Best Rough Water Ride?

(shortywakeman) · (shortywakeman) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-19-2006, 8:04 PM

What kind of style of boat will have the best rough water ride, 20 - 24 foot range. I really want a wakeboard boat but becasue my dad is buying it its not my call, so please be honest guys. Thanks for all of your imput guys.

-Bryce

(jovedawake) · (jovedawake) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-19-2006, 8:11 PM

A Sanger V230 cuts through chop great (for a wakeboard boat). I don't know about the other Sangers.

(talltigeguy) · (talltigeguy) **Join Date: Sep 2003** 09-19-2006, 8:15 PM

I would clarify what you mean a little bit. Your profile states Lake Elsinore as your home lake - what are the rough water conditions there? For example at Lake Mead it can go from nearly glass to 5-6 foot swells in the space of 30 minutes, so rough water handling is a matter of serious safety. My home lake is very crowded on weekends and rough water is usually just a lot of boat traffic and rough water is a matter of comfort only.

I will go ahead and open the can o' worms by stating that I believe that the Tige 24V is the best inboard boat in rough water. The hull is thicker, the boat is more solid, the design of the hull and TAPS is designed to produce a terrific wakeboarding wake, and also smaller wakes for skiing. It is the most versatile.

(shortywakeman) · (shortywakeman) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-19-2006, 8:50 PM

Sry for not being as specific, the main place we deal with chop is at the colorado river, the parker strip can be a rough ride, as well as havasu. Just to explain more, im not only talking about an inboard, im looking for the best rough water ride. Thanks

(pittsy) · (pittsy) **Join Date: Apr 2004** 09-19-2006, 9:11 PM

my x-star handles the chop pretty good..i think the pickel fork breaks it up a little bit.

stillstandin 09-19-2006, 9:19 PM

I will open another can, and say the Sanger V215/230 has the best rough water handling, I've been in a lot of boats.

(krbaugh) · (krbaugh) **Join Date: Mar 2002** 09-19-2006, 9:58 PM

Deep V is what gives a great rough water ride

Sanger, Tige, and Centurion all have deep V's all the way to the back of the boat

(bennygoodx) · (bennygoodx) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-19-2006, 10:22 PM

I really enjoyed my Yamaha AR230 high output in rough water. It's not the best wakeboard boat as it is a jet boat, but it did soo well in the rough. Now I'm on a Mastercraft and love that for an all around boat. I'm also super impressed with Tige over the other options.

(tomcalabria) · (tomcalabria) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 09-19-2006, 10:32 PM

Rough water wakeboard boat: IMO Sanger. My Calabria does well but Sanger is in a class of its own in rough water for a wakeboard boat.

(ghostrider_2) · (ghostrider_2) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 09-19-2006, 11:35 PM

did somebody already say Sanger V215?

end of discussion

no really take one out in rough water and it'll speak for itself.

(committed) · (committed) **Join Date: Jul 2005** 09-20-2006, 6:39 AM

I'll camp with the Tige as well. Just check Havi, and see the amount of Tiges' on the water there for further evidence. Tell your pops, he can catch a ride with me on Elsi, and he can judge for himself.
Good luck with the search.

(jovedawake) · (jovedawake) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-20-2006, 9:04 AM

Well, our Boston Whaler (21') cuts through chop like a champ. BWs have got to be one of the best boats at doing that. Not to mention, they float if you cut them into pieces with a chain saw. BUT it is no wakeboard boat!!! (for many reasons)

Sacrifice a little of the smoother ride on those rough days, and go with a Sanger V215 or V230!

We own both, and if I had to pick one over the other...the Sanger would win, hands down. Each boat has its purpose, and if you plan on wakeboarding, you will want a wakeboard boat...I said the Sanger V230 (or V215) cuts through chop great! for a wakeboard boat, and many others are agreeing.

So take a look and demo.

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 09-20-2006, 9:44 AM

Yeah, all Sangers kill the rough water for sure. They are a great do everything boat. The only downer is how low they sit. If you get stuck in rough water at slow speeds you could be in trouble

(psudy) · (psudy) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 09-20-2006, 10:01 AM

MC 45, or Bu 247.

(jovedawake) · (jovedawake) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-20-2006, 10:07 AM

CIE has a good point, that is the only thing i don't like about sangers...they do sit pretty low at slow speeds. You just have to be careful and know how to drive a boat when big rollers come along.

aren't most wakeboard boats like that though????

(alans) · (alans) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-20-2006, 10:16 AM

MB's new Tomcat is smooth as silk in the chop

(parkgirl) · (parkgirl) **Join Date: Nov 2001** 09-20-2006, 10:30 AM

Do the new V215's and V230's sit low? I thought that was mostly an issue with the 210.

(ghostrider_2) · (ghostrider_2) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 09-20-2006, 10:34 AM

I don't think they sit that low unless sacked out like any other boat.

lower than some and high than some..

(shelstad) · (shelstad) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-20-2006, 10:34 AM

HOW ABOUT THIS RIG? FROM MC

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(bennettag10) · (bennettag10) **Join Date: Aug 2005** 09-20-2006, 10:36 AM

that mc is so ugly

(shelstad) · (shelstad) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-20-2006, 10:40 AM

I am just putting it out there for entertainment purposes only. I do not have any opinion as to look, ride, ect. All I know is they designed this prototype for the ocean.

(ghostrider_2) · (ghostrider_2) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 09-20-2006, 10:41 AM

MC actually put their name on that!

(supra) · (supra) **Join Date: Aug 2002** 09-20-2006, 10:54 AM

New 24 foot SUpra (2007) test drive it and you will see what I am talking about... The new 22 SSV Supra does well too, make sure it is a 2007, Supra did something to make them much better in rough water.

(mrm2083) · (mrm2083) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 09-20-2006, 11:43 AM

Were did u take that pic, that's the updated csx

(psudy) · (psudy) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 09-20-2006, 12:00 PM

Is that the x80 hull, or the 45?

(mrm2083) · (mrm2083) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 09-20-2006, 12:03 PM

I dont think its either hull. When I saw the original at the miami boat show I was told that it was on, i think, an xstar hull, but that the boat was going to be getting its own hull that would have a deeper V. Judging by the pictures that V looks pretty deep so i think that might be the new hull

(mjmurphy53711)

I actually didnt read this whole post, but to whoever said the XSTAR was a great rough water boat, are you NUTS????

The xstar is horrible in chop, has anyone ever honestly looked/rode in an old Boston Whaler Tri Hull and compared it to the xstar hull?

Honestly, the deep V of centurions is likely one of the best rough water rides for an inboard.

(cweb) · (cweb) **Join Date: Sep 2006** 09-20-2006, 12:18 PM

YEEAAAHHHH!! CENTURIONS

Thanks MIKE

(jimzgirly) · (jimzgirly) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-20-2006, 12:26 PM

We go to the Parker Strip all the time. That is what we call our home lake.. :-)

We have an 06 Centurion Avalanche C4 and we love it. We were just there this past weekend and it was windy all weekend, which sucks for boarding but as far as the boat ride, could not even tell that it was windy outside. The boat cuts thru the chop very nicely. It is also a great priced boat for what you get... I am sure many boats do the same thing in the chop but I am just very happy with our as far as cost and how it handles. We used to have an 86 Centurion ski boat and would never take it out in the chop. You needed a kidney belt... Good luck on finding a boat..

(sanger215guy) · (sanger215guy) **Join Date: Oct 2004** 09-20-2006, 12:34 PM

Sanger by far out weighs any other brand on the market for solid ride in rough water. And not to mention handeling. Supra, not quite and I say this having a 07 22ssv comming in a month. Centurions probably come in third behind the damn heavy Tige's.

(shelstad) · (shelstad) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 09-20-2006, 1:25 PM

MANNY I took it at Surf Expo this weekend.

MIKE I couldn't agree w/ you more I have rode an xstar in chop and it felt like we were on the ocean & our pleasure cruz was going to turn into a Gilligan's Island saga.

And YES it does have a deep V and No it is not an xstar hull hence it would defeat the whole purpose for the boat

(tarpongator) · (tarpongator) **Join Date: Jan 2006** 09-20-2006, 1:58 PM

My SAN 220 is solid in the lake chop. To clarify, this is on a 2,500 acre lake...mostly boat chop, some wind but not major rough stuff. I did prefer it over the 22VE I test drove on my lake. The Tige was very similar.

(jovedawake) · (jovedawake) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-20-2006, 2:26 PM

Dex, our V230 goes out on a lake with waves that have swallowed up a 700ft freighter (split it in 2). That would be the Great Lakes.

Here is that sad story.
http://www.mhsd.org/publications/glswr/efitz.htm

(Message edited by jovedawake on September 20, 2006)

(rukie) · (rukie) **Join Date: Jan 2006** 09-20-2006, 2:30 PM

My AVY does great with Choppy water, but so does my buddies Sanger(V230). I think Centurion/Sanger are both pretty solid in chop.

(big_ed_x2) · (big_ed_x2) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 09-20-2006, 2:59 PM

I demoed a Centurion and I though it was great for rough water.(Avalanche)

(gti2lo) · (gti2lo) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 09-20-2006, 3:03 PM

Lake Superior can be nasty as any ocean..

Waves over 30 feet high!!

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(cbk) · (cbk) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-20-2006, 6:48 PM

Other than the T5, the Centurion is on top.

(badbob13ftw) · (badbob13ftw) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 09-20-2006, 7:02 PM

I was at PS, also Mojave in July (06 VLX Bu)...filled the center ballast cut thru the swells pretty well

(ncbschzzt) · (ncbschzzt) **Join Date: Jul 2006** 09-20-2006, 7:20 PM

I agree with the center ballast full the VLX cuts through chop.

(shortywakeman) · (shortywakeman) **Join Date: Sep 2005** 09-20-2006, 7:48 PM

Thanks guys for the help, were not really lookin to spend more than 32k, so a brand new boat is not an option. This thread is really helping me convince my dad into getting an inboard. Any more comments of boats for 32k, or any ads you guys can find would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

-Bryce

Also: if anyone is interested we have a 1989 arriva for sale in the classifieds section.

(jovedawake) · (jovedawake) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 09-20-2006, 8:15 PM

Bryce, Used Sanger V215. There you go.

They are built so tight, it will feel like a new boat even if it is a few years old.

(Message edited by jovedawake on September 20, 2006)

(projectely4) · (projectely4) **Join Date: Apr 2003** 09-22-2006, 8:23 AM

im going to have to disagree with you guys that the xstar is bad at handling rough water. i have taken my 04 Xstar in the tampa bay, rivers, have taken the beating of massive wakes by 30-40 ft yachts and have even come close to getting the boat air born once or twice, and the entire time i felt very safe and the ride was very good for a 22 ft wakeboard specific made boat. i would definately reccomend a bigger boat for rough water but if youre looking for a wakeboard boat that handles rough water. the xstar isn't a bad choice

(gti2lo) · (gti2lo) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 09-22-2006, 11:21 AM

you'd be better off with a Malibu 247 because of it's Vee shape in the front of the boat to slice the waves a little better.

(nate138) · (nate138) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 09-22-2006, 11:47 AM

My Centurion is awesome in the rough. It handles Tahoe like a champ.