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Old     (501s)      Join Date: Feb 2010       10-06-2019, 2:40 PM Reply   
Just saw Nautique released a new boat, thebG23 Paragonvand I came over to WW and there wasn’t even a thread yet. Anyone have any more info? I heard in Canada it will be in the $300k price range.
Old     (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       10-06-2019, 4:21 PM Reply   
US MSRP $265K. Does look amazing, and I'm sure it will be. But what da fuq?!

Love their old ltd edition Paragon, super classy.
Old     (Squamer)      Join Date: Oct 2015       10-06-2019, 11:15 PM Reply   
265K..... Jesus
Old     (corerider)      Join Date: May 2008       10-07-2019, 1:59 AM Reply   
I could almost justify the high price IF it was basically a loaded boat with few or no options, but it has nearly as many options as a typical G23! You can't even get the Phender Pro standard!!! Overall my first impressions are it's a good looking redesign of the aesthetic aspects of the hull, but it also gives a hat tip to the Pavati for sure. All the flat panels and angles included even on the tower and speakers look very familiar. I'm curios to know how it got 1500# heavier in dry weight, but the ballast system got 600# lighter!?!

Word is they will build 49 for 2020... I don't see that happening, much less that many being sold. The market for this boat is VERY small IMHO and let's face it... The original Paragon is so sought after because of it's VERY limited production AND the fact it had real wood built into the aesthetics!
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-07-2019, 2:30 AM Reply   
When something is priced crazy high my dad always says, "Not bad for half the price. Too bad, it's not half the price."

P.s. It has the same steering wheel as my 2014. Wonder how they decide what to upgrade and what not to...
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Massachusetts       10-07-2019, 4:22 AM Reply   
$265k??? That's unnecessary.
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-07-2019, 7:10 AM Reply   
So you’re saying I can buy 3 of these for the price of one paragon?
Is the Paragon 3 times the boat at the same length? Doubt it.
https://www.onlyinboards.com/2013-Su...on-101059.aspx
Old     (andy_nintzel)      Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Minnesnowda       10-07-2019, 7:46 AM Reply   
That Telescoping tower is brilliant. Other than that I dont get the price.
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Massachusetts       10-07-2019, 8:43 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by rexlex01 View Post
So you’re saying I can buy 3 of these for the price of one paragon?
Is the Paragon 3 times the boat at the same length? Doubt it.
https://www.onlyinboards.com/2013-Su...on-101059.aspx
AGREED!!!!! Never buy a new boat again. I could buy a 2 bedroom house w/ an acre of land for that price.
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       10-07-2019, 8:45 AM Reply   
Whatever the price, the boat is bad a**. I think the reference to the 280k Pavati makes the most sense. Some people just have crazy amounts of money to spend and want the best. I would much rather have this with it's history, proven manufacturing, etc than a Pavati.
Old     (tampawake)      Join Date: Mar 2008       10-07-2019, 9:08 AM Reply   
Nautique MC Bu Tige etc can all F off. Sorry yeah I am a hater lololl
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       10-07-2019, 9:50 AM Reply   
Nobody talked about it on here but the new M240 Malibu just released is 270K


They have all lost their minds.
Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       10-08-2019, 3:20 AM Reply   
All you have to do is wait until the babyboomers are all on their death beds. Boats, classic cars, motorcycles will all be CHEAP!
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-08-2019, 3:52 AM Reply   
You have to respect these boats for what they are. They are over the top. It is a testing ground for new technology that will trickle its way down into the everyday models. Only a few of these boats will actually be purchased by the guy that has to have the biggest and baddest out there, but we will see a lot of these changes in the G23 over the next few years.

Same story with Malibu's super boat, the M240. It is not the boat for the everyday wakeboarder. Very few wakeboarders will ever even get to ride behind one, but their is a guy out there with money to burn and he is funding experimentation by the engineers.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       10-08-2019, 4:56 AM Reply   
holy ****! does it come with a stripper?
Old     (srock)      Join Date: Mar 2002       10-08-2019, 7:42 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by denverd1 View Post
holy ****! does it come with a stripper?
At that price it's no longer called a stripper.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       10-08-2019, 8:13 AM Reply   
The guy who just bought a 160k G23 is going WHAT!!!! My boat is now a Entry level Nautique. LOL LOL LOL

That said a Guy on my lake has a Pavati. In fact he has had 2 now. IMO I would Way rather have this then a Pavati any day. If only for the fact that this Paragon can be taken to a dealer 1 hr away and have any and all warranty work completed.

I always thought their was a Market for Ultra Premium brand VERSIONS of the Big 3's boats. BMW has "M", Benze has "AMG", Ford "SVT", Dodge "SRT", so it makes sense to have a off shoot,

In the past Nautique has done specialty versions Example the "Beyerly eddition 210" pretty much the same old 210 with a sticker kit on it Woooo Hoo> Its nice to see a step up
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-09-2019, 4:03 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by jonblarc7 View Post
Nobody talked about it on here but the new M240 Malibu just released is 270K


They have all lost their minds.
At least that price on the Malibu M240 is for a loaded boat with a trailer.

If you load up the paragon G23, and put a trailer under it, the MSRP climbs all the way up to $315-$320k
Old     (sandm01)      Join Date: May 2010       10-09-2019, 6:07 AM Reply   
people spending 260k on a wakeboat toy are not going to balk if the price jumps to 310. I bet these are cash transactions for the dealer.

rumors on the moomba forum are that half sold in the first hour of release. dealers should have had the inside track on these a while ago and a good sales team have already scoured their clients that truly can put this boat in their garage and had buyers lined up already.
Old     (wombat2wombat)      Join Date: Sep 2018       10-09-2019, 11:01 AM Reply   
Does anyone remember a few years ago when owning a 100k boat was absurd but now it's the norm? Good times good times
Old     (Squamer)      Join Date: Oct 2015       10-09-2019, 10:43 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by wombat2wombat View Post
Does anyone remember a few years ago when owning a 100k boat was absurd but now it's the norm? Good times good times
haha yes, in 2013 my Centurion MSRP was 101k fully loaded and I thought that was outrageous. Now I cant even get into a 3 year old used model!
Old     (wombat2wombat)      Join Date: Sep 2018       10-10-2019, 3:05 AM Reply   
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haha yes, in 2013 my Centurion MSRP was 101k fully loaded and I thought that was outrageous. Now I cant even get into a 3 year old used model!
That's what has me on the fence about upgrading. I want to but the prices getting stoopid
Old     (all2matt)      Join Date: Apr 2015       10-25-2019, 2:54 PM Reply   
Prices are getting STOOPID or just SLIGHTLY STOOPID?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       10-25-2019, 3:59 PM Reply   
Saw them in concert 2 years ago. Good show.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-26-2019, 6:09 PM Reply   
People crying about the M240 and paragon existing is ridiculous. It would be like complaining that a Lamborghini exists. It is not a daily driver or a ride for the everyday man. They are purposely over the top. They are a test of engineering departments. For less than 80k you can have a brand new 2020 boat that will absolutely clear a path between you and a pro tour win. These are luxury machines where new tech can be tested that will trickle down into the daily drivers.
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Massachusetts       10-29-2019, 1:03 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by all2matt View Post
Prices are getting STOOPID or just SLIGHTLY STOOPID?
LOVE that band!
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       10-29-2019, 7:42 AM Reply   
No one is crying...it’s just The G23 was already a Lamborghini without a folding tower minus $100k. Do the math.

Last edited by rexlex01; 10-29-2019 at 7:45 AM.
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       10-29-2019, 9:03 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by rexlex01 View Post
No one is crying...it’s just The G23 was already a Lamborghini without a folding tower minus $100k. Do the math.
Compare the dry weights. 7,400lbs vs 5,900lbs. They aren't the same boat.

$169,000 is the G23 with the 409 engine. The Paragon is standard with the 575 engine.

Personally, I don't see either model as a good value. But you could quickly tally up the $100k in the differences.

Last edited by skiboarder; 10-29-2019 at 9:10 AM.
Old     (Fixable)      Join Date: Oct 2012       10-30-2019, 12:51 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiboarder View Post
Compare the dry weights. 7,400lbs vs 5,900lbs. They aren't the same boat.

$169,000 is the G23 with the 409 engine. The Paragon is standard with the 575 engine.

Personally, I don't see either model as a good value. But you could quickly tally up the $100k in the differences.
G23 with added options to make it equipped the same as a standard Paragon brings the MSRP up to about 193k. (XR7, Studio Elite, Strapless racks, 4x tower speakers, enhanced courtesy lighting, and a couple other small options).

That leaves a price difference of 72k. That is a huge difference for what you get...….

The weight difference thing is laughable. They are purposefully making it heavier, to minimize the effect of the upcoming ballast limits/regulation a lot of us are going to see. You will see this happening a lot on future redesigns. It's not necessarily a good thing, and the Paragon is very lethargic when empty, compared to the G23. You notice the heft.....

Ridiculously cool boat though, and some buyers will just decide they need it, and don't care about the price difference.

The choice is no different than deciding to buy a G23 over a Moomba Max.
Old     (99Bison)      Join Date: Sep 2012       11-06-2019, 8:02 AM Reply   
Forgot the power tower for 2020, that’s not standard in g - so that’s another 10k guessing msrp, steer assist (if standard on paragon) another 10k.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       11-06-2019, 11:45 AM Reply   
The very same people HERE complained about wanting a “Budget wakeboard boat” then the Wake Tractor (heyday) came out and the very same Bitches complained it was ULGY or Cost to much. Let’s face it if you can barely afford a 99 Direct Drive, why are u upset at the cost of a $260k boat. Do you get mad at the prices of more expensive Homes in a better hood then you? We get it you can’t afford it or you don’t see the value. Move on enjoy your set up “your killing it” for a fraction of the price your the man

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