06 Liquid Force Minx, Sphynx and Transits..

evo900 07-27-2005, 2:31 PM

(denverd1)

damn those are sick. no closed toe in 06 from LF?

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 07-27-2005, 2:47 PM

I swear I had some Air Jordans circa 1988 that looked almost identical to the Sphinyx.

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 07-27-2005, 2:50 PM

Bingo!

(buzz_grande) · (buzz_grande) **Join Date: Mar 2004** 07-27-2005, 2:52 PM

Me like!

socalgrl79 07-27-2005, 3:54 PM

I love the Minx! Sweet!

260searay 07-27-2005, 4:05 PM

Those are sweet. I still like my 05 Sphynx though.

wickedwake 07-27-2005, 4:10 PM

Maybe the Team's replacement will be closed toe?

260searay 07-27-2005, 4:19 PM

I dont understand the closed toe...what is the reason for it?

enellos 07-27-2005, 4:47 PM

Wait and see my friends. Let me assure you that you ain't seen nothing yet. Those still don't represent our high end bindings. Enough said.

LF rep.

260searay 07-27-2005, 4:50 PM

I thought the transits and the sphynx are high end?

(kawaik) · (kawaik) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 07-27-2005, 5:08 PM

i hope that by high end you don't just mean closed toe because that seems kinda poor to me. since it is LF i have high hopes.

(loudontn) · (loudontn) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 07-27-2005, 5:11 PM

Eh, they're nice but I'd have to say I prefer the '05 Sphynx

(kawaik) · (kawaik) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 07-27-2005, 5:16 PM

i didn't think bindings could get any more comfortable than my 05 transits, maybe more durable but for comfort i loved the feel of the transits.

(malibuboarder75)

I dont like the 06 color schemes, definately better 05 colors.

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 07-27-2005, 5:54 PM

Strat, maybe you can tell us the benefits of closed toe.
We're starving for that info.

(justinstephens)

http://www.liquidforcefilms.com/videoclip/tease.mov

(snead) · (snead) **Join Date: Jul 2001** 07-28-2005, 7:17 AM

Was that the Paris Hilton Video?

wickedwake 07-28-2005, 7:34 AM

that is what i saw too?

(wakebrdrnc) · (wakebrdrnc) **Join Date: Mar 2004** 07-28-2005, 7:47 AM

Do any of you know when these will be available for purchase?

(iamnathanhudson)

what the hell was that justin? way to provide great insight on the convo!

(skibum69) · (skibum69) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 07-28-2005, 8:10 AM

That was so grainy it was hard to get any detail out of that. This one's better.
http://www.liquidforcefilms.com/videoclip/my_name_earl.mov

(justinstephens)

You guys are funny...

(scott_a) · (scott_a) **Join Date: Dec 2002** 07-28-2005, 9:39 PM

my bindings are closed toe. they work great on my wakeskate.

there seems to be a lot of overly complicated bindings out there nowadays. id say over half the bindings ive sold this summer at the shop have been alphas. im kinda bummed that they went the way of the FAST system

(liquidmarcus) · (liquidmarcus) **Join Date: May 2004** 07-29-2005, 9:26 AM

Jason the clip doesn't work

(skibum69) · (skibum69) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 07-29-2005, 9:45 AM

got taken off, iff you look at http://www.liquidforcefilms.com/videoclip only the tease movie is listed now

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 07-29-2005, 11:17 AM

is that the wakeboarding labrador again?

now if they would remove that stale filter and add some color we would be in business.

enellos 07-29-2005, 3:36 PM

I do mean Closed Toe plus on one pair and much more. Try easier to get into and WAY lighter (almost two pounds). Benifits of closed toe, obviously it'll be a preference thing, but the biggest benifit that I see is that you have more leverage on your heal side edge, because when you are edging into the wake, your toes will no longer be pointing straight up to the sky, they will now be pressing against your boot helping you to control and edge harder. Are most of us riders going to notice that, probably not. But Shane's new bindings are SO comfortable and COOL looking those benifets aren't going to matter much. It is definitly another huge breakthrough in wakeboard technology.

(scott_a) · (scott_a) **Join Date: Dec 2002** 07-29-2005, 7:27 PM

jason- find that video in your temp internet files and post it up here!

enellos- so what youre saying is that very few people are going to notice the benefits of the boot, but its ok because it looks super neato?

(kawaik) · (kawaik) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 07-29-2005, 7:34 PM

does the easier to get into and lighter apply to all of the bindings or just shane's and are his boots going to be the top of the line of liquid force?

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 07-29-2005, 9:47 PM

I love how wakeboard products are not built to work anymore... Just sell and look cool.

For some companies at least.

(justinstephens)

SoCalrider...You have no idea what you are talking about my friend...There are a lot of people that put their hearts and souls into these products in order to make wakeboarding more fun and comfortable, specifically for people like you. It would be really easy to just slap something together instead of working 16 hour days, away from our families...

skatie 07-30-2005, 8:50 AM

right on justin, and thank you!

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 07-31-2005, 11:08 PM

People put their hearts and soul into many things my young grasshopper. I would like to see heart and soul put into a product that will make someone ride better, or will last all season without warranty problems.... not just look cool. If these close toe'd boots will do that...GREAT!
Tell me/us how they will.

PS You make fantastic videos my friend.

(skibum69) · (skibum69) **Join Date: Aug 2004** 08-01-2005, 6:11 AM

Sorry Scott, check my temp files, it's not their anymore.
The new close toes look even more like moon boots than my LE Teams.

(Message edited by skibum69 on August 01, 2005)

(markj) · (markj) **Join Date: Apr 2005** 08-01-2005, 7:10 AM

I cant decide if they look really cool, or like my sister's roller skates back in 1982.

wickedwake 08-01-2005, 7:32 AM

.......

I hope that isnt the color scheme they are going with...

(fbroen) · (fbroen) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 08-01-2005, 7:44 AM

The little cinch handle holder look like a good idea. My laces have a great ability to lodge themselves inside the boot.

(phantom5815) · (phantom5815) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 08-01-2005, 7:46 AM

I'd hate to think what that boot will smell like after a few days on the water.

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 08-01-2005, 11:23 AM

it will probably smell like it looks..........

corkyswx2 08-01-2005, 11:36 AM

those shanes are something... cant wait unitl surf expo so i can ride 'em!!

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 08-01-2005, 11:48 AM

the black Watson's look better, and they are open toed.

(rootc) · (rootc) **Join Date: Aug 2002** 08-01-2005, 12:28 PM

The liner on those boots look very similar to a snowboard boot liner.

r_dub 08-01-2005, 12:55 PM

When I see the closed toe binding, the first thing that comes to mind is a boot filled with water. I hope they drain well!
Not knocking them until I try them. But that is my first thought.

chavezychavez 08-01-2005, 1:12 PM

enellos:

No 'breakthrough' has been made. Closed toe has been done before, and it was scrapped.

Don't come on here spouting about breakthroughs until you do some homework.

Just a note I don't want nor need an open toe. I have lost more toenails than I can count due to my big toe hitting the top of my (snow)ski boots. Pretty much one a year every year that I have skiied. I don't need that to transfer over to the water thank you very much.

Justin:

Sorry bro, but LF has done very little but increase the "bling" factor in bindings and steal other companies ideas.

I am glad to hear they shaved weight this year as this was a major problem with the 05 line.

If it is any consolation, your target audience (wallys) will most likely come in droves to buy this stuff.

Maybe next year you guys will focus on your board lines? Maybe?

Do yourselves a favor though, and fire the 13 year old that chose the asthetics for this year's line.

(Message edited by chavezychavez on August 01, 2005)

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-01-2005, 1:52 PM

The magnet lace idea is very cool. When water hits them I'm sure they will pop off but in theory, cool. They probably have tested and made this not happen. I always have laces hanging all over.

(justinstephens)

WHEW...Thats too bad you feel that way...I guess that everyone is entitled to their own opinion though, oh well...Sorry that you get so fired up on belittling others, especially LF.

Justin

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 08-01-2005, 1:58 PM

Wow, Chavez. Missed your post until I read Justin's response.
Did Tony Finn beat you up in the third grade?

(dakid) · (dakid) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 08-01-2005, 1:59 PM

don't mind chavez...he's riding cwb's jock right now.

jk chavez.

for the records, i'm on '05 lf teams (which imo are 200% better than the cwb zeus), and looking to get on the '06 marius (which imo pops better and lands much, MUCH better than the lf substance).

enellos 08-01-2005, 3:43 PM

Let me restate and explain my point on why these boots are such a break through compared to anything else you have ever seen. Take a look at the picture of the Shane Boot above. Look at the inside liner. It's more like a snowboard boot, super easy to slip in (Hands free slip in) with no pinching points on the sides. Also more secure around your ankle. Also, where is the hardware, it's not there making the binding almost two pounds lighter. I'm not saying that this boot is for everyone, I'm just saying that I don't think you will find a more comfortable and suportive binding anywhere. Having already tried these bindings, I don't think it is the type of binding that you are going to loose your toenail on. but good luck with that. As far as the graphics go, you may not like them, but this is Shane's boot, and it reflects Shane. By the way, we haven't even talked about the base plate. You'll just have to wait and see for yourselves if you believe in our product. All I can say is, when the product hits the market, get out and demo it for yourselves. Don't take our word for it. Let yourself be the judge and let me know what you think.

(justinstephens)

Very well said Strat...HI-5...

chavezychavez 08-01-2005, 4:13 PM

Joe - and its why I ride a Absolute, but still rock my CD's. All about preference. You know as well as I that I could be riding any of the CWB bindings right now, but I am not. I have tried them all save the low end models.

enellos - my CD's have no pinch points, do not require slime, and fit my leg like a glove due to the high wrapping snowboard style upper. They are very light, there is no extra hardware, and the baseplates do not flex. My only complaint is that the laces are a pain, but once I am in, I feel like I am wearing comfy shoes.

- Sure sounds like my CD's are a whole lot like what you just described. -

Anyhow, why don't you guys tell Chris to get me a pair to test, and if it 'blows my mind' then I will retract what I have said. I am an average rider, and if this product can help the helpless (me), then you are on to something.

As for the rest of my post above - Justin knows where I stand. No need to repeat it here.

wickedwake 08-01-2005, 4:26 PM

The Watson....Will def be rocking these next year...

(wakeworld) · (wakeworld) **Join Date: Jan 1997** 08-01-2005, 5:44 PM

I've removed the pics of the Shane boot because those were early prototypes that are not what they will be releasing. Here is what Liquid Force had to say...

"Someone took unauthorized pics of it [Shane's boot] at our sales meeting...That was an early prototype and since then the boot has had a MAJOR overhaul...We don’t want to show incorrect product and have it reflect poorly on us and Shane."

P.S. I accidentally deleted the Sphynx from the original post as well. Sorry about that.

(scott_a) · (scott_a) **Join Date: Dec 2002** 08-01-2005, 5:58 PM

"As far as the graphics go, you may not like them, but this is Shane's boot, and it reflects Shane." it can reflect shane all it wants. if nobody likes it then nobody will buy it. what good is a pro model that doesnt sell?

nonetheless i am interested in knowing how the binding will attach to the board. hopefully sooner or later you will get bored of hyping this whole thing and just tell us.

oh and p.s. apparently shane's bindings wont actually look like the pic on wake.au? thats what cam from that site said on the other site.

(dakid) · (dakid) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 08-01-2005, 9:12 PM

quote:
if nobody likes it then nobody will buy it.

it's got shane's name on it...it'll sell. look at parks' board and bindings...not the best in the world, but they sell.

enellos 08-01-2005, 9:58 PM

To all who like to argue, I'm not trying to hype it up. I'm just stating, out of all the bindings I've seen and riden, this is hands down the sickest binding IN MY OPINION. I do feel when it hits the market I won't be the only one with these feelings by a long shot. I'll say it again, when they come out, go to your local dealer and see them for yourself. As far as the baseplate goes, its small, strong, lightweight and very innovative. It's hard to explain, just check it out when it comes out. The binding is going to be a little wilder than most people like, but it does have Shane's name on it. As you can see IMO it's not the only great binding that we are going to offer this year.

(toolfan) · (toolfan) **Join Date: Jul 2003** 08-02-2005, 6:39 AM

holy crap, I just realized something. Nobody has..................GIMMICK!

jhair 08-02-2005, 7:48 AM

I have a question for the guys who have ridden the new Shane or Watson boots (or even the old Collective Development ones). That snowboard style ankle wrap looks like it would be really comfortable and supportive. It also looks like you'd be pretty much locked in once they were snugged down. Are they actually going to release in a hard fall (like the Transits do)? Has anyone given them the "faceplant test?" :-)

roxy_babe 08-02-2005, 7:51 AM

i like the minx in pink i want them for on an LF Angel 130! i know Melissa Marquardt uses them!

chavezychavez 08-02-2005, 9:07 AM

Joe - I have ridden CD's for years. After a few painful mistakes, you learn how to appropriately tighten them so that you can release when necessary.

Hopefully the painful mistake does not include a broken or sprained ankle.

Anyhow, enellos, I can respect that.

LF is going to get one hell of a run for their money from the other manufacturers though.

enellos 08-02-2005, 10:28 AM

True, competition is always stiff. Thats good for those of us who just want to see better product. As far as releasing from the Shane's, I do have first hand face plant experience on them sad to say. I did release all the way out. I haven't ridden Shawn's boots yet, but I imagine, that you'll come all the way out of those on a bad fall as well. They will be a little higher and stiffer in the ankle area.

(kawaik) · (kawaik) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 08-02-2005, 2:35 PM

i want me some watsons or something. when do i get to start blowing paychecks again?

(jonm) · (jonm) **Join Date: Jan 2002** 08-02-2005, 4:01 PM

Just don't ditch the ultras. I like the fact they cant break and I can just slip them on. These new bindings seem to take forever to put on. A buddy came out with me with some CD's last weekend and it took him like 10 minutes to get them on. + he kept banging the board into my boat. No thanks.

I would not want to come out of any of these new boots because I know if I do it will be with an ankle injury. If you are going to make them like snowboard boots, go all the way and make them so we don't come out of them.