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Old     (jmusser)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-15-2009, 9:08 PM Reply   
Found what I think is a good deal for a 06 X2, with less than 100 hours for $37,000. It has all the goodies, but the only problem is that it has an RTP instead of the MCX. My wake boarding skills are not that great and will not be adding that much additional weight, so do you think having a RTP is a show stopper?
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-15-2009, 9:15 PM Reply   
The RTP is fine... keep in mind its only a 20' boat. I've spent a lot of time in an X2 with the RTP engine and it's plenty...
Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-15-2009, 10:05 PM Reply   
you can always put a different prop on it. it can get you out of the water faster but you might loose top end. thats ok sense its not a speed boat. btw. thats a great price man.

(Message edited by Ponte_06_x2 on January 15, 2009)
Old     (driving)      Join Date: Jan 2003       01-16-2009, 4:33 AM Reply   
Like Cal said it is only a 20' boat and it handles really well. The RTP will definitely do the job.
Old     (insuranceman)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-16-2009, 6:20 AM Reply   
i have a 07 with the rtp and run a additional 1200lbs in ballast and have no problems with getting it on plane.

make sure you upgrade the prop and you will be fine.

oh and that is a smoking deal.
Old     (snowboardcorey)      Join Date: Jan 2004       01-16-2009, 7:39 AM Reply   
The RTP-1 is an awesome motor, off the line it s pretty much the same as the MCX. The RTP-1 has more tourqe than the 01' 310 hp and likely more than the 01' 330 hp engine thanks to a new injection system.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-16-2009, 7:44 AM Reply   
Great Deal. I have had an 06 with an rtp and an 07 x2 with the mcx. There is no noticable difference. The prop can be changed to give ya some more holeshot-Acme 1285 for example. Do it, you will not regret it.
Old     (shawnk)      Join Date: Jan 2005       01-16-2009, 10:48 AM Reply   
RTP-1 is a great motor, but resale will kill you.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-16-2009, 1:48 PM Reply   
Resale will not kill you. Most MC dealers are ordering all x2's with rtp's. Everyone one here said they are fine and they are people who know and potential boat buyers. Except for maybe Shawn.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-16-2009, 2:16 PM Reply   
I agree with Matt. 95% of the people you would be selling the boat to couldn't give 2 craps what engine is in it as long as it performs ok with stock ballast and is fuel injected. I feel sorry for the person who got an X2 with the upgraded motor only because they thought it would help resale. If you are going to slam the boat and actually use the extra power then OK, but just for resale it doesn't matter at all.
Old     (shawnk)      Join Date: Jan 2005       01-16-2009, 3:36 PM Reply   
You are all correct. I guess my vast ignorance of MC's is apparent.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-16-2009, 4:00 PM Reply   
We'll forgive you this time.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-16-2009, 4:06 PM Reply   
Shawn, that was not a cut on you. My point was you are no longer a x2 buyer. You have moved up.
Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-16-2009, 5:19 PM Reply   
look. the rtp is good but the mcx is BETTER. its a better motor and it does help with resale. THEIRS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-16-2009, 6:40 PM Reply   
That is actually not an accurate statment as the mcx and rtp displace the same C.I. I will agree that the MCX is nice to look at and at one time the rtp did not have cats where the mcx did. I liked that for wakesurfing etc. They now both have it.
Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-17-2009, 9:43 AM Reply   
matt. i thought the rtp was a 310 and the mcx was a 350. i could be wrong. i drove both the 04 x 2 with a 310 rtp and a 05 x2 with the mcx and the 05 with the mcx was a bit better.
Old     (wake_pop)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-17-2009, 10:00 AM Reply   
I ran the RTP in a 205V with 2000# of ballast and typically 4+ people in the boat at Denver elevation of over 5200' with no problems. I wouldn't shy away from it.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-17-2009, 10:01 AM Reply   
ponte, that is HP not Displacement.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-17-2009, 10:12 AM Reply   
The mcx uses different engine tuning software along with a revised intake to make the additional horsepower. For boarders that live at 24 mph for the most part that additional power will never be felt or utilized. In a prostar for example where speed is needed the upgrade is valid. For the extra $2500 it is really not needed. If the rtp were as "dressy" as the mcx I believe this conversation would happen less.
Old     (snowboardcorey)      Join Date: Jan 2004       01-17-2009, 10:48 AM Reply   
I'm not 100% sure but I believe a 2004 310 hp would still be a throttle body injection system where as an 05 (I think) and newer would run a different injection system.

At the end of the day you need to drive the boat and see if it works for you. Personally I would take an X-2 with an RTP-1 any day esspecially if it were propped with a 14.25 x 14.5 prop.
Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-17-2009, 11:47 AM Reply   
what im trying to say is that the mcx is cool because if you need more its their for you but 37 grand for a x2 with a rtp is a smoking deal. id say go for it.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-17-2009, 1:07 PM Reply   
Ponte, I fully agree with you there. Smoking deal.
Old     (jcush313)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-19-2009, 7:46 AM Reply   
have fun with the resale! i'm thinkin that will be an issue for sure! why not spend the extra thousand on an mcx and have a great motor with excellent resale? what do i know though im friends with skeeler?
Old     (h2oboy)      Join Date: Feb 2008       01-20-2009, 8:51 PM Reply   
$37,000.00 / 06 X2 RTP ??? Take it and run !!
I'm not sure about "most dealers" but at the end of my season the X-2's with the MCX's are gone and the RTP's are still in stock !
Old     (joshbuzz)      Join Date: Sep 2007       01-20-2009, 11:03 PM Reply   
If Skeeler doesn't know what he's talking about, I'll go outside and shoot myself in the foot right now.
Old     (shawnk)      Join Date: Jan 2005       01-21-2009, 7:52 AM Reply   
Again guys, just to confirm where I stand. The rtp is a great engine. Going to get the job done in most cases. Just in my experience of selling my last 3 MC's. The second or third question out of the buyer's mouth is, "What engine does it have?" Especially, if it is not a very well informed buyer or they some how feel their manhood is at stake by going with a "smaller" engine. I don't know. I guess the same reason people have to have 24's", rather than 20's".
Again, great price on the boat. Have you bought it yet?
Old     (jmusser)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-21-2009, 6:33 PM Reply   
Gave him $500 to hold it until this weekend when we are going to meet up and take to the lake. It is in excellent shape and if it runs like looks I'll be giving him the cash. The best part is he agreed to take 35,000 for it. Hate to part with the 01 xstar but I can't pass up the deal.
Old     (brucemac)      Join Date: Dec 2005       01-21-2009, 6:44 PM Reply   
wow, that's a crazy deal. good luck and let us know!
Old     (shawnk)      Join Date: Jan 2005       01-26-2009, 8:30 AM Reply   
Well, how did the deal work out?
Old     (jcush313)      Join Date: Jun 2008       01-29-2009, 6:44 AM Reply   
did you get the boat?
Old     (jmusser)      Join Date: Jul 2004       01-31-2009, 9:20 PM Reply   
Pick it up today. It performed just like a 100 hour boat should. The RTP felt strong enough with the standard ballast and I will not be slamming like like the majority people on WW. If I was buying new I would probably go with the MCX for resale and manhood reasons, but for the price I'm more than satisfied with the performance of the RTP.I think The biggest difference in performance to my old X Star was not out of the hole performance but that the X2 feels like a heavier boat (which it is)and does not handle as nimble as the 01 XStar. Thanks for help with my purchase.
Old     (brucemac)      Join Date: Dec 2005       02-01-2009, 7:31 AM Reply   
congrats! well let's see some pics! $35K for a 100 hour X-2, that's nuts.

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