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Old    surfdad            05-19-2007, 7:15 PM Reply   
Bullet 4" fins, Comp X 2 3/8" fins and Lovett Pro 1.4" fin

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Old    surfdad            05-19-2007, 7:16 PM Reply   
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Old     (awl)      Join Date: Feb 2006       05-19-2007, 7:43 PM Reply   
Do you notice more drag with the larger fins?
Old    surfdad            05-19-2007, 8:05 PM Reply   
I always associate drag with slowing a board down. The deeper fins offer the bullet more drive and tends to keep it going straight. The Bullet has a single to double concave bottom, so deeper fins may impact other boards differently, although I've never noticed this.

I know that Sean has said the deeper fins available for the C5 boxes, (those fins have sort of a cupped foil - is the only way I can describe it) cause drag on the Walzers.
Old     (smedman)      Join Date: Feb 2006       05-20-2007, 7:23 PM Reply   
Nice airs James! looks biggest on the bullet. excellent!
Old     (awl)      Join Date: Feb 2006       05-21-2007, 1:06 PM Reply   
I would like to try some deeper fins on my Walzer. Am I limited to one brand for the C5 boxes.
Old    surfdad            05-21-2007, 1:42 PM Reply   
Yeah Matt, I think James got the most air on the Bullet - I'm not good with the picture editing tools, but I tried to "cut n paste" the Comp X next to the Bullet pic's - it seems that one is "closer" or something - anyway...side by side the bullet with the 4" fins gave James larger air.

Along, I don't know. I didn't even know that there was more than one size for that box. Have you tried giving the folks at Walzer a call, or possibly Sean at The Board Shop?

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Old     (awl)      Join Date: Feb 2006       05-21-2007, 2:57 PM Reply   
Sean, are you out there? Never got a reply to my PM.
Old     (caskimmer)      Join Date: Apr 2006       05-22-2007, 6:24 PM Reply   
that 1st air is so big. dang kids

alan-never got it (did you get any of mine?) but I did talk to a Futures rep yesterday and they are currently out of the 3 1/2". You might find them online but unfortunately they cost $80 for a set of 4. I'm also trying to get them made in 2 7/8" but that's going to take some time.
Old    surfdad            06-02-2007, 8:55 PM Reply   
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Old     (hawaj)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-03-2007, 1:51 AM Reply   
wow son is bigger and airs are bigger too! I only wish to do even one small jump ;-)
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       06-03-2007, 8:54 AM Reply   
whats the trick to getting air like that? is is alot of it the board? ive been trying on my phase 5 alot and i can get maybe a couple inches out but nothing very impressive :-(
Old     (crushing76)      Join Date: Feb 2007       06-03-2007, 10:16 PM Reply   
LETS SEE VIDEO!!!
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-04-2007, 12:24 AM Reply   
jeff your stoked it looks like you guys get to go out on the lake alot. i have only been out once since tulloch.
Old    surfdad            06-04-2007, 2:08 PM Reply   
Hey Johnny, yeah we're fiends :-) Now that James is out of school for summer, we'll go out twice a week. I think that it was JL that was telling me that you hadn't been out on the boat much at all before Tulloch - that's guts, hitting a contest to warm up for the season. :-)

C.R. can't post video here on WW, but I do believe there are some vid's of James on wakepics.com. Of course, JL has an extensive collection of videos at mobgroup.tv - I don't think he has any of James except from the Tulloch contest if that gets posted.

Entrust, if you've ever seen the older Shred Stixx display ads - Jerry describes the key to air being drive or speed.

I have seen two schools of thought on this. The one that James subscribes to and that Jerry talks about is speed up and into the lip. Then James tosses an ollie off the lip. Being able to ollie is paramount to huge air.

We were lucky enough to have the Inland crew on our boat before the Tulloch contest and their team rider Travis gets air a little different. He has a skate background and I swear 10 foot long legs. :-) He doesn't power up through the lip like James, Chase and Josh Sleigh do. He gets some speed, but mostly just drifts up the face and then does this HUGE ollie at the lip. Now, Travis is using the 4skim and there are pictures of him boosting pretty substantial air.

If you want to power up through the lip, then the phase 5 probably doesn't have enough drive. If you air like Travis, the drive isn't as important as having the ability to bring your legs WAY UP and to throw a huge ollie.
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-04-2007, 7:23 PM Reply   
It's all in the mind. Hope this pic uploaded.
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-04-2007, 7:35 PM Reply   
Upload Astronaut Capt. Tom Stapley
Old     (ktownrider)      Join Date: Oct 2006       06-05-2007, 12:42 AM Reply   
Jerry is that real??? that's ridiculous!
Old     (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       06-05-2007, 8:23 AM Reply   
A jet powered Ja Mako ?
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-05-2007, 8:37 AM Reply   
The Captain drinks a lot of "Tang"Upload
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-05-2007, 9:20 AM Reply   
So Chase Hazen drank some too!Upload
Old    4sher            06-05-2007, 9:55 AM Reply   
Here's one of Travis...Upload
Old    4sher            06-05-2007, 9:57 AM Reply   
Hey Jerry, were you guys using the Grinch, jetski or another boat to tow the riders into the wake?
Old    surfdad            06-05-2007, 10:13 AM Reply   
That's what Josh was talking about. :-)

http://www.mobgroup.tv/videos/grinching2.html

The Parker Grinch Surfing video is so sick, where those crazy guys LAUNCH into the wake :-)
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-05-2007, 10:44 AM Reply   
So then, Not to be out done, Josh drank 1/2 gallon of "Tang"Upload
Old     (bigshow)      Join Date: Feb 2005       06-05-2007, 3:09 PM Reply   
Jerry, is this the '07 version of the space race?
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-05-2007, 3:43 PM Reply   
Hay Ed, Just playing around. thought I'd 1 for 1 Jeff with the air pics. I'm still down 11 to 4 on this thread. But got a hundred more on file of many other riders. Stay tuned!!!!! Thanx again for the AR. lead.
Old    mobster            06-05-2007, 3:55 PM Reply   
Here are 2 more 1 is what the grinch was made for the other was what josh thought the grinch was made forUpload
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Old    surfdad            06-05-2007, 3:55 PM Reply   
I'm going to start airing that Noserider, then you'll be in trouble :-)
Old    mobster            06-05-2007, 3:55 PM Reply   
Here are 2 more 1 is what the grinch was made for the other was what josh thought the grinch was made for
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-05-2007, 6:30 PM Reply   
All Kidding aside, Here is a good example of what Jeff was talking about. The first half of an "ollie".Upload
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-05-2007, 6:59 PM Reply   
ya chase is the aireal master. for sure.
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-05-2007, 11:54 PM Reply   
yea jeff we got out a few times 3 or 4 prior to going to tulloch, haha truthfully i didnt even have a board of my own so i decided on a board just before my run in the contest, and rode a set of fins that i hadent ever rode in that board. came out good tho i just threw a stock run and i guess it worked out well. never really tried a shuvit before that eighter and i basicly landed on in the run which was cool. any way are there alot of contests around that arent hyped like tulloch and boardstock?
Old    mobster            06-06-2007, 12:52 AM Reply   
Posted the 1st tulloch comp clip more to come the masters is next
Old    surfdad            06-06-2007, 5:34 AM Reply   
Oh J.L. you are amazing in filming and editing. That was some great footage. Who is that incredibly talented and exceptionally handsome first rider? :-)

Folks if you haven't done so, do yourself a favor and checkout not only J.L. of the MOBgroup's handiwork, but also some of the most talented wakesurfers anywhere.

http://www.mobgroup.tv/videos/wakesurfing.html

Top link on the right.

If you want to see how various high end tricks are done, this is probably one of the best video's for that.

Superlative JL, as usual.
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-06-2007, 10:36 AM Reply   
As Jeff mentioned, A rider can get air with an Ollie only, but that results in little air time and low altitude. Here is an example of what a rider can do when one combines a good "Ollie" with good speed. Allows more hang time so a rider can go to the next level and do tricks while in the air as Chase is doing here, "180 Air". This year he is starting to land "360 Airs"...SometimesUpload
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       06-08-2007, 9:45 AM Reply   
Her is a good example, by Josh Sleigh, what can be accomplished with a little hang time.Upload
Old    surfdad            07-30-2007, 4:07 AM Reply   
The grab is a Roast Beef

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Old    mobster            07-30-2007, 7:03 AM Reply   
here is a 1 footerUpload
Old     (stixxmon)      Join Date: May 2006       07-30-2007, 3:40 PM Reply   
It's not "air" till you see clouds UNDRER the Stix.......................Just kiddingUpload
Old     (valsurfer)      Join Date: May 2006       07-30-2007, 9:36 PM Reply   
This is one of my favorites of Chase from last weeks photo shoot Big Air Time Upload

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Old    surfdad            08-04-2007, 5:31 PM Reply   
Photo's without the lense pointing up :-)

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Old     (kal_dude)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-23-2007, 10:58 PM Reply   
what kind of boats/ballast are you running for this????
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-30-2007, 9:20 PM Reply   
jerry fills chases boards with helium. thats all i can come up with to explain that airial assault hes handing the wakesurfing world. chaa chase. dude call me up we will surf the islanddds.
Old     (inland_surfer)      Join Date: Aug 2002       08-31-2007, 8:40 AM Reply   
Riders, Trenton, Trenton, Mark, Jeff, and Drew
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Old    surfdad            09-03-2007, 6:18 AM Reply   
It seems like we haven't been free riding in ages! Chasing trophies all summer. I think THIS is an aerial, right? :-)

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Old    surfdad            09-03-2007, 6:19 AM Reply   
Two others :-)

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Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-03-2007, 10:11 PM Reply   
james is gettin some air time now too. haha iv been to the lake 2 times since lake tulloch contest! i have to get back in there and get back up with all you guys.
Old    mobster            09-05-2007, 8:00 PM Reply   
Here is a shot of Johnny Stieg working on his shuvs from Nacimiento lake is low but glassUpload
Old    mobster            09-05-2007, 8:03 PM Reply   
Here is a side shot of the 24' wakesurfing mag boat with DJ jamesz boosting from our naci sessionUpload
Old    surfdad            09-05-2007, 8:12 PM Reply   
JL, does Mike run a fat sac tied to the grab rail and resting on the swim deck?
Old    mobster            09-05-2007, 8:41 PM Reply   
Thats our party ball keg
Old    surfdad            09-06-2007, 9:26 AM Reply   
Are you pulling my leg? A fat buddy filled with beer? Isn't that like 20 gallons? :-) or @ 9 cases? or @ 195 beers? :-) Too funny. Can someone convert all of that to the number of times an individual would have to pee per hour? :-)

This picture reminds me of a Karate demonstration: James will now attempt to CHOP through a 2" board using only the balls of his feet...in mid air. :-)

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Old    surfdad            09-09-2007, 6:54 PM Reply   
It's good to NOT be on the road! :-)

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Old    surfdad            09-09-2007, 6:58 PM Reply   
This oicture is interesting. If you'll notice the fins and compare them to the picture above. This translucent yellow fins are 2 3/8" deep. The same depth as the smallest C5 fins available at retail from Futures. However, these fit into a standard Futures box, rather than the C5 box.

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Old     (mbwakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-09-2007, 9:43 PM Reply   
Hey jeff,
is that a custom shred stixx board?
Old    surfdad            09-10-2007, 4:42 AM Reply   
Hey Alec,

Congrats on your podium at the worlds, btw.

This is a custom SS, Jerry is working with us trying to develop a board with...more acceleration. The instant drive you get when you pump.

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Old     (radrider)      Join Date: Nov 2006       09-10-2007, 6:48 PM Reply   
Ok this thread should officially be renamed "PICTURES OF JAMES WALKER!" jk.

There's a ton of surf-style air up here (as there should be, Chase gets sick hangtime), but i'd like to add a few skim airs to balance it out a little... i think there's like 1 or 2 so far from boards with only 1-2" fins (pix of Drew & Inland).

This is one of JAQ on her way up: Upload
I liked this one, still not huge air but it's a start:
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AND THIS... is the result of my 1st attempted "360 Air" ha, not even close.
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Old     (radrider)      Join Date: Nov 2006       09-10-2007, 6:51 PM Reply   
Look, even the Master's get some air... with a mute grab to boot!!



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Old     (mbwakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-10-2007, 7:28 PM Reply   
Jeff
thats cool i need to make a custom ss board to because i need some grab rails i think were going to talk to jerry about it next year.
Old    surfdad            09-15-2007, 8:04 PM Reply   
Jerry is the master, Alec!

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Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-15-2007, 8:22 PM Reply   
dang jeff you should make a trip south so i can go out with you! haha it would be my 4th trip of the year
Old    mobster            09-15-2007, 10:50 PM Reply   
Here's one of johnny Upload
Old    surfdad            09-16-2007, 6:32 AM Reply   
Johnny - you need to come up this way - talk J.L. and the MobGroup into filming up North and hitch a ride with them!

J.L. I can't believe that you and Josh and the entire Mob Group crew would torture poor Johnny like this! :-) What has that poor young man EVER done to deserve this punishment? I think the ONLY thing you can do to rectify this situation, is to give Johnny a ride north and film all day. :-)

(Johnny, I did my best :-) )
Old    mobster            09-16-2007, 7:24 AM Reply   
Johnny has video & photos from our last naci trip just waiting on both. Johnny kills it he is going to skool so it cuts down on the surfing , we will have 1 or 2 more film sessions this year He is close on landing the shuv plus his new shape boosts mad air The pics will be in the next issue of Wakesurfing mag .MoB group is upgrading cameras soon so 08 will be huge any one looking for some Sony VX2100's contact Mobgroup.tv you have seen the video these cams produce good deals on both
Old     (valsurfer)      Join Date: May 2006       09-16-2007, 11:52 AM Reply   
Whats up guys heres a photo of Alec Wood hes starting to get higher on his airs every time we go out.After we took Chase Hazen out on the boat this Summer Alecs riding has changed so much.Alec is just 15 so we will see more from himUpload
Old     (mbwakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2007       09-24-2007, 9:32 PM Reply   
Ha ha i wish i was getting as much air as chase and james!
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-24-2007, 11:59 PM Reply   
ha naw its all good guys, if any one is going up north though feel free to swing by and throw me in your car! iv been getting some good waves (in the ocean) when i can make time so as long as i still have that im golden. got attacked by some large unknown sea creature last night though, that was scarry.
Old    surfdad            09-29-2007, 6:58 PM Reply   
Sea Creature? Man...I am so thankful that the worse thing we have to deal with is some weeds.

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Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-29-2007, 10:09 PM Reply   
yea it was eigther a shark or a elephant seal. each of which are gnarly. there have been 4 seals pulled off the beaches in morro bay alive with shark wounds, and one found the day before i was hit in cambria 8 feet long with a huge bite out of it! haha not a scratch on me tho! good thing to cuz i finally get to go ride! a full weeks worth.
Old     (wakeskate)      Join Date: May 2006       09-30-2007, 12:07 AM Reply   
you dont need fins to do airs...

[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/wakeskatemike/1081464164_l.jpg[/IMG]
Old     (wakeskate)      Join Date: May 2006       09-30-2007, 12:08 AM Reply   
but.. i guess fins are kinda fun somtimes.. like when you in ohio...

[IMG]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/wakeskatemike/491467.jpg[/IMG]
Old     (wakeskate)      Join Date: May 2006       09-30-2007, 12:10 AM Reply   
and i dont know how to post pictures on here... so just use the link..
Old    surfdad            09-30-2007, 6:23 AM Reply   
Hey Mikey, is this pucture from the NWL Nationals behind the Avy? That's a sweet wake. Nice air, too.

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Old    surfdad            09-30-2007, 6:24 AM Reply   
Johnny, you're crazy! There is no way you'd ge me in the water all dressed up as what LOOKS like DINNER!!!!!!!!! :-)
Old     (bigshow)      Join Date: Feb 2005       09-30-2007, 7:21 AM Reply   
Don't need fins to do airs? Heck I need a jet pack!
Old     (austinday)      Join Date: Sep 2007       09-30-2007, 12:55 PM Reply   
Im not sure how to post these so Ill put a link, hey mikey where you get the pics from nationals?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e197/bandit78/IMG_4439.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e197/bandit78/IMG_4401.jpg
Old     (jstieg)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-30-2007, 12:57 PM Reply   
haha well if i never dressed up like dinner i wouldent have ever been a wakesurfer!
Old     (bigshow)      Join Date: Feb 2005       09-30-2007, 1:37 PM Reply   
Austin, I have a ton of pictures from Nationals. I'd be happy to make a CD and send it out.

I posted some day one pictures here: http://www.wakeboardmidwest.com/forumsthreaddefault.aspx?itemid=4652
Old    surfdad            09-30-2007, 4:19 PM Reply   
Who'd have thought that I would be the one to do the computer work for the carcinogen twins...hey...something just hit me. THEY both ride for Calibrated too! :-)

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