easiest small wake invert

(nowake) · (nowake) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 08-30-2007, 5:59 PM

What would you all recommend as a first invert if all I've got is a small wake? I hear a tantrum is normally one of the easiest, does that still hold true for a small wake? My boat (Whaler 17') is under 2000# fully loaded with all my friends so my wake isn't a whole lot bigger than a jet ski.

(bbking) · (bbking) **Join Date: Dec 2006** 08-30-2007, 6:12 PM

me and my friend both have i/o's... he's going for a backroll and i'm going for a raley...

i'd say a backroll...he's gotten really close, but your wake sounds smaller than our by a little bit

(wakemandan) · (wakemandan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-30-2007, 7:37 PM

Ive thrown a backroll on a pretty small boat. Keep the handle really close and bend you knees :-)

(mobius67) · (mobius67) **Join Date: May 2007** 08-30-2007, 7:43 PM

Backrolls are easier than tantrums for me in general, whether its a small wake or large one. You just gotta work a little harder for the smaller wakes.

(rio_sanger) · (rio_sanger) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 08-30-2007, 7:52 PM

My sons were throwing tantrums behind our old I/O with no tower or ballast, for some reason they made it look easy without much air.

(nowake) · (nowake) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 08-31-2007, 3:40 AM

Thanks for the idea, sounds like back roll it is. Any tips on how to pull off a back roll are welcome too. :-)

(wkbdboi) · (wkbdboi) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 08-31-2007, 4:15 AM

you need a little bit of wake for a tantrum to kick you up, but for a backroll you do all of the work yourself by loading the line. so if it is a wake problem I say go for a backroll.

(malibuboarder75)

Tantrums are easier to do on small wakes because of the trip-flip effect. Backroll's require you to cut through the whole wake, so the smaller the wake the harder.

(big_xstar) · (big_xstar) **Join Date: Nov 2004** 08-31-2007, 7:54 AM

Backroll would be the trick to try.
You can do rolls in the flats with no wake at all.
So it proves its all technique.
Load the line and edge all the way thru the wake.
its all about line tension and standing tall

(nowake) · (nowake) **Join Date: Jul 2007** 08-31-2007, 4:11 PM

I would love to hear how to backroll in the flats. Is there a special trick to it?

(brad63) · (brad63) **Join Date: Jun 2006** 08-31-2007, 5:26 PM

Ive got an inboard with no tower and the flip i'm trying first is just a toeside front flip

(big_xstar) · (big_xstar) **Join Date: Nov 2004** 08-31-2007, 5:27 PM

Matt..just just look at the cable park riders.
Same concept.
No wakes, just lots of load on the line and edge..