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Old     (gator808)      Join Date: Jun 2014       09-09-2015, 1:38 PM Reply   
I am trying to keep my budget under 100k so a new G is out of the question. However if I could find a used G23 that was a 13 or 14 year model would it be worth it buying it used still if I could find one around 100 hours? Or would I be better off buying a new boat around that price? I mainly surf and wakeboard. About 50/50
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       09-09-2015, 2:07 PM Reply   
Better to have more hours actually. 100hrs per year is a great rate/yr. All the kinks will have been worked out & the boat should be dialed.
IMO Id rather buy a 1 year old used G with 80-100hrs, versus one with 20-30hrs.

There's actually a used 2014 on planet nautique that is FULLY LOADED with the 550 motor for 109K.
Old     (seth)      Join Date: Sep 2002       09-09-2015, 2:40 PM Reply   
Exactly what migs said. Way better off buying a used one from all these guys that can somehow buy new every year and let them take that initial off the lot hit!
Old     (gator808)      Join Date: Jun 2014       09-09-2015, 5:24 PM Reply   
That makes since...just don't know if a G23 is worth it when I can buy a new centurion fs33 for the same price.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-09-2015, 6:51 PM Reply   
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That makes since...just don't know if a G23 is worth it when I can buy a new centurion fs33 for the same price.

Depends on what u want to do. Also I have a feeling 3 yrs from now that centurion won't be the same price anymore, be worth less for sure
Old     (YYCBoarder)      Join Date: Apr 2013       09-10-2015, 8:56 AM Reply   
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That makes since...just don't know if a G23 is worth it when I can buy a new centurion fs33 for the same price.
It might be the same price up front but the depreciation going forward on a year old G will be less than on a new boat. Downside is that the second owner of a Nautique only gets warranty on parts.
Old     (all2matt)      Join Date: Apr 2015       09-10-2015, 9:14 AM Reply   
I just bought a 2014 G23 last month and was on the exact same track. The nice thing we ntoiced is yes you save between 25000-35000 but you let the other woner get all the bugs out so if anything was going to be wrong itll happen usually in the 1st 25 hrs. ours we bought had 25 hrs on it and juts got back from its 25 hr check up. Plus we got all his extended warranty that he purchased, extra bags, anchors, life jackets, upgraded subwoofer, extra prop, extra water pump impeller, and extra ballast pump impelllers. so we got all this bonus stuff that we would no have got just by taking 1 yr off the warranty.

so in my oppinion it worked out great for us to do it this way
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-23-2015, 10:16 AM Reply   
You wont find a G23 for under 100k with 100 hours. Not gonna happen. MAYBE a salt water boat with no trailer...
Old     (T_A)      Join Date: Feb 2013       09-23-2015, 11:36 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by superair502 View Post
You wont find a G23 for under 100k with 100 hours. Not gonna happen. MAYBE a salt water boat with no trailer...
http://www.buxtonmarine.com/web/used...exas/24233049/
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-23-2015, 11:55 AM Reply   
Stand corrected although by only like 10 dollars... If it were I though I would pay the extra for a 2014... the 2:1 trans is going to to resale way better and the fuel consumption is like literally half of the 2013s. Good luck you will enjoy.
Old     (timmyb)      Join Date: Apr 2007       09-23-2015, 12:02 PM Reply   
They actually had 3 of them for under $100k in that link. All with the 450hp motor though.
Old     (T_A)      Join Date: Feb 2013       09-23-2015, 12:24 PM Reply   
The others had like 275 hrs though
Old     (tjb1080)      Join Date: Jun 2010       09-23-2015, 1:02 PM Reply   
A used 2013 or 2014 G23 for under 100k is totally doable and the way to go for sure!
You dont need the 550. I ride a fully loaded G23 all the time with the 450 and it planes out no problem.
The 2:1 ratio transmission certainly helps.
The 550 requires super unleaded too and that can be a pain in the butt if you use a marina or if gas goes back up to $4/gallon.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-23-2015, 1:20 PM Reply   
Personally I would opt for the 2014 as mentioned with the 2:1 tranny. There is a very noticeable difference and IMO worth the extra $$ upping Ito. 14. However that puts you not to far off from a leftover 15 coming down the pipe soon. Why the 100hr bookmark. 200hrs would still be good as well. 100hrs a year is normal.
Old     (superair502)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-23-2015, 1:25 PM Reply   
yea don't hamstring yourself over a few hours... the years and use are what matter.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-23-2015, 5:29 PM Reply   
I don't think U'll have a issue finding a 14 g under 100k. I'd never pay over a 100k for a used boat! And on top of that 200hrs is high hours and the owner is gonna have to take that hit not me! Sorry but a 200hr 14g just cost the owner $5k in my opinion.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-23-2015, 6:16 PM Reply   
I would argue 200hrs are right in the wheelhouse for a 14. All of 2014 and 2015 is coming to an end. Puts you right around 200mark. I don't doubt you can find G's with less hours used , but 200hrs on a 14 at this point in time is not extremely high in places with year round riding. Hell I live in a place where we freeze for winter and I manage to put in solid 80 -100 a year. Use the bourses a bargaining chip but don't be scared they're too many


Of course that assumes the boat is well maintained and taken care of.
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-23-2015, 6:43 PM Reply   
Nice 2015 for under 100K http://knoxville.craigslist.org/bod/5233817775.html
Old     (beg4wake)      Join Date: Aug 2012       09-23-2015, 6:49 PM Reply   
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Yeah....That's def NOT a G23....Looks like a SCAM
Old     (99ProAir)      Join Date: May 2015       09-23-2015, 7:29 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by beg4wake View Post
Yeah....That's def NOT a G23....Looks like a SCAM
That's a SAN 230.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-23-2015, 7:35 PM Reply   
Sorry but 200hrs is high milage for a 14! That 200hr boats been put through the ringer and I ain't paying for someone else's fun times. Sorry but the owner let lots of people take sets behind that 100k plus boat and he better had been collecting alittle more than $10 a set because he's gonna have to eat it come trade time! Look on only inboards for 2014 boats, average hrs for 2014 boats is easily around 100hrs.
Old     (CHUCK_K)      Join Date: Aug 2015       09-23-2015, 8:26 PM Reply   
Now that the 2016's are out, do you guys think the 15's will decrease in price more?
Old     (CHUCK_K)      Join Date: Aug 2015       09-23-2015, 8:27 PM Reply   
Supposedly its a different boat from the prior years is what I'm getting at.
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-23-2015, 8:29 PM Reply   
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...-G23-102597995
Old     (OneCent)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-24-2015, 12:15 AM Reply   
200h is nothing and the hours don't say anything about how well maintained the boat is.
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-24-2015, 4:09 AM Reply   
What?!? 100hrs a season is "high mileage"???

I guess these boats are meant to be lift/garage queens...... Sorry, but 100hrs a season is nothing.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-24-2015, 5:07 AM Reply   
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What?!? 100hrs a season is "high mileage"???



I guess these boats are meant to be lift/garage queens...... Sorry, but 100hrs a season is nothing.

Yes 200hrs in a 2014 boat is high compared to most others out there. Sorry it is. I'm definitely not saying that the boat is all used up and broke down but odds are a person looking can find the exact same boat at closer to 100hrs that's all. And given the choice between exact same boats 1 being 100hrs use and 1 being 200hrs I and almost every other buying in the world is taking the 100 hr boat or expecting a nice discount on the 200 hr boat.

Sorry but hrs on your boat are deprecating its value. Why is this so hard to understand????
Old     (MICAH_HARPER)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-24-2015, 5:09 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Nordicron View Post
Sorry but 200hrs is high milage for a 14! That 200hr boats been put through the ringer and I ain't paying for someone else's fun times. Sorry but the owner let lots of people take sets behind that 100k plus boat and he better had been collecting alittle more than $10 a set because he's gonna have to eat it come trade time! Look on only inboards for 2014 boats, average hrs for 2014 boats is easily around 100hrs.
are you kidding me.....you do know that you buy these things to use them right. Been through the ringer...lol

my 2012 Tomcat has 550 hrs. If you aren't putting hrs on your boat then you are wasting your money
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-24-2015, 5:24 AM Reply   
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Yes 200hrs in a 2014 boat is high compared to most others out there. Sorry it is. I'm definitely not saying that the boat is all used up and broke down but odds are a person looking can find the exact same boat at closer to 100hrs that's all. And given the choice between exact same boats 1 being 100hrs use and 1 being 200hrs I and almost every other buying in the world is taking the 100 hr boat or expecting a nice discount on the 200 hr boat.

Sorry but hrs on your boat are deprecating its value. Why is this so hard to understand????
Don't think anybody said hours don't depreciate the value. You indicated that 100hrs per season is "running it through the ringer", which is laughable.
Old     (sppeders)      Join Date: Jul 2011       09-24-2015, 5:50 AM Reply   
Here is one for $78K if you take into account the exchange rate. (if his price is in Canada Dollars)

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...xcellent-shape
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-24-2015, 5:59 AM Reply   
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Don't think anybody said hours don't depreciate the value. You indicated that 100hrs per season is "running it through the ringer", which is laughable.

No it's not laughable at all. How do I know how many dubs that boat hit? How many full throttle runs across 4' white caps? How many full throttle full ballast starts? I can only assume those extra 100hrs put on that boat vs the boat with only a 100hrs has led twice as hard a life! I'm not saying don't use your boat just know those hrs aren't free.
Old     (Josh4mc)      Join Date: Aug 2015       09-24-2015, 7:26 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by sppeders View Post
Here is one for $78K if you take into account the exchange rate. (if his price is in Canada Dollars)

http://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/fo...xcellent-shape
He's asking $105 US or $137 Canadian which comes out to a little above $102 US.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-24-2015, 7:44 AM Reply   
http://www.onlyinboards.com/2013-Cor...gia-50473.aspx
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-24-2015, 7:44 AM Reply   
that was listed back in July, not sure if it is still for sale.
Old     (YYCBoarder)      Join Date: Apr 2013       09-24-2015, 7:50 AM Reply   
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He's asking $105 US or $137 Canadian which comes out to a little above $102 US.
IMO, this is the best price out there for a G. Almost new 2015 for just over $100K seems like an easy decision (as long as you don't mind bringing it across the boarder.)
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-24-2015, 7:58 AM Reply   
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No it's not laughable at all. How do I know how many dubs that boat hit? How many full throttle runs across 4' white caps? How many full throttle full ballast starts? I can only assume those extra 100hrs put on that boat vs the boat with only a 100hrs has led twice as hard a life! I'm not saying don't use your boat just know those hrs aren't free.
Pretty easy to check the ECM for that information - hrs at rpm run time. Shoot, nowadays I wonder with all the electronics if you could tell how many hours the ballast was filled, or hours at X rpm at X ballast.

It's all relative.
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-24-2015, 9:57 PM Reply   
2015 for $99k. http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...-G23-102597995
Old     (Shane10p)      Join Date: Jul 2013       09-24-2015, 10:13 PM Reply   
I had a buddy decide to go out of territory and bought a leftover 2014 G23 from Sun Country last year. He also decided to go with them due to pricing but has had a ton of issues with his trailer which looks to be the same one this ones sitting on. Said nothing but positive things about the dealer and boat. Now that he's 18 hours away and warranty issues are next to impossible to deal with since none of our local dealers sell this brand of trailer. Just food for thought when it comes to chasing deals out of your dealers territory.

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Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-25-2015, 5:08 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Nordicron View Post
No it's not laughable at all. How do I know how many dubs that boat hit? How many full throttle runs across 4' white caps? How many full throttle full ballast starts? I can only assume those extra 100hrs put on that boat vs the boat with only a 100hrs has led twice as hard a life! I'm not saying don't use your boat just know those hrs aren't free.
So high hours automatically means the boat was beat 2x as bad as a boat with half the hours. Ok, got it.

I must really trash mine then!! 140-150 hours a year! The thing barely runs when I am done with it!

But you know what? I get a new one every single year. I have never had one problem selling them either. They go up for sale in October, and they are gone in November. I have never had a problem selling them, and I have never lost more than 5k on first year depreciation. This is the 8th year in a row on this program. This year, I was approached to sell early. This season cost me nothing. Sure, if the price of new ones levels out, it would be hard to do this every year. Right now, though, it is gravy.

I hear the same thing every time....... "I looked all over, and yours was the only one that was completely flawless, and still in showroom condition"..... Or something to that effect. Even with 150 hours on them, my boats are in better condition than 95% of the others available with lower hours. Heck, 75% of these boats are treated like red headed step-children. Daddy buys them for the kids to pound on at the summer camp. 40-50 hours a year of pure abuse. More often than not, I find the high hour boats are owned by an enthusiast that LOVES his boat, and LOVES watersports. They are the ones that get meticulously cared for. (excluding tournament/school boats obviously)

Oh, and these boats are made to handle double ups and whitecaps. See a lot of hull failures do you??
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-25-2015, 5:16 AM Reply   
Fixable I'm in no way saying a higher hour boat is beat on more than a low hr boat. Nor am I saying these boats can't handle normal operations as designed. But they don't last forever either and thus they are equipped with meters to show how much they've been used. And I'm glad u've been able to flip your ride every year, good for u. Being this is your gig I'm sure u take care of your boats so u can maximize your sale. Keep it up! One question though why not keep it 2 yrs and then try and flip her with 400hrs?
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-25-2015, 5:18 AM Reply   
^Because at that point, I would probably take a 10k+ hit, so why bother? It's fun to do a new one every year, and if it doesn't cost me more, why not?
Old     (BurnMac42)      Join Date: May 2015       09-25-2015, 6:26 AM Reply   
Fixable I've gotta ask what's your entire plan on doing a new boat every year? Do you finance each year and then just cover the depreciation loss of ~$5k when you go to sell each year or did you pay cash 8 yrs ago and just eat the roughly ~5k in loss each year and chalk it up as $5k to buy a new boat every year?
Old     (davez71)      Join Date: Oct 2007       09-25-2015, 6:44 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Nordicron View Post
No it's not laughable at all. How do I know how many dubs that boat hit? How many full throttle runs across 4' white caps? How many full throttle full ballast starts? I can only assume those extra 100hrs put on that boat vs the boat with only a 100hrs has led twice as hard a life! I'm not saying don't use your boat just know those hrs aren't free.
I tend to agree with Fixable, I feel like some people use these boats differently. I usually put between 75-100 hours a year on my boats. This year I'm at 85 on my new X23. I would say that the boat has seen a 33/33/33 split between wake/surf/cruising. I don't think that this boat has been put through the ringer like you say boats do. What is your stance on people that pull tubers? does that decrease value by say 10K?

Like Fixable, I sold my 2012 X45 at the end of last year with 195 hrs on it and I had it for three summers. The guy that purchased the boat told me he had looked at 12 boats and some were still on the showroom and my boat with 195hrs was in better condition then all of those. Was my price right on the boat, Yes. Did I lose any money on the boat NO and that is a 2012 that EVERYONE thinks is a terrible year.

Personally, 100 hrs a year is nothing. I tend to worry about the boats that you see that are 5-6 yrs old and only have 125hrs. That a lot of sitting time and the boat just wasn't being used.

To each their own I guess.
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-25-2015, 7:39 AM Reply   
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Fixable I've gotta ask what's your entire plan on doing a new boat every year? Do you finance each year and then just cover the depreciation loss of ~$5k when you go to sell each year or did you pay cash 8 yrs ago and just eat the roughly ~5k in loss each year and chalk it up as $5k to buy a new boat every year?
This is how I worked it-
8 Years ago, I purchased the first boat with only 20% down. (15k Down, and borrowed about 62-64k). I took out a 5 year loan on the balance. The next year I sold that boat, and used my tax return for the depreciation difference, and a couple grand towards the upgrade budget. (Usually get back between 5-8k). I didn't borrow any more. I simply changed the collateral on the existing loan to the new boat. I repeated this same thing for the next 4 boats. I wasn't really able to "upgrade" or go any bigger. In fact, at one point, I jumped down in size, so that I could stay in budget. The fifth boat was the last one on the loan. I paid the loan off right around the time I sold it.

Ever since then (The last three years), I put $700.00 per month in a savings account. I use that $8400.00 + Tax return (usually around 14k total) to cover depreciation and cost increase on the new boat. With things working out like they have, I was able to jump up in size/model of boat. (Realistically, I have sort of gone up/down/up/down in size over the last 4 boats)

Right now, I am just getting into the most expensive boat I have owned. A G23. At this point, I wont be wanting to go up any further....... So, I am at the point of just saving my tax returns. It feels very good.....

Luckily, the state of VT allows tax credit on the boats I sold. I only have to pay tax on the Delta. Without that, I wouldn't be able to do this....

Last edited by Fixable; 09-25-2015 at 7:42 AM.
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-25-2015, 7:45 AM Reply   
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This is how I worked it-
8 Years ago, I purchased the first boat with only 20% down. (15k Down, and borrowed about 62-64k). I took out a 5 year loan on the balance. The next year I sold that boat, and used my tax return for the depreciation difference, and a couple grand towards the upgrade budget. (Usually get back between 5-8k). I didn't borrow any more. I simply changed the collateral on the existing loan to the new boat. I repeated this same thing for the next 4 boats. I wasn't really able to "upgrade" or go any bigger. In fact, at one point, I jumped down in size, so that I could stay in budget. The fifth boat was the last one on the loan. I paid the loan off right around the time I sold it.

Ever since then (The last three years), I put $700.00 per month in a savings account. I use that $8400.00 + Tax return (usually around 14k total) to cover depreciation and cost increase on the new boat. With things working out like they have, I was able to jump up in size/model of boat. (Realistically, I have sort of gone up/down/up/down in size over the last 4 boats)

Right now, I am just getting into the most expensive boat I have owned. A G23. At this point, I wont be wanting to go up any further....... So, I am at the point of just saving my tax returns. It feels very good.....

Luckily, the state of VT allows tax credit on the boats I sold. I only have to pay tax on the Delta. Without that, I wouldn't be able to do this....
Is your "borrowed" G red and white? Think I've seen it on 89 before. Where do you ride out of?
Old     (99ProAir)      Join Date: May 2015       09-25-2015, 9:28 AM Reply   
2013 G23 $95k. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/boa/5231485265.html
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-25-2015, 11:57 AM Reply   
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Is your "borrowed" G red and white? Think I've seen it on 89 before. Where do you ride out of?

Red flake and black. I can't think of a time I would have been on I89 with it. I live on Lake Bomoseen (Rutland/Castleton area). The borrowed G is going back on Monday. The new G23 should be arriving at the dealer today. Can't wait to get that '16 G23 on the water. It is also Red flake/black.

I see you are up in Montgomery center.......Feel free to take a drive down to Bomo and join us sometime!

Last edited by Fixable; 09-25-2015 at 12:00 PM.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       09-26-2015, 7:54 AM Reply   
http://www.onlyinboards.com/2013-Sup...gia-52408.aspx 2013 for 85k
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-26-2015, 11:33 AM Reply   
looks super well equipped for the $85k
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-26-2015, 12:27 PM Reply   
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looks super well equipped for the $85k

Yeah but those are way to low hours. Seals prob leaking and everything prob all dried and cracked... 😜
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-26-2015, 12:36 PM Reply   
Yea, your right but it doesn't matter. What I did when I bought my 2008 a couple years ago is paid to transfer the parts warranty and got a few boxes of replacement parts for free! Had to fight with Nautique a little bit, but they came around. If you pay to transfer parts warranty they can't give too much grief, before they rollover.
Old     (gator808)      Join Date: Jun 2014       09-28-2015, 3:41 PM Reply   
Hey guys, I took the plunge!!! We found a mint condition 2014 G23 with 86 hours. It fell into our budget as well!!! This boat is everything and more than I have ever imagined. Thanks for the input! Once I take delivery this week I will post some pics.
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       09-28-2015, 8:04 PM Reply   
the hours argument cracks me up!! I much rather have a high hour boat that was maintained than a low hour boat that sat around and collected dust. I have a nautique with 1710 hours and hasn't missed a beat. have fun with your 80 hour 4 year old boat. you will be at the service center soon!!!! only low hour boats break down, ill keep enjoying my high hour boat!
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-28-2015, 9:04 PM Reply   
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the hours argument cracks me up!! I much rather have a high hour boat that was maintained than a low hour boat that sat around and collected dust. I have a nautique with 1710 hours and hasn't missed a beat. have fun with your 80 hour 4 year old boat. you will be at the service center soon!!!! only low hour boats break down, ill keep enjoying my high hour boat!

I'll take an 80hr 4 yr old boat everyday all day! Let's see someone wants to sale u a 2010 San 210 with 80hrs great shape in fact it's almost perfect because well it's been garage stored and only has 80hrs! Vs identical boat but this one has 400hrs? Are u gonna pay the same amount? No your not! Don't be stupid!
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-29-2015, 9:45 AM Reply   
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I'll take an 80hr 4 yr old boat everyday all day! Let's see someone wants to sale u a 2010 San 210 with 80hrs great shape in fact it's almost perfect because well it's been garage stored and only has 80hrs! Vs identical boat but this one has 400hrs? Are u gonna pay the same amount? No your not! Don't be stupid!
What if there is a warranty problem that consistently happens at 100 hrs? That 80hr boat is out of the warranty period whereas the 400hr boat had the warranty performed at 95 hrs for free, and got put through it's paces, is fully broken in in a timely fashion, has had the oil changed at proper intervals, not once a year or less etc...

You won't pay the same amount, but I wouldn't pay more for a 4 yr old boat with 80 hrs... Numbers should be pretty close in my opinion... say 57 for the 400 hr and 60 for the 80 hr??
Old     (illini88)      Join Date: Oct 2007       09-29-2015, 5:34 PM Reply   
While we we consistently see posts on this site about people preferring higher hours to extremely low hours, it doesn't seem like we see higher hour boats consistently selling for more money than lower hour boats, so that must not be the opinion of the market as a whole. Personally, I'd take the low hour boat over the high hour boat every day, but I'm not sure that holds true in all markets. I'm in the midwest, where the boat is going to sit 6 months per year. That being said, it's damn cold during a significant portion of the year when my boat sits, and there is no salt water. Letting a boat sit on the coast in Florida, on the other hand would concern me.
Old     (kenv)      Join Date: May 2002       09-29-2015, 8:36 PM Reply   
Hours arguments again...lol. All parts of the country are different and all owners are different. But listen to this quick story. I bought a 2010 226 in Feb of 2010....put about 30 hours on it before summer ended. Brother has a boat...dad has a boat....and friends have boats. We DON'T always use mine. My home lake literally dried up and was unusable at the start of 2011. Took the boat to a few surrounding lakes..anywhere from 50 miles to 100 + miles one way for some weekend getaways. I traded the 226 in this year...boat show for my 2015 G21. Took delivery of the G in March. The lake filled back up in a weekend on Memorial Day after being 90 feet low for 4 years. Boom....G hit the water in mid June. Here's the kicker.....When I traded in the 226....it had 42 hours in 5 years. I put 45 hours on the G21 in a month and a half. I did change the impeller out at the dealer after 2 1/2 years on the 226...just to be safe. So things happen people....some move....some have babies/club volleyball on weekends....some lose their home lake..lol......some ski...float float float...ski. Who cares what hours are on what boat. If you are buying one and YOU feel it has too many hours..or too few hours...don't buy that boat. Find another boat.
Old     (beg4wake)      Join Date: Aug 2012       09-30-2015, 7:16 AM Reply   
Yes...the Hours argument is TOTALLY irrelevant!! Whether a boat has 50 hours or 500 hours, it all depends on how that boat has been maintained!! To elaborate on a point made above, I would take a WELL MAINTAINED high hour boat over a identical boat with low hours that looks like it hasn't been too well cared for. Either way (if it's not brand new), I'm going to get in the boat and crawl all around it to see how well maintained a boat is! My old boat (2008 XStar) is currently sitting at a Nautique Dealership being sold on consignment. There is also a 2013 G23 there being sold as well. The dealer himself (who worked at PCM for 10 years, building and maintaining engines, before becoming a Nautique dealer) told me that my boat with 633 hours will likely sell faster than the 2013 G23 with only 63 hours simply because my boat looks like and has been well maintained whereas the G has rub marks all over the hull, dirty/stained interior, etc. Most of the time, if somebody is simply arguing that lower hours are always better than higher hours, then that person most likely doesn't perform any work on their own boat. Probably keeps it at a marina to be serviced and pulled in and out of the water. My boat had high hours, but I changed the oil myself regularly, the transmission fluid at expected intervals, kept the boat clean, never beached it, avoided tying off when I could, no shoes in the boat, cleaned and winterized every year, changed and maintained pump impellers, etc. If you can do such things, then you know what to look for when buying a used boat.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-30-2015, 4:07 PM Reply   
Just think Beg if your old star only had 400hrs on it would probably be worth about $2k more! How is this so complicated?
Old     (beg4wake)      Join Date: Aug 2012       10-01-2015, 6:32 AM Reply   
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Just think Beg if your old star only had 400hrs on it would probably be worth about $2k more! How is this so complicated?
Well no sh*t a boat with less hours will BOOK for more than one with higher hours...and that's because these days most boat owners don't work on their own boats, they just buy, use and abuse, therefore, generally, hours converts over to wear and tear...but unlike a car with milage...hours on a boat doesn't always compute to abuse, strain, or damage. How many of those hours were spent idling?? How well did the previous owner take care of it?? Like I said, MOST buyers will prefer a boat with less hours because that is what the general consensus tells them to do. But a REAL boat owner knows that it is not always the hours that they should be concerned with. I don't care what my boat is worth ON PAPER. I know what my boat is worth in person. I guarantee I can find about 10 boats, same year and model as mine, with less hours, and put them all on the same lot as mine, and mine would still sell before almost all (if not all) of them.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       10-01-2015, 7:30 AM Reply   
Beg I'm glad u agree with me. Thats all I've been saying all along. When and if the time comes for me to buy another boat I will be shopping for the low hr garage queen boat that is also in supremely good shape!
And u sir enjoy that new G u have coming! I'm jealous!
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-03-2015, 8:02 AM Reply   
2013 G23 just sold on OIB for 80k - under 100 hours.

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