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Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 7:29 AM Reply   
Hey I think I am going to put a pair of these on my boat. http://www.skylonaudio.com/skylon/productload.asp?product=14
I am not a stereo guy so help me out. I am getting the boat from the factory with 2 Kenwood 720 watt 4ch amps. I am assuming one of these Amps is not really enough to power those speakers. What should I do? Get a bigger amp in place of one of the 720's to power the tower speaks? Suggestions. Thanks in advance to the stereo gurus.....
Old     (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       02-08-2006, 7:54 AM Reply   
Everyone raves about the PPI4125, if you can find one. What does skylon reccomend? I know Duane, NVS, sells zapco amps with his.
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 7:57 AM Reply   
What is the PPI4125? And are these pricey amps? Skylon recommended 900, but did not talk in enough detail on what.... I just don't want to spend a ton...
Thanks for the info
Old     (joe_788)      Join Date: Aug 2003       02-08-2006, 8:24 AM Reply   
For that kind of money, you could get a higher quality product, one that is manufactured right here in AMERICA.

http://www.wakeside.com/page/W/CTGY/nvs_wakeboard_tower_speaker
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 8:33 AM Reply   
thanks Joe... have heard good things about the NVS also, but not spending "that kind of money" on them......
Old     (jaubrey)      Join Date: Feb 2003       02-08-2006, 10:50 AM Reply   
Joe is that a kawasaki in your profile pic?!
Old     (billthom)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-08-2006, 11:52 AM Reply   
I am trying to figure out what speakers to get as well, so I was curious if you found the Skylons that much better sounding, or just don’t find the NVS worth the money?

$1629 for a set of the Rubicons vs. $1695 for a set of NVS Entity 808 puts them about even in price.

Both maybe overkill for me, so I was also thinking the Skylon 350’s but I don’t know about the look of them from the front. Are the cans all black on the Rubicons?
Old     (malibupilot)      Join Date: Nov 2005       02-08-2006, 12:10 PM Reply   
I would be curious too.... how do these compare with the NVS....addictions or even tyrants?
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 12:42 PM Reply   
Bill,
if you hover over the image on the websit you can see the rearview of the cans. They are black.
I know I have heard great things about the NVS, but I have a good friend with Skylon and have heard great things about them and have been happy with all my other skylon accessorries. That is why I am chosing to go that route. Just need to make sure I am powering it right. I have heard these speakers will blow out plenty of tunage....
Old     (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       02-08-2006, 1:00 PM Reply   
Diggs,

To answer your question, the PPI PCX4125 is made by Precision power and when bridged it delivers 500 Watts RMS to each unit. I use it for my Addictions and they are pretty sweet. I found it on Ebay for a very good deal. As a general rule, you can always get stereo equipment better and cheaper on your own than from the factory.

I have never heard the Sklyon Rubicon, or the Defcon for that matter. Is this to replace the Defcons? I can't imagine anything much better than the Addictions.
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 1:59 PM Reply   
talltigeguy,
Perfect. thanks... they recommend 450 per.
-If I go more than 450, say 500 do I risk blowing anything?
-How hot will that amp run since I run it in a compartment that gets a little warm. Any different than others?
-So could I order one kenwood 720 4 ch with the boat and run the sub and interior speakers with it and then do and aftermarket like the PPI PCX4125 for the tower speakers?
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       02-08-2006, 2:02 PM Reply   
are you getting a new boat?
Old     (acurtis_ttu)      Join Date: May 2004       02-08-2006, 2:16 PM Reply   
Diggs you should be fine wiht that amp, just adjust the gains accordingly. I've read from posts on here that the PPI4125 runs fairly cool.
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 2:16 PM Reply   
yeah... trying to keep up with you and keep skiers choice in business. 06 21V Black
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       02-08-2006, 2:58 PM Reply   
lol nice, so the 05 21v wasn't good enough?
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 3:05 PM Reply   
like i say... gotta keep up with you....
if i recall you just had an 05' and now an 06' too..... hopefully can pull it off every year....
Old     (joe_788)      Join Date: Aug 2003       02-08-2006, 3:29 PM Reply   
Jared, yes, that is certainly a Kawasaki in my profile pic. I own two of them. There's no American made competitor for any Japanese motocross bike.

Skylon is an American company that, as far as I can tell, moved their production to China to lower their costs without necessarily lowering the cost to the end user.

Old     (wkerat)      Join Date: Sep 2002       02-08-2006, 3:47 PM Reply   
One thing to watch with the rubicons is they are each 4 ohms, so you need a 4 channel you can bridge and get 450x2 or a 2 channel that puts out 450 x2 at 4 ohm. I ordered a planet audio amp for mine. I am going to run a pair of 350's and a single 450.
Old     (tyler97217)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-08-2006, 9:13 PM Reply   
Thanks for the help.
Wkerat... that will be pumping...
Old     (entrustclothing)      Join Date: Jul 2005       02-09-2006, 8:55 AM Reply   
actually the new boat is an 05 too :-( its brand new but was a left over, so i guess you still got one up on me :-(
Old     (buzz_grande)      Join Date: Mar 2004       02-09-2006, 10:01 AM Reply   
I checked out the Skylon Rubicons at the boat show, and talked to the guys a bunch. The new Rubicon line seems to be really nice. They are phasing out the Defcons, and replacing them with the Rubicons. The Defcons sound awesome, but on the down side, they are 2 ohms. I have the Def 4's and the smoke with my Zapco 750.2 amp. I was looking into going with the 5's, but they no longer make them. I am now looking at either the Rubicon 350's (comparable to the Def 4's), or maybe the 450's. I think they are going to be a great line.

With that being said, I would LOVE to be blasting some of the new NVS stuff. Who knows. When I can afford to drop some change, I am going to look hard at both (and hopefully be able to demo both). Could end up with either one.

Good luck. Both are awesome companies. As far as amps, my vote goes with Zapco.


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