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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-26-2020, 6:00 AM Reply   
Is America great again yet?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-26-2020, 6:03 AM Reply   
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Serious question: Why are police not shooting live ammo at Democrat rioters who are trying to kill them?
What makes you think those idiots are political, let alone vote? You know only half of people eligible to vote do so right?
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       08-26-2020, 6:08 AM Reply   
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The Bears must have missed the 5 murdered blacks and 72 blacks shot from Friday night to Sunday , Clearly missed the other 22 blacks shot on Monday. Instead they want to prop up gun toting , girlfriend beating , rapist that’s a career criminal . Smart PR there. Must have missed this 85yr old white woman brutality attacked by blacks too .. keep emboldening them. Seems to be working.

https://cwbchicago.com/2020/08/video...-mag-mile.html


Serious wtf is wrong with this world that corporate America and professional sports are being sucked into this BS . Bet they still want police escorts on the sidelines at every game and while traveling through the states though.
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-26-2020, 7:22 AM Reply   
Why in the world would *POTUS" pay $45K for a porn stars legal fees? Thats odd, cant remember Obama paying anyones legal fees for anything. I mean Trump is married right? Says he paid off another porn chick in the 2016 election too. Just so nasty. How does one put themselves in the position to need to pay Porn stars? Why would any christian support a serial adulterer? Is that one of the commandments Christians hold sacred? One of the sacraments? 5 kids, 3 different baby mommas, cheated on each and every wife. Cheated in his business deals. Cheated in public office. Was impeached for blackmailing a foreign country. Who does he surround himself with?
Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:

Trump (Republican) ó 215

Nixon (Republican) ó 76

Reagan (Republican) ó 26

"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:

Obama (Democrat) ó 0

Carter (Democrat) ó 1

Clinton (Democrat) ó 2

"Notice a pattern?"


https://fox40.com/news/political-con...ls-legal-fees/
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-26-2020, 7:24 AM Reply   
Last minute speaker cancellation. Trumps Cancel Culture. How come? Surprise!
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20200826.html
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-26-2020, 2:29 PM Reply   
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Why in the world would *POTUS" pay $45K for a porn stars legal fees? Thats odd, cant remember Obama paying anyones legal fees for anything. I mean Trump is married right? Says he paid off another porn chick in the 2016 election too. Just so nasty. How does one put themselves in the position to need to pay Porn stars? Why would any christian support a serial adulterer? Is that one of the commandments Christians hold sacred? One of the sacraments? 5 kids, 3 different baby mommas, cheated on each and every wife. Cheated in his business deals. Cheated in public office. Was impeached for blackmailing a foreign country. Who does he surround himself with?
Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:

Trump (Republican) ó 215

Nixon (Republican) ó 76

Reagan (Republican) ó 26

"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:

Obama (Democrat) ó 0

Carter (Democrat) ó 1

Clinton (Democrat) ó 2

"Notice a pattern?"


https://fox40.com/news/political-con...ls-legal-fees/
I dont know if you info is accurate, but Look at it this way, he could have just aborted his children at birth? Well, not then, but today he could. Prob soon, we will be allowed to kill our children under the age of 18 , hang tight, i am sure its coming.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-26-2020, 2:33 PM Reply   
https://mobile.twitter.com/Minneapol...00001951453185


Police locate chase murderer who shot and killed someone earlier in day. He does everyone a favor and blows his brains out. Social media says police did it. Riots begin again. Only now MPD release video and The comments on that are priceless. Grab a shot and drink every time some BLM supporter says you can’t post this. You’ll be drunk in less than 2 minutes.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-26-2020, 3:01 PM Reply   
https://twitter.com/fox32news/status...349510144?s=21
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-26-2020, 6:57 PM Reply   
And poof. Just like that the Blake case is done , He admits to DCI investigators he had a knife in hand the entire time officers were trying to arrest him.


Bet we will see a million apologies from all the blind politicians supporting this animal . For sure Biden will be the first to apologize

https://wkow.com/2020/08/26/investig...lakes-vehicle/

Last edited by xstarrider; 08-26-2020 at 7:00 PM.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-26-2020, 11:33 PM Reply   
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So many other great speakers as well. Are you libtards even aware enough to read the wave coming? Get your long boards ready.
Only TrumpTards are impressed with all the republicants lying, Trumps approval rating goes through the roof after day three of the republican "convention", up Point One percent, that's a .001 increase, from 42.1% to 42.2%, Biggest increase in history of the World, can't wait for Trumps rally speech tonight, his approval rating will go through the roof, all the way up to 42.3%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/
Old     (bcd)      Join Date: Jun 2012       08-27-2020, 12:47 AM Reply   
Emotion:
CNN headline: Police shoot unarmed black man as his children watch from a vehicle
Facts:
Police were called to the disturbance and Blake was not allowed to be at that house
Police knew Blake had a warrant for his arrest on charges of sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct with domestic abuse that occurred at the same address where the incident happened
Police struggled with Blake before the video as shown by a second video
Police attempted to taser him
Police were yelling at him to drop the knife
DOJ confirmed he was armed with a knife
Police shot Blake as he tried to gain access to his vehicle

I agree this is a senseless shooting. If he had complied with officerís requests and not resisted arrest, he would not have been shot. Itís that simple. What do you expect to get when you are an armed felon with a warrant out for your arrest? What if Police didnít stop him from entering the vehicle? What if he didnít pull a gun out of the vehicle and shoot them (they didnít know if there was a gun in the car)? Do you think he would have just slowly and safely drove away? Or would he have attempted a high speed get away? Remember that his kids were in the back of the vehicle. What if he crashed his car and his kids were killed?

Hereís another video of police wrestling with an armed felon who breaks free and goes to his vehicle drivers side door:
https://youtu.be/-yUnT5aFygg

People are now rallying behind this piece of trash and have currently given him 1.7 million dollars on his gofundme page. Heís won the lottery twice now Ė he didnít die from the police shooting, and heís a millionaire.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-27-2020, 1:11 AM Reply   
I guess the police need to start throwing their hands up when someone resists. They need to say, oh well, he didn't want to listen to us, and then drive away.
They then need to tell the public that they need to protect themselves, because these lowlifes didn't want to comply.

If they are shot at, they need to get in their squad cars and drive away.

I'm betting that isolated events like this are coming


Can't wait for the media and extreme left to start whining about it
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       08-27-2020, 3:27 AM Reply   
Things are out of control.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       08-27-2020, 6:18 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by bcd View Post
Emotion:
CNN headline: Police shoot unarmed black man as his children watch from a vehicle
Facts:
Police were called to the disturbance and Blake was not allowed to be at that house
Police knew Blake had a warrant for his arrest on charges of sexual assault, trespassing, and disorderly conduct with domestic abuse that occurred at the same address where the incident happened
Police struggled with Blake before the video as shown by a second video
Police attempted to taser him
Police were yelling at him to drop the knife
DOJ confirmed he was armed with a knife
Police shot Blake as he tried to gain access to his vehicle

I agree this is a senseless shooting. If he had complied with officerís requests and not resisted arrest, he would not have been shot. Itís that simple. What do you expect to get when you are an armed felon with a warrant out for your arrest? What if Police didnít stop him from entering the vehicle? What if he didnít pull a gun out of the vehicle and shoot them (they didnít know if there was a gun in the car)? Do you think he would have just slowly and safely drove away? Or would he have attempted a high speed get away? Remember that his kids were in the back of the vehicle. What if he crashed his car and his kids were killed?

Hereís another video of police wrestling with an armed felon who breaks free and goes to his vehicle drivers side door:
https://youtu.be/-yUnT5aFygg

People are now rallying behind this piece of trash and have currently given him 1.7 million dollars on his gofundme page. Heís won the lottery twice now Ė he didnít die from the police shooting, and heís a millionaire.
Yep and all these idiot basketball players and football and baseball are all on the "innocent unarmed black man shot again" train. F them. Candice Owens was 100% correct. Only people they hold up are criminals.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       08-27-2020, 7:47 AM Reply   
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Yep and all these idiot basketball players and football and baseball are all on the "innocent unarmed black man shot again" train. F them. Candice Owens was 100% correct. Only people they hold up are criminals.
You should maybe try rodeo, Delta. Every one I've been to is 1000% maga certified.
Old     (DeltaHoosier)      Join Date: Mar 2018       08-27-2020, 8:28 AM Reply   
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You should maybe try rodeo, Delta. Every one I've been to is 1000% maga certified.
Never been to one even though the town I work and lived has a big national rodeo tour stop. Still more than likely will not go to one. Not my cup of tea even though we have a couple the wife's friends that are into horses.

Tired of these democrats gaslighting everyone saying that another innocent unarmed black man was killed by cops then more of you democrats going out and burning down towns and idiot democrat sports players running their mouths like this **** is true. We all know what it is. It is a marxist talking point and truth has nothing to do with it.

All my colts stuff is off the walls now. Probably pulling the trigger and getting rid of Directv this week too. Only reason I have it is for football and sports in general. Not supporting people who have decided to declare war on me and my family.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-27-2020, 8:31 AM Reply   
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Yep and all these idiot basketball players and football and baseball are all on the "innocent unarmed black man shot again" train. F them. Candice Owens was 100% correct. Only people they hold up are criminals.
true of every trump voter. You cannot separate all the felons from their master.
Cops should not be shooting people in the back 7 times. Makes the case to send other than cops to domestic disputes. Cant expect cops to do everything, to be psychologists, nannys, nurses, counselors....
Violence is exactly what Trump wants. Not sure why these fools keep getting out of control.
I appreciate the Ball players from all leagues taking a time out to try to make change. Players dont sit at the table. Coaches dont. Owners do, advertisers do. Its a start.
There is a 17 year old going to spend his life behind bars, shot at least 3 people killed two of them. All because he bought in to the BS from the Boogaloo right.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-27-2020, 9:03 AM Reply   
The REAL Violent American Haters and Racists exposed. ................oh wait doesn’t fit narrative.



https://www.instagram.com/tv/CEYIKd5...d=qkafep26lioy
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-27-2020, 9:10 AM Reply   
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Not supporting people who have decided to declare war on me and my family.
Delta is just itching for a race war, he can't wait.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-27-2020, 10:53 AM Reply   
"Me thinks" Orange Man is sitting back with 68 Days until Election day his hands in his pocket letting the Violent Left implode. I'm glad Trump did not take the Cheese in the Loony Lib Mouse Trap known as CHAZ in Portland. Those whack a do's ate them self's. Trump didn't have to lift a finger or more importantly get his chances of re election chopped off trying to restore order in that Loony lib hell hole. I hate to see Americans fighting Americans & city's burn BUT Until the loony lefts that are Looting & setting fire to our city's are rounded up and thrown in jail chaos will continue, Sorry to say but its mostly Black Youth in the Latest fake outrage. You think these $HIT BAGS care about GEORGE KURBY? or this latest retard Blake????? Hell's No they care about Foot Locker Jordan's & Flat Screen TV's from Target & Best Buy. It must be so hard to be a loony lefty these days. You know your guy is not getting Re-elected You know your gonna have 4 more years of screaming at the sky and Orange Man at the Wheel. LOL Sit back go find a safe space, Decide how you Identify?
find something new to be outraged about, Tweet about it cause we all know that your Tweet is gonna change the world, OMG LOL X10, MAGA 2020
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-27-2020, 1:02 PM Reply   
okay 95sn, what exactly should have happened with this last guy?

Known felon, agrevated assault, warrants, not supposed to be at that property, domestic violence history, that call was on a domestic issue.....

fought with police
was tazed

had a knife

didn't listen to police instruction

what exact change is the left crying for? how should THIS call have been handled.

Please don't be pie in the sky and say that a social worker should have showed up. He had warrants for violence

The guy didn't obey. He reached into his car. What if he would have grabbed a .45, pointed it from under his armpit without turning around, and killed that cop square in the face.....

just curious to hear a real solution
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-27-2020, 2:03 PM Reply   
I got to agree with Donald, Ivanka is super boneable.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-27-2020, 7:49 PM Reply   
Defund the police and keep Trump’s Federal monsters away!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure these 39 families would say otherwise.


https://theconservativetreehouse.com...not-forgotten/
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-27-2020, 8:02 PM Reply   
Just to recap the facts released to date pertaining to the BLM Terrorist Cause of 2020 that has ruined our nation .

Breonna Taylor - Bag lady and chauffeur for a criminal drug conspiracy ring , multiple wire taps , trackers , and photos and a long term investigation to prove so. Was next to a man thad admittedly discharged his firearm (Shot at) at police striking a police officer coming through the door with a valid search warrant signed by a judge for a residence involved in a criminal drug conspiracy ring

George Floyd. - Career criminal , resisted arrest, was legally under arrest when he became uncooperative , was heard multiple times yelling he couldn’t breathe even before police put hands or a knee on him. Autopsy shows Floyd had fentanyl ( a lethal drug) as well as other illegal substances in his blood , had heart disease , showed no signs of strangulation , asphyxiation , or bruising consistent with having an airway restricted from any pressure . Died from cardiac arrest induced by a combination of elevated drug levels , heart disease , and overexertion .

Rayshard Brooks - another career visitor of prison , domestic abuser , child endangerer , multiple parole violator , several altercations with police . Shot because he resisted police for a dui arrest , disarmed an officer, and discharged a weapon (taser) that could cause death or great bodily harm at a police officer in an effort to not violate his parole again and be sent back to a lengthy prison sentence

Jacob Blake - career criminal , domestic abuser, rapist , gun offender , warrants for domestic battery and the rape of a 14hr old girl in which he was being arrested for. Brandished a knife In order to make his escape from police because he didn’t want to go back to prison due to being involved in yet another domestic dispute of unlawful restraint of a female acquaintance, while wanted on warrants in which police officers were called to handle. Admits to possessing said knife to investigators .




Yup these are the Martys and heroes of the left. See the pattern ??????? These are the ANIMALS professional sports teams refuse to play in honor of , these are the trash people are burning and looting towns in the name of . The are the wastes of oxygen politicians and blm supporters are blaming police for gunning down in cold blood, These are who we’re all supposed to kneel for. I DON’T THINK SO

Such an epidemic... really. 29 Officers have been gun downed In 2020 and another 142 have given their lives for the citizens they protect. Who protested their deaths across the Nation or put their stories on repeat everywhere?
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-27-2020, 8:56 PM Reply   
The loony left would partner with Satan or Hitler if it thought that it would get Trump Out of office. So itís no surprise these people are who the left has chosen to become Heroís. Before the Roaches you listed above we had Trevon Marten ( Obamaís Son ) and who couldnít forget the ďGentle GiantĒ Michael Brown ďThe Saintď of all Roaches
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-28-2020, 1:25 AM Reply   
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The loony left would partner with Satan or Hitler if it thought that it would get Trump Out of office.
Hitler's dead and Satan is supporting Trump, so that's a pointless hypothetical.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-28-2020, 1:37 AM Reply   
“Lie 135” I guess it depends on what Satan looks like to you. To me Satan looks like Pelosi, Schumer, “the Squad“ Waters, Clinton’s, Most of Pedo-Wood, & MSM
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-28-2020, 2:29 AM Reply   
To Expand more on my (what does Satan look like to you) and how we see things differently, & why you are on the wrong side of history and why your side is gonna loose again come November.

Me: I see people looting & rioting & burning down buildings
Democrats: They See People “Peacefully ProtestIng”
Me: I see a Violent Criminal Who has broke the law & is resisting arrest & FightIng with police
Democrats See: A unarmed black man being Harassed by Racist Police.
Me: I see useful Idiots “Liberal Zombies” being programed like drones buy politicians With a false narrative set out to cause mayhem and destruction.
Democrats: They call it Morning coffee watching CNN.
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       08-28-2020, 3:01 AM Reply   
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why you are on the wrong side of history

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how long do you think we'll have to wait until there is a firm consensus on who was on the wrong side of history? Do you think in 10 years we will know? i'm honestly curious. I don't know the answer, is it 5 years? 10? 20?
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-28-2020, 3:06 AM Reply   
onlyinboards.....it depends on who writes the history books
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-28-2020, 3:37 AM Reply   
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Why you are on the wrong side of history and why your side is gonna loose again come November
You think Trump gave a very good speech last night, truth is he botched it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bot...053612520.html
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-28-2020, 5:56 AM Reply   
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Originally Posted by joeshmoe View Post
You think Trump gave a very good speech last night, truth is he botched it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bot...053612520.html
Hahahahahaha! A yahoo article (from Bloomberg no less) says Trump botched it and thatís all your tiny, Democrat brain needs to hear. For the record, no one ever doubted you take your talking points and marching orders from 538, CNN and Yahoo opinion articles. I bet the riots are peaceful too, right?

The truth is, the RNC punched a hole in the dems with their convention. There was hardly a single dud in four nights of speeches. On a side note, that fireworks show was like no other. Wow!

I loved the fact that they werenít wearing masks last night and then watching all those CNN chickens clucking about it. Never a word mentioned about masks during the non-stop Democrat riots. You libtards are so effing stupid that you think the public doesnít see right through your transparent asse$. Idiots. All of you.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 6:25 AM Reply   
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The loony left would partner with Satan or Hitler if it thought that it would get Trump Out of office. So itís no surprise these people are who the left has chosen to become Heroís. Before the Roaches you listed above we had Trevon Marten ( Obamaís Son ) and who couldnít forget the ďGentle GiantĒ Michael Brown ďThe Saintď of all Roaches
At least Trevon and Brown are Americans. And you forgot about 12 yr old Tamir Rice who cops shot because he holding a toy gun on a swing set. Yet cops were not concerned with a 17 yr old who just shot 3 people, killed 2 and was walking down the street with an semi-auto gun around his neck. Let him walk to his car and drive home. Trump partners with our enemies, Putin and Russian Gov't, Blackmails small countries for dirt on his political rivals. Surrounds himself with his own personal group of felons. If you dont like Democrats working for or with life long criminals, why the pass to trump? You like his felons more? A dirtbag is a dirtbag. Your MAGA hat is Made In China, like all trump merchandise. LOL.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 6:32 AM Reply   
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Hahahahahaha! A yahoo article (from Bloomberg no less) says Trump botched it and thatís all your tiny, Democrat brain needs to hear. For the record, no one ever doubted you take your talking points and marching orders from 538, CNN and Yahoo opinion articles. I bet the riots are peaceful too, right?

The truth is, the RNC punched a hole in the dems with their convention. There was hardly a single dud in four nights of speeches. On a side note, that fireworks show was like no other. Wow!

I loved the fact that they werenít wearing masks last night and then watching all those CNN chickens clucking about it. Never a word mentioned about masks during the non-stop Democrat riots. You libtards are so effing stupid that you think the public doesnít see right through your transparent asse$. Idiots. All of you.
Remind me what the Nielsons say, you know the thing trump cares about, lol. Could not even match a crappy video DNC.
Im sure all the people that passed covid at the event will agree with you (3 already tested positive). Bunch of old people gathering during a pandemic is such a Darwinian Trump win.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-28-2020, 7:12 AM Reply   
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At least Trevon and Brown are Americans. And you forgot about 12 yr old Tamir Rice who cops shot because he holding a toy gun on a swing set. He had a REPLICA 1911 Air Soft gun. The cops had been called because Tamir was pointing at cars. Cops thought they were responding to a active shooter situation. When orderd to show hands he instead reached for his gun. And yes he was shot For NOT following ordersYet cops were not concerned with a 17 yr old who just shot 3 people, killed 2 and was walking down the street with an semi-auto gun around his neck. Let him walk to his car and drive home. Did you see the way Kyle the 17 year old who Blasted and Killed 2 convicted sex offenders. Yes I saw the way he walked toward cops NOT away from them with his hands High in the Air “the was after he called the cops and told them He shot 3 people”. Trump partners with our enemies, Putin and Russian Gov't, Blackmails small countries for dirt on his political rivals. Surrounds himself with his own personal group of felons. If you dont like Democrats working for or with life long criminals, why the pass to trump? You like his felons more? A dirtbag is a dirtbag. Your MAGA hat is Made In China, like all trump merchandise. LOL.

95 Did you notice the difference between people that are convicted Roaches tat fight with them tend to get blasted. And people that can follow order don’t tend to get blasted or their ass kicked
95 Did you notice the difference between people that are convicted Roaches that fight with them tend to get blasted. And people that can follow order don’t tend to get blasted or their ass kicked
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-28-2020, 7:20 AM Reply   
Gotta love how they turned the white house into a cheap political prop. Winning!
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 7:24 AM Reply   
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95 Did you notice the difference between people that are convicted Roaches that fight with them tend to get blasted. And people that can follow order donít tend to get blasted or their ass kicked
Yes, ive noticed that. Not a good idea to ignore an officers directions. 100% agree and I practice that.
Lock them up, throw away the key. Just stop shooting them.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-28-2020, 7:34 AM Reply   
again. 95sn, if these guys don't want to be arrested, fight back, reach somewhere where they might have a weapon......what's the solution?
Wait until you see, identify, take a picture of a weapon?
Wait until they fire it at you?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 7:37 AM Reply   
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Gotta love how they turned the white house into a cheap political prop. Winning!
Its weird, i was actually offended by it, at first wasnt sure why....thats not supposed to happen in the USA. The Peoples house covered in campaign ads. Banana republic stuff. More cheapening of America by trump. The low energy never ending speech full of lies, definitely dictator Chit. Im sure all believe Biden is a fake Catholic and trump is religious servant, Lou Holtz.
Ratings tanked so not many people even saw it.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 8:26 AM Reply   
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again. 95sn, if these guys don't want to be arrested, fight back, reach somewhere where they might have a weapon......what's the solution?
Wait until you see, identify, take a picture of a weapon?
Wait until they fire it at you?
George Floyd was handcuffed and under control of 4 officers. Ahmad Arbray was alone, jogging in a white neighborhood when a father and son (retired cop) shot him to death from their pick-up. Jacob Blake was not armed. Tamir Rice, a 12 yr old had a toy gun in his hand while sitting on a playground swing in broad daylight. If a perp has a gun its a different game, new rules.
Its not an easy job to be a cop. You are forced to make life/death decisions in a fraction of a second. Mistakes can be made, just not this many. I read this morning there are over 1100 cops in Florida that were fired for cause from their previous station. Why? A bad cop in LA is a bad cop in FL. We need to weed out bad police. This is a part of systematic racism. No more immunity for bad cops. We need More good police. "Defund the police" is a bad moniker should have never been used. Change the way we police is more accurate. I support the Blue. I support BLM. I do not support violence, looting, rioting or roaches. Just because one is black, does not make them a roach.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-28-2020, 8:39 AM Reply   
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Gotta love how they turned the white house into a cheap political prop. Winning!
Lol says the guy whose last prez had it lit up with homo rainbow lights.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-28-2020, 8:51 AM Reply   
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Lol says the guy whose last prez had it lit up with homo rainbow lights.
Only a fool would believe a rainbow flag and a political convention are the same. Read the Hatch Act, even a drop out would understand why one is illegal. Bigotry is a terrible trait Mark, id hope it is beneath you. Every post you make prove how deep racism is in Trump America. Vote Nov 3.
Old     (grant_west)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-28-2020, 10:03 AM Reply   
LOL you bitter Dems are so pissed That Orange man is Eating your lunch,WINNING ! you loony Libs get outraged @ every opportunity. Come on! Trump having people over to the White House for the RNC, The Dude lives their!!!! It is where TRUMP lives It’s his HOUSE!!!! Simply put. He had people over to his home LOL I just love the fact that you Fools are upset by it. In fact I hope Orange Man has more get togethers at his house. Because it triggers you idiots. I loved the back drop. I loved all the flags I loved the Fireworks and I gotta Agree with Ralph & Orange Man! His Daughter is Hot!

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Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-28-2020, 10:24 AM Reply   
95sn, thanks for the response.

I also think that systemic racism is over used.

BLM is "a decent idea", but if you dig deeper....perhaps that decent side of the movement ought to change it's name.

The not so good.....read their demands. It's crazy and only promoting racism, not trying to bridge a gap. Heck, the latest that I read was that one of the founders thinks that whitey ought to give their house to a person of color.

If these guys really want to affect change, they will divorce from the radical section and offer real life solutions. Otherwise, this gets much worse before it gets better. Same holds true with the police issues.

It's like I tell my staff, family...etc.....bring me solutions, not just problems
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-28-2020, 1:11 PM Reply   
95SN

Jacob Blake was not armed ? Are completely retarded or just plain ignorant ? He was armed with a knife the entire incident you moron. Read the DCI report. BLAKE himself admits it. Geeezus f’n Christ.


George Floyd wasn’t beaten, wasn’t shot, wasn’t strangled . George Floyd escalated the situation by. Wing a POS that didn’t want to go back to prison . Police were polite , offered to roll down windows , treated him with respect and wasn’t abused by police in any other fashion except for having to being placed in a bad position because George Floyd didn’t want to go to jail. Yes Floyd did that to himself. He wasn’t murdered by police.


The Abrey case has been tight lipped on details. It’s not even fair to bring that into an argument. He wasn’t shot by police and police had nothing to do with case Abrey was a previous thief and a weapons violator. He was seen inside a construction site that was previously burglarized like several others near by . Georgia has a citizens arrest clause in their state as law . If you bring hima in then I can bring the the over 2500 cases of blacks being shot by blacks in Chicago this year. And the over 500 murdered in Chicago along with it.

Tamir Rice was a 12yr old boy that pulled out an air soft (full replica Exact spec firearm ) began pointing it at responding officers . No charges were ever filed against the police and none were convicted of any wrongdoing. Very tragic situation . However I’ve seen over 100 12-16yrnold kids in possession of real firearms committing armed robberies. A 12yr old in possession of a live firearm is not out of the realm of real life and police to have to wait to be shot at to see if it fires real bullets.


So he we go. You’re the police , seeing as how you have opinion of how they should handle things. A man just raped a 14ur old girl. You attempt to arrest him he fights , he pulls a knife , an officer attempts to tase him , no effect , he’s now a fleeing felon , WHAT DO YOU DO?

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Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-28-2020, 1:42 PM Reply   
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At least Trevon and Brown are Americans. And you forgot about 12 yr old Tamir Rice who cops shot because he holding a toy gun on a swing set. Yet cops were not concerned with a 17 yr old who just shot 3 people, killed 2 and was walking down the street with an semi-auto gun around his neck. Let him walk to his car and drive home. Trump partners with our enemies, Putin and Russian Gov't, Blackmails small countries for dirt on his political rivals. Surrounds himself with his own personal group of felons. If you dont like Democrats working for or with life long criminals, why the pass to trump? You like his felons more? A dirtbag is a dirtbag. Your MAGA hat is Made In China, like all trump merchandise. LOL.
Your blatant mischaracterization of ďtoy gun ď shows your agenda . Your also comparing a state of chaos in which police are being attacked from every side by rioters to a daily scenario. Plenty of armed citizens walk past police with their hands away from their weapons in plain view on a daily basis. Triple that in a protest scenario What details do you think the police actually had at that moment about the situation unfolding in front of them ? I can almost guarantee you zero , zippo , zilch except for the fact they heard Multiple shots , and responded in that area to arrive to our chaos . I can assure you their focus was getting to the bodies laid out in the middle
Of the street as their priority , because that is SOP . I am sure youíve been to many scenes of mass chaos over your career as an LEO and know the protocols in place ...........oh wait thatís right you have zero experience . Theyíre not getting out of their armored vehicles in a hostile environment unless itís to render immediate aid/take immediate action to save a life, or address an immediate death or great bodily harm situation. There were multiple armed people they drove by , Wisconsin is an open carry state. They wouldnít get out and interview everyone they see with a weapon, especially someone approaching them with their hands raised the entire time away from their weapon, but again your expertise and training would make that very clear ( oh wait there that thing you donít possess again). You should familiarize yourself with the way combat scenes and active shooters in riots are handled by law enforcement. Itíll help alleviate a lot of your mental retardation concerning such scenarios .
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-28-2020, 1:51 PM Reply   
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At least Trevon and Brown are Americans. And you forgot about 12 yr old Tamir Rice who cops shot because he holding a toy gun on a swing set. Yet cops were not concerned with a 17 yr old who just shot 3 people, killed 2 and was walking down the street with an semi-auto gun around his neck. Let him walk to his car and drive home. Trump partners with our enemies, Putin and Russian Gov't, Blackmails small countries for dirt on his political rivals. Surrounds himself with his own personal group of felons. If you dont like Democrats working for or with life long criminals, why the pass to trump? You like his felons more? A dirtbag is a dirtbag. Your MAGA hat is Made In China, like all trump merchandise. LOL.
Micheal Brown Robbed a convenience store. He was about to be detained by an officer for such at which time Brown reaches inside a patrol car began beating a uniformed officer , attempted to disarm said officer of his fire arm and was shot once there , he then proceeded to flee , said officer gave chase at which time Brown again initiated a physical confrontation and was subsequently shot.

Hereís the actual facts as presented in court ......... Officer Wilson acquitted on every count.
Again are you truly ignorant or just uneducated ?

Wilson just left a call involving a sick person when he heard on his radio that there was a theft in progress at a local convenience store. Wilson heard the description of the suspects and soon after observed two black males walking down the middle of the street. Wilson pulled up to them and told the two to walk on the sidewalk, and Johnson replied, "we're almost to our destination". As they passed his window, Brown said "**** what you have to say".

Wilson then backed up about ten feet to where they were and attempted to open his door. After backing up, Wilson told the two to "come here", and Brown told him in reply, "what the **** are you gonna do". Wilson shut the door and Brown approached him and he opened the door again "trying to push him back", while telling him to get back. Brown "started swinging and punching at me from outside the vehicle", and Brown had his body against the door. Wilson said the first strike from Brown was a "glancing blow", and at that point he was trying to get Brown's arms out of his face. This was when Brown turned to his left and handed Johnson several packs of the stolen cigarillos he had been holding.[126] Wilson then grabbed Brown's right arm trying to get control, but Brown hit him in the face. Wilson said he "felt like a 5-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan" while he attempted to restrain Brown when he reached through his police car window.[23] Wilson said it "jarred" him back and he yelled at Brown numerous times to stop and get back. Wilson said he thought about using his mace and his baton, but he was unable to reach either of them. He then drew his weapon and pointed it at Brown and told him to stop or he would shoot him, while ordering him to the ground.[126]

According to Wilson, Brown then said "you're too much of a ****ing pussy to shoot me" and grabbed for his gun and twisted it, pointing it at him, into his hip area. Wilson placed his left hand against Brown's hand and his other hand on the gun and pushed forward with both his arms. The gun was somewhat lined up with Brown, and Wilson pulled the trigger twice, but the weapon failed to discharge. On the next try, the gun fired and Brown then attempted to hit him multiple times inside his vehicle. Wilson shot at Brown again, but missed, and Brown took off running east, while Wilson exited his vehicle and radioed for backup. Wilson followed Brown, yelling for him to stop and get on the ground, but he kept running. Brown eventually stopped and turned and made a "grunting noise" and started running at him with his right hand under his shirt in his waistband. Brown ignored Wilson's commands to stop and get on the ground, so Wilson fired multiple shots at him, paused, and yelled at him to get on the ground again, but Brown was still charging at him and had not slowed down. Wilson then fired another set of shots, but Brown was still running at him. When Brown was about eight to ten feet away, Wilson fired more shots, with one of those hitting Brown in the head, which brought him down with his hand still in his waistband. Wilson said two patrol cars showed up approximately fifteen to twenty seconds after the final shot. When his supervisor arrived, he was sent to the police station.[126]

Wilson told detectives Brown had reached his right hand into his waistband and that the hand still appeared to be in the waistband after Brown was shot. The medical investigator at the scene of the shooting did not take any photographs and testified to the grand jury that Brown's left hand was under his dead body, near the waistband, and the right hand was extended outwards
Old     (onlyinboards)      Join Date: Oct 2014       08-29-2020, 2:14 AM Reply   
xstarrider, you have defended every police shooting. Are there any that you found were unjustified?
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-29-2020, 3:48 AM Reply   
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xstarrider, you have defended every police shooting. Are there any that you found were unjustified?
Tell me which of the BLM supercases I described above has the details incorrect ? Tell me why I and every American shouldn’t be defending those cases instead of letting our cities be burned and citizens be assaulted in the name of them ? They are 100% justified and followed the letter of the law to the T. Is there a problem with showing cases that were used to promote a racist /Marxist plan of attack America are 100% justified once all the evidence is brought forth in court of law instead of skewed completely with a 5 second social media clip and an agenda drive mainstream media ? Why shouldn’t these cases be defended ? You realize this is the precisely the reason BLM is a complete lie right?
Which one of those BLM cases above is racially charged and a blatant execution of an individual simply minding their own business, walking down the street , and attacked by racist police based on color ?


There are. Several shootings I happen to believe were bad shoots. One is Daniel Schaver in AZ. He was a WHITE man shot in hallway by officers responding to a person with a gun call. While Schaver was seen waiving around a rifle And firing a rifle in his hotel room by multiple whitenesses who called and relayed said info to police , the officers that arrived handled it poorly and their handling of the situation /tactics led to a questionable shooting. This however was just after a multiple mass shooter events of San Bernardino, Colorado Springs , Minneapolis , and Roseburg. Lots of **** things happened in that scenario. A rifle was recovered from Schaver’s hotel room but was a high powered pellet rifle. Multiple witnesses stated the man was firing a rifle , glass was broken all around as officers approached , but what went down thin the hallway I personally don’t agree with .


I also think Laquan McDonald’s shoot was a bad shoot , but not in the sense BLM did. Laquan was on a rampage , he was being chased for while by police , broke out several police windshields and slashed several police squad car tires . He attempted to car jack multiple people in order to make good escaped but failed , And began approaching a strip mall with opened businesses while ARMED with a knife. Shooting him was the only way that was gonna end. Every other mean was exhausted at that time . The issue I have is the way the round count went. The officer was 100% justified in shooting , Laquan , but the fact said officer unleaded an entire magazine and went into freak out mode while firing his weapon should’ve gotten him fired , held accountable civilly , and barred from police work. NOT PUT IN PRISON . The officer clearly lost motor function skills as he was still depressing the trigger after the gun was empty in a state of shell shock so to speak. A second officer had to assist Vandyke in lower his weapon , and getting him to understand where he was and what he was doing. Again shooting was justified , round count not , and the characteristics exhibited by the officer during that lethal force call into question his mental capacity to continue to do police work. It was not murder

There was also a recent case I can’t recal the name of at the moment , in which neighbors called officers to a home or a burglar alarm was sounding , an officer arrived and observed a individual armed inside and fired from outside the house into the home. Striking who would be the actual homeowner that was armed with a gun. Tactics there again were piss poor as were decision making. No threat presented at the time as far as I could see from the storyline would authorize the discharge of a weapon.



Yes there are cases in which officers make bad decision and should be held accountable. It’s not the epidemic it’s being portrayed to be, it also has zero to do with race. Violent encounter me with police are based off crime statistics .END OF STORY.

In 2019 there were an estimated 375 million encounters with police , 999 ended in police shooting fatalities. (0.0003percent ) , 14 were unarmed blacks ( .000004 percent) and only one of those was not attempting to resist arrest . (0.0000003 )

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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-29-2020, 4:11 AM Reply   
These idiot libtards keep setting them up so xstarrider can knock them down, one after another. Makes for some fun reading.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-29-2020, 4:16 AM Reply   
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Only a fool would believe a rainbow flag and a political convention are the same. Read the Hatch Act, even a drop out would understand why one is illegal. Bigotry is a terrible trait Mark, id hope it is beneath you. Every post you make prove how deep racism is in Trump America. Vote Nov 3.
So, you believe Trump violated the Hatch Act now? Where are the police to arrest him? Lol

So Iím a bigot now too? Oh no! Please donít tell Corn Pop!

Arenít you tired of getting your as$ kicked so bad here? You might consider a WW vacation.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-29-2020, 5:46 AM Reply   
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So, you believe Trump violated the Hatch Act now? Where are the police to arrest him? Lol

So I’m a bigot now too? Oh no! Please don’t tell Corn Pop!

Aren’t you tired of getting your as$ kicked so bad here? You might consider a WW vacation.
I didnt say the grifter violated, The bulk of the grifters natl convention was in violation. Let me educate you, police do not enforce, that is the job of the Justice Dept.
You seem proud to be a bigot. Put it on your gravestone. Nice way for people to remember who you were.
Are you the corrupt russian judge weighing in? Im not getting proved wrong in the least. I wont be vacationing til the country can get its act together and get Covid under control. Right now, looks like well over 200,000 dead by election day due to the inept policy of the grifter tenant in our WH. Over 300,000 dead by years end.
When he makes his claims to scare you about all the racism and violence and mob rules...remember who is in charge, who is fanning the flames. Remove the problem, Vote and Evict Nov 3.
Old     (ord27)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-29-2020, 10:31 AM Reply   
wow. we just don't see the world the same way....
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-29-2020, 11:31 PM Reply   
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95sn, thanks for the response.
I also think that systemic racism is over used.
If these guys really want to affect change, they will divorce from the radical section and offer real life solutions. Otherwise, this gets much worse before it gets better. Same holds true with the police issues.
It's like I tell my staff, family...etc.....bring me solutions, not just problems
I don't have a solution, but why are there so many chithole cities in America? The Truth is it is Not the fault of the liberal government like the republicans would like you to believe.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-30-2020, 4:24 AM Reply   
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I don't have a solution, but why are there so many chithole cities in America? The Truth is it is Not the fault of the liberal government like the republicans would like you to believe.
Really ??????because just about every ****hole , crime infested city has been a stronghold for multiple decades of democratic leadership . One would think if they had the correct vision 10 yrs of control would be plenty to turn things around let alone 30-40yrs.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-30-2020, 5:23 AM Reply   
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I don't have a solution, but why are there so many chithole cities in America? The Truth is it is Not the fault of the liberal government like the republicans would like you to believe.
Typical libtard response. You fools donít have any sense of cause and effect. You rule 95% by emotion, with no critical thought put into most of your policies. On top of that, you donít actually care about the people or the problems. You only want to make sure you obtain and keep power.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-30-2020, 5:34 AM Reply   
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I didnt say the grifter violated, The bulk of the grifters natl convention was in violation. Let me educate you, police do not enforce, that is the job of the Justice Dept.
You seem proud to be a bigot. Put it on your gravestone. Nice way for people to remember who you were.
Are you the corrupt russian judge weighing in? Im not getting proved wrong in the least. I wont be vacationing til the country can get its act together and get Covid under control. Right now, looks like well over 200,000 dead by election day due to the inept policy of the grifter tenant in our WH. Over 300,000 dead by years end.
When he makes his claims to scare you about all the racism and violence and mob rules...remember who is in charge, who is fanning the flames. Remove the problem, Vote and Evict Nov 3.
Keep talking out of both sides of your mouth. It suits you. Also, your bigot name calling has lost all of its teeth like most insults from libtards. You and your party have played that one out and made it meaningless. Even the members of Blexit will tell you that. Youíre proven wrong every time you post here. Lately, itís xstar whoís putting the embarrassing beat down on you. Your Kung flu stats arenít even valid. Everyone knows weíre being played by your msm. Try talking to a doctor or nurse and ask them how big of a scam this is. As for racism and violence, the OVERWHELMING majority of people committing it are democrats and they are fanning their own flames, thinking itís gonna create change.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-30-2020, 5:37 AM Reply   
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Really ??????because just about every ****hole , crime infested city has been a stronghold for multiple decades of democratic leadership . One would think if they had the correct vision 10 yrs of control would be plenty to turn things around let alone 30-40yrs.
Yep. Look what Rudy did in NYC when he held the reins.
Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       08-30-2020, 7:05 AM Reply   
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Really ??????because just about every ****hole , crime infested city has been a stronghold for multiple decades of democratic leadership . One would think if they had the correct vision 10 yrs of control would be plenty to turn things around let alone 30-40yrs.
30-40 years?, No, 50 years, they were pretty much chithole cities in 70's.
So, with your line of thinking the Republicans destroyed Columbus, Ohio from the year, 1972 to the year 2000, 28Years! because there was always a Republican Mayer there during that time, or I am sure Cincinnati is a chithole city because there was always a Republican Mayer there from the early 50's to 1972, 18 Years! Did the republicans make Cincinnati a chithole city? No, the Truth is it is Not partisan problem, no matter what republican (Donald Trump) says.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-30-2020, 7:26 AM Reply   
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Keep talking out of both sides of your mouth. It suits you. Also, your bigot name calling has lost all of its teeth like most insults from libtards. You and your party have played that one out and made it meaningless. Even the members of Blexit will tell you that. Youíre proven wrong every time you post here. Lately, itís xstar whoís putting the embarrassing beat down on you. Your Kung flu stats arenít even valid. Everyone knows weíre being played by your msm. Try talking to a doctor or nurse and ask them how big of a scam this is. As for racism and violence, the OVERWHELMING majority of people committing it are democrats and they are fanning their own flames, thinking itís gonna create change.
Splain yourself Lucy, The RNC/TNC held at the WH is against the law. Sec. of State violated Hatch Law, as did Chad Wolf and many others. Is that incorrect? Speak up. If you think there is nothing wrong with "Homo Rainbow Flag", put it on a sign and walk down the street. Bigot.
Ever since Trump came down his escalator and said Mexicans were rapists and murderers the countries racial problems have gotten worse. Am I wrong? Do you think they are getting better? This is trump rallying the base. You think "Trump cruises" , "patriots" driving around with guns at protests will quell the violence? A 17 yr old is already in jail for murder, proving Trump vigilantes will cause MORE harm, more violence, more death. This will get worse and the buck stops with the one in charge calling the shots. You trying to say Covid isnt real, that there are not 180,000 dead, over 200,000 by election day, we made that up? Fact check me! Thinking like you say, people that wear masks are "chicken". WTF?, explain yourself. Im not chicken, im a Patriot for doing what needs to be done for the betterment of our Country. You? Your actions/words are those of one who plan to make matters worse, of a trump bootlicking card carrying cult believer, fool. Zero rational thought, 100% emotion. Intelligent people know who is being played by "their " media. Keep that TV locked on FOX. Refuse the voice of reason. logic, blind faith in a TV station, God wants a word with you and he is not happy with the choice of worshipping false gods. This is trumps America, What he built... full of hate, violence, economic disparity, the worlds laughing stock. Even the ratings, trumps measuring stick, show the writing is on the wall. Pick where you want to plant your flag. Our door will not be open forever. Be careful, winners write history.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       08-30-2020, 9:32 AM Reply   
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Splain yourself Lucy, The RNC/TNC held at the WH is against the law. Sec. of State violated Hatch Law, as did Chad Wolf and many others. Is that incorrect? Speak up. If you think there is nothing wrong with "Homo Rainbow Flag", put it on a sign and walk down the street. Bigot.
Ever since Trump came down his escalator and said Mexicans were rapists and murderers the countries racial problems have gotten worse. Am I wrong? Do you think they are getting better? This is trump rallying the base. You think "Trump cruises" , "patriots" driving around with guns at protests will quell the violence? A 17 yr old is already in jail for murder, proving Trump vigilantes will cause MORE harm, more violence, more death. This will get worse and the buck stops with the one in charge calling the shots. You trying to say Covid isnt real, that there are not 180,000 dead, over 200,000 by election day, we made that up? Fact check me! Thinking like you say, people that wear masks are "chicken". WTF?, explain yourself. Im not chicken, im a Patriot for doing what needs to be done for the betterment of our Country. You? Your actions/words are those of one who plan to make matters worse, of a trump bootlicking card carrying cult believer, fool. Zero rational thought, 100% emotion. Intelligent people know who is being played by "their " media. Keep that TV locked on FOX. Refuse the voice of reason. logic, blind faith in a TV station, God wants a word with you and he is not happy with the choice of worshipping false gods. This is trumps America, What he built... full of hate, violence, economic disparity, the worlds laughing stock. Even the ratings, trumps measuring stick, show the writing is on the wall. Pick where you want to plant your flag. Our door will not be open forever. Be careful, winners write history.

You are not a patriot, you are a socialist. you are not American. Your party in not American, the pre democratic party, is dead. you and those who believe in what you believe are absolulty not American. The entire concept of America, is freedom, liberty, independence. and the pursuit of one sum. All. you want to destroy all things American. So yes, you are a Patriot, but not for this country. We fled Europe to get away from what your party wants. How can that be American. and how can yo be a patriot. as you want to destroy everything that makes us what we are.

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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-30-2020, 9:48 AM Reply   
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The entire concept of America, is freedom, liberty, independence. and the pursuit of one sum.
Nothing more open minded than telling another american they don't count as american unless you approve of their thinking. Merica, the land of hypocrisy.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-30-2020, 9:50 AM Reply   
And you might want to brush up on your definition of socialist. It's not what you think it is, it's certainly not what the republicans is telling you it is.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-30-2020, 10:41 AM Reply   
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You are not a patriot, you are a socialist. you are not American. Your party in not American, the pre democratic party, is dead. you and those who believe in what you believe are absolulty not American. The entire concept of America, is freedom, liberty, independence. and the pursuit of one sum. All. you want to destroy all things American. So yes, you are a Patriot, but not for this country. We fled Europe to get away from what your party wants. How can that be American. and how can yo be a patriot. as you want to destroy everything that makes us what we are.
Im not a socialist Doug, im a capitalist, check my record. I run business. I am 100% proud American. What exactly is un American about supporting the 1st Amendment? Denouncing violence and hate? Trying to help the country beat a pandemic? Whats un American about that? How am i against Freedom? Liberty? Independence? How is wearing a mask to help America stop Covid not the one goal of our country today? We have 180,000 dead. Seems not doing your part would be un-American, isnt that right? They only thing i try to destroy is racism and inequality. Explain how that is Un-American. Are you saying Racism is American, I shouldnt fight it? What Do YOU STAND FOR? Define Freedom. Define Liberty. This is your chance to explain how Im un-american in my belief.
None of what i say or do us Un-American, IMO. I think you may be getting some bad info, check your source. The democratic platform is in print, read it. (it wont be what trump says, because he lies) What they are in favor of, what they will try to do. Just like the last 200 years. The republicans failed to have a policy for the 2020 RNC. Why? What is the republican party platform? Shouldnt be hard they print one every 4 years like clockwork. The republican party is RADICAL Right. They are the one s changing, not playing by the rules. Look it up. The platform is "Trump". Dont you see that as maybe just a little UN-American? Look it up, I wish you could tell me i am wrong. Explain to me how kneecapping the USPS just before an election is a good plan to help america vote. Who does stuff like that? The United States of America is not a person. WAKE UP, VOTE.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-30-2020, 10:59 AM Reply   
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Tell me which of the BLM supercases I described above has the details incorrect ? Tell me why I and every American shouldnít be defending those cases instead of letting our cities be burned and citizens be assaulted in the name of them ? They are 100% justified and followed the letter of the law to the T. Is there a problem with showing cases that were used to promote a racist /Marxist plan of attack America are 100% justified once all the evidence is brought forth in court of law instead of skewed completely with a 5 second social media clip and an agenda drive mainstream media ? Why shouldnít these cases be defended ? You realize this is the precisely the reason BLM is a complete lie right?
Which one of those BLM cases above is racially charged and a blatant execution of an individual simply minding their own business, walking down the street , and attacked by racist police based on color ?


There are. Several shootings I happen to believe were bad shoots. One is Daniel Schaver in AZ. He was a WHITE man shot in hallway by officers responding to a person with a gun call. While Schaver was seen waiving around a rifle And firing a rifle in his hotel room by multiple whitenesses who called and relayed said info to police , the officers that arrived handled it poorly and their handling of the situation /tactics led to a questionable shooting. This however was just after a multiple mass shooter events of San Bernardino, Colorado Springs , Minneapolis , and Roseburg. Lots of **** things happened in that scenario. A rifle was recovered from Schaverís hotel room but was a high powered pellet rifle. Multiple witnesses stated the man was firing a rifle , glass was broken all around as officers approached , but what went down thin the hallway I personally donít agree with .


I also think Laquan McDonaldís shoot was a bad shoot , but not in the sense BLM did. Laquan was on a rampage , he was being chased for while by police , broke out several police windshields and slashed several police squad car tires . He attempted to car jack multiple people in order to make good escaped but failed , And began approaching a strip mall with opened businesses while ARMED with a knife. Shooting him was the only way that was gonna end. Every other mean was exhausted at that time . The issue I have is the way the round count went. The officer was 100% justified in shooting , Laquan , but the fact said officer unleaded an entire magazine and went into freak out mode while firing his weapon shouldíve gotten him fired , held accountable civilly , and barred from police work. NOT PUT IN PRISON . The officer clearly lost motor function skills as he was still depressing the trigger after the gun was empty in a state of shell shock so to speak. A second officer had to assist Vandyke in lower his weapon , and getting him to understand where he was and what he was doing. Again shooting was justified , round count not , and the characteristics exhibited by the officer during that lethal force call into question his mental capacity to continue to do police work. It was not murder

There was also a recent case I canít recal the name of at the moment , in which neighbors called officers to a home or a burglar alarm was sounding , an officer arrived and observed a individual armed inside and fired from outside the house into the home. Striking who would be the actual homeowner that was armed with a gun. Tactics there again were piss poor as were decision making. No threat presented at the time as far as I could see from the storyline would authorize the discharge of a weapon.



Yes there are cases in which officers make bad decision and should be held accountable. Itís not the epidemic itís being portrayed to be, it also has zero to do with race. Violent encounter me with police are based off crime statistics .END OF STORY.

In 2019 there were an estimated 375 million encounters with police , 999 ended in police shooting fatalities. (0.0003percent ) , 14 were unarmed blacks ( .000004 percent) and only one of those was not attempting to resist arrest . (0.0000003 )

For the record I was not defending these people. I was just curious if you felt there were bad shoots as well.
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-31-2020, 2:34 AM Reply   
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For the record I was not defending these people. I was just curious if you felt there were bad shoots as well.
Copy that .
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-31-2020, 4:17 AM Reply   
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Im not a socialist Doug, im a capitalist, check my record. I run business. I am 100% proud American. What exactly is un American about supporting the 1st Amendment? Denouncing violence and hate? Trying to help the country beat a pandemic? Whats un American about that? How am i against Freedom? Liberty? Independence? How is wearing a mask to help America stop Covid not the one goal of our country today? We have 180,000 dead. Seems not doing your part would be un-American, isnt that right? They only thing i try to destroy is racism and inequality. Explain how that is Un-American. Are you saying Racism is American, I shouldnt fight it? What Do YOU STAND FOR? Define Freedom. Define Liberty. This is your chance to explain how Im un-american in my belief.
None of what i say or do us Un-American, IMO. I think you may be getting some bad info, check your source. The democratic platform is in print, read it. (it wont be what trump says, because he lies) What they are in favor of, what they will try to do. Just like the last 200 years. The republicans failed to have a policy for the 2020 RNC. Why? What is the republican party platform? Shouldnt be hard they print one every 4 years like clockwork. The republican party is RADICAL Right. They are the one s changing, not playing by the rules. Look it up. The platform is "Trump". Dont you see that as maybe just a little UN-American? Look it up, I wish you could tell me i am wrong. Explain to me how kneecapping the USPS just before an election is a good plan to help america vote. Who does stuff like that? The United States of America is not a person. WAKE UP, VOTE.
What you are is a completely full of $hit, emotional wreck. Where do you even get the crap you post? Honestly, you sound mentally ill. Youíre also an idiot if you believe we have 180K dead from Kung Flu.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-31-2020, 5:15 AM Reply   
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What you are is a completely full of $hit, emotional wreck. Where do you even get the crap you post? Honestly, you sound mentally ill. Youíre also an idiot if you believe we have 180K dead from Kung Flu.
Typical, zero content other than emotional whining. How many have died from Covid and the grifters incompetence? Is there a "trump number" now? Alternative facts?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-31-2020, 5:25 AM Reply   
Is Q your source for fake Covid info Mark? Is it a trump tweet that got erased?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...hs/5678300002/
Old     (skiboarder)      Join Date: Oct 2006       08-31-2020, 5:38 AM Reply   
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What you are is a completely full of $hit, emotional wreck. Where do you even get the crap you post? Honestly, you sound mentally ill. Youíre also an idiot if you believe we have 180K dead from Kung Flu.
They are dying from something. There are about 200K excess deaths this year so far in the US.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       08-31-2020, 6:18 AM Reply   
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They are dying from something. There are about 200K excess deaths this year so far in the US.
Perhaps they are dying from TDS?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       08-31-2020, 6:20 AM Reply   
no shame

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/30/2...an-manipulated
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-31-2020, 11:06 AM Reply   
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Is Q your source for fake Covid info Mark? Is it a trump tweet that got erased?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...hs/5678300002/
About 10K. Check the cdc website yourself. It says 94% of Kung flu deaths occurred because of other causes. Also, check out ANTIFA.com and see what happens. That’s pretty much all you need to know about Biden.

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Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-31-2020, 11:11 AM Reply   
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Perhaps they are dying from TDS?
Like you? How long has the doctor given you to live and how long until you get your testicles back?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-31-2020, 11:14 AM Reply   
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About 10K. Check the cdc website yourself. It says 94% of Kung flu deaths occurred because of other causes.
How do you explain the excess deaths if not COVID related?
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They are dying from something. There are about 200K excess deaths this year so far in the US.
200K excess deaths? How many of those deaths were caused by the fallout of the lockdowns?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-31-2020, 11:20 AM Reply   
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200K excess deaths? How many of those deaths were caused by the fallout of the lockdowns?
How does a lockdown kill you? I would expect a lockdown would repress deaths because much less traffic on the road and much less transmission of flu? What's the balance on the other side of the score card? Suicide? People not getting cancer treatment?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-31-2020, 11:26 AM Reply   
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How do you explain the excess deaths if not COVID related?
Can you explain the number of shooting deaths in Chicago?

Does anyone die from the regular flu any more? Where did all those people disappear to? With extremely few exceptions, the only people dying directly from Kung Flu are ones like John-with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. In other words, just because a death gets called Kung Flu related, itís not reliable for reasons discussed plenty here in the past. Hospitals get paid more by calling it Kung Flu related. I donít believe the stats given for that reason as well as other reasons. Iíve learned a lot from nurses we know. This has been a crock of 95sn from the beginning.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-31-2020, 11:33 AM Reply   
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How does a lockdown kill you? I would expect a lockdown would repress deaths because much less traffic on the road and much less transmission of flu? What's the balance on the other side of the score card? Suicide? People not getting cancer treatment?
Yes. All of that and so much more.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-31-2020, 11:39 AM Reply   
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Yes. All of that and so much more.
What else?
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