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Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-05-2010, 11:25 PM Reply   
Our primary tow rig is a 1/2 ton Suburban LTZ. It's also my wife's daily driver (kid hauler).


The problem is that every time I need to take the boat w/out the family (dealer run, guys' trip to river, etc.) I have to take away her car. My car isn't big enough to tow the boat or serve as kid hauler. So she gets stranded... and ticked!

I like our white suburban so much that I'm considering something like this for me. This will allow me the flexibility to tow the boat without disrupting my wife's life.

On the other hand... putting three very thirsty V8's into one garage seems pretty excessive, even if they DO match! I'm pretty sure you can be arrested in Oregon for that sort of carbon footprint.


Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-05-2010, 11:35 PM Reply   
I've had several lifted trucks. 3/4 ton, 1/2 ton, newer, older, etc....

My last truck was an 08 GMC Sierra 1500. Lifting it ruined the pulling, and it sucked to start with. My Supra is about 6,000# loaded and the 1/2 ton's are way underpowered IMO. Even if you regear the truck to 4.10 or 4.56 it will be a little better, but fuel economy goes way down.

Pics for proof


If you're gonna spend that much on a truck (the above truck would be around $30K), you'd be better off with an 06-07 2500HD Duramax. That truck has the 6.6L LBZ engine and that's plenty of power. Even with 20x10's and 33's on mine, it towed perfectly.

Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-05-2010, 11:50 PM Reply   
I hear you, John. Our Sub is not quite the tow rig I thought it would be when we bought it. It's a great family vehicle, but it struggles on long, uphill pulls like when we go to Shasta.

I have considered 3/4 ton diesel, but they don't make them with the short 5.5' box. It has to be 6.5' and that rig won't fit in my garage anymore. I'm weird about stuff fitting in my garage. On the other hand, the diesel could become our primary tow rig if I got the front bench seat (we have four kids).

Also, the Duramax will add almost $10k.

Finally, my commute is 40 miles round trip (country roads). If driving the 1/2 ton alone seems excessive, the 3/4 ton commuter to work feels down right silly.

What about if I hold out for a 6.0L in the 1/2 ton? Wouldn't that help?

Those trucks just look so hawt. I think I might be trying to talk myself into a bad idea.
Old     (ctimrun)      Join Date: Aug 2009       01-06-2010, 1:33 AM Reply   
Don't be talked into something that doesn't fit your needs. The 6 liter gas engine will pull your boat great and you can get it in a configuration that will still fit in your garage. I recently switched from an 08 dodge diesel truck to a 3/4 ton suburban (with the 6 liter) and the suburban does great pulling the boat, even when loaded full of adults. I might not be able to tow 85 mph uphill but I never did that with the diesel anyways. Plus most of the claims (if not all in the newer diesels) of great mileage empty and towing are pipe dreams. The best I saw while towing was about 9 and empty was 13, all hand calculated, and I drove the thing like there was an egg between my foot and the gas pedal.

IMO it is not a good idea to have a tow vehicle lifted, especially if you are going to choose a half ton. If you do want to sacrifice your garage requirement and step up to a 3/4 ton then a lift will have less affect on your towing performance.

(Message edited by ctimrun on January 06, 2010)
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-06-2010, 2:01 AM Reply   
The 6.0L gas burner is the worst decision of all.... I've had one of those. 12mpg unloaded, 7 loaded. That's on flat ground.

DBC, the Duramax like it sits up there fits in a normal garage. It's tight, but works. It's not much longer than a Suburban, if any at all. Yes, add $10K for a new one, I recommended an 06-07, which would be $10K less then the white truck you posted in the pic. New Duramax's are around $34K if you catch the deals just right, or find a new holdover.
Old     (saceone)      Join Date: Jan 2009       01-06-2010, 4:17 AM Reply   
some beautiful machines in here!!!
Old     (jmuthafnp)      Join Date: Feb 2006       01-06-2010, 6:08 AM Reply   
Buy a new Tundra with the 5.7, I prefer the double cab, but you can get the crewmax, lift it and call it good. It costs to be the boss buddy. This is a 3/4 ton capable truck in a 1/2 ton package. Do that with your GM, Ford or Dodge.

Not mine, but you get the idea.

(Message edited by jmuthafnp on January 06, 2010)
Old     (patrick232)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-06-2010, 6:13 AM Reply   
Look around and get the 1/2 Crew Cab with the 6.2 liter. That's what I bought this past October and turned the 06 Duramax into the company truck vs the Salesmans car.
I have been getting about 15.5 miles per gallon, but I know the remote start is hurting it some. Only towed the box trailer once I would say 100% improvement over towing it with our 2007 Suburban, and almost = to the Duramax with 130K on the clock.

One last thing a truck that is a mid 6 sec 0-60 mph is fun to drive.

Per the 2010 it's got 403 HP and 417 lb-ft torque thats 88 more hp and 79 more lb-ft torque then the Suburban with the 5.3 liter

(Message edited by patrick232 on January 06, 2010)
Old     (h20king)      Join Date: Dec 2009       01-06-2010, 6:16 AM Reply   
i tow with an o8 gmc half ton and have no problems plenty of power it's not lifted but does have 24's we only tow at around 65 the hills on i-5 to shasta are no problem my centurion is 4000 dry plus the trailer.i to went with the half ton crew so it would fit in the im not a fan of all the rocks a lifted truck will throw at your boat
Old     (wake26)      Join Date: Mar 2009       01-06-2010, 7:26 AM Reply   
I'm with johnyb if you tow your boat on a regular basis you can't go wrong with a diesel I have pulled my boat with half ton chevy's, Dodge and ford's and yes they will pull it but you have to have your foot in it all the time even worse if you hit a hill. Why buy a truck with a monster V8 and get 8mpg when you can get a diesel that will get 15mph. I have a 99 dodge with the cummins I get 17-18 in town and 15 when towing my boat.
Old     (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       01-06-2010, 7:37 AM Reply   
God I love the new Tundra's, that looks SICK!!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       01-06-2010, 7:44 AM Reply   
yep. I pass by the Toyota dealership 2x a day. There's a black lifted crew cab out there that's been calling my name this week. I don't want a truck payment so, I've been trying to look the other way. But, its getting harder and harder to do. Great looking trucks.
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       01-06-2010, 10:48 AM Reply   
That new Tundra looks extra sick.

Don't think that a 3/4 ton will be overkill. They are, but they also get much better mileage loaded and unloaded than a 1/2 ton gasser. The 6.0 tows great, but they'll cost you a ton on a long trip, particularly, over the passes. If you can get over the size a 3/4 ton diesel is quite a nice daily ride. The new 5.3's are lame. My brother has one and struggles up the passes with his 16' Donzi. My diesel will tow circles around that truck even with 8k worth of X-star and lead in tow.

I'd like to have a closer look at the Tundra. They'd be high on my list if I were looking for a smaller truck.

That said... the new 6.0 GMC is sooo sweet looking.
Old     (brett564)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-06-2010, 10:54 AM Reply   

Why does having the truck lifted change towing performance? Is this a aerodynamic thing, that would change all around performance?
Old     (chilidog)      Join Date: Dec 2007       01-06-2010, 11:16 AM Reply   
Bu Coo, the lift won't matter other than on bumps you have more leverage from the hitch thru the frame to the suspension, so you may bounce a little more and have slightly more sway than stock. The change is when you increase tire size w/o changing the rearend gear ratio. If you have 37s or less and all you are towing is a wakeboat with a diesel you prob wouldn't notice too much difference due to the diesel's torque, but with a gas engine throw on big tires and you have robbed the rig of its gear ratio from the factory, thus making it like riding a bike up a hill with your big gear up front instead of your small gear up front. Its all about regearing big trucks so it doesn't wait to shift at 20mph out of first gear when stock it shifted at 10mph. Get it??

I had 36s on a truck and regeared it from 3.50 to 4.56 and it made it seem like it had 200 more horsepower, but probably just put it back to the stock final ratio between tire speed and engine rpm.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-06-2010, 11:17 AM Reply   
It's not the lift Bu Coo, it's the diameter of the tires that ultimately changes the truck's final drive ratio. You can correct it by changing the gears in the axles but people rarely do.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-06-2010, 11:30 AM Reply   
Question: For people that have had a non lifted truck and towed with it and then added a lift kit and towed. Does lifting a truck?

A. Make it better for towing?
B. Make it worse for towing?
C. Has no effect either way?
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       01-06-2010, 12:25 PM Reply   
Grant, it made my Tahoe a total slug. Just going to 33" tires from the stock 31's. I'll never lift a tow vehicle again. Maybe I'm just getting old, but for all the stuff I like to do lifting a truck is a performance robber. The only thing I'd ever lift is a true off road vehicle.

-Worse gas mileage, worse towing, harder to load/unload.
Old     (bchesley)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-06-2010, 1:00 PM Reply   
A. and B. actually.

I have had two seperate trucks in the past 5 years. One is a 02 half ton Dodge and the other a 04 three quarter ton Dodge. I improved my ride on my 04 Dodge when I lifted it. I had a little softer progressive spring and much better Bilstein shocks. However, there was some power loss with a larger tire. Its a diesel so I added a box to make up the difference.

The half ton I also got a smother ride from the lift, but the power loss was pretty bad. I ended up swapping out the gears to try and get some power back but ended up selling it to buy the diesel.

After having said all that I took the lift off of the 04 diesel and will not lift it again to tow with. Its fun and looks great, but not fun to tow and drive 3000 miles a month in.
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-06-2010, 1:29 PM Reply   
Okay... lots of good feedback here, but my favorite part is the pics! Great truck porn!

Here is another that caught my eye

A few things to keep in mind...

1) This would be my 2nd tow vehicle. Primary usage would be around town. Guys' trip to local ramp 10 mins away. Service visits to dealer 30 minutes away. Is 3/4 ton diesel really necessary for this??

2) This will be my daily driver. That's why the lift is important. I'm the sort of person that likes to drive a "eye catching" cars. You will never catch me in a beige Accord. Stock trucks are like beige Accords to me... very boring.

3) I really want it to fit in my garage. The Suburban fits nicely with room to spare, but it's only 222" long. The 1/2 ton crew w/ 5.5' box is 230" long (will fit, but getting tight). The 3/4 ton crew w/ 6.5' box is 240" long which won't fit. Because of the longer bed on the 3/4 ton, I'd have to give up the crew cab and go with supercab. That truck is back down to 230".

4) Provided I could get it into the garage (i.e. supercab not crewcab), the 3/4 ton diesel idea is intriguing. That truck would be a better daily driver (better mpg's, right?) and it could also server as our long distance tow rig (two bench seats = six seat belts) for the annual trips to Shasta, Prineville, Billy Chinook, etc.

5) The new and used truck market is NOT buyer friendly right now. GM stopped production for much of the year. Most local dealers have very little inventory. And the used prices are sky high as a result. KBB values do not reflect what I'm seeing in the market. That white Sierra I posted above actually has KBB trade-in value of $14K (not incl. lift setup). Even if you add the mods, I don't see how it's listed for $28K. But it is!
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-06-2010, 1:58 PM Reply   
Some poor sap probably paid $35K for that truck, then modified it. That's how much money these trucks lose just from driving off the lot.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-06-2010, 3:27 PM Reply   
I've lifted a truck & it didn't effect the towing at all..... till we changed the tires out.

And I've upgraded the tires on another truck from a 30" to a 33" without lifting the truck at all..... & it robbed all the torque to the point that it towed terribly.

It's not the lift, it's the tire size that kills it.
Old     (detonate69)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-06-2010, 4:01 PM Reply   
I have a stock 08 silverado ext. cab. Has the 5.3l and tows like a beast. I towed a 26' travel trailer over to pismo over the hills and through the sand like it was nothing about 6500lbs. Truck just is awesome for towing imo. Sure not as much power as a diesel but I paid less and still get 20+mpg on the freeway when not towing.
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-06-2010, 8:02 PM Reply   
An 08 5.3 is a beast? Did you grow up driving S-10's?

Before I lifted my 08, with the 5.3L, it was possibly the worst truck I'd ever towed with.

When I took my boat/trailer back to Boatmate in Maryville, I drove 6.5 hours and absolutely hated it. On every little incline, the truck lost at least 15mph. The instant mpg on the DIC would show 2 mpg going up the hill, and I was being conservative, trying to maintain an average of 65mph. At one point (and I had a pic that I cant find) as I was going up a hill, the tachometer was showing almost 5000rpm, DIC said 1 mpg, and at 45mph I was losing speed. That's not the work of a beast. They've put so much crap on these trucks for the treehuggers that they have barely enough torque to pull a single-axle 4-wheeler trailer.

My Duramax got 21 in the city, a little more on the highway, but never got less than 14-15 loaded down towing. After changing the shocks to Bilstiens it drove just like a 1/2 ton, but better. The suspension on those trucks were all the same with torsion bars. The newer trucks from 07.5+ dont have TB, but a macpherson strut, which does ride a little better, and doesn't have the dreaded steering clunk like the 99-06's did.
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-06-2010, 8:32 PM Reply   
We have an 07 burb ltz as well with the 6.1. It's definitely not what its hyped up to be when it comes to towing. Towing 6 dirtbikes on a seadoo trailer from Seattle to Bend or. wasn't as easy as I would've thought. It really struggles on long hills. So while we were down there we got ourselves a new tow rig.

2005 Excursion v8 diesel. Since these pics we have replaced the heads and fogs with 12k HIDs, replaced the toyos with Mickey T's, replaced all the speakers, 8in screen in the dash and 2 10in subs in the barn doors. It tows like a dream. No performance mods, its bone stock. Sorta a dream come true for me, I'm in love with it!

Old     (wakecumberland)      Join Date: Oct 2007       01-06-2010, 8:37 PM Reply   
Nice Lotus!
Old     (detonate69)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-06-2010, 9:01 PM Reply   
LOL of course you like towing better with a diesel. You can't compare the two. But something was wrong with your 5.3 I have absolutely no problems towing whether it's a boat or whatever. Obviously within it's limits, it's a gasser. but for towing what it was built for it works awesome.

If you want a truck thats gonna tow a boat like nothing is back there. Well get a diesel. No gasser will do that because with most boats your using like 75% of the towing capability with a gas rig. With a diesel your using like 30% of the towing capacity. Hence it tows easier.

(Message edited by detonate69 on January 06, 2010)
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-06-2010, 9:32 PM Reply   
How about this one...?

It's a 2005 Ford F-250 6.0L Powerstroke with supercab and short bed (should fit in garage). It's white! It's lifted! But it has 78K miles (ouch!) and costs $26K (double ouch!).

I kind of wish it was an '07 (new body style) Chevy or GMC Duramax in same color and configuration.

Upload otal=17&pos=2&current=1&size=12
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-06-2010, 9:40 PM Reply   
Twitch - was your LTZ Suburban your wife's daily driver? If so, how in the world did you convince your wife to give up this dash...


for this dash...


I would be afraid to even suggest it!
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-06-2010, 10:06 PM Reply   
David, twitch's family has toys. :-). Really think you should consider a tundra... Fits all your needs perfectly.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-06-2010, 10:12 PM Reply   
LOL cal

I think he likes GM's better. Perhaps we could start a Tundra thread?Upload
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-06-2010, 10:21 PM Reply   
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-06-2010, 10:24 PM Reply   
Adam- Thanx Its a blast!

DBC- hahahahahaha I'm 18 man but we still have our burb. I agree though, the interior is soooo sick. We got rid of the cheezy wood and put in brushed aluminum and it looks prettyy clean. As far as the wife thing goes me and my dad converse about whether the "boss" would like this or that all the time. She actually secretly likes the hoss. I catch her driving it instead of her rover sometimes.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-06-2010, 10:24 PM Reply   
Here's my contribution to the "porn"


For the diesel guys...

The f650 can have the 7.2 liter Cat with 860LB-ft of torque!

No more lagging up hills with those weak 650 lb ft cummings, powerstrokes or duramax's...
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-06-2010, 11:43 PM Reply   
More porn....
Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       01-07-2010, 12:21 AM Reply   
I never understood why guys feel so vertically challenged that they lift their vehicles??? Nothing funnier than seeing a 5'4" muscled up guy hop out of a 7' tall truck. Obviously there are exceptions but this seems to be the norm.

Most lifts destroy the geometry of the suspension and ruins the handling, assuming you are not going to extremes and completely modifying the suspension angles to work correctly at the different pivot points.

I just puzzled why this is modification is still so popular. I would have thought it's popularity would have faded as the low-rider fad has.

To answer Grant's question, the lift destroys the handling. The bigger diameter tires destroys the acceleration AND BRAKING.

I will never lift a truck over stock specifications. My 99 Silverado Z71 with a 5.3L tows well enough to keep me content and gets 15+MPG on the highway at 75MPH. My 03 Tahoe 5.3L doesn't tow quite as strong as the truck but it has slightly taller gears. I demand good handling and braking out of my trucks. If you can learn to be happy pulling hills at 50mph in second gear at 4000RPM you will have no troubles with a stock diameter tire 5.3L vehicle.

David/Detonate, there is a very significant difference between towing a low freeboard 20' direct drive boat versus a tall heavy 22' wakeboard boat, typically 1500lbs difference. My trucks tow my ski boat like nothing, the wakeboard boat is a different ballgame.
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-07-2010, 1:09 AM Reply   
What's the story on the Tundra? It's a 1/2 ton truck, right? Why would it tow any better than a 1/2 ton GM?
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-07-2010, 2:24 AM Reply   
DBC, that Ford would be great for towing, but make sure you drive it at least for 75 miles before committing to a purchase. Those trucks don't ride quite as well as what you're accustomerd to.

Yes, the Tundra is a 1/2 ton truck. I don't know what all the hype over it is about....
Old     (brett564)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-07-2010, 3:43 AM Reply   
"Chilidog"... Awesome explanation, and now this thread makes sense!
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-07-2010, 4:58 AM Reply   
Discussion just a couple months back...
Old     (bchesley)      Join Date: Apr 2001       01-07-2010, 5:31 AM Reply   

I lift my trucks because I am still that little kid inside that plays with bigfoot the monster truck. I never go crazy with the daily driver though. It always doubles as a tow vehicle so I keep that in mind. But other toys get big lifts. Its just fun. I know its not for everybody, but it is for me. My 7 year old thinks its a blast too.

I think that you just have to remember that as soon as you take some thing out of a stock configuration its a never ending battle to fight the offsets in performance. Big tires need more power etc.
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-07-2010, 7:07 AM Reply   
This may sound like a strange suggestion DBC, but how about a Tahoe?

For years we had both, and the combination was great! You can pick and choose which one you need for what application.

My wife preferred the Tahoe for her daily driver/kid hauler for ease of parking and just drive-ability, and I have always owned 3/4 ton Subs/trucks as my daily work truck.

On short trips to local lakes the Tahoe would do fine, for the long haul trips up grades with more gear we would take the Sub. Occasionally, if we had more peeps and something else to tow along, we would take both!
...Best of both worlds.
Old     (extremeisaac)      Join Date: Aug 2005       01-07-2010, 10:54 AM Reply   
Ram 1500 with 37s tows like a champ, both the boat and the 23 foot toy hauler..

Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       01-07-2010, 1:01 PM Reply   
Went back and forth on which truck to buy the last 6 months. Looked at diesels, 3/4 tons, 1/2 tons, etc...Read lots of reviews, did lots of test drives.

I choose a 2010 Tundra DC with the 5.7 engine and 6spd transmission. It's got a 4.30 rear end 400ft/lbs. of torque with a tow rating of 10,300lbs.
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-07-2010, 1:25 PM Reply   
^^^ impressive stats on that truck, Patrick.

But the real question is: How will it tow 6,000 lbs. of boat & trailer up Siskyou pass with 500 lbs. of people in the cab and another 500 lbs. of camping gear in the bed?

If the answer is... truck slows down to 45mph at 4000+ rpm and tranny fuid spikes to 230 degress, then I'm not interested. I already have one of those. It's the first rig pictured in this thread.
Old     (bigjokerinthebox66)      Join Date: Aug 2007       01-07-2010, 3:28 PM Reply   
Thats a good point DBC stats mean nothing under circumstances like those. I have a CM Tundra thats lifted 6" w/37s and it tows just fine, but going up hills in the Sierras is another story. Its a turd. Don't get me wrong its nowhere near as bad as my old GMC 5.3, which was also lifted. BTY, that black tundra is a 6" suspension & 3" body. If you need to know anything about the tundra, head over to those guys are helpful. pic of mine taken with phoneUpload
Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       01-07-2010, 3:37 PM Reply   
Can't tell ya. I've yet to hook the boat up to it, but I am dying too. If I get a weekend with nice weather I will hook up the boat and put the truck through it's paces.

Our previous tow rig was a 2001 Tahoe with the 5.3 engine and it fits your description almost exactly (minus to the transmission temp)
Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       01-07-2010, 3:38 PM Reply   
JJW did you tow with it before the lift and tires?
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-07-2010, 4:26 PM Reply   
JJW - Your truck is SICK! My boat would look sweet behind that thing. What are your lift specs? Where you able to fit 37's under there with just 6" suspension lift? Have you regeared? What is your axle ratio?

Patrick - You probably had trans fluid temp issues on the '01 Tahoe, you just didn't know it. They didn't add a gauge for this until 2007.
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-07-2010, 4:40 PM Reply   
A few of my old trucks

Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-07-2010, 5:31 PM Reply   
"Patrick - You probably had trans fluid temp issues on the '01 Tahoe, you just didn't know it. They didn't add a gauge for this until 2007."

I have a trans temp gauge on my '01 Sub.
...maybe they were only on 3/4 tons, or came with trailer towing packages, or both?
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-07-2010, 5:31 PM Reply   
John, you always have the sickest trucks man, by far. In particular your F350 and that first GMC you posted. You've got some cool toys man.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-07-2010, 9:49 PM Reply   
Gotta agree with Twitch...

And, John that new profile pic is awesome.
Old     (bigjokerinthebox66)      Join Date: Aug 2007       01-07-2010, 10:10 PM Reply   
Patrick, I didn't get a chance to tow a boat behind it before it was lifted, but I towed a utility w/2k lbs and it towed it almost like it wasn't there. almost

DBC, yes your boat would look good behind it. Yeah, it's just a 6" susp. w/Nitto 37s and XD 20s. Had to trim some of the fender walls to prevent rub, but it still has a minor rub at full crank when in reverse. Would also recommend torsion bars because I had an issue that is similar to axle wrap on a diesel. Hasn't been regeared and probably wont. I drive it in sequential shift mode. axle ratio is 4.3 comes w/tow package. Truck has became invaluable as far as boat trips are concerned. cab room is insane and the sliding rear window prevents screaming and potential arguments while on the launch
Old     (rob_pitchford)      Join Date: Nov 2004       01-07-2010, 10:32 PM Reply   
07 Tundra lifted 3" with a Camburg Racing Coil over and 305 55 20 Nitto Terra Grapplers. Cant say i notice any performance loss but i did add Doug Thorley Headers, Magnaflow Exaust and a cold air intake. She is a little thursty towing 11mpg but its a gasser. Pretty happy with the Tundra and it will fit in the garage!Upload
Old     (rob_pitchford)      Join Date: Nov 2004       01-07-2010, 10:41 PM Reply   
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-08-2010, 3:34 AM Reply   
Thanks guys! To whomever pm'd me about the Furd: 8" Superlift, 20X12 Weld's, 38X15.50 Toyo's. That truck was definitely a beast, but the lift and tires killed the driveability. Leaf spring's up front so once it was lifted it really rode harsh.
Old     (unclejessie)      Join Date: Jan 2004       01-08-2010, 10:36 AM Reply   
I like the way a 4 inch lifted trucks looks and rides far better than a stock 1/2 ton. IMO, stock 1/2 tons look weak... I hate the butt end high and nose low and the tires don't look like they could evan get you through the snow. I also think my truck corners far better with the lift. It is not as smooth, but the nose doesn't pitch while you corner on winding roodes.

I went from 17 mpg HWY to 12 on my 2008 GMC 1/2 Ton when I lifted it and added tires.

Old     (trace)      Join Date: Feb 2002       01-08-2010, 12:55 PM Reply   
Camburg does not build your typical "lift kits" a la Rancho, Superlift, etc. Whole different ballgame, but the street performace will still suffer.
Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       01-08-2010, 3:39 PM Reply   
For Lifetimewarranty (and yeah I know the trailer 'legs' are down) :-)

Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-08-2010, 4:50 PM Reply   
More truck porn......
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-08-2010, 5:10 PM Reply   
LOL! Thanks patrick.

I read they modded that one a bunch for that setup.

I'm not a fan of that orange one, but they make a slick looking rig! They would be brilliant to beat the Domestics with a light duty diesel (and not try to compete with the bigger ones though). To me that would satisfy a lot of buyers.

Of course, the Suburban with the 4.5 liter Duramax would be my first pic.
Old     (flyspec14)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-08-2010, 5:17 PM Reply   
Well if were goin there:
Old     (fullspeed)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-08-2010, 5:52 PM Reply   
Check out this truck I found on CL today.

I think it looks pretty sick.
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-08-2010, 6:19 PM Reply   
The semi conversions are sick has h3ck! BUT, they ride like concrete trucks, from what I've heard.
Old     (rob_pitchford)      Join Date: Nov 2004       01-08-2010, 7:32 PM Reply   

This is the set-up I am running. To be honest I would say the truck rides amazing on the street and better than stock - very smooth ride. I run these with the Camburg upper A-Arms for 3 " of increased wheel travel, 3" lift and 3" droop. Pretty amazing set-up.
Old     (jimmy_z)      Join Date: Jun 2009       01-08-2010, 7:57 PM Reply   
One ton Toyota. 2007 SEMA.

Would be nice if they did these as a production vehicle.

Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-09-2010, 10:47 AM Reply   
Matt- Isn't that nuts! I saw that yesterday for the first time and I was blowwwnnn away. "Hows that for articulation!?" hahaha
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       01-09-2010, 11:01 AM Reply   
LOL my buddy just got done showing me that Chain link 4x4 extreme on Youtube.

I am in love with that dually on CL its my perfect tow rig!
Old     (soundbox)      Join Date: Oct 2007       01-12-2010, 9:51 PM Reply   
I believe the CL Dually is a different truck (painted grill shell, larger alcoas and amber running lights) than the one I'm thinking. If its the same truck in this picture I can vouch for it. The previous owner has a reputation of having some very nice toys and taking very good care of them. This is picture from a show a few years ago. Ferrari 360 in the trailer... Upload
Old     (pc_sledge)      Join Date: Jan 2006       01-22-2010, 5:44 AM Reply   
Larger rims look kind of cool but on a vehicle that tows, like the one ton dually above just does not make sense to me. Why would you spend all the money to get a capable tow rig and then put skinny low profile tires on it?
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-22-2010, 11:07 AM Reply   
How about this truck? 6.2L and AWD. Might look nice lifted with 35's??

Old     (jetskiprosx)      Join Date: Aug 2004       01-22-2010, 1:11 PM Reply   
The 6.2 should get the job done!
Old     (rugdr)      Join Date: Feb 2007       01-22-2010, 7:24 PM Reply   
I am not sure but I think the Denali trucks have the same all wheel drive drivetrain as the Escalade. Might want to see how much it would take to lift it before you go to far and even if there is a lift available. Just trying to help you think ahead.
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-22-2010, 8:15 PM Reply   
Dont' think you're gonna find anything right now to lift a Denali, unless you go big. FTS makes a 10" kit...


I think there were a lot of driveline problems on the AWD trucks when they were lifted.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-22-2010, 8:41 PM Reply   
Dang, John, that is cool - not that I need that kind of crazyness...
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-22-2010, 11:15 PM Reply   
That's how they do it in Brofornia.
Old     (bmr82)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-23-2010, 6:50 AM Reply   
Lift it, fat girls can't jump.
Old     (ixfe)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-24-2010, 1:47 AM Reply   
Proof that you can put a 6" suspension lift on a Sierra Denali. I prefer the white one.

Both owners report zero issues...


Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-24-2010, 3:00 AM Reply   
I never said you couldn't, just thought that someone had mentioned driveline problems before.

What's the pricetag on that truck anyway? Doesn't it MSRP for around $60K? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me, after all, it's just a truck.


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