HEY! Another Boat Discusion Thread.

(hawk7) · (hawk7) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 06-24-2007, 6:05 PM

So for '07 my family is trading in our '04 Sky Supreme v208. Because of this, we have been looking at boats and heard many salesman bashing the other guys boat, mainly Malibu bashing MasterCraft. I'm confused, I get why they bash each other, they need to earn a living. I want to hear as many opinions as I can of those out there supporting a certain boat BUT[!!] I want to see them backed by facts. Keep It Clean, Try Not To Get Too Heated And Like I Already Said, No Fact-less Bashing.

Length
X2: 20 ft boat
210: 23 ft boat
VLX: 21 ft boat

Capacity
X2: 12 People
210: 10 People
VLX: 11 People

Wake
[Keep in Mind; Pure Opinion]
X2: Smooth Transition to Strong Lip
210: Abrupt Vertical
VLX: Abrupt Vertical

Build
X2: Very Strong Hull w/ Many Layers
210: 2 Reports Of Hull Flex
VLX: Reportedly Strong and Quiet as well

X2: $50,370.00 MSRP W/ 3 Year $10,000 rebate
210: $63,540.00 MSRP
VLX: $54,603.00 MSRP

IMO this makes me say

1. X2
2. 210
3. VLX

Now I KNOW someone will object to this so let's hear it!

(Message edited by hawk7 on June 24, 2007)

stillstandin 06-24-2007, 7:06 PM

IMO...

1. VLX (great size, great wake, great build)
2. X2 (great build, great seating for a 21ft boat, and cool looking)
3. 210 (the new ones have horrible seating, and to see my opinion/experiences with CC see the other thread).

(hawk7) · (hawk7) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 06-24-2007, 7:10 PM

X2 is a 20ft boat

(ponte_06_x2) · (ponte_06_x2) **Join Date: Jan 2006** 06-24-2007, 7:36 PM

if you can get the x2 for 50 grand. that boat will be the best one to get. dam thats real cheap for a x 2.

(hawk7) · (hawk7) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 06-24-2007, 7:39 PM

it's after the $10,000 rebate though.

(yosquire) · (yosquire) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 06-24-2007, 7:42 PM

Good luck trying to get that rebate. The rebate has been discussed a lot, there are a lot of hoops you have to jump through in order and on time. If you don't do it then kiss that $10k goodbye.

In all the rebate threads, I've never heard anyone say "Yeah, I was able to claim the $10k rebate."

(twoten) · (twoten) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 06-24-2007, 7:45 PM

I agree with SCA and I am a die-hard nautique guy... but I will stick with my 04 210 until nautique realizes their new boat is ugly and a waste.

Go VLX... awesome boat for the $

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-24-2007, 8:33 PM

Another vote for the vlx, more boat for the money then the others and very family friendly.

(deltaboy) · (deltaboy) **Join Date: Jan 2007** 06-24-2007, 8:54 PM

More boat for the money if you are talking only those three maybe. Go for a Wakecraft definitely more bang for the buck without loosing anything in performance, features and killer warrantee. BUT! If you are only considering those three then I would go for the Bu. All will be good but nothing like getting to go check out your boat being built through all the different stages. You’re close enough to Merced to do that.

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-24-2007, 8:56 PM

But who's going to work on it if something happens?

(deltaboy) · (deltaboy) **Join Date: Jan 2007** 06-24-2007, 9:10 PM

Engine work can be done by any PCM authorized. And Wakecraft has and is setting up other places as they get going (from what I understand) for me its just a few minute drive to the factory if I need anything. Nu bu its a question I havnt asked them in a while but I will be on the lake tomorrow evening with Wakecraft and I'll get an update. It definately helps to have a good place to take you boat for work. Luckly I havent had to have any extra work done. Sweet profile pic by the way nu bu.

(tyboarder03) · (tyboarder03) **Join Date: Nov 2003** 06-24-2007, 9:40 PM

ummmm the 210 is only 21 feet not 23.
http://www.wakeworld.com/boats/getboat8.asp?ProductID=200196

(longgonebon) · (longgonebon) **Join Date: Jan 2007** 06-25-2007, 4:49 PM

You should be able to get the $10k on the malibu too. That "deal" is from both Ultimae Watersports and Cope/McPheters (they are the same company really)

I looked at these 2 boats (not the nautique) but personally went MB B-52, so that could be another option for you to look at.
The MC and VLX are very nice too, I liked the VLX stock wake better.
I liked the MB stock best (for surfing) and went with that. It's so rare to get good water on Folsom surfing became more of a priority.

(ttrigo) · (ttrigo) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 06-25-2007, 4:56 PM

IMO, I would stay away from the dealers who bash other boat companies. that is not a good sign of the service to come your way later. but that is just my opinion.
also, I dont think the VLX wake can be compared to the SAN wake. although, I have not ridden the 07 SAN yet, but from the earlier models, they would be considered much steeper than a VLX.

(mcwakerider) · (mcwakerider) **Join Date: Dec 2006** 06-25-2007, 5:14 PM

VLX for sure... so much bigger inside. Great wake too...

(fyrdawg29) · (fyrdawg29) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 06-25-2007, 5:20 PM

VLX. But i am also an owner, and a very happy one at that. Awesome wake...

(jaytique) · (jaytique) **Join Date: Feb 2007** 06-25-2007, 5:25 PM

vlx, not a vlx owner but spent a whole day on my friends 06 and fell in love with every aspect of it. will trade up to one eventually

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-25-2007, 5:33 PM

Thanks Kevin.

(mcwakerider) · (mcwakerider) **Join Date: Dec 2006** 06-25-2007, 5:37 PM

from of the looks of your profile trevor you guys already made your choice...

(byrd) · (byrd) **Join Date: Dec 2005** 06-25-2007, 5:38 PM

Which dealer has the best reputation for customer service? You have narrowed it down to 3 great boats, I'm partial to MC, but 99% is due to my dealer, Liquid Sports Marine, and my MC Rep, Zane Schwenk. I trust them to take care of me, and that is why I bought what I did.

(woreout) · (woreout) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 06-25-2007, 7:21 PM

I agree with Byrd our local MC dealer here Liquid Sports Marine is awesome!!
Zane lives here in Winter Haven also and is always willing to help out.
You can buy a boat anywhere, its how you get treated LONG AFTER the sale that matters.

(johnw) · (johnw) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 06-25-2007, 7:32 PM

Another vote for a VLX! Smooth running (I currently have an 03) it has been nothing but reliable and a smooth rampy wake. I am currently thinking about a newer one. Just a bit of a trough just before the ramp of the wake begins compared to CC or MC. Good Luck!

(woreout) · (woreout) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 06-25-2007, 7:47 PM

Oh yeah, get the X2 its only 20ft boat, but prolly has more room and storage inside than a lot of other larger boats, especially the CC's. It doesnt drive like a pig either, like some of the larger boats do, including the bigger MCs.
I love the way the X2 handles very responsive and the wake with a little extra weight is very nice as well.

(duramaxer) · (duramaxer) **Join Date: Nov 2006** 06-25-2007, 9:02 PM

I don't mean to be stupid but what is this 10 grand rebate some of you are talking about?
I have never heard of this.

(longgonebon) · (longgonebon) **Join Date: Jan 2007** 06-25-2007, 10:00 PM

It's called Cash Rewards.. you get $10K back in 3 years when you buy the boat, but you need to jump through a bunch of hoops and do everything exactly right... i've never talked to anyone who got their money and that made me skeptical. I think if you do a search for cash rewards it will be the first site that comes up.
You can also pay a little less for your boat not get the cash rewards.

(longgonebon) · (longgonebon) **Join Date: Jan 2007** 06-25-2007, 10:02 PM

btw- when I priced those boats (loaded with good stereo etc.) with tax etc. the boats priced out liked this:
VLX $65K X2 $70K (for last year's model)

(ralph) · (ralph) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 06-25-2007, 11:06 PM

Another vote for VLX, its a tough package to beat IMO.

(supra24ssv) · (supra24ssv) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 06-26-2007, 8:03 AM

here is a 4th option
2007 supra 24 gravity (one in my profile) loaded, loaded, loaded
57,900 it has 35 hrs

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-26-2007, 8:10 AM

I'm sure they'd rather have a VLX

(sean21v) · (sean21v) **Join Date: Mar 2007** 06-26-2007, 8:31 AM

Not Me

(supra24ssv) · (supra24ssv) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 06-26-2007, 8:51 AM

thats a good one nubu

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-26-2007, 9:15 AM

Why are you selling already, I remember when you just sold your other one and now this one?

(supra24ssv) · (supra24ssv) **Join Date: Mar 2006** 06-26-2007, 11:45 AM

buying a sea ray 400
i am so pumped

(05mobiuslsv) · (05mobiuslsv) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 06-26-2007, 1:28 PM

That thing will throw a nasty wake, then you won't have any competition on the "biggest wake" threads. Probably be like chest high.

bocephus 06-26-2007, 1:33 PM

Looks like you are doing some serious research here. Way to make an educated decision...

00wakesetter 06-26-2007, 1:42 PM

Username: Hawk7
Full Name: Trevor
E-mail Address: trevor.hawkins@yahoo.com
Last Logged In: June 26, 2007
Registered: April 05, 2007
Total Posts: 357
City: Davis
State/Province: California
Country: US
Personal Quote: I'm Not Honest, But That's Interesting.
Age: 14
Sex (M/F): M
Wakeboard: Ronix One
Boat : Brand Spankin New MasterCraft X2!!
Bindings: Murray
Favorite Rider: Danny Harf
Home Lake: Folsom
Favorite Wake: X-Star or Older Natique 210

and in another thread you refered to yourself as one of the x star guys.

Dude your 14, ride behind anything you can and dont bitch about anything!

00wakesetter 06-26-2007, 1:43 PM

By Trevor (hawk7) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 2:56 pm:

X Star. Tomcat? RZ2?? WTF?

Tomcat? Funny lookin little creation there. is that tower sturdy at all? and those go for what? I'm Guessing $74,000, that nieghborhood?

RZ2? looks like someone took an X Star, Put a wierd tige tower on it, smooshed it down, and found some star wars enthusiast to put graphics that he thought were cool on there.

Is that what all us X-Star people are going to say? good guess.