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Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-08-2005, 11:54 AM Reply   
I have been looking at these. Do any you have any experience with them or heard them. Any opinions?

Old     (actiondcpd)      Join Date: Apr 2003       02-08-2005, 12:31 PM Reply   
My buddy has a pair of those and they sound awesome behind his VLX.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-08-2005, 1:42 PM Reply   
I found these for 699.00. Should I buy?
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-08-2005, 2:11 PM Reply   
I have been talking to Bill at Monster Tower about his new Bullet speakers coming out and was waiting on those but ran across this at Wakeside.com. Let me know what you think.
Old     (abundiga909)      Join Date: Jan 2005       02-08-2005, 2:24 PM Reply   
Great speakers, no question.

I haven't really had much experience behind other speakers, but there is not one complaint with these. Sound quality is always great, never gets unclear at all, gets real loud, looks real cool, etc... We have a pair, but are thinking of adding another pair of single fusions--just for more volume.

Like I said, great speakers.

(Message edited by abundiga909 on February 08, 2005)
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-08-2005, 3:23 PM Reply   
Lance:

PM me and I can give you a keyword that will get you another 10 percent off.

I got them for under 600.
Old    hershell            02-08-2005, 5:59 PM Reply   
I ordered a pair from wakeside last week and they still haven't been shipped. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow and see whats up.
Old     (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       02-08-2005, 6:54 PM Reply   
Can anyone comment on how they might sound vs the Evid 6.2's? They sure look a lot better.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-09-2005, 8:22 AM Reply   
I know they were back ordered on the bigger clamps, but that the bigger clamps are back in now.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-09-2005, 8:27 AM Reply   
John sent you a PM.
Old     (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-09-2005, 8:42 AM Reply   
The speakers are awesome! I have a pair on my tower and they are clean and non-distored. I tested a few other brands and the Fusion had the best overall sound when cranked up. The cans definetly look different, they dont have your traditional can shape to them.

The just came out with some chrome ones and they are much easier to clean and maintain then the polished aluminum ones.
Old     (nawakwa1)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-09-2005, 8:52 AM Reply   
Awesome, awesome !!
I bought mine last year and had them chrome plated.

Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-09-2005, 9:54 AM Reply   
I have a black tower and all Wakeside has is polished ones. Do you think it will look bad?
Old     (zeda)      Join Date: Nov 2004       02-09-2005, 12:05 PM Reply   
I recently purchased some off of Wakeside. I received 10% of the purchase price in bonus bucks for my next purchase, so I ended up buying the DVD "The Book". Great deal....buy the speakers and get $70.00 in bonus bucks....can't go wrong with that.

BTW....for those that have the Fusion speakers, what amp are you running with them? I still need to purchase an amp to drive these puppies.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-09-2005, 2:18 PM Reply   
My tower is black and I think they look great. There's alot of other polished stuff on our boats anyway.

I am using a Kicker KX450.2 to run my two Fusion T-Series at 2Ohms.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-09-2005, 2:23 PM Reply   
I just bought them. I paid 699.00. They ended the promo code deal, but I still think it is a pretty good deal.
Old     (zeda)      Join Date: Nov 2004       02-10-2005, 10:04 AM Reply   
John,

How's the performance of the speakers with the KX450.2?
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-10-2005, 1:07 PM Reply   
I don't know yet. Not hooked up, but I'm working on it when I get spare minutes.
Old     (wakeside1)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-13-2005, 10:04 PM Reply   
By the way, the deal on the Fusion Combo is over Friday the 18th. About the same time we will start offering (and shipping) the 2005 chrome version. Fusion has added a second mount for 2005.

The $699 price is a great bargain for level of speaker system, polished, including the Diamond M3 components.

Later this year, we believe that Fusion may add a black powder coated version.
Old     (nawakwa1)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-14-2005, 4:05 AM Reply   
I own a pair of 04 T-series combos which I went through the trouble to have chrome plated.
What will the 05 changes be? Will there be an additional mounting clamp added to stop them from bouncing around?
If so, could my 04's be retrofitted?
Old    plane_doc            02-14-2005, 6:34 AM Reply   
The '05 offers the chrome plating and the additional mounting clamps. It should not be to hard to modify the earlier versions with the additional clamps.


Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-14-2005, 9:38 AM Reply   
I retro-fitted my 04's and they are solid as a rock.
Old     (abundiga909)      Join Date: Jan 2005       02-14-2005, 1:43 PM Reply   
Whats so good about the new clamp style, and can they be modified for a Nautique?

I don't think of mine bouncing that much, except once the right pair almost fell b/c a part came loose--not the clamp part from the tower, but the speaker part from the clamp.
Old     (s4inor)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-14-2005, 5:45 PM Reply   
I would NOT recommend using a Kicker amp for powering something like the T-Series. Diamond Audio drivers are extremely high end, and deserve a full range amp that is capable of providing a clean, accurate signal.

The result will not only be a dramatic increase in sound quality, but you'll also be much less likely to damage the speaker's voicecoil.
Old    qfirefighter            02-14-2005, 8:29 PM Reply   
Just got the t-series about 2 weeks ago and had to hook they up to what amp i have for the tower (Kenwood Excelon 2-channel 75 watt @ 2 ohms) Sounds great!!!!! now I have my Kenwood Kac-7201 (230 watts @ 2 ohms) Oh boy baby!!! can't wait to ride behind.
Old    qfirefighter            02-14-2005, 8:37 PM Reply   
also Blue-tops are on my list.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-15-2005, 7:30 AM Reply   
Rod how many total amps do you have in your boat now. The reason I ask is because I will be adding another amp for the Fusions but I'm worried about my alternator want beable to keep up.
Old     (s4inor)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-15-2005, 9:51 AM Reply   
Lance, what is the sum of the RMS power of all the amps that you will be running?
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-15-2005, 10:07 AM Reply   
I was talking to the guy at hellroaring yesterday (the company that makes the isolator/combiners for auilary battery applications like mine) and he told me that at 650 to 700 watts RMS, you will be right about at the maximum capacity of a stock 60 or 70 AMP alternator. If you're running your system at about the top of the RMS range for long periods of time, then you will not be charging your battery very well. However, most people don't run their systems like that too much. Also if you run at near the top of the RMS range while idle, it will actually drain the aux battery because the alternator is not outputting the peak. I'm going with the stock alternator, a dual battery auxilary system using the hellroaring isolator / combiner with LED, a kicker 450.2 for my fusions, an MTX 251D thunder for my subwoofer, and another 500 watt 4 channel (65 w RMS per channel) for my interior speakers. I figure the top of the RMS output will be about 700w or so. But I'm no expert.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-15-2005, 10:13 AM Reply   
I already have an Orion 7005 (50w x 4, 300w to sub) and adding an Orion 4002 for Fusions (200w x 2) so about 900w total.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-15-2005, 10:17 AM Reply   
John correct me If I'm wrong but your at 760w just with KX450 and the other 500 watt amp not including the amp to the sub.
Old     (blownc6)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-15-2005, 11:47 AM Reply   
John,
I have a set of 04 T-series combos that I'd like to refit with the addational clamps, where did you get the 05 clamps? Thanks.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-15-2005, 5:07 PM Reply   
K:

I didn't get the 05 clamps. I have kind of a special installation situation with my tower, so I had to make a solid polished aluminum strap that I used instead that bolts to the smaller speaker, and to a bolt on my tower.

You can see them in this picture.
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I have two of the smaller Fusion clamps (upto 2-1/4) brand new if anyone is interested them. However, you will find that the top of the smaller speaker is farther from your tower because of it's smaller diameter. You would have to shim it up somehow with a block of aluminum or something. Maybe the 05 clamps solve this issue.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-15-2005, 5:13 PM Reply   
Lance:

I'm at 785 RMS total. That's probably a bit over the borderline for the alternator, but I doubt I'll be running it that hot long enough to cause an issue. If the LED on the hellroaring isolator is indicating I'm always low, then I'll upgrade the alternator or add a monster cap. I'm going to at least give it a try with what I've got.
Old    qfirefighter            02-15-2005, 9:41 PM Reply   
Lance, I have three amps, kenwood 4 channel 75 x4 interior, kenwood kac7201 230 x 2 for the tower, mtx thunder801d 800 max 400 rms for the sub. Running stock alt. Have two Napa marina bats right now but think I should go with the blue tops. Have not had the boat out yet (snow on the ground still) but we'll see if bigger alt will be needed. Will post Pics when I can figure out how to down size my Pics. Any help on posting pic would be great. Not good with computers.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-16-2005, 6:39 AM Reply   
Thanks John and Rod. I feel better about my situation now. I do not want to get into upgrading my alternator. I spoke with Centurion about it and they said I should be ok but if not to give them a call and they will help me find an alternator.

Whats the deal with the 04 clamps? Do the speakers start slipping and rotating in rough water?
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-16-2005, 6:44 AM Reply   
I see now. If you mount on the small bars between the front and back they can fall down, but if you mount on the back or front bar they will be fine. Do the clamps rotate depending on how you mount them.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-16-2005, 8:39 AM Reply   
The clamps actually only fit on the speaker at a 90 degrees from the front of the speaker (as shown in the first picture on this thread). I customized the clamp for my installation because my tower is too fat on the normal bar for the clamp to fit. It seemed pretty solid, but I could see it rotating, so I created the aluminum strap to keep it solid.
Old     (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-16-2005, 11:11 PM Reply   
Is there a curent discount code or coupon for wakeside? also has anyone ha any experience with these. infinity 6000M
infinity
Old     (wakeside1)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-17-2005, 8:43 AM Reply   
You don't need a discount code or coupon for the 2004 Fusion T Series Combo. The polished version is on clearance until tomorrow at 2:00 PM. The price is $699 and you still earn reward points. After tomorrow, the price goes up to $899 until remaining stock is depleted. The chrome version should be available by Monday at $1199.
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-17-2005, 9:12 AM Reply   
That's a good deal for those looking. When the discount code was used, you didn't get reward points, so it's about a push either way.
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-17-2005, 10:05 AM Reply   
John those Fusion's look sweet. I meant to tell you that earlier. Is there anyway you could stand back and take a pick of your whole boat with the Fusion's.(Front and Back)
Old     (jklein)      Join Date: May 2001       02-17-2005, 10:59 AM Reply   
I'll do it over the weekend. Right now the tower is laying down because I was finishing the banana clips on the tower wiring.
Old     (ridehartwell)      Join Date: Jun 2004       02-18-2005, 7:22 PM Reply   
Anyone have experience with the infinity 6000M set? I have seen a couple post questions but no replies. I want to make sure that we can clearly hear them when we ride with good quality sound. If they are good, what's a recco for amp/sub set up to drive the system.

Thanks.

Old     (monstertower)      Join Date: Mar 2003       02-18-2005, 7:33 PM Reply   
The 600M's having two 6-1/2" midbass is a plus but only one tweeter makes me thing they may not delivery as good as highs to the rider as something like two pairs of coax or the Evid 6.2's. They came to market with a huge marketing blitz and it's weird there has yet to be a review?
Old    qfirefighter            02-20-2005, 4:40 PM Reply   
OK, her is my install. Had to modify my tower a little. Wish I had more room for one more pair. They sound great at 75-watts per-channel. Next install will be my Kenwood KAC-7201 230 watts x 2-Channel amp at 2-ohms.

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