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Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-05-2009, 1:57 PM Reply   
The thread called "what trick is this" got me thinking about how amazing orbitals are and why no one else beside The Scud (Darin Shapiro) are doing them. Beside the fact the trick looks like it takes an amazing amount of strength and god given natural wakeboard ability, why do we not see more people doing them. They look sick, stylish, and super clean, typically people are all about tricks like that, that scream style and control, except the Orbital. Anybody know of any other riders doing orbitals?

Just in case you have no Idea what I am talking about (and honestly I hope every one knows what an Orbital is) An Orbital is a Backside 540 or a 720 where the rider goes over the top of the rope for the first 360 instead of passing the handle, Shapiro does one in this video at the 2:50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgtLnAJofY

Here is the video I am talking about. Toss up some video if you know of any one else doing them I would love to see it! Next summer might have to be the summer of trying to learn Orbitals in Minnesota.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       01-05-2009, 2:27 PM Reply   
Bring it back!

IMO #1 they're difficult. #2 Unfortunately, I don't think most folks know they exist...

Obviously WW'ers are a more astute crowd, so this should get interesting!
Old    00wakesetter            01-05-2009, 2:28 PM Reply   
I dont know to many people doing bs 5 much less off axis and corked out like that. That looks dope!
Old     (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-05-2009, 2:33 PM Reply   
I think I remember seeing Murray or Cobe doing them. I know for sure they do the outside in bs 180 orbitals
Old     (liquidmx)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-05-2009, 2:33 PM Reply   
Straight RAW for sure!
Old     (the_bum)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-05-2009, 2:40 PM Reply   
I'm down to try! Any chance we could get some tips straight from Shapiro?
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-05-2009, 2:43 PM Reply   
Jake
-I was hoping the same thing-

A lot of people are going doing BS OA 540, but not like the Orbital, those are more like Handle Pass tantrums, I know that's what mine look like.
Old     (showmedonttellme)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-05-2009, 2:54 PM Reply   
Lets see, how do i train for this......besides learning BS3s and 5s. ;) Go to the gym and put the cable pulley down on the bottom notch. Squat on a bench and try to pull the cable out behind your body, below the bench level.......with a 100lbs on the cable. I've always thought it looked like the hardest strength move at the end of a rope.
Old     (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       01-05-2009, 2:56 PM Reply   
What about his crazy HS BS O/A 5's?? You don't see many people doing that trick. I know Parks could do them (did a ton of the DU in Shafted) but he was doing them w2w.
Old     (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-05-2009, 2:58 PM Reply   
If anybody can do it Corby can! You've got the build for it..

5 foot 5 and ripped!
Old     (captain_vilfo)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-05-2009, 4:54 PM Reply   
i know ive seen lyman and greenwood do a few of those in some videos before.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-05-2009, 6:09 PM Reply   
Henry,

I dont know about that. what vids?
Old     (lostkgb78)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-05-2009, 6:22 PM Reply   
10 years ago Darin said he would give a $1,000 bucks to any one that could do it the way he did.
Old     (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       01-05-2009, 8:10 PM Reply   
Check out DRIVE!! I'm almost 99% positive Gabe Lucas does one off the double up. It was insane! But with all the other hammers in that movie, i think it gets overlooked. it was insane!!
Old     (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-05-2009, 11:02 PM Reply   
$1,000 thats some motivation.

i personally would like to see someone bring back the double front
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       01-05-2009, 11:42 PM Reply   
Maybe that should be our next "bounty" trick!

And I'd like to see the Slowball again!!
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-06-2009, 5:48 AM Reply   
David-

That is a great idea!
Old     (vlxwakeboarder)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-06-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
BEN, I think that is Gabe's Front Mobe. He throws it on a really weird axis. Its not over the top like most people.
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-06-2009, 11:34 AM Reply   
Carl you are correct that is a crazy front mobe.
Old     (eas)      Join Date: Nov 2001       01-06-2009, 12:12 PM Reply   
I don't know how many people I've talked to that have mentioned that front mobe....like none other for sure.
Old     (the_bum)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-06-2009, 6:12 PM Reply   
$1000 bucks! I'm going to learn it tommorow!
Old     (jason_ssr)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-07-2009, 9:04 AM Reply   
Orbitals are awesome! I think it didnt get much love because trick skiiers do tricks over the rope. Darin was rockin these during the days wakeboarding was trying to separate itself from all things uniquely ski related.
Old    benj_t            01-07-2009, 1:51 PM Reply   
Wow that video is insane. I want to see Darin do a Vulcan off a double up. also Andy, Benny G does heelside off axis backside 540s in The Book and in The Butter Effect
Old     (aces6692)      Join Date: Nov 2006       01-07-2009, 3:58 PM Reply   
i think those are some of the sickest looking spins ive ever seen, my other favorite is where they spin with out the handle and then catch it right before they land, i forget the name of it can anyone help me out?
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-07-2009, 4:07 PM Reply   
osmosis spins....best ever
Old     (aces6692)      Join Date: Nov 2006       01-07-2009, 4:08 PM Reply   
thats itt, thanks man, that has got to be this best spin everrr
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-07-2009, 4:30 PM Reply   
there is that one guy who does like a whirly 900 but its part over head pass, a real handle pass, and osmosis.... i need help on who and the name of the trick, its amazing.
Old     (waterdork88)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-07-2009, 4:35 PM Reply   
i'm pretty sure its impossible to do an 900 with an ole, handlepass, and osmosis
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-07-2009, 4:38 PM Reply   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmhJ3PYAMR0
Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       01-07-2009, 4:39 PM Reply   
I was wrong, just an ole' and a osmisis
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-07-2009, 4:41 PM Reply   
it's actually matt sims' 009; osmosis 5 to ole 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmhJ3PYAMR0
Old     (wakex2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2008       01-07-2009, 5:33 PM Reply   
009 is a dope trick... got a few buddys who have rode w/ sims and they say he's real cool guy... i think he got picked up by malibu last summer if i heard correctly... hope to see more good things from him coming up
Old     (pc_sledge)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-08-2009, 12:13 PM Reply   
That video is AMAZING! Shapiro shreds.
Old     (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-08-2009, 12:31 PM Reply   
Osmosis to Ole! Sick!
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-08-2009, 12:56 PM Reply   
Riley-

is this the first time you have seen that?
Old     (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-08-2009, 1:09 PM Reply   
Yeah! I must have been living under a rock or something!

I've seen the Osmosis, I've seen the Ole, But never thought about the two together...
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-08-2009, 1:43 PM Reply   
that is a hammer for sure. That vid was posted a few years back now.
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-08-2009, 1:44 PM Reply   
not everyone lives on wakeworld like you, andy.























Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-08-2009, 1:48 PM Reply   
HAahahahahahaa,

Umali Dont you mean like US!!!!!
Old     (steezyshots)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-08-2009, 2:41 PM Reply   
Yeah I think he has you there, just looked at both your post counters and Joe you might as well be an owner of wakeworld with all your posts..
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-08-2009, 2:47 PM Reply   
2972 including this post to Umali's 14,358, I think the term winner, winner, chicken Dinner.
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-08-2009, 2:52 PM Reply   
no hablo ingles.
Old     (wakemikey)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-09-2009, 1:06 PM Reply   
I don't know I don't think i would really call it a style trick. True there is off axis board position and strength involved. I forget (and no utube at work) can he grab them at all?

I admit it is an impressive trick, but stylish?

For some reason it reminds me of the guys who can do a 360 while tossing the handle up and catching it again (no pass). While I admit they are not on the same level I guess I think they are both novelty tricks like many of wakeboardings other tricks fallen to the wayside.
Old    00wakesetter            01-09-2009, 1:14 PM Reply   
What is style?
Old     (wakex2wake)      Join Date: Apr 2008       01-09-2009, 1:57 PM Reply   
i would imagine an osmosis would be a little tricky to grab while looking for the handle on the first 540... stylish... i'm sure he'll figure out a way to throw a grab in there to make it more "stylish" when someone else does one... not saying the big guys couldn't or won't by any means... i'm just saying they haven't... pretty cool to be the only one to do something cool imo
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       01-09-2009, 2:14 PM Reply   
By WakeMikey (wakemikey) on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 1:06 pm:

Yeah Shaprio would grab them all the way threw the trick.
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-09-2009, 3:41 PM Reply   
SOB has a sweet OA Osmosis 5 that is grabbed all the way through the rotation. It was the first wakeworld vid I saw
of him from a years back. I'll try to find the link.
Old     (dirwoody)      Join Date: Apr 2003       01-09-2009, 3:42 PM Reply   
That just made me remember how much I miss his style. Raw power

Of everything he does(watched the orbital about 70 times and still cant' wrap my head around it), my favoriate are his HUGE S-bends
Old     (rmcronin)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-09-2009, 4:00 PM Reply   
That is the biggest orbital I've see him do. He usually grabs them the whole way through, check out Switch 22 and Shaft WakeMikey for some good versions of the trick. I usually think short riders don't show much style, but Darin has more style than every sub 5'7" rider combined. He's the man!!!
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-09-2009, 4:09 PM Reply   
Found the link of SOB's grabbed Osmosis. http://www.wakeworld.com/Galleries/GetImage.asp?GalleryID=178&ImageID=29
I have pretty much liked SOB ever since I first saw this footage.
On the 009, I think that trick is amazing. Grabbed or not, that trick is a hammer.
This is my favorite Shapiro video of late. http://wakeboardingmag.com/article/Features/Video-Darin-Shapiro-1000063658
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-09-2009, 4:12 PM Reply   
Just found this one on YouTube, I had seen it some time back, but this blew me away when I first saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcdHt36DRxk&feature=related
Old     (macanudo247)      Join Date: Apr 2006       01-09-2009, 4:29 PM Reply   
That grabbed Osmosis 5 is freaking SICK!!! super clean and stylie imo

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