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(deltawake) · (deltawake) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 09-28-2009, 7:02 AM

Congrats to the Carrolls and Wolf Watersports for putting on a great comp this past weekend. It was great to see many from SoCal and a bunch from NorCal, plus the local contingent all having a great time. Good job Ben, Kyle, and crew! We look forward to great things next year.

(wakeparent) · (wakeparent) **Join Date: Jan 2005** 09-28-2009, 7:35 AM

How did it end up? Any pictures...

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-28-2009, 8:16 AM

It was A Great time. We had a really good turnout of riders.

The results were like this.

Wake
Ricky Gonzalez

Dubl up
Tony Carroll Nose grab Back mobe

Rail
AJ Racinelli

Over All Winners
1st Tony Carroll
2nd Ricky G
3rd Josh Twelker

Pictures coming soon

(Message edited by dadthedriver on September 28, 2009)

(26lacefield) · (26lacefield) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-28-2009, 9:56 AM

great weekend. i had a lot of fun there. we hope for the 3 or 4 that we're going to do next year to be bigger and better. there were a lot of pics taken. i'm sure someone will have them up soon.

(dclarke) · (dclarke) **Join Date: Jun 2008** 09-28-2009, 3:57 PM

Would like to thank Kyle, Ben,and the crew for a very event filled weekend. does not get any better than wake events, double ups, and sliders through the night. much thanks

(snwmot) · (snwmot) **Join Date: Sep 2006** 09-28-2009, 5:01 PM

yeah everybody thanks for putting that on it was a ton of fun! can't wait for more next year

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-28-2009, 5:42 PM

It was alot of fun. The series of 4 next year should be a good time. Thanks to everyone that helped us make it run smoothly. Dave Clark for keeping the riders in order and moving the dock along quickly. Peter Twelker who helped me keep the scoring correct. Cody keeping the jams going on the mic. The entire Seibert/Wolf family that has made just a great place for us to ride and play. I know a few people had good cameras out there so hopefully they will post up.

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(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-28-2009, 5:45 PM

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(mitch35) · (mitch35) **Join Date: Dec 2007** 09-28-2009, 7:04 PM

how did the scoring go for the riders?

(jason31) · (jason31) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 09-28-2009, 7:11 PM

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Great event everyone I had A Blast! I love kick back events like this one with Rails and Double-Ups. You guys did a great job on putting this event together mass Props to everyone involved

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-29-2009, 10:47 AM

couple more pics. I was hoping someone has the Dbl up pics.
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(mitch35) · (mitch35) **Join Date: Dec 2007** 09-29-2009, 2:04 PM

how was it scored?

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-29-2009, 2:46 PM

Wake was scored on a point system with the best 10 tricks being scored.
Ricky Beat Tony by 7 points
Wake
Ricky Gonzalez
Tony Carroll
Josh Twelker

Dbl Up was best trick chosen by the riders.
Dbl up
Tony Carroll Nose grab Back mobe

Rail Was best trick chosen by the riders.
AJ Racinelli

The overall was weighted 50% wake 25% Dub
25% Rail

Going into the rail comp Tony and Ricky were neck and neck with Tony needing to finish 2 places above Ricky to win the overall.

Over-All Winners
1st Tony Carroll
2nd Ricky G
3rd Josh Twelker

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-29-2009, 6:30 PM

hope this helps
wake was scored 2 points for 1st 4 points for 2nd 6 points for 3rd and so on
Dbl up was scored 1 point for 1st 2 points for 2nd and 3 points for 3rd and so on
rail was scored 1 point for 1st 2 points for 2nd 3 points for 3th 4 points for 4th 5 points for 5th and 6 points for 6th

that makes Wake worth twice as much as rail or dubs

Scored like golf low score wins

based on this
Ricky got
2 - wake
2 - dbl up
6 - rail
Total 10 points

Tony got
4 - wake
1 - dbl up
4 - rail
Total 9 points

low man wins

it was a point system for wake tricks and dbl up and rails were judged by the riders themselves

(Message edited by dadthedriver on September 29, 2009)

(deltawake) · (deltawake) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 09-29-2009, 7:31 PM

Doing the math a different way...

Wake: Worth 50% of final score
Ricky 1 x .5=.50
Tony 2 x .5=1.0
Josh 3 x .5 =1.5

Double Up: Worth 25% of final score
Tony 1 x .25=.25
Ricky 2 x .25=.50
Josh 4 x .25=1.0

Rails: Worth 25% of final score
Josh 3 x .25=.75
Tony 4 x .25=1.0
Ricky 6 x .25=1.5

Add them all up:
Tony 1.0+.25+1.0=2.25
Ricky .50+.50+1.5=2.50
Josh 1.5+1.0+.75=3.25

Low score wins}

(anoel) · (anoel) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 09-30-2009, 11:08 AM

Sickest podium set up! Keep killing it guys! Congrats Tony !

(mitch35) · (mitch35) **Join Date: Dec 2007** 09-30-2009, 6:47 PM

isnt that different scoring systems? if wake was worth 50% wouldnt Tony have to get 1st in dblup and rails to tie with Ricky? and why is 1st in double up more than 1st in the other two? when it is worth the most? seems backwards.

(supraride) · (supraride) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 09-30-2009, 6:52 PM

Uh Oh

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-30-2009, 10:43 PM

"isnt that different scoring systems? if wake was worth 50% wouldnt Tony have to get 1st in dblup and rails to tie with Ricky? and why is 1st in double up more than 1st in the other two? when it is worth the most? seems backwards.
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Well that would be implying that all that counts is first place. Just because first in wake got 50% doesnt mean 2nd and below were awarded no points

(deltawake) · (deltawake) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 10-01-2009, 7:47 AM

Ricky went into rails one placement ahead of Tony. If Tony had beaten him by one place, Ricky would have won the overall, beacuse they would have been tied, and wake was the tiebreaker.

Looking at it another way, and considering only Ricky and Tony: For wake, each placement is worth two points, and for DU and slide, each placement is worth one point. After wake, Ricky is ahead by two points. (wake is worth twice as much as DU and twice as much as Slide). Tony wins DU and Ricky takes second. Tony closes the gap by one point. Ricky is still ahead by one point. Going into slide, Tony needs to beat Ricky by two places to win the overall. Neither Tony nor Ricky have their best night on the sliders. Tony takes 4th and Ricky takes 6th. Tony beats Ricky by two places and wins the overall.

If anyone else's math comes out differently please let us know. It seems pretty straightforward to me.

(mitch35) · (mitch35) **Join Date: Dec 2007** 10-01-2009, 5:18 PM

last time i checked this was a wakeboarding contest not golf.

(Message edited by mitch35 on October 01, 2009)

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 10-01-2009, 5:28 PM

Mitchell this has gone on way to long. Both ways show low man wins. Even if you do it like someone else has said and give first place 0 points since low man wins it still comes out the same. several people have shown how it adds up and I am sure any other math person could come on here and explain it in another way. It is not a different scoring system. It is just another way to try and explain how each thing adds up.

Remember low mans wins.

I am really sorry that it is confusing. The wake portion was scored on Points for each trick similar to the INT but modified and used at Nor Cal WWA while they were running all of those successful Comps up there.

I made sure to keep myself out of the scoring. I drove the boat and all trick recording and scoring for Wake was done by riders in the boat who were not from the local area.

For the Double up It was judge by the riders all watching what went down. I stepped out of the boat and was met by several riders including Ricky who said Tony Clearly Won with his Nose grab Back Mobe.

As far as rails that was handled by the riders and Dave Clark from SoCal who recorded who the riders decided Finished in what position. He then handed me a score sheet.

All calculations of the score were done by Peter Twelker From Nor Cal WWA.

We ran this Comp for everyone to have fun. I now see why others have stopped having comps and others said dont have a cash purse because it leads to headaches. Wow were they right.

Next year we are doing it again in a series of 4 and I invite all of you to come out and see how the scores add up.

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 10-01-2009, 5:53 PM

Mitchell, do you have a dog in this hunt? I've seen this scoring system work for 2 years in NorCal comps with no problems. It's a tried & proven system that works. What up Ben, and BTW get the 40D.

(supraride) · (supraride) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 10-01-2009, 7:31 PM

I think Peter explained it pretty well. Ben, I think you did a great job. I am sure everyone had a great time and will be back next year. Are you guys all coming to the delta on the 17th?

(dadthedriver) · (dadthedriver) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 10-01-2009, 9:54 PM

We are planing on making the trip.