Board mounted camera

surfdad 03-12-2009, 12:25 PM

So...I just pulled the trigger on one of these:

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surfdad 03-12-2009, 12:27 PM

I'd like to get pictures from an aerial looking down at the boat. Any suggestions where to mount it for best effect?

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-12-2009, 1:28 PM

me too comes in on friday , i did not get the surf kit , i got the suction cup mount and grab bag of mounts

(riverrunner) · (riverrunner) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 03-12-2009, 1:30 PM

I already have one and was disappointed

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 03-12-2009, 3:06 PM

Kind of big, I bet Jac could find something smaller that would work.

surfdad 03-12-2009, 4:01 PM

It's been almost 10 years, to the day, that I broke my back. I spent a week in rehab at Mercy General in Sacto. The AP wouldn't let me walk so I was confined to a wheelchair during my stay.

In the room next door to me was a young man, maybe 25 that had the same injury as myself, only his spinal chord injury was complete, so he was paralyzed from the waist down and would be for life.

Every morning we had wheelchair races down to the cafeteria to get coffee. Scaring nurses and doctors alike as we careened around corners at truly "break neck" speeds. :-)

If anyone had a reason to be negative and bitter it was that young man. He had his entire life before him and he would be relegated to a chair for all of it.

Never once did he mention anything negative about his life, or anything that I remember. Always praise and positive energy. Truly an uplifting personality and someone I enjoyed hearing from and about and I think that everyone that knows and/or knew him finds him an inspiration.

I think it's cool little toy! :-)

Where are you mounting yours brewkettle? I was thinking about placing it on the transom and getting some of those crazy angled shots.

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-12-2009, 4:18 PM

same place , i have 3 new boards to try and one old that i put a tail fin on that red/pink splash board to try on the 21'st

surfdad 03-13-2009, 7:43 PM

It needs a ton of light! The video is nice.

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(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-14-2009, 6:18 AM

And tiny , i got it yesterday with mount kit , now i have about 7 mounts to stick on the boat or wherever i want and a suction mount. cant wait to try it

surfdad 03-14-2009, 7:35 AM

Fun! Can you post pictures of the mounts, please? From what I can tell on the board, one mount will handle an orientation of 0 degrees and 180 degrees. So I am thinking that two of the FCS singles could cover a full 360 degrees.

ImaPD over at TO.com did a great job of explaining the workings for me so that I could understand it.

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-14-2009, 5:49 PM

Surfdad
ok , well i got
2 curved quick bases
4 flat bases
1 short pivot
1 long pivot
1 suction cup with long pivot
1 screw set
I will have to email you the pic , this site is limited on size

surfdad 03-22-2009, 7:32 PM

I thought the quality was pretty good. In some of the pictures, James is doing an aerial with the board perpendicular to the wake, but one of them he is backwards on an alley-oop 3. :-)

And one for all those bogus camera angles - my wake is double overhead :-)

(mhetheridge) · (mhetheridge) **Join Date: Aug 2006** 03-22-2009, 7:59 PM

The first shot and last one are my two favorites. Did you capture any video from that camera?

surfdad 03-22-2009, 8:02 PM

The video was fun too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XXHuihKgF8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alszq9Czsgc

surfdad 03-22-2009, 8:03 PM

I did Matt! :-)

I just posted it on youtube.

mobster 03-22-2009, 8:20 PM

very cool

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 03-22-2009, 8:22 PM

Jeff, you guys are having too much fun.

surfdad 03-22-2009, 8:37 PM

It's true Show. JL I thought about you as I was loading the boat. We had no idea what the angle on the housing should be so I brought my laptop and a USB cable, so that we could look at some of the pictures. As I was loading the boat I was thinking I'm some sort of JL wannabe! :-)

(wakesurf_ohio) · (wakesurf_ohio) **Join Date: Jun 2007** 03-22-2009, 9:39 PM

Thats awesome!! Aerials look so cool. How do you shoot with it.. is it on a remote or does it just shoot continuous for a certain amount of time..?

surfdad 03-23-2009, 5:30 AM

Thanks Rob! It's fun, I love the sound on the videos, no boat noise just the water and the glub, glub, glub when the board went under water. :-)

Which is why I fell so much! :-)

The camera has two modes, video and continuous shots - I think every 2 seconds. In that second video you can see James pressing the button to start the video mode.

I put a 2 gig card in it like you'd use in a regular digitial camera. I think the manufacturer indicates the 2 gigs will hold almost 2,000 stills or an hour of continuous video. It's definately a fun little device. :-)

(ollies_drew) · (ollies_drew) **Join Date: Jan 2008** 03-23-2009, 2:39 PM

Jeff, where did you order that from???

Shots look really cool

(duffymahoney) · (duffymahoney) **Join Date: Sep 2008** 03-23-2009, 2:58 PM

Those videos are so cool! Your son makes it look so so easy!

(strait_trippin)

You can get them at RDI (Rainbow Fin). I am surprised at the high quality, I think I'm gonna get one!

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-23-2009, 3:41 PM

For the stills, is there anyway to turn it to vertical to get the entire rider in the shot?

surfdad 03-23-2009, 4:13 PM

Drew - I just had this vision of you doing a shuv, a 3 shuv and then your patented front shuv with a video on the board - that would be sick!

Thanks guys, I was pretty impressed with the quality also considering it's being shot through a plastic housing moving on water.

I ordered mine through these folks:

http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=7

Literally they had it to me in a day.

dtw, the housing mounts on the bottom, so you'd have to make a special adapter to turn it sideways. The fisheye lens takes a pretty wide shot, but because it's mounted on such a short board, it doesn't quite get the entire rider in. They recommend that it be at 5'5" out, so we are missing it my almost a full foot. Maybe a small block laminated to the board with the FCS mounting plugs that would lift the camera a few inches would do the trick?

(Message edited by surfdad on March 23, 2009)

(lfrider92) · (lfrider92) **Join Date: Sep 2008** 03-23-2009, 4:14 PM

how do you tell it to take a still?

surfdad 03-23-2009, 4:17 PM

Hey David - it has two modes. No I take that back three modes. One is just like a standard digi-cam - point and shoot. The other two modes are video and then a continuous stills where it clicks off a still every - I think 2 seconds, or maybe it's 5 - anyway, you press the on/off button to select the mode and it does it's thing.

(lfrider92) · (lfrider92) **Join Date: Sep 2008** 03-23-2009, 4:20 PM

o okay. thanks jeff

(locwakeoutlawscom)

Awesome

(dbh_brad) · (dbh_brad) **Join Date: Sep 2008** 03-23-2009, 7:30 PM

Great new perspective...Love the one facing the boat.

(saceone) · (saceone) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-23-2009, 7:52 PM

awesome pictures!

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-24-2009, 2:13 PM

I would think with the way it is set up for much longer ocean boards, you would almost have to make a custom mount bracket to turn it vertical to get the entire rider in the shot. If you did that, the shots would be even sweeter I bet. Send that thing down here and I will rig something up

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-24-2009, 2:15 PM

Drew, if you get one of these cameras you HAVE to put a disclaimer on all videos...people may get sick with all the spinning.

surfdad 03-24-2009, 8:02 PM

I want to get the camera angle at 90 degrees, so decided to do the FCS plug mounting option, inside the glue on mount.

Alinging everything:

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surfdad 03-24-2009, 8:04 PM

Hole saw marked with the depth so I don't go through the bottom. :-)

surfdad 03-24-2009, 8:10 PM

Hole drilled ready for the FCS plug. I opted for the right rail box, so that the cant would allow the cam to sort of come close to being level. We'll see if it works as planned. :-)

surfdad 03-24-2009, 8:11 PM

And the plug installed and ready to go. :-)

(gwnkids) · (gwnkids) **Join Date: Nov 2003** 03-24-2009, 8:25 PM

A true surgical instrument

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-25-2009, 9:04 AM

Results please

surfdad 03-25-2009, 9:19 AM

LOL - prep the patient, I have my 1" hole saw ready - NO! WAIT, let me apply the masking tape first! :-)

Won't have a chance to go out until this weekend, if I get my chores done first. :-)

I'm hoping that we'll get a rider POV picture from an aerial like this:

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(taft) · (taft) **Join Date: Jul 2006** 03-25-2009, 11:32 AM

He's getting some good pop off that board. Damn.

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-25-2009, 12:51 PM

Uhhhhh, Dad, please if you will because I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know....What exactly are your 'chores'? Please be specific.

surfdad 03-25-2009, 12:56 PM

You're too funny. Just normal chores - I have to replace a ceiling fan in one of the bedrooms. Not a composite structure chore :-)

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 03-25-2009, 1:15 PM

Are you shaping the blades of the fan yourself though?

surfdad 03-25-2009, 1:53 PM

Yes. Here it is assembled, ready to install. :-)

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 03-25-2009, 4:48 PM

Jeff, did you make that fan out of glass or carbon. Why didn't you post up the lay up of the foils in this forum?

surfdad 03-25-2009, 8:05 PM

Nida-core and CF. You know, Show, I start posting up top secret stuff and pretty soon I see it in some NASA white paper! :-)

(caskimmer) · (caskimmer) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 03-26-2009, 8:22 AM

that's a pretty sophisticated table you got there Jeff

surfdad 03-26-2009, 8:40 AM

It looks that way, doesn't it? It's just a parting board for my attempt at making a mold. That's black tooling gelcoat over a plug. My parting board and plug have been waxed 1,123,457 times :-)

and then some PVA over that.

Next is the CSM.

Hey wardo how are you feeling? I read that you broke a few ribs! That is so painful, I do hope you are on the mend.

surfdad 03-29-2009, 7:37 PM

Kind of interesting shots.

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surfdad 03-29-2009, 7:45 PM

I think this was at the height of an aerial, just a fraction of a second later and we'd have had the boat.

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surfdad 03-29-2009, 8:13 PM

And the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8jBigiivhI&feature=channel_page

surfdad 03-30-2009, 4:46 AM

I think it was Loc that told me how to use Windows Movie Maker to get a frame grab.

I was hoping to get a still with this shot, but the likelihood of that timing is pretty remote.

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(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 03-30-2009, 5:05 AM

I see it works well

farrah 03-31-2009, 10:26 AM

Jeff,

This is so rad. Nice work!

(Message edited by farrah on March 31, 2009)

(Message edited by farrah on March 31, 2009)

surfdad 03-31-2009, 11:54 AM

Hey Brewkettle, it sure seems to do the trick.

Hi Farrah! It's good to hear from you. How are you? It seems like we haven't seen you since Nashville. The pictures and video that little camera takes, certainly are fun.

(duffymahoney) · (duffymahoney) **Join Date: Sep 2008** 03-31-2009, 12:02 PM

Here is a link to some sweet videos with a similiar system.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5191568/gopro-attached-to-surfboard-for-recording-awesome-wipeouts

farrah 03-31-2009, 5:46 PM

hey jeff!

yea i know it's been forever since summer. I'm sure we'll be seein you guys out there soon.
cant wait to see some more shots!

farrah

(leaks) · (leaks) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 04-01-2009, 9:22 PM

Hey Farrah. How you doing? When you coming back to the Bay?
(sorry for the highjack)

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 04-02-2009, 11:39 AM

Surfdad , i will get some pics and vid this weekend from mine

(dh03r6) · (dh03r6) **Join Date: Mar 2007** 04-02-2009, 11:46 AM

My god that is freaking cool. The 5th shot down is fantastic.

farrah 04-02-2009, 12:20 PM

hey gregggggg! hows it goin? probably soon, i hope. Jerry says he wants to test some boards when it gets warm and so i'll prob be there with chase soon. I'm just workin' and goin' to school down here. it's fun, but i miss home.

how are you??? We should all go ride soon!

Farrah

surfdad 04-06-2009, 8:17 PM

Popped my mold off, needs to be cleaned up and polished a little, but it looks good.

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(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 04-07-2009, 7:30 AM

Surfdad
what program are you using to edit with . i got 2.6 gigs of vid but no luck on edit???

surfdad 04-07-2009, 7:45 AM

I know NOTHING about editing software. Loc at WO walked me through capturing a still, but I'm sure I exasperated him with my PRONOUNCED neophyteness :-)

For stills, I load the image in MS Paint and go to the stretch/skew option and change it to 32% :-)

For the vids, I load it in MS Movie Maker and then I advance it to a frame that I want to capture and there is a button in the bottom right that I press :-)

That is the extent of my technical abilities in this regard.

I have never edited a video, so I'm not much help! Maybe Petr, Loc or JL can help?

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 04-07-2009, 7:57 AM

thanks

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 04-07-2009, 4:43 PM

I like Sony Vegas for video editing

(brewkettle) · (brewkettle) **Join Date: Jan 2009** 04-08-2009, 5:17 AM

Show ,
will it work with the gopro??
surfdad how about the black hole sun that the gopro gives in the vids

surfdad 04-08-2009, 7:49 AM

Hey brewkettle, is that the "eclipse" looking effect? Funny stuff. :-)

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 04-08-2009, 5:09 PM

what the hell is a gopro?

(jcocci) · (jcocci) **Join Date: Feb 2006** 04-23-2009, 5:56 AM

So is the stick-on mount worthless? Is the only way to make it work screwing the unit into the board with the mounting kit?

surfdad 04-23-2009, 7:12 AM

Hey Martin, I'm not sure I understand. Are you referring to a suction cup like mount? The first mount I show WAY above is a stick-on but it is permanent.

The camera and casing doesn't float. :-)

I know this to be a fact. :-)

I'd be reluctant to attach it without a permamnet mount and/or leash especially in water that you can't see to the bottom.

mobster 04-23-2009, 12:05 PM

For editing it is not the camera but the format you are recording ,Avi mpeg1,2,4 avchd hd dvcpro hd are all formats of video. Windows movie maker ,Premiere Elements, are basic editing programs for the pc for mac I movie or final cut pro works fine I use premiere pro just remember that less is more learn how to edit with straight cuts first do not try to impress with transitions learn your flow & pacing First. Also use the undo button for mistakes, the best way to edit is to get in front of you computer & start editing less is more on effects & tricks and slo mo ,Use good music, support your local bands & don't use music that is copyrighted or songs you hear on the radio that play alot I edit to the music cut on motion & flow . Don't try to impress with tricks use good footage and good things will happen . It's not the camera or the software it's the person behind the camera & computer I try to make it look like I never touched the footage Good footage in great video out We Are takin pre order's for Wake UP It's being pressed now Good Luck JL

(caskimmer) · (caskimmer) **Join Date: Apr 2006** 04-23-2009, 12:37 PM

"just remember that less is more learn how to edit with straight cuts first do not try to impress with transitions"
That's some of the best editing advice you can possibly get right there. KISS

"We Are takin pre order's for Wake UP It's being pressed now"
Sick, you'll be getting my sometime this week.

(notsobueno) · (notsobueno) **Join Date: Dec 2004** 04-23-2009, 10:35 PM

Surfdad....when you gonna send that camera down so I can get it REALLY working for you?

surfdad 04-24-2009, 5:11 AM

Between the lines, from my post earlier:

"The camera and casing doesn't float. I know this to be a fact."

You can come get it, dtw, and use it all you want. :-)