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Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 6:20 PM Reply   
im looking for those bindings bolts that you screw into the board then cam lock down..ive seen them on a board but failed to see who made those cam lock bolts..who makes them? thank you
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 6:46 PM Reply   
The are the Liquid Force F.A.S.T system cams. The call them "Liquid Cams"

later, Clay
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       06-06-2005, 6:48 PM Reply   
Wasn't there some called Lokz or something. I think they went under or sold.
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       06-06-2005, 8:05 PM Reply   
Liquid Force has licensed the technology from Lokz, but I'm not sure if Lokz makes them any more. I know that Liquid uses the design, but makes them themselves. Anyway, you should be able to get a set from your Liquid Force dealer.
Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 8:16 PM Reply   
thank you..anyone know how long the screw is on the liquid cams? i need the screw to be at least 1" long to use with my NICE PSR1 Bindings....
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 8:22 PM Reply   
Just measured...3 1/3 centimeters of thread and the actual screw with the 2 supplied washers is just shy of 3/4". Hope this helped.

Clay
Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 8:34 PM Reply   
so the end of the screw to the washer is 3/4" long? ...argh i need it close to 1" long
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 8:37 PM Reply   
yes, the shank of the screw is a hair UNDER 3/4". I dont see what it has to be 1" long, you dont have to bottom the screws out. Now if the screws are too long then that would be a whole different story, but as long as you get at least 3 threads you should be good to go.

Clay
Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 8:46 PM Reply   
i tried to use a screw with the special counter sunk washer that was 3/4" long over all from end to washer..NICE PSR1 Bindings have a thick baseplate, exactly 1/2" thick..the Threads in my 2002 Hyperlite Project board dont start at the surface of the board maybe a good 1/8 inch below the surface of the board..what do you think?
Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 8:48 PM Reply   
is that washer that comes with the "liquid cams" Allumiunum and thick? could you use a thinner nylon washer instead? to expose more thread?
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-06-2005, 8:48 PM Reply   
dave, just curious, how did lf improve the technology? i still have a pair of lokz and compared them...exactly the same.
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 8:52 PM Reply   
it is two thin nylon washers, im sure you could get by with one BUT it isnt going to give the 1"
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 8:54 PM Reply   
Joe: BY "liscensing the technology" Im pretty sure he wasnt implying they improved on them (very simple design) They just bought the technology and put their name on it.
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       06-06-2005, 9:01 PM Reply   
I don't know if LF has changed them at all. I'm assuming they are the same basic design, but I don't know for a fact. I just know that they licensed the idea because they thought it was a good one.
Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 9:04 PM Reply   
im looking at a picture of the 2001 lokz and todays "liquid cams" they both look different..same design concept but the lokz have a trick bevelled alluminum washer..and they came in colors
Old     (dakid)      Join Date: Feb 2001       06-06-2005, 9:05 PM Reply   
dave, am i high (not really) or didn't your original post say that lf improved the technology?
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       06-06-2005, 9:10 PM Reply   
You would be high...but they still may have despite your inebriated state. :-)
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 9:24 PM Reply   
aluminum washer= .05$
Krylon= .97$

Old     (leykis1o1)      Join Date: May 2005       06-06-2005, 9:31 PM Reply   
are you being funny..no the lokz seamed to be annodized and even a different shape..the washer was machined and also annodized...anyways not sure if the "liquid cams" will work..does anyone know how thick the baseplate is on "liquid forces" bindings .. are they 1/2" thick then i think the "liquid cams" will work with my NICE PSR1's thank you
Old    wickedwake            06-06-2005, 9:36 PM Reply   
"are you being funny"

Most of the time I try....(gets the tape measure out again...) The baseplate on my 05 Transits are a hair under 1/2".

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