1999 Mastercraft Sportstar 195

Looking at one of these and wanted to know if good / bad boats. I want to use it for wakeboarding and skiing for recreational use. Good enough wake? Any input will be helpful.

Clint, the sportstars are MC's entry level boat. they msrp'd @$20,000. It is the 95-98 prostar 190 hull with an open bow, not to be confused with the 205 hull. The wakes on these hulls can be made to be pretty good, it will just be narrower than a typical MC x-series. The boats are still good boats, they are just the last generation hull and interior which is still world class.

Thanks for your input. This is a '99, no trailer, no tower, has only 90 hrs. and looks in good shape. They are asking $19,000.00. From your msrp'd @$20,000, the $19,000.00 does not sound so good. I was then going to add a tower and sacks.

have have a 96 prostar 190. you definatley need weight to produce a nice wake. I run about 1200-1800 pounds. The wake is a bit narrow. adjust your line lenght to find a comfortable riding spot.

wonderful ski / sloam boat.. unless your adding a whole bunch of weight (2000lbs) the wake is not so good for wakeboarding.

there was a similar question asked here http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=30824

and folks replied with what they found worked best to dial in the wake (pics).. absolutofft looks like he has the best wake I've seen on a pro star..

clint, jason's quite a bit off on his MSRP figure, they MSRPd in the upper 20's to low 30's. I have that exact boat, the Sportstar Open Bow. I got it with 220 hours with a new galvanized trailer, zeroflex tower, and some sacs, for $17,500. Since then i've added board racks, perfect pass, depthfinder, and 2400 lb autoballast system.

Also, it is not the prostar 190 hull, which was for the closed bow boat, it is the prostar 195 hull, which is identical to the prostar 205 hull, just a foot shorter and a few inches narrower.

With the right amount of weight the boat can throw a fantastic wake. Its very similar to the x-2 (old x-star) wake, in both size and shape, as the hull is identical in design to that hull, just a few inches narrower and a little shorter. The only annoying issue is due to how narrow it is a hard cut out by a rider will tilt the boat a little, but that is more annoying for the driver and doesn't effect the wake at all.

I assume it has the 310 HP TBI engine, which for a boat its size is plenty, we have a 4 blade prop and have run full ballast (2400 lbs) and 10 people in the boat with no problem planing or holding speed.

w/o a trailer or tower, that price is sort of high, even with low hours

hope this helps

clint, be careful, some people confuse the sporstar and sporstar open bow, 2 different boats, with completely different hulls

I looked it up and it said the boat is worth 18-20K and that is with a trailer. Deduct 1500 for that and that leaves you around 17,5

yea, with a trailer that price would be "ok", given the low hours, but sans trailer that is definitely a little high

Great input but like you are saying, the price seems alittle high. Then buy tower, sacks, racks, etc. The price gets up there pretty quick.

For 19k, you could do much better. Check this one http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/8/174883.html?1087719115

Pretty sure the 195 is the same hull as the 95-97 190 hull. No difference on the hull whether open or closed bow, just a different deck. Yes, it is shorter and not as wide as the 96-2000 205. Just like the 190.....MSRP was not $20k for the open bow......the closed bow in 98 was going for that price though, not sure if it had the trailer included for that price. Also, from a interior perspective, the 2000, 2001 195's are a better fit and finish boat. My .02 cents.

i can guarantee its not the same hull, the 195 was 19.5 feet, the 190 was exactly 19 feet, not a huge difference, but it is a little wider and a half foot longer, and an open bow

as far as the fit and finish, they're all mastercrafts, yes, the vinyl and carpet are better in the actual "prostars" but in terms of build quality they are the same

I'll probably bust out my MC encyclopedia here in a minute, but off the top of my head, I really think you are not correct Tom A.

The confusion comes from there being two 19' direct drives at that time. The 'pro' star and the 'sport' star (which used to be the old 'pro' star. Sort of like the X-2 being the old x-star.

Had to check my bibles for this.

We are all a little off here. Even the title of this thread as there does not appear to ever have been a 195 in 1999. The 195 did not appear (as the open bow version of the 190) till 2000. There was not *ever* a 195 SportStar as far as I can tell. Some other MC nut help me out on this as I am sort of curious.

The family tree appears to look like this:

1998 190 (new hull)
205 (direct drive)

1999 190
205
205V
SportStar (old hull from 97 190)
SportStar Bowrider (old hull from 97 190)

2000 190
195 (open version of the 190)
205
205V
SportStar

2001 190 (another new EVO hull)
195
209 (formerly the 205 but exact same)
205V
19 Skier (formerly the SportStar)

2002 190
197 (formerly the 195 but exact same)
209
205V
19 Skier

2003 190
197
209
205V

All of them are great boats.

Grant I do believe you are correct. The sportstar was a '97 190 hull, and the 195 didn't show up until '00.

actually, when i look at it, the 2000 and 2001 Prostar 195 is the same hull as the 1999 Sportstar, which as also the same hull as the 2000 and 2001 X-5.

I know for a fact that my boat's hull is the exact same as the X-5, and that that is not the same as the older prostar 190.

the 2002 197 is NOT the 195..It was a new hull based off of the 01 190. The 95,96,97 190 is the same hull as the SportStar, X5 and 195. Sorry.

Look at my profile, it's a 197, doesn't look anything like Tom's.

i don't know who you are responding to, but i wasn't comparing anything to the 197, that is a completely different everything

but in terms of the origin of my boat, i stand corrected, i had always thought that it was based off of a prostar 195 from the mid 90's, i did not realize that it was just the 190 with a completely different cap on the hull

i think that different cap explains why they look completely different. whereas on the prostar 190 closed bow there is no rise above the rubrail, the open bow and sportstar open bow have a good 5-6 inches additional rise above the rubrail before dropping into the bow giving the boat an overall bigger appearance, oh well, still throws a sick wake with 2400 lbs

The reply on comparison was to Grant.

"209 (formerly the 205 but exact same)
205V
19 Skier (formerly the SportStar)

2002 190
197 (formerly the 195 but exact same)"

Tom, I was using our profile pics to show the obvious difference. Meant no disrespect by it.
Not sure if I am reading Grant's post the way he intended. Just wanted to make sure that people who don't know MC, realize the 197 and 209 are "newer" hull designs. Not rebadged 195 and 205's.



(Message edited by prostar205v on September 01, 2004)

The 209 is not the same as the 205. It is wider. I bought a '00 205, and was pissed when the next year they came out with the 209, because it had a lot more room in it.

yea but the wakeboarding wakes on the 197 and 209 are pathethic compared to the older hulls, which are all basically the same as the old x-star/x-2 hull.