree with Fox news, Hannity, Glenn Beck, etal, doesn't mean that that's the only view point I agree with or am exposed to

but hey

then yes, if social media platforms are going to edit out view points that they disagree with, then they should lose any lawsuit protections that they might have.

I would think that the left would embrace such a thing. After all, it then wouldn't discriminate
My bad -- my Hannity comment was over the top. Cliff you are one of the brighter and more reasonable folks on this thread, though I do fear that you trust your preferred sources a bit too much and don't seem to put a lot of effort into questioning them.

One person's "points of view they disagree with" is another person's blatant lies and falsehoods. But the reality is that if you get rid of the ability to edit content and still preserve immunity from suit, then it turns FB and Twitter (and WW) into a porn and hate marketplace.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 4:50 AM Reply   
hmmmm, Fly

the way that I read that article, was that a lawsuit was indeed filed. The claimant just failed to present her case well enough for it to move forward.

That's all that is being suggested with social media outlets.

Let the cases be filed. It doesn't mean that they will win

extrapolate this forward.

Today it's facebook and twitter blocking posts from the Trump side. Tomorrow it might be from the left. Eventually they might decide to only allow posts that don't reflect either of our sides. Perhaps it would be Russia's agenda, North Korea, or to the highest bidder.....with no repercussion

I'm only suggesting, like Hannity, to remove their protection.

It's funny, the left wants to remove legal protections for police officers, but no Zuckerderp.....
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 4:53 AM Reply   
thanks shawndoggy

I will admit to not putting a lot of effort into current events

Covid
own restaurants
elderly brother with covid
ex-wife (kids mom) with cancer

I have become much more knee jerk reactionary than I'd like

I will work on expanding my horizons....
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 5:00 AM Reply   
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thanks shawndoggy

I will admit to not putting a lot of effort into current events

Covid
own restaurants
elderly brother with covid
ex-wife (kids mom) with cancer

I have become much more knee jerk reactionary than I'd like

I will work on expanding my horizons....
virtual fist bump. Hang in there buddy and get on the bike when you can. No better therapy.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 5:11 AM Reply   
thanks
I went for a quick 20 mile ride at 11:30 last night. Local police pulled me over for doing over 30 mph.
I couldn't believe it.
I wear a helmet, have lights, all safety measures to help with being seen at night

He gave me a warning.I laughed it off.

I told him that; After a long day at work, being into the ride past the 15 mile mark, being 56 years old, flat road with no tail wind.....and still cruise over 30mph.....I took it as a compliment that he clocked me at that speed
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 5:12 AM Reply   
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Social media avoids FCC over site because they are currently considered a 3rd party publisher of information and not a publisher, is the way I understand it. It may be time to change that rule and bring them under their wing.
Because we need a nanny state? What are you going to sue about? Do we need to remove the right for private enterprise to control what people use their platform for? Is this so we can sue every media outlet for any bias at all? How is a social media site responsible for your emotional disturbance over not being able to say what you want on their platform? When was the last time you wanted to sue Fox News for all the tooling and half truths they publish?

You are advocating that social media be sued for other people's lies. That pretty much means they would need to invoke draconian measures to vet every post before goes online. No more links to Hannity or Tucker. Those would be deleted without review. You can't sue because they deleted a post that might be the truth. You will have no right to demand your posts go online because you don't own the platform. Unless of course you want the nanny state to make private property public. Let's see Rush be forced to provide equal time to opposite opinions. No more bully pulpits. That would get you sued.

The lawsuit protection is to allow people to speak their mind without the facilitators being responsible for micro policing the content. But it sounds like you want to do away with that. You want social media to police what people say. Seems like the last time that Congress wished for that, it happened. Don't you hate it when we get what we wish for?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 5:25 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by ord27 View Post
thanks
I went for a quick 20 mile ride at 11:30 last night. Local police pulled me over for doing over 30 mph.
I couldn't believe it.
I wear a helmet, have lights, all safety measures to help with being seen at night

He gave me a warning.I laughed it off.

I told him that; After a long day at work, being into the ride past the 15 mile mark, being 56 years old, flat road with no tail wind.....and still cruise over 30mph.....I took it as a compliment that he clocked me at that speed
That's the ticket you'd frame and put in your trophy case!
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       10-16-2020, 5:25 AM Reply   
Fly, that went a lot further than I was thinking

In this instance, a New York paper published an article that claimed that they had proof that Biden was lying about his involvement with a foreign country and his son (over simple, I know)

But the ramification is that
A)he lied. this only bothers me because of all of the allagations about Trump lying. but, they all lie

B) that there was quid pro quo. Again, this bothers me because the left has cried for 4 years about Trump's alleged QPQ


so why block the post, certainly if it's just a link.

seems very one sided.

If it's true, then Biden, if elected, needs to drop out, or face the same impeachment probe that Trump faced

if it proves to be false, then it's just another in a long list of false news from both sides

Twitter has since changed it's policy of blocking and posting

I for one, am glad that Cruz is having this looked into.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 6:02 AM Reply   
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If it's true, then Biden, if elected, needs to drop out, or face the same impeachment probe that Trump faced.
If the Democrats hold the Senate then Biden will claim the emails were perfect and it's a hoax. Then the Senate will hold a kangaroo court and declare it a nothing burger. Because that's how American's like their preferred party to behave.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-16-2020, 6:06 AM Reply   
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That's the ticket you'd frame and put in your trophy case!
Yeah, I'd definitely frame that one. Right after going to court to defend myself by claiming that going over 30mph on a flat road and windless night flies against the face of reality. Even if it's true it's still credible to claim it's not.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 6:45 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by shawndoggy View Post
We have socialized police and everybody loves 'em.

We have socialized education here and for the most part people are happy with it.

We have socialized fire departments and that seems OK.

We have a socialized military and it works.

We have socialized border patrol too.

Where the high paid docs in the USA gonna go if we socialize medicine too? Mexico? Canada? India? Jamaica?
we do not have socialized police, we have private, local and country etcetc
we dont have socialized fire, we have local and county, and local is tax payer, so is county and a requested by the township, or borrow, or city
we dont have socialized military as it is a non required duty, if we lived in a country were you had to server 4 years, then yes it would be
we dont have socialized boarder patrol. we decide to have the gov, with our money, protect it, socialized board patrol would be a mandatory control unit. we also have 3rd party, independent patrols, within the boundary of the fed program.

So when you blanket, socialize something, it eliminates the others, its enclusive unless you allow options or independent control. Socialized medicine would kill private pay insurance unless you agree to have a multi party system
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-16-2020, 6:50 AM Reply   
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We can have a public healthcare system, its simple. Have a separate program, with doctors wiling to work for scraps. Doctors make pennies in other countries.
Lol, you should see it here doctors are keep in cages like chickens or children at the American border.
You know doctors are some of the highest paid professionals here right?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-16-2020, 6:52 AM Reply   
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So when you blanket, socialize something, it eliminates the others, its enclusive unless you allow options or independent control. Socialized medicine would kill private pay insurance unless you agree to have a multi party system
You don't know what socialized means, pro tip, it's not what Faux news tells you it is.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-16-2020, 6:54 AM Reply   
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That's the ticket you'd frame and put in your trophy case!
Agree, I would have demanded a ticket and a selfie with the cop to show my mates.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       10-16-2020, 6:55 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by fly135 View Post
Because we need a nanny state? What are you going to sue about? Do we need to remove the right for private enterprise to control what people use their platform for? Is this so we can sue every media outlet for any bias at all? How is a social media site responsible for your emotional disturbance over not being able to say what you want on their platform? When was the last time you wanted to sue Fox News for all the tooling and half truths they publish?

You are advocating that social media be sued for other people's lies. That pretty much means they would need to invoke draconian measures to vet every post before goes online. No more links to Hannity or Tucker. Those would be deleted without review. You can't sue because they deleted a post that might be the truth. You will have no right to demand your posts go online because you don't own the platform. Unless of course you want the nanny state to make private property public. Let's see Rush be forced to provide equal time to opposite opinions. No more bully pulpits. That would get you sued.

The lawsuit protection is to allow people to speak their mind without the facilitators being responsible for micro policing the content. But it sounds like you want to do away with that. You want social media to police what people say. Seems like the last time that Congress wished for that, it happened. Don't you hate it when we get what we wish for?
Easy there old timer. They are immune from FCC over site. I have no idea about lawsuits and such.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 7:03 AM Reply   
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Lol, you should see it here doctors are keep in cages like chickens or children at the American border.
You know doctors are some of the highest paid professionals here right?
your doctors make 100k a year to start, then average 150k for internal med, specialist make tops 300k Thats a joke buddy.. total joke, we have doctors making 3 to 5 x that. So please, and yes I have a personal friend, who lives in Marshall NC, (mountains) left NZ as he said it was a total joke, terrible health system. all general basic care. so I dont know what you think income is, but 100k is chump change for a doctor, or anyone who wants to live a moderate life.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-16-2020, 7:06 AM Reply   
Writing on the wall, R's jumping off the sinking ship.

Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse. On a conference call with constituents this week, Sasse positively savaged Trump's leadership during the pandemic, saying he didn't think "the way he's led through COVID has been reasonable or responsible, or right."


Sasse assailed Trump's foreign-policy predilection for kissing dictators' butts, selling out our allies, and ignoring China's concentration camps filled with Uighur Muslims and the death of democracy in Hong Kong.

The senator also decried "the way he treats women," the way he "spends like a drunken sailor," the way "his family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity," the way he'd "flirted with white supremacists," and the way he "mocks evangelicals behind closed doors."

To reiterate: This wasn't a secret recording. This was a public conference call. Sasse absolutely wanted this message to get out. With his eyes on a possible 2024 presidential run, the onetime Trump critic who then sought his endorsement is signaling: "I'm not with him."
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-16-2020, 7:14 AM Reply   
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your doctors make 100k a year to start, then average 150k for internal med, specialist make tops 300k Thats a joke buddy.. total joke, we have doctors making 3 to 5 x that. So please, and yes I have a personal friend, who lives in Marshall NC, (mountains) left NZ as he said it was a total joke, terrible health system. all general basic care. so I dont know what you think income is, but 100k is chump change for a doctor, or anyone who wants to live a moderate life.
Lol depends what your cost of living is, if you don't have healthcare and education costs and housingistrainable then 100k is ok to start on.

The reality is the US spends double per capita what other countries do and a good proportion have no access, that's a joke!
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 7:17 AM Reply   
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we do not have socialized police, we have private, local and country etcetc
we dont have socialized fire, we have local and county, and local is tax payer, so is county and a requested by the township, or borrow, or city
we dont have socialized military as it is a non required duty, if we lived in a country were you had to server 4 years, then yes it would be
we dont have socialized boarder patrol. we decide to have the gov, with our money, protect it, socialized board patrol would be a mandatory control unit. we also have 3rd party, independent patrols, within the boundary of the fed program.

So when you blanket, socialize something, it eliminates the others, its enclusive unless you allow options or independent control. Socialized medicine would kill private pay insurance unless you agree to have a multi party system

Do your cops only come for taxpayers? Same for fire? Where I live the fire department comes and puts out everybody’s fire no matter how much tax was paid. So rich folks pay higher taxes and subsidize the cost to the poor. You know “spreading the wealth around.” Same for schools, police, roads, and parks. Its socialism at the county level Doug. I’m surprised you cannot grasp that.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 7:19 AM Reply   
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Lol depends what your cost of living is, if you don't have healthcare and education costs and housingistrainable then 100k is ok to start on.

The reality is the US spends double per capita what other countries do and a good proportion have no access, that's a joke!
Most people, with good employment, have coverage, amazing coverage. not socialized medicine coverage. plus, the doctors make money, want to make money and have control over treatment. not the government. So If I was on a committee in the NZ government, telling them what kind of treatment we should cover and manage, the doctors are all under the thumb of the government. Thats crazy. And your cost of living is off the charts in NZ. So while you think its not, your stats prove otherwise. Your housing is off the charts, your taxes are high, your health coverage is average at best, and you have little to no control over any of it. So tell me why its so amazing?
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-16-2020, 7:26 AM Reply   
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If you see nothing wrong with this sign, you might be a redneck.
You do realize that democrats run around with that sign on their cars all the time right? I don't think you know what the words mean that you are trying to convey.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 7:28 AM Reply   
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Do your cops only come for taxpayers? Same for fire? Where I live the fire department comes and puts out everybody’s fire no matter how much tax was paid. So rich folks pay higher taxes and subsidize the cost to the poor. You know “spreading the wealth around.” Same for schools, police, roads, and parks. Its socialism at the county level Doug. I’m surprised you cannot grasp that.
All our fire, police and EMS services are self funded, no federal funding. I dont live inside a "city limit" our fire is volunteer and we pay for the coverage. our police are local city and funded by country tax payers (US) to decide on their system. We dont have to have local, we can have state cover our county, like many, but we decide and they are great. So maybe chicago, la, large cities have all the city funding though gov funding, thats not most of america.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 7:30 AM Reply   
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Lol depends what your cost of living is, if you don't have healthcare and education costs and housingistrainable then 100k is ok to start on.

The reality is the US spends double per capita what other countries do and a good proportion have no access, that's a joke!
The cost of living in NZ is very high, and most people, based on stats, buy or have (from employer) independent, secondary, health insurance. So while everyone loves to talk about single payer health care. looks like the majority of the civilized world has secondary health insurance,. BECAUSE their socialized coverage is ****. and only covers basic services. JUNK

The left, here, wants single payer health care. So we dump all our money into their corrupt system, and have no way out. I am all for everyone having a health option. but dont tell me what I need or what I want as my coverage. People move to different companies to get premium coverage, I dont need to wait 6 months to have a lump looked at. People die waiting or social care. We have VA nightmares, regarding coverage, so bad, we had to open private coverage to Vertrans, Thank god, as people could not get help for months and months. Not going to let the gov control anything if possible.

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Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-16-2020, 7:31 AM Reply   
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Lol depends what your cost of living is, if you don't have healthcare and education costs and housingistrainable then 100k is ok to start on.

The reality is the US spends double per capita what other countries do and a good proportion have no access, that's a joke!
Everyone has access. The LAW requires any and all people to be seen. period. quit with that lie that no one has access.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-16-2020, 7:33 AM Reply   
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Do your cops only come for taxpayers? Same for fire? Where I live the fire department comes and puts out everybody’s fire no matter how much tax was paid. So rich folks pay higher taxes and subsidize the cost to the poor. You know “spreading the wealth around.” Same for schools, police, roads, and parks. Its socialism at the county level Doug. I’m surprised you cannot grasp that.
You mean to tell me the rich do pay their fare share? Tell me more......

Some places the fire department will let your house burn if you have not paid into the tax system for fire.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-16-2020, 7:46 AM Reply   
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Fly, that went a lot further than I was thinking

In this instance, a New York paper published an article that claimed that they had proof that Biden was lying about his involvement with a foreign country and his son (over simple, I know)

But the ramification is that
A)he lied. this only bothers me because of all of the allagations about Trump lying. but, they all lie

B) that there was quid pro quo. Again, this bothers me because the left has cried for 4 years about Trump's alleged QPQ


so why block the post, certainly if it's just a link.

seems very one sided.

If it's true, then Biden, if elected, needs to drop out, or face the same impeachment probe that Trump faced

if it proves to be false, then it's just another in a long list of false news from both sides

Twitter has since changed it's policy of blocking and posting

I for one, am glad that Cruz is having this looked into.
The Post is a "Tabloid", not a NY paper. Check their content. https://nypost.com/covers/ Do you really think you are going to get a hard hitting News story from a rag sitting next to the Enquirer on the newsstand?
I think it took less than 24 hours for this story peter out. Its Rudy, again pushing false russian narrative. Im sure more proof of this is coming. FOX will prob still push it, well because they legally lie to you. This story came with all the red flags saying, hold on a minute here. Trump and the right needed an October Surprise, so lets do this too. Trump was warned by his Intelligence officers in Feb. that Rudy was compromised, that any documents he produced, would more than likely be disinformation. So immediately Trump runs with it, FOX runs with it knowing it was most likely fake.
So if Biden should drop out "if true", what should happen to those pushing a story they know to be false? Trumps pushing it, do we impeach again? Let them continue to falsely rile up their watchers? Sounds unethical at best. They are the reason for unbridled hate on democrats. And they have to cheat to do it.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       10-16-2020, 7:53 AM Reply   
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If you see nothing wrong with this sign, you might be a redneck.
I have only seen this sticker on Prius's with Obama and Biden stickers.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-16-2020, 8:00 AM Reply   
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I have only seen this sticker on Prius's with Obama and Biden stickers.
No you haven't, I made the design and this one is unique, do you think it is racist?
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-16-2020, 8:04 AM Reply   
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You do realize that democrats run around with that sign on their cars all the time right? I don't think you know what the words mean that you are trying to convey.
You better look closer or take a pic, this sign is spoof that their are good people on both sides.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-16-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
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Actually, you won’t respond to my argument. You can’t even understand the irrelevance of the US population to the S.C. The joke is on you. Let’s ask any single one of your libtard counterparts here to help your dumb as$ out and try to make your argument since you can’t. Hey libtards, since the population has grown, why hasn’t the S.C. grown? My friend Joe here seems to think we’ll get more cases handled if the number of justices increases and corresponds to our population. Can one of you explain (no mansplaining) how the SC works? He’s a little sloooooow.
I know I am but what are you?

I never said they would get more cases done, those are Your words, I just said if the judges were increased to a count of 11, nobody would notice any difference, we would just have close decisions of 6-5 instead of 5-4, which is true, how is the voter suppression going?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 9:35 AM Reply   
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No you haven't, I made the design and this one is unique, do you think it is racist?
What is a racist?
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 10:05 AM Reply   
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You mean to tell me the rich do pay their fare share? Tell me more......
Yeah, it's called socialism. Been working right here in America under your nose for 100 years!
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-16-2020, 10:07 AM Reply   
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Some places the fire department will let your house burn if you have not paid into the tax system for fire.
How many people live in those "some places?" Have a hard example you can link to? Do they let your children die too if they are trapped inside?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-16-2020, 2:12 PM Reply   
France, UK, and Belgium combined, still smaller than the USA, have had, in equal numbers, 250,000 new cases. If they were our size in population, it would be more. So we are having 5x less cases per day than the "AMAZING EUROPE" People need to shut the **** up! To add insult to injury, their economy has been clobbered over the first shut downs, and now they are looking at extreme depression.

Amazing, all the winter countries, coming out of flu season is 95% down in flu cases. Its amazing how wrong our Scientists are. Continually wrong on all fronts. Stupid at all levels.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-17-2020, 12:14 AM Reply   
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Amazing, all the winter countries, coming out of flu season is 95% down in flu cases. Its amazing how wrong our Scientists are. Continually wrong on all fronts. Stupid at all levels.
Sooooo.... it's your position that social distancing and masks won't work on the flu then?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-17-2020, 12:43 AM Reply   
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Sooooo.... it's your position that social distancing and masks won't work on the flu then?
I have no position, as I believe all the data is wrong, at all moments, and continually changes, like the wind, and when its all over, they will look back and say how they were wrong on so many fronts. so while we, on this stupid thread, argue who's right and wrong, the data continues to be wrong, and the experts continue to be wrong and people who are feeding it into the media are political hacks, that will end up wrong. The data being recorded is manipulated, some for lowering cases, some for increasing cases.

The data from Asia has not weight what so ever. Its almost comical that we even take their data into consideration, Europe is a mess, sweden says we are all fools, and lock downs are hurting millions. The WHO is a joke, now saying the cure is worse than the disease. The possibility of dying, today, with treatments, is less than getting hit by lightning.

Wear a mask, social distance, do whatever you need to do to feel like you are in control of this, but no one is and no one can control it. So stop saying how evil and bad the people of the States are. Your hate speak towards americans is the problem.

Do you think every single person in India is wearing a mask? Or any other country, all the time? People are wearing masked, people are social distancing, people are! but dont be fooled, Nancy P is not, live on TV, for everyone to see, she didn't and many others have not too, including every single person on this board, who have spent any time near anyone in their family, or friends or neighbors. that you do not live with. So get off the high horse, and stop acting like you are locking in your basement with JOE and have not seen the light of day in 8 months.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-17-2020, 2:56 AM Reply   
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I have no position, as I believe all the data is wrong, at all moments, and continually changes, like the wind, and when its all over, they will look back and say how they were wrong on so many fronts. so while we, on this stupid thread, argue who's right and wrong, the data continues to be wrong, and the experts continue to be wrong and people who are feeding it into the media are political hacks, that will end up wrong. The data being recorded is manipulated, some for lowering cases, some for increasing cases.

The data from Asia has not weight what so ever. Its almost comical that we even take their data into consideration, Europe is a mess, sweden says we are all fools, and lock downs are hurting millions. The WHO is a joke, now saying the cure is worse than the disease. The possibility of dying, today, with treatments, is less than getting hit by lightning.

Wear a mask, social distance, do whatever you need to do to feel like you are in control of this, but no one is and no one can control it. So stop saying how evil and bad the people of the States are. Your hate speak towards americans is the problem.

Do you think every single person in India is wearing a mask? Or any other country, all the time? People are wearing masked, people are social distancing, people are! but dont be fooled, Nancy P is not, live on TV, for everyone to see, she didn't and many others have not too, including every single person on this board, who have spent any time near anyone in their family, or friends or neighbors. that you do not live with. So get off the high horse, and stop acting like you are locking in your basement with JOE and have not seen the light of day in 8 months.
Sounds like you have a lot of pent up emotions there Doug. I'm not sure what "hate speak" is but I don't have any.

I can't really unpack what you are writing because you seem to just jump from point to point.

Can you maybe explain what you see wrong with South Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese COVID data?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-17-2020, 3:55 AM Reply   
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Sounds like you have a lot of pent up emotions there Doug. I'm not sure what "hate speak" is but I don't have any.

I can't really unpack what you are writing because you seem to just jump from point to point.

Can you maybe explain what you see wrong with South Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese COVID data?
So funny, there are studies on Covid strain immunity is many parts of the Asia countries, as many have had large, extended, periods of other similar covid strains that the rest of the world have not. So T cell development, in Korea, Japan, China and others is far greater than here or in Europe, Also contributing to what some believe to be the reason dealth rates are lower.

Also more data showing different genetic makeups that limit, or decrease the intensity of the disease if contracted. There is so much data that we won't have for years. but we all, the world. seems to think that all these measures are written in Gold, until years later we find out we were all wrong.

I am not angry, i am tired of hearing all the misinformation.and hearing people talk about it as if they have any clue what they are talking about. Then spinning this into a political argument. Its not. its a bug, that we cannot stop or control, so while we try to different measures to contain it. we find that those measures continue to change. Before we know it, in about 4 weeks. the next pile of propaganda will be to stop sheltering in place. open everything up. Watch!
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-18-2020, 5:00 AM Reply   
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So funny, there are studies on Covid strain immunity is many parts of the Asia countries, as many have had large, extended, periods of other similar covid strains that the rest of the world have not. So T cell development, in Korea, Japan, China and others is far greater than here or in Europe, Also contributing to what some believe to be the reason dealth rates are lower.

Also more data showing different genetic makeups that limit, or decrease the intensity of the disease if contracted. There is so much data that we won't have for years. but we all, the world. seems to think that all these measures are written in Gold, until years later we find out we were all wrong.

I am not angry, i am tired of hearing all the misinformation.and hearing people talk about it as if they have any clue what they are talking about. Then spinning this into a political argument. Its not. its a bug, that we cannot stop or control, so while we try to different measures to contain it. we find that those measures continue to change. Before we know it, in about 4 weeks. the next pile of propaganda will be to stop sheltering in place. open everything up. Watch!
I agree 100%, the misinfo has to stop. Ive read the asian diet and the fact few are over weight also helps their numbers. They are also much more likely to wear masks. They picked up the habit from previous pandemic info. They do not question it makes a difference, unlike the US. In the past, i was like, what the hell, why is that asian lady in a mask, in her car and wearing gloves?!? Once Covid hit, i began to understand why. In case youre curious about misinformation, and where it comes from... Also, Trump said the same thing at his townhall the other night, there he was corrected in real time.
https://www.axios.com/scott-atlas-tw...m_content=1100

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...124951839.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...esperate-ones/

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ngs-joe-biden/
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-18-2020, 8:19 PM Reply   
Where are your next bag of lies coming from Rod? Nice try but looks like the rehashed attempt at an email-based October surprise is an unsurprising dud.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/b...gtype=Homepage
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-18-2020, 8:25 PM Reply   
Can smell the stench of desperation from here haha - the projection is turned up to 11 lol

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe.../#35a6b7b4f1bf
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-19-2020, 12:27 AM Reply   
Renewed my license to complain for another 4 years yesterday by voting early, in person. It was SUPER easy, and took all of about 10 minutes. While there are multiple polling places set up around the county, the registrar of voters set up a massive polling place in our convention center with 50 voting machines. There were lines at some of the other polling places, but the convention center was a piece of cake. Thankfully during early voting you can vote at any polling place regardless of precinct. I forgot to bring my mail in ballot with me so I had to sign an affidavit acknowledging that it's a felony to attempt to vote twice. Shredded the mail in ballot when I got home.

Love you America!
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-19-2020, 4:50 AM Reply   
Joe “shoot em in the legs“ Biden is gonna have some ‘splainin to do about his crack-smokin, drug addict son come the next debate.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-19-2020, 5:08 AM Reply   
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Joe “shoot em in the legs“ Biden is gonna have some ‘splainin to do about his crack-smokin, drug addict son come the next debate.
If that's the best Trump has, that's pretty sad. Win on the record, win on policy. He's been the president for almost 4 years, he should stand on his record.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-19-2020, 5:18 AM Reply   
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Joe “shoot em in the legs“ Biden is gonna have some ‘splainin to do about his crack-smokin, drug addict son come the next debate.
Why? I dont think Biden is in to nepotism like the current guy. I dont think he will give Biden Jr a top secret security clearance, and put him in the admin as an advisor, do you? I thought Jr was clean now. Amirite?
Didnt Bush Jr. have a little Coke problem along with his alcoholism?
Ya gotta pat people on the back and support them, those that beat drug abuse and alcoholism are on a positive path. If anything Trump should congratulate Sleepy Joe for supporting his son through tough times and Jrs. turn around.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       10-19-2020, 5:55 AM Reply   
Trump Mocks Biden, Says Biden will listen to the scientists!
https://thehill.com/homenews/521638-...sts-if-elected

Because he wont.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/r...vid-task-force
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       10-19-2020, 8:35 AM Reply   
There, fixed it for you
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/s...11506613325824
The Lincoln project fixed Don Jr.'s rant against Biden's son who coincidentally is not going to have anything to do with the White House when Joe gets in, unlike Trump's son who is in complete control of all of Trumps finances And stocks, so he Can keep his dad up to speed on Everything to do with the family business.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       10-19-2020, 9:46 AM Reply   
I just hope y’all are voting. Trump WILL win if turnout is low.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 12:39 PM Reply   
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I just hope y’all are voting. Trump WILL win if turnout is low.
there are only 2 or 3 democrats on this thread lol I am sure people will vote, but prob not for China Joe
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 12:43 PM Reply   
BTW, Hunter Biden go's out, on the town, with no shirt on and just a jacket. Is that strange? Those emails are not so nice, I wonder how his father feels about little Hunter China?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 12:57 PM Reply   
Funny, now All of Hunter "H" and the BIG MAN Joe, former business partners, now in jail. are all dumping their dirt to slam them both. So now Archer and "H" cronies are going to clobber him and his father, all the money from china, russia, urkraine, all the illegal, back door deals, while BIG MAN was in office as VP, all the emails, and laundering, as well as JiLL BIDEN, BIG MAMA, lol, was in on all of it.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 1:17 PM Reply   
left wing, CNN news reporter jacking off on a zoom call. and it was on. lol
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-19-2020, 1:22 PM Reply   
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Funny, now All of Hunter "H" and the BIG MAN Joe, former business partners, now in jail. are all dumping their dirt to slam them both. So now Archer and "H" cronies are going to clobber him and his father, all the money from china, russia, urkraine, all the illegal, back door deals, while BIG MAN was in office as VP, all the emails, and laundering, as well as JiLL BIDEN, BIG MAMA, lol, was in on all of it.
So your concerned about corruption but got no problem with the Trump crime family, hmmmmm.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 1:28 PM Reply   
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So your concerned about corruption but got no problem with the Trump crime family, hmmmmm.
nope, not concerned about the Bidens crimes, if he was not the VP when he made the deals. But he was the VP, made the family deals. what will he do if he is the pres? He was willing to make deals, for himself, indirectly, while the VP of our country. this was in 14 to 2017. this is not a trump issue, or a Russia scam, they greased their wheels with china, Russia and others. he did this while holding office.

Outside of the VP, let the system go after him, but we can see the FBI is a train wreck, at least then, and they hid this to protect the Bidens. And we the people keep paying for this boobs.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-19-2020, 1:44 PM Reply   
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nope, not concerned about the Bidens crimes, if he was not the VP when he made the deals. But he was the VP, made the family deals. what will he do if he is the pres? He was willing to make deals, for himself, indirectly, while the VP of our country. this was in 14 to 2017. this is not a trump issue, or a Russia scam, they greased their wheels with china, Russia and others. he did this while holding office.

Outside of the VP, let the system go after him, but we can see the FBI is a train wreck, at least then, and they hid this to protect the Bidens. And we the people keep paying for this boobs.
Lets see what the investigation brings, I bet nothing.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       10-19-2020, 2:05 PM Reply   
Americans once laughed at the notion of losing our rights, but not anymore. as we see our freedoms being smashed. cancel culture stopping anyone who does not agree with the left agenda. Kids having to take down MAGA signs, in their homes, because the teachers dont like that message on a zoom meeting this is scary, crazy and dangerous. and its getting out of control.

Either you shut up and like the left BS or you lose your job, get called a racists, get your windows smashed out, they burn you business or property down, and destroy you ability to free speech. Kinda like China.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-19-2020, 3:20 PM Reply   
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Americans once laughed at the notion of losing our rights, but not anymore. as we see our freedoms being smashed. cancel culture stopping anyone who does not agree with the left agenda. Kids having to take down MAGA signs, in their homes, because the teachers dont like that message on a zoom meeting this is scary, crazy and dangerous. and its getting out of control.

Either you shut up and like the left BS or you lose your job, get called a racists, get your windows smashed out, they burn you business or property down, and destroy you ability to free speech. Kinda like China.
Except in China it's the government that keeps you inline, in the USA it's your fellow citizens. Quite the country.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-19-2020, 3:21 PM Reply   
Serious question, if Trump wins will he lock up Biden like he locked up Hillary, built the wall and stopped the migrant caravan?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-19-2020, 4:11 PM Reply   
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left wing, CNN news reporter jacking off on a zoom call. and it was on. lol
Lol!

https://nypost.com/2020/10/19/jeffre...r-bigs-report/
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       10-19-2020, 7:12 PM Reply   
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Was probably dreaming of Biden winning
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       10-19-2020, 7:51 PM Reply   
hahahaha I think we all owe this Toobin jaggoff a thank you for injecting some universal levity into the last couple weeks before the election. Thanks to him we have a Fox News piece regarding an msnbc broadcast with reporters cracking up over a cnn guest analyst pleasuring himself while playing the part of “the courts” in an election simulation... guess he thought he was supposed to pull a Kavanaugh and boof himself... classic

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-...n-masturbation
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-20-2020, 1:48 AM Reply   
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hahahaha I think we all owe this Toobin jaggoff a thank you for injecting some universal levity into the last couple weeks before the election. Thanks to him we have a Fox News piece regarding an msnbc broadcast with reporters cracking up over a cnn guest analyst pleasuring himself while playing the part of “the courts” in an election simulation... guess he thought he was supposed to pull a Kavanaugh and boof himself... classic

https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-...n-masturbation
“Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper demanded a copy of the video.”

So funny that this degenerate is one of CNN’s top guests. Should that surprise anyone?
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       10-20-2020, 4:59 AM Reply   
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I just hope y’all are voting. Trump WILL win if turnout is low.
Voted “Bye Don” yesterday.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       10-20-2020, 5:57 AM Reply   
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How many people live in those "some places?" Have a hard example you can link to? Do they let your children die too if they are trapped inside?
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39516346/n...let-home-burn/

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Firefighters in rural Tennessee let a home burn to the ground last week because the homeowner hadn't paid a $75 fee.

Gene Cranick of Obion County and his family lost all of their possessions in the Sept. 29 fire, along with three dogs and a cat.

We Let Homes Burn Sometimes: 6 Realities As A Firefighter

https://www.cracked.com/personal-exp...refighter.html
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