Radar Wakeboards

(breadbutta) · (breadbutta) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 01-14-2006, 10:57 AM

Anyone ever heard of this?

No speculation please, I'm looking for facts on this.

(wakespecialty)

you'll need to tell me what you heard before i openly share what i know

(madchild1) · (madchild1) **Join Date: Mar 2005** 01-15-2006, 9:07 PM

i'm with wake specialty on this one.

(dakid) · (dakid) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 01-15-2006, 9:09 PM

i could tell you, but then i'd have to kill you.

(purana182) · (purana182) **Join Date: Jun 2003** 01-16-2006, 9:37 PM

well here is the thing, no one is really supposed to know about it. You yourself have to have some sort of friend in the industry to have even heard that name. The only real reason i can come out and say anything about it now is becuase they are releasing their advertisments and print adds tomorrow. It should be the biggest thing to hit wakeboarding since Finn slashed it up in the carlsbad lagoon. The idea behind this company is the beginning of a new sport and will change boats, boards, boots, everything from here on out. I have had the oppurtunity to speak with some of the representatives in the executive department of theses new baords and the ideas and places they are taking this company is unbelievable. Then i got a chance to ride one and really see what it is all about, and i honestly couldn't say enough, i mean those of you who know me know what i have been riding for the past three years and the belief i held in the company and the board i rode, so for me to up and change is a big deal. But i tell you what, these new hover boards are unbelievable, i mean to float over water and allow you to fly through the wir is something i did not see coming. Radar hover decks will definately be the next craze. I myself have already bought my entire family and frieds one, i mean common, a hover board, not only are they the most pop any wakebaord has ever scene, but i can ride behind a jeep to work, skate into clock towers, and take them around town with my auto dry jacket. I can't wait until i get my personal bull dog hover baord in the mail, it will be insane. i hope you all get your own and enjoy the new technology

(kingskrew) · (kingskrew) **Join Date: May 2004** 01-16-2006, 9:43 PM

Shh, don't tell anyone i took this pic....

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 01-16-2006, 10:11 PM

From what I hear it is the next company that the Obrien family is going to run into the ground..

I always thought those hover skateboards were bad as hell in Back to the Future.

(wakestar8878) · (wakestar8878) **Join Date: Oct 2003** 01-17-2006, 8:57 AM

"From what I hear it is the next company that the Obrien family is going to run into the ground.."

If you don't have anything nice to say...

(jarrod) · (jarrod) **Join Date: May 2003** 01-17-2006, 9:05 AM

He always has something stupid to say.

(madchild1) · (madchild1) **Join Date: Mar 2005** 01-17-2006, 10:06 AM

how can socalrider say something like that? i guess ignorance is bliss....

(andy_nintzel)

Mad Child- I agree OBRIEN rules they are doing great stuff for he sport, ignorance is blissless.

(madchild1) · (madchild1) **Join Date: Mar 2005** 01-17-2006, 11:51 AM

yeah. i guess what socalgoon fails to see is that if it weren't for the obrien family...

THERE WOULD BE NO WAKE INDUSTRY.

mendo247 01-17-2006, 11:57 AM

HATER IN DA HOUSE!

I wish i could run a company into the ground half as good as them..

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 01-17-2006, 3:47 PM

Megellan, you have no idea what your talking about, Herb was (and will be again) a pionner in this sport we all love. Paul is one of the best team managers there is, ask anyone who has every riden for him!!!!!! The man has passion for this sport. When the truth finally comes out you can eat your words

(breadbutta) · (breadbutta) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 01-18-2006, 5:03 PM

Those who place the name Radar will realize the possible impact of this. From what I hear all current employees/reps are transitioning over.

Randy, Tell us the 'truth'. (I know, I know, I can't handle the truth)

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 01-18-2006, 5:46 PM

Bruce, there is a lot of attorney BS involved & friends trust that can't be broken right now, but the real story will be told. There are a lot of false rumers out there right now so don't believe everything you hear just yet.

(eaglejackson) · (eaglejackson) **Join Date: Oct 2004** 01-19-2006, 12:43 PM

For what it's worth, the domain radarwakeboards.com was created on 03-AUG-05 and registered to:

High Output Sports
1465 Charlotte Road
North Vancouver, B.C. V7J 1H1

Last Updated on: 14-DEC-05

(Message edited by eaglejackson on January 19, 2006)

(partydock17) · (partydock17) **Join Date: Apr 2004** 01-19-2006, 6:15 PM

Nothing on that link...

Danny T.
WWW.OKCBoardShop.COM

(socalwakepunk) · (socalwakepunk) **Join Date: Dec 2002** 01-19-2006, 6:43 PM

Nothing on that link... YET

(zride) · (zride) **Join Date: May 2001** 01-19-2006, 10:16 PM

Do a google Search for High Output Sports on google. You'll find they are looking for a system admin. It also says that the company is up and nationaly growing and that they have three retaill stores in Vancouver called "The Boardroom". It is also coincidence that the initials for High Output are H.O. aka Herb Obrien. Hmmmm. Is this something?

(Message edited by zride on January 19, 2006)

(zride) · (zride) **Join Date: May 2001** 01-19-2006, 10:20 PM

Maybe High Output Sports is Herbs thing and Radar wakeboards will be Pauls thing. I could be completely wrong but it seems right.

dlaw_2005 01-19-2006, 10:22 PM

High Output Sports just happen to be the Canadian distributor for HO/Hyperlite and long time associates of Herb's. As a matter of fact one of the brothers who own it came up with the term we all use today for our favorite sport "wakeboard."

(zride) · (zride) **Join Date: May 2001** 01-19-2006, 10:23 PM

Man they are going to take over from design, to manufacturing, to production, to retail distribution. This could be far feched but would be crazy. The are capable of great things and whatever avenue the take they got my support. Peace out

(wakerider900) · (wakerider900) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 01-19-2006, 10:38 PM

Maybe we should give them more credit, and they will have better names then this?

(audiopro74) · (audiopro74) **Join Date: Jun 2005** 01-19-2006, 11:14 PM

just logged on to www.radarwakeboards.com
Found links to all the major manufactures. If there is more, Than someone please tell.

(electricsnow) · (electricsnow) **Join Date: May 2002** 01-20-2006, 10:41 AM

d-law, one of the frasiers have been given credit for coining the term "wakeboard" but I have physical evidence that the term existed in the 60's for a board that was made specifically for riding behind the boat. the act itself was called wakeboarding, straight up, and the board itself was called a wakeboard.

So it's kind of funny that people try to take credit for something like that. But whatever.

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 01-20-2006, 10:43 AM

Agreed chef..
Kind of like CC and the tower.

(madchild1) · (madchild1) **Join Date: Mar 2005** 01-20-2006, 11:47 AM

Kind of like CC and the tower.

that's my favorite!!!!! HAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

(Message edited by madchild1 on January 20, 2006)

(wakeworld) · (wakeworld) **Join Date: Jan 1997** 01-20-2006, 11:57 AM

From the August 1966 issue of Mechanix Illustrated. Sorry for the bad scan, but it's pretty old.

(wakestar8878) · (wakestar8878) **Join Date: Oct 2003** 01-20-2006, 12:05 PM

Is that Joey from Friends?

(magellan) · (magellan) **Join Date: Feb 2003** 01-20-2006, 12:07 PM

That's impossible..
Hyperlite came up with the term wakeboard. It says it in their brochure.

(breadbutta) · (breadbutta) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 01-20-2006, 1:38 PM

Shawn, Ha! Classic WakeWorld humor!

Yea, that's him in his ill-fitting wetsuit 'wakeboarding'. Remember, your tool should be sharp!

(stephan) · (stephan) **Join Date: Nov 2002** 01-20-2006, 3:34 PM

So does that mean that every single Hyperlite picture won't be from Radar Lake? That's incredible. I have gotten so sick of seeing that stupid lake in every single GD magazine. Over it! Or perhaps another fine marketing ploy by the O'brien family, damn you Herb, you've done it again!

(wakestar8878) · (wakestar8878) **Join Date: Oct 2003** 01-20-2006, 3:39 PM

Stephan did you forget your meds again?

(zride) · (zride) **Join Date: May 2001** 01-20-2006, 3:40 PM

hey big heavy,
dude I have personally rode Lake Radar. It is bad ass. I am telling you that there is a reason why that lake is in every mag. Because it is the shizzzzznit! I did it in Feb. with snow on the banks. Almost got hypothermia but well worth the opportunity. I dream of having that exact lake in my backyard one day. :-)

(stephan) · (stephan) **Join Date: Nov 2002** 01-20-2006, 3:51 PM

No doubt it is a pretty lake, but I'm just so tired of seeing it. The thing isn't that big so all the pics look the same. I have friends who have ridden it as well and they said it was pretty nice, just a big private lake. Anyhow, I am ranting but I am sick of seeing it.

(guido) · (guido) **Join Date: Jul 2002** 01-20-2006, 4:06 PM

I actually kinda agree with Stephan. Not a bad lake, but it was refreshing to see the '06 HL shoot was in the florida keys. That was part of what killer "Welcome" for me. I can only take soo much of the same footage.

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 01-20-2006, 4:45 PM

Dave,

I grew up in Toledo Ohio. There’s a lot of fiber glass industry in Toledo with companies like Owens Corning and such. Our neighbor split off from the large companies and opened his own small shop.

One thing that he made was fiberglass surfboards with a Cypress Gardens emblem built into the board. Cypress Gardens was using his boards in their water sports shows. My dad bought one of those boards. I line-rode this board behind my dads boat when I was only 8, back in 1968. My dad tried to get my oldest sister to wake surf behind his little 55 HP, 16 foot Startcraft. The boat was too small, feather light, we didn’t use ballast, and we didn’t know what we we’re doing so after a few attempts they gave up. Seeing the picture above I’m guessing that he got the idea from my neighbor and his Cypress Gardens customer.

I don’t know if Cypress Gardens used my neighbors surfboard exclusively or not, but the one in the photo looks about the same. My neighbor offered a pretty good warranty, apparently too good. Too many boards came back for repair or replacement and he eventually got out of the board business.

Well I don’t know what that photo did for all of you, for me it was a trip back in time.

(zride) · (zride) **Join Date: May 2001** 01-20-2006, 5:19 PM

You know right stephen (big heavy)....that was the only pic they used for advertisement....but man that lake is awesome....but your right overkill on exposure...lol

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 01-20-2006, 6:13 PM

My son got to ride at Radar last summer with some of the HL guys, he couldn't stop talking about it as the most fun he ever had wakeboarding, yeah it's a small lake and a whole vid of it gets boring I agree. That said, some of the best riding/sliding footage I have seen (Harf's nuke moby dick, sick) has been shot there, and everyone I know that has had a oppertunity to ride it say it's a special place.

(electricsnow) · (electricsnow) **Join Date: May 2002** 01-20-2006, 7:36 PM

Dave, I own that article as well (which would have been one of my sources)!

(breadbutta) · (breadbutta) **Join Date: Dec 2003** 01-23-2006, 4:52 PM

Since Herb owns the lake I assume we won't be seeing any more Hyperlite boards on it.

blind5 01-29-2006, 6:03 PM

i heard a rumor that the board company will be called square 1 and the ski side will be called radar, but you know about rumors

(dakid) · (dakid) **Join Date: Feb 2001** 01-31-2006, 8:14 PM

i heard two new companies are starting this year; square 1 and ink boards. i have no idea if or which is going to be the o'brien's new line.

(lzyboy) · (lzyboy) **Join Date: Jun 2001** 02-01-2006, 7:20 AM

I also heard radar will be the Ski line, nothing bout the wake side yet but appears things are starting to come together. Obviously it's gonna be a long road & uphill battle but if anyone can come through it would be Paul & Herb, only time will tell....

Lzy

(jro) · (jro) **Join Date: Sep 2002** 02-08-2006, 8:26 AM

Alright, I got the scoop on what's going on. Here is a list of casualties thus far.

Herb Obrien
Paul Obrien
Brian Gardner
Chris Sullivan
Mike Ferraro
Their head Board designer
Their head Binding Designer

There are only 2 presses left in the factory and the factory is just a warehouse now. HO has turned into a "Warehouse and Marketing Company" (Source withheld for now).

Basically what happened was that Herb sold his stake in HO about 2 and a half years to Bob Archer, with a 2 year buyback. When Herb went back in June to buy them back, Bob declined to sell. You can say that a lot of people were upset. So the mass exodus begun.

Herb and any employees that left were given an 18 month non-compete. The new company will start up in about 16 months. The company will be called SquareOne. the ski division will be called Radar. A name for the wake division has not been decided yet. Herb has said that when the non-compete ends, he will be getting all of his old HO reps back. Should be an interesting couple years.

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 02-08-2006, 6:00 PM

Cunning, isn't this info G-2 classified?

blind5 02-08-2006, 6:57 PM

the factory has just been a warehouse for a while now, like about a year

jibber13 02-08-2006, 7:05 PM

the non-competes where taken away for all but sullivan on your list
you've left out many other key players that "crossed the tracks"
bob's boys are in otown with the check book wide open trying to stop the bleeding!
only time will tell

(mpayette) · (mpayette) **Join Date: Sep 2004** 02-08-2006, 7:09 PM

Here is the info from WHOIS request:

Registrant:
High Output Sports
1465 Charlotte Road
North Vancouver, B.C. V7J 1H1
CA

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: RADARWAKEBOARDS.COM
Created on: 03-AUG-05
Expires on: 03-AUG-06
Last Updated on: 14-DEC-05

Administrative, Technical Contact:
, domains@hosportscanada.com
High Output Sports
1465 Charlotte Road
North Vancouver, B.C. V7J 1H1
CA
604-985-3933

This domain has been bought from....HO Canada ;)

(partydock17) · (partydock17) **Join Date: Apr 2004** 02-08-2006, 7:38 PM

Intersting...

Danny T.
WWW.OKCBoardShop.COM
WWW.WakeboardOklahoma.COM

(jro) · (jro) **Join Date: Sep 2002** 02-09-2006, 9:40 AM

Sorry but your wrong about the non-compete. There are 16 months left on it.

jibber13 02-09-2006, 11:38 AM

wanna bet?

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 02-09-2006, 12:22 PM

I think we should chill and stop with all this rumer BS, that is non factual and wait for David Williams interview with Paul to set the record straight.

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 12:52 PM

You guys are worse than a sewing circle!

(jro) · (jro) **Join Date: Sep 2002** 02-09-2006, 1:02 PM

I don't really care that much. I told you what I heard from a very very reliable source. If it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want.

zcarnage 02-09-2006, 1:46 PM

Are any of us at liberty to name our sources? How about the 17 year old kid from Newark?

jibber13 02-09-2006, 1:47 PM

cunning
your source must be chillin with the "reliable source" that bush used for iraq! the only one on your list that has one is the boot guy
your friend and source
clay

(jro) · (jro) **Join Date: Sep 2002** 02-09-2006, 2:33 PM

I won't name names but the guy was one of the first HO/Hyperlite reps ever employed by HO and still is.

(antbug) · (antbug) **Join Date: Jul 2004** 02-09-2006, 3:11 PM

Do you feel really cool that you know this secret info and you're spreading it all over the web?

Why don't you just take the info given to you by your "reliable source" and keep it to yourself.

I hate how people think they are all cool cause then knew 1st or think they know. WHO CARES!!!

carry on...

jibber13 02-09-2006, 3:17 PM

cunning
joe knows the deal
he's got 15 left and is feeling the pain
ask him which rider told tim yesterday he was done 8/1/06
still your friend
clay
ant-relax we're having fun!

(trojanman) · (trojanman) **Join Date: May 2002** 02-09-2006, 3:57 PM

Clayton - your 17 years old... be careful who you tell to relax. And hopefully as you get older, your sense of "FUN" will evolve into keeping your mouth shut and taking part in more productive debates then "who knows what!!"

You have said what is relevant to this discussion, but this rediculous he said she said, I know, and Im the only one in the world that knows the truth attitude needs to be dropped.

Go out and ride!

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 4:00 PM

I'm with Ant! All this gossip without one shread of substantial information. Being involved in this industry for as long as I have, I can say only one thing that is FACT. You guys are full of it. This thread makes me laugh. It's like a car accident. You can't help but look!

jibber13 02-09-2006, 4:02 PM

he started it! i just wanted to clear it up
i would like to but we're going to get a big storm over the next few days
you old farts need to chill!!!!

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 02-09-2006, 5:46 PM

Hahn, talked to B. Franny a couple of days ago, said he might be going up to shoot with you pretty soon. I'm going to be in and out of Phoenix over the next month or so on business and if you have room/time I wouldn't mind taking Alex out of school so he can get some water time in. later........ Hijack over, sorry.

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 6:02 PM

You young bucks need to stop running your mouth! 17 and you're the Hyperlite know it all!

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 6:04 PM

B. Franny never answers his phone. If he does, he's in a loud bar somewhere and can't talk. Yes I have plans to shoot him this Spring and would love for you to come down and ride. shoot me an e-mail.

jibber13 02-09-2006, 6:25 PM

yep!
sorry if i have to correct some of my elders but the facts are the facts and some of your homies are blowing smoke. and by the way i do have the facts! what you need to know?
17 and still you friend

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 6:28 PM

It's your story Clayton, you can tell it however you want to.

jibber13 02-09-2006, 6:37 PM

the story-

ok here is the next hint

name of board co. has 3 letters a shape and a #

still you friend

jibber13 02-09-2006, 6:39 PM

steven
relax bro
what do you need to know?
you friend
clay

(wakedad33) · (wakedad33) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 02-09-2006, 6:42 PM

Clayton, your talking out of your a$$ to the wrong guy, Steven has been in the industry longer then you have been alive, yes we all "know" someone who has all the facts, like I said before let's wait for Paul's interview.

(solo) · (solo) **Join Date: Oct 2001** 02-09-2006, 6:44 PM

I am very relaxed. Like I said, I find this thread hilarious. I find your posts hilarious. Keep em coming!

Your Friend As Well,
Steven

jibber13 02-09-2006, 6:59 PM

don't hold your breath on the interview
you might have to wait for alliance
clay