I thought that I would post here along with in the tips thread
sorry if that offends
this is a link to a video of me trying the backroll on a trampoline
I pretty much land that way on the water also
anybody got any pointers
looks like I start with the shoulder, stall out and then let the feet take me the rest of the way......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brucGpudzbg thanks