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Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-16-2007, 8:04 PM Reply   
Is it true? I heard he stomped one this last weekend at BroStock. Can anyone confirm?
Old     (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-16-2007, 8:12 PM Reply   
That is very impressive. How many people have land one of those?
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-16-2007, 8:13 PM Reply   
None!
Old     (wakemitch)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-16-2007, 8:18 PM Reply   
that would be really sick. alliance would have been all over this if it happened though. they usually post something the day a new trick is landed.
Old     (closedtoe)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-16-2007, 8:22 PM Reply   
Congrats to him if he did land it. I have heard of a few occasions that he got really close and I wouldn't be suprised if he was the first one to land it.
Old     (crracer)      Join Date: Nov 2003       07-16-2007, 8:31 PM Reply   
I believe he landed it or a TS BS five for sure out at Powell's brostock. He was stoked on whichever it was! He and Watson were celebrating right after his barefoot run. I believe i got a shot of the tailend of the spin. Its in the gallery included in the Brostock article on the main page.
Old     (dyost)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-16-2007, 9:00 PM Reply   
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Collin Wright has done one before. It was in WBM if I remember right.
Old     (hawkeye7708)      Join Date: Feb 2007       07-16-2007, 9:04 PM Reply   
thas crazy man
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-16-2007, 9:18 PM Reply   
Dustin. I don't think so. We've had this discussion several times.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       07-16-2007, 10:37 PM Reply   
Colin has done a Heel BS 7 off the wake no double up. As long as Shane's doesn't look like his heel BS 7, all corked and flailed out. I think it would be cool to see one controlled and flat spun.
Old     (dlwsrider)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-17-2007, 12:14 AM Reply   
your not spinning a toeside backside 7 flat, but i do agree that it would be sick
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-17-2007, 12:26 AM Reply   
Jeff W has been doing HS BS 7's off the wake. Not sure if a TS BS 7 is possible, if Shane has landed one maximum respect.
Old     (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-17-2007, 3:28 AM Reply   
So there is no confirmation on this?
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 6:58 AM Reply   
LOTS of guys do Heel Back 7s. Nothing new there.

Back to the thread....I heard it took place in California this last weekend. Someone had to of seen it! I heard it might also be on film.
Old     (bflat53212)      Join Date: Mar 2003       07-17-2007, 7:22 AM Reply   
Shane has been trying O/A TS BS 7 off the d-up for at least a couple of years now. I wasn't aware that he had never landed one before.
Old     (brhanley)      Join Date: Jun 2001       07-17-2007, 8:16 AM Reply   
I don't know, Relentless was on Fuel a while back and Collin Harrington was spinning flat t/s backside 5's off the wake and double pretty easily. If someone focused on them, they'd go down. People don't, though, probably for the same reason that lots of people that can do 3's, 5's, 7's on this site maybe can't do t/s b/s 180's or 3's == because it's only a 3 or 180 so why not do a 5 or 7 or 9? On a side note, I think a heel b/s 9 would be pretty sick. Just my opinion.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 8:34 AM Reply   
I think people do focus on them, and the trick is just very difficult. Trevor Hansen has been trying them for a couple of years, and it sounds like Shane has too.
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-17-2007, 8:40 AM Reply   
A couple years ago at a PWT stop, Shane got booted on a double up and did a TS OA BS 5. He went so big on it that he completed the 5 with about 4 feet of air left, and he literally had to stop his spin, causing him to be jarred into a front flip on landing. If he had anticipated the kick, he could have taken it to 7 easy. I'm sure he has seen the video, so if anyone would have the confidence to try them, it would be him. I think it has to be off axis, leaving Shane and Harf as the best contenders.
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       07-17-2007, 9:38 AM Reply   
In 12 honkies, I think parks did a ts oa bs 5. All I could think of is how no one has taken it to 7 yet. Same goes for bs 9s.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 12:41 PM Reply   
Dave!!

Call up Shane and see if it's true.
Old     (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-17-2007, 12:52 PM Reply   
I'm not supposed to tell you who, but I saw someone do a Switch Heelside Backside 5 w/ an up grab, that was sick.
Old     (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-17-2007, 12:54 PM Reply   
wait hold on, i saw Andrew do a TS BS OA 9.
Old     (shon_g)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-17-2007, 12:59 PM Reply   
Yes he did it at lake Oroville on Saterday the 14th. It was done of the DU.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 1:32 PM Reply   
Trevor, Rusty throws a switch back 5 in The Butter Affect.

To my knowledge, no one has done a BS 9, HS or TS.

Shon, thanks for the confirmation!

I can't believe this hasn't blown up! A new trick, (THE LAST OF THE 7s), has been landed.

Congrats to Shane.
Old     (wakecis)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-17-2007, 1:52 PM Reply   
alliance mag - randall interview - wrapped ts bs 7. pre-dates shane's. past the 2nd wake - very intense.
Old     (malibuboarder75)      Join Date: Jan 2004       07-17-2007, 2:08 PM Reply   
Wrapped is a whole different story, still impressive.
Old     (wakerider111)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-17-2007, 3:04 PM Reply   
in a way, wrapped is just as hard as handle passed, because it is harder to cut in the wrapped position and the spin is a bit different
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       07-17-2007, 3:09 PM Reply   
Trevor, I know who did that Switch BS 5, I heard everyone was landing new 5s that evening.
Old     (magellan)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-17-2007, 3:14 PM Reply   
Couldn't disagree more Jeremy.

Highly doubt Shane made a toe back 7. If he did, it would be far larger news.
Also, I will be more impressed if someone lands it on axis than off.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 3:24 PM Reply   
Magellan, I've heard from two sources that were at Lake Oroville when it happened. A photographer who will remain unnamed at this time apparently has footage of it.

Keep your eye on the headlines.
Old     (morty)      Join Date: Oct 2006       07-17-2007, 4:44 PM Reply   
Charles, I am sorry but you are incorrect, it is a wrapped ts bs 5. He takes off toeside and lands heelside. It is still a crazy sequence. Trevor I also know who that was, I was told there were five new fives landed on July 5, that is crazy.
Old     (morty)      Join Date: Oct 2006       07-17-2007, 4:53 PM Reply   
Look at the little write up about Shane's ts bs 7 in the what's up section on the opening page of alliancewake.com
Old     (trippin132)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-17-2007, 5:53 PM Reply   
just a tidbit of information for you guys (not that i would ever say a kicker at cable is the same or comparable to a boat)
but an aussie cable rider sam 'bobo' collins has so far stuck two seperate toeside backside 900s off cable kickers...
Old     (hawk7)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-17-2007, 6:05 PM Reply   
yes they were sayin all 5 landed new 5's on the 5th. Andrew's TS OA BS 9 is in the book.
Old     (wallaced)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-17-2007, 6:39 PM Reply   
Guys,

I'm here to confirm that Shane did in fact land the TS BS 7... it was the sickest thing I've seen in person! We were soooo stoked to see him stick it! It went down during BROstock at Lake Oroville this past weekend... Daniel Doud was driving the D-Up for him and Spencer Smith got the sequence from the boat. Mike Ennen got it on film with Collin Harrington's camera. It'll definitely be out there later this week... the team has just been on the water shooting all week and hasn't had any contact with the real world. Shane worked so hard on that trick... we're all stoked that he finally stuck it!

Don W.
Old     (jordanrs)      Join Date: May 2007       07-17-2007, 6:40 PM Reply   
Shane did land the 7. If you look over on the Alliance site they have it confirmed there.
Old     (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-17-2007, 7:04 PM Reply   
congrats to shane then!
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-17-2007, 9:54 PM Reply   
Nice!

Trevor: TS BS OA 9?? Show me where it is. I would like to see that.
Old     (mossy44)      Join Date: Oct 2001       07-17-2007, 10:18 PM Reply   
trevor....i agree with Jrod. If nobody has landed a TS BS 7, how did andrew already land a TS BS 9?

also, i am kind of confused on this whole "yes they were sayin all 5 landed new 5's on the 5th"

new 5's??? please explain. i dont understand. thanks
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-17-2007, 10:20 PM Reply   
Trevor, sorry man, there's no chance in hell Andrew landed a TS BS 9 (nor will anyone for a long, long, long, long time). I've never seen him land a toe off 5, and I have pretty much all the videos he's ever been it. He's not really known for his toeside backside spinning.

Anyway, will most agree this is more impressive than the TS 1080's and right up there with Danny's HS?
Old     (wakecis)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-18-2007, 5:37 AM Reply   
i realized after posting randall's sequence was a 5, not a 7. the size and intensity was insane though!
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-18-2007, 6:56 AM Reply   
"He's not really known for his toeside backside spinning. "

Yep.

"Anyway, will most agree this is more impressive than the TS 1080's and right up there with Danny's HS?"

Absolutely. It's the last 7 to be landed for a reason. I know a lot of big time riders that don't even fo TS BS 180 and 360s.
Old     (scottyb)      Join Date: Sep 2002       07-18-2007, 7:05 AM Reply   
My respect for Shane just went way up. That is the trick I have been wanting to see forever. I am sooo stoked to hear this. Whatever video this is in I will buy.
Old     (morty)      Join Date: Oct 2006       07-18-2007, 8:29 AM Reply   
Matt, there were five guys in one boat that each landed a five they had never done before, including a switch backside five.
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-18-2007, 9:08 AM Reply   
J-Rod, my roommate spins like a top (all 8 180's--including the absolute best TS BS 180's I've ever seen, pros included--7 360's, and 5 540's...he's basically a poor man's Colin Wright), and everytime he stomps a TS BS 360 or a switch TS BS 180, I go crazy. Usually, the people in my boat look at me like I'm an idiot. Unless you've been riding for a long time, you just don't understand the difficulty of toeside backside spinning. I can barely do a toe back 5 on a trampoline. A 7 on the water is unreal.
Old     (westcoastripper)      Join Date: Sep 2005       07-18-2007, 10:20 AM Reply   
randy does ts bs 7s wrapped with a melon grab. witnessed it and i was in the boat
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-18-2007, 10:35 AM Reply   
4 Reel...Prove it!

Jeff, Evan Brown also does a perfectly popped, slow, TS BS 180. He is the only guy I ride with that pulls it off. Even the more technical riders I know ((guys doing Mobes) don't even try. Props to anyone doing anything TS BS.

Switch TS BS is a whole nother level!
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-18-2007, 10:36 AM Reply   
4 Reel...no disrespect, but a lot of people already have mistaken RH's 5 for a 7.
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-18-2007, 10:49 AM Reply   
I've been trying TS BS 180's, and they're just ugly...and scary. Even people who can do them rarely make it look good. It's one of my favorite tricks if you can manage to look fluid. My roomy started grabbing nuclear on them (pre-pass), but stopped when I told them his looked better ungrabbed (there's literally no wasted body movement or any flailing or hucking; it's all arms, handle, and head "falling" into it on the way down). Unless you're doing a Lyman-esque melon poke after the pass, it's one of the few tricks that looks better ungrabbed when done correctly.

Shane's toe off BS 5 is crazy sick (along with Harf's), so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an off 7. Now I just need my other two dream tricks to be landed: a HS BS 9 and a HS BS 5 on a skate (I'm looking at you, Henshaw and Reed).
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-18-2007, 11:00 AM Reply   
Oh yeah, and for the record, I frickin' hate my roomate. He just got a consistent switch TS wake jump this summer. The first time he went w2w, he went right back over and did a switch TS 180, followed by a swith TS 360 on the next jump, then a switch TS 5 on the next, and a switch TS BS 180 the same set. All first attempts, all stomped. It took all I had not to kill him.
Old     (brhanley)      Join Date: Jun 2001       07-18-2007, 11:08 AM Reply   
I'd like to see the t/s b/s 7 spun flat first. Not to discredit Shane's great accomlishment, but I think a flat spin would be harder on this trick. I'd put a t/s b/s 7 on par with a heel 9, but not sure I'd equate it to a 1080 and certainly not the h/s 1080 (there's one, possibly two extra handle pass on the h/s 10 for one thing). It is personal preference, though, as I could stick t/s b/s 180's long before h/s f/s 5's (I still fall more often than not on those, but am fairly consistent on the t/s b/s). I've thought about, but been unable to even try t/s b/s 3's...can't imagine doing a 7...crazy.

I still think the reason this is the first time someone has done it is at least partly because people often chase the higher rotation (5,7,9,10) before doing a technically harder, but lower rotation trick (such as t/s b/s). I know it influences my thinking and, judging by the lukewarm response on here compared to when Danny/Rusty landed the 10, I think it likely influences others....That being said, those in the know understand that a t/s b/s 180 is likely harder than a t/s f/s 5 and most 3's.
Old     (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-18-2007, 11:10 AM Reply   
I remember Parks' stock (while he was hurt) tour run two years ago had a melon/method TS BS 180.... Always looked forward to it every tournament
Old     (jcv)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-18-2007, 11:30 AM Reply   
BCH, I totally agree a flat BS 7 would be harder than off axis, but I also think the only way to make a TS BS 7 look good would be off axis. Flat would be impressive for sure, but it would look pretty fugly.
Old     (shon_g)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-18-2007, 11:51 AM Reply   
I was at Brostock the day he landed it and I am pretty sure it was a flat spin. I did not see it but was told buy the other riders and a Photographer there with LF to document the trip it was a flat TS BS 7.
Old     (bflat53212)      Join Date: Mar 2003       07-18-2007, 1:08 PM Reply   
"randy does ts bs 7s wrapped with a melon grab. witnessed it and i was in the boat"

Like previously stated it's a 5 and it's wrapped, not at all the same.

*off-topic warning************
That's one aspect about Randy's riding I don't like. I know a lot of guys out west still liked wrapped tricks, but I just don't. Regardless if you can grab longer, to me they look ski-boardish, which is why I'm surprised there embraced by a lot of riders on the west coast....maybe I'm wrong.
*back on-topic*********
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-18-2007, 1:18 PM Reply   
I agree to an extent, but really, it's just the cut into the wake that is wrapped.
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       07-18-2007, 3:27 PM Reply   
I too like a handle pass better then wrapped.
Old     (chris_williams)      Join Date: May 2007       07-19-2007, 10:21 AM Reply   
However you can grab the trick the longest feels/looks better to me.
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       07-19-2007, 10:54 AM Reply   
Props to Shane..... That's a huge trick to put down in the history books.
Old     (richd)      Join Date: Oct 2003       07-19-2007, 5:31 PM Reply   
Where's the video of Shane's?

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