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Old     (deltariderscom)      Join Date: May 2007       08-19-2007, 8:11 AM Reply   
In addition to the cancellation, (which Gary will explain in great detail about what happened this afternoon), ALL of our banners were stolen from the banner line from what was described by a witness as a "white guy in a blue and grey newer Dodge truck". Please contact Gary or Stacy at 925.525.8726, if you have any information about who may have taken these. We will pay a Reward to whoever returns them - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!! Thank You.

(Message edited by deltariderscom on August 19, 2007)
Old     (detonate69)      Join Date: Apr 2001       08-19-2007, 10:40 AM Reply   
Thats some BS. Whoever the witness was should have took a picture, who doesn't have a camera now a days? Good luck in getting them back I know banners aren't cheap. I'll keep a lookout for any NEW banners up or for sale.
Old     (deltariderscom)      Join Date: May 2007       08-19-2007, 6:00 PM Reply   
Yeah it's BS! The witness was a fisherman, not sure if they carry cameras in their tackle boxes, but I'll suggest that to them when I see 'em. He said the dude took them down like he wasn't doing anything wrong, so he didn't think anything of it. Hopefully someone will come forward and do the right thing by returning them. We have had enough issues this season, we didn't need this too! --Stacy--
Old     (jv_v210)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-19-2007, 6:33 PM Reply   
Sorry to hear about the days events being cancelled. I was going to attend, and got caught working. I headed to Orwood to catch up with some friends in the afternoon, and after a flat trailer tire, a quick pit stop to see my buddies at Delta sport boats for a quick tire fix, Thanx Steve! I got the boat in the water about 4:00 pm. I Saw your banners still on the fence. Didn't see anyone out on the levee, but when I came back at about 7:00 they were gone. The theives had to have come by in that window. Hope you get them back. Theives and boating don't mix. They really bring down the whole atmosphere! Good luck, and I hope you guys get the comps' going again.
Old     (nsolis220)      Join Date: May 2007       08-19-2007, 9:53 PM Reply   
i saw them as late as 5:30 they were still there. We thought we missed it i was so pist but then i found out about the sheriffs that crap, your events are what the delta should be about. Safe fun!
Old    sealyon.net            08-20-2007, 6:13 AM Reply   
We had one of our's stolen a few weeks back. It kind of makes you mad. Good luck on getting them back. My guess is they won't be up for sale but on some kid's bed room wall.Has anyone been rejected from riding?
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-20-2007, 7:35 AM Reply   
Cops called, banners stolen....

Sounds to me like some local that doesn't want to see wakeboarding at Orwood.
Old     (derby)      Join Date: Nov 2005       08-20-2007, 8:27 AM Reply   
Someone called the cops? That is messed up.

Keep your head up DRA crew. The persistence and dedication which I know you have will still make this work.

I know your pissed now but, you will have the last laugh.

By the way, who do I write a letter too to help stop this shiat from happening again.
Old    wakekite            08-20-2007, 8:33 AM Reply   
DRA - Stopped by Orwood around one to watch the event and was shocked to learn that it had been cancelled. What happened? I thought every one was on board?
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-20-2007, 9:45 AM Reply   
The police department was having a "small-peter" complex. They were pissed that no-body got their specific permission (even though it had been ok'd by the coast guard and other authorities). It was more about them flexing their muscles about their new wakeboard ban than anything. Very unfortunate... It took way more effort on their part to cancel the event then it would've taken for them to help promote a family friendly, safe event. Maybe they could've stayed around for a while to see that things were run is a very safe/fun manner before they shut things down.

There were a lot of bummed people. CIE crew included.
Old     (sherman)      Join Date: Feb 2002       08-20-2007, 5:23 PM Reply   
Watch the for the article in the Contra Costa Times, Channel (2) News, Delta Navigator, It was a piss--g contest between Mary pipo (don't know how to spell the name) and the sheriffs dept. More to follow (Teri) oops did I say that It took 6 sheriff's cars 2 K-9 units to shut us down. Plus the sheriff's threat to take Mr DRA to jail
Old     (jv_v210)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-20-2007, 8:21 PM Reply   
I read some posts on wake events a few days ago, and some local guy was crying about the event,and then giving some back handed support, saying go D.R.A. I support you blah blah blah. But I am pretty sure there were alot of calls to the sherrifs dept. to shut it down, from so called supporters. My question is, I heard the sherrifs were blocking the ramp to prevent launches,,,is this true? and if so, Is that legal on Orwoods property? Is that not private?
Old     (ldr)      Join Date: Nov 2002       08-20-2007, 10:38 PM Reply   
JerryV,
i read the posts that you are talking about and it seems as though this individual obviusly has a problem with where this event was being held. Seeing that this person played the broken record roll in their opposition to the event location i would have to draw the same conclusions that you have. I think there were definate attempts by certain individuals to shut down this event, even though they claim to be supporters.
Old     (mkperceptions)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-20-2007, 11:52 PM Reply   
Dude DRA rocks what is wrong with people. Do they want the whole delta to be like Ski Beach. SHERRIF's GO TO SKI BEACH AND DO YOUR JOB. stay away from our good clean fun.
Old     (wakeeater)      Join Date: May 2002       08-21-2007, 12:09 AM Reply   
i can't wait till the next evet after the cut off date hopefully it will go off. as for the banners i wish i could help but all i know is that they were still there at 630ish when we rolled in
Old     (nuckledragger)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-21-2007, 2:33 AM Reply   
I hope those werent CIRE banners :-) Some kid definitely has those hanging in his room. Keep your head up, we appreciate all you guys do to promote the sport.
Old     (richd)      Join Date: Oct 2003       08-21-2007, 6:40 AM Reply   
I think JRod hit the "nail on the head".

I also heard Mary Piepo insisted that wording in the new law allowing special events be removed before she would sign the "no tow zone" bill into law this spring and then turned around and thought a letter saying it was OK for the DRA contest would be sufficient for the sheriff?!

For someone living in Discovery Bay I feel she is totally out of touch with her constituency.
Old     (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-21-2007, 7:40 AM Reply   
I'm going to have to go with J, Jerry and Matt on this one, I agree with the fact that people that may say that they support DRA may have had a hand in shuting it down. I also think that there might have been some other people that have intrest in other areas, that might have had somthing to do with it. It is quite sad that something as well thought out as a DRA contest gets shut down and things like Ski Beach go on with out a hint of intrest from the Sheriff. what also amazes me is that there was not one water patrol unit in sight. I just think it shows their pig headedness and power trip mentality when they show up 8 cars deep to an organized event, and threaten to take people to jail that have gone through all the steps that he knew about. OH, and I also think that it's BS that they waited untill the morning of when they most likly knew the night befor, but fail to tell DRA. bunch of crap.
The DRA crew are good Peple and are what Delta Riding is all about, Good time great people, and killer riding.

Al
Old     (fatsac)      Join Date: Jun 2004       08-21-2007, 7:55 AM Reply   
This really sucks to hear about, especially considering all the effort and good times I've read about on this board.
Hit me up for a new DRA banner. I'll donate one for the cause.
mwood@monsterdisplays.com
Old     (deltariderscom)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 8:53 AM Reply   
I really appreciative all the support and kind words that you guys have posted. I myself am mostly disappointed that we were not able to hold the event for the riders. That is why we do it, the reason why I take the time and effort to contact Coast Guard, Sheriffs department, County Offices, and environmental agencies to hold these events. It has been a tough year for us. We seem to have been caught up in some political muscle flexing and our riders are the ones suffering the most.
To set the story straight here is what transpired to ultimately cause us to stop the event. DRA obtained and had on hand at the event Coast Guard permit, County Permit, Insurance certificate, and approval letters from the Contra Costa Board of Supervisors approving the event to take place despite the "No-Tow Zone". This all started Wednesday prior to the event, I received a call from the Sheriffs office (Marine Patrol) stating some concerns in regards to the location due to the no tow ordinance. I explained all of the permits we had in place and were prior to the ordinance going into affect (July 26th 2007) and I had been told by the county code enforcement that we were still permitted to hold the event. He then told me about the ordinance and the lack of verbiage allowing to even hold special events. So I asked if I got the Board of supervisors to approve it, specifically Mary Piepho (who created the ordinance) would it still be able to happen and I got an answer of yes but he did not think it would happen. So to the phones I went calling anyone and everyone I could think of to get to someone who could make a difference. I finally did get some answers back from some of the County Supervisors and all directed me to Mary Peipho since it is her district. I got a call finally from her admin. and explained to her the situation and the need for approval from Peipho to hold the event. Late Thursday I got a call from her office telling me a letter was being drafted and sent to the Deputy Elect Sheriff and Orwood Resort approving the event to happen. I then called the Coast Guard and faxed a copy to them getting there approval in return, I also called the Sheriffs department and left messages with all telling them to call me if there were any other issues. With no word of problems we set up Friday and finished Saturday morning to have 8 Police cars roll up and in conversation I was told I would be arrested if we towed a rider. In asking what the fine or penalty was for breaking the ordinance I got a response of "WE DON'T KNOW". I also offered to take tickets so they could do there diligence and let us continue on and work out the rest of the details after the event. That didn't work either.

The story gets difficult here, I find out later in the day the whole police presence was to insure we did not have the event to make a point to Mary Peipho that she should have not ignored the verbiage for special events that the sheriffs department recommended for the ordinance. Basically saying Mary your created this now you live with it and you can not change your mind now to look like you saved the day.

The positive that has happened is we have been asked to work with the county to help structure the ordinance to accommodate future events and help to bring more positive events to the area for the youth.

Yes we will continue and our events will happen at Orwood September 22 and 23rd.
Old     (ride900)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 9:37 AM Reply   
I find it weird that all this crap started about the same time that "Troy" guy posted in the wake events section (see link) saying that he supported the event but really showed no support at all. He seemed to focus alot on the no tow zone. I just find it strange, and then he hasn't been seen since. Anybody see a relation?

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3320/486276.html?1187375291
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-21-2007, 9:44 AM Reply   
I think Troy might have some nice banners in his garage.
Old    wakekite            08-21-2007, 10:27 AM Reply   
There are no banners in my garage and I've not disappeared. I don't find it necessary as a grown adult to have an argument in a discussion forum. I support DRA, have been there for almost all their competitions and I was there for all the meetings fighting the no tow zone. My concerns were just that concerns that I publicly addressed on your site; I'm surprised at how mean and quick people can jump to conclusions! For that I’ll dismiss myself from your forums and stand in the background and provide my support to a group of people who have done nothing but try to better the community; DRA.

Before I go, please allow me to share my dual role on the Delta as a wakeboarder and as tournament bass fisherman. Possibly we can all come together as one; some day as recreational boaters we will NEED one another

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30655&f=2
Old     (ride900)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 10:42 AM Reply   
C-ya
Old     (kickflip_mj)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-21-2007, 11:19 AM Reply   
alright so i thought i would pipe in and say that Mary Piepho is my next door neighbor and she was gone last weekend on vacation and when i went to her house to drop off the mail she didnt seem to happy with what the sherriff did this weekend. she understands the laws in place but she was also not to happy with the fact that the sheriff did not take the chance at the perfect moment to help and promote good boater saftey. instead the sheriff tried to prove a point, and besides the point he was supposto have 30 days after the sign was in place before he really enforces thre law.
Old     (thor)      Join Date: Oct 2001       08-21-2007, 11:27 AM Reply   
It is interesting to read the points of view on the western bass link that Troy posted. While alot of the comments on that site are negative, there are some good points being made.

I think that some of the points and issues raised by the fisherman might help the guys at DRA better prepare for when they attempt to have their next event at Orwood.

As for me I was somewhat surprised by the choice of location for the DRA event. While I personally elected to ride on Sunday last weekend out of Orwood versus on Saturday to avoid any inconvenience caused by the event, I expected that there would be some back lash from the other delta boaters who use Orwood to launch. I thought the whole go around the back way or wait until we escort you through the slough scenario was going to create a lot of unnecessary headaches for the DRA guys on the day of the event.
Old     (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-21-2007, 11:38 AM Reply   
Sorry to hear about this situation. That was digging a little too hard accusing Troy of all that. 99.9% it was a bunch of kids who saw an opportunity. No need to scare off a guy who really seemed like he could offer something. But then again, you fell right into his wakeboarder image.
Old     (rpayer)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-21-2007, 11:44 AM Reply   
I'm not being biased as I also love to fish but MAN those guys on this fishing forum are a bunch of CRYBABIES!!!
Old     (ronnyboy27)      Join Date: Nov 2005       08-21-2007, 11:44 AM Reply   
I think that the sherriffs office violated the law. In Las Vegas the police department made the culinary union leave a public sidewalk while striking in front of the ventian hotel. The union successfully sued the police department. You did everything in your power to obtain all neccessary paper work and permits. You have a legal case against the sherrif's office. You need to demand financial recourse from the sherrif's office.

HE IS A PUBLIC SERVANT! NOT A KING! I WOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY AND SUE HIM. HE NEEDS TO ISSUE A PUBLIC APOLOGY AND STEP DOWN FROM OFFICE.

Public officials like this make me so freaking mad!
Old     (nsolis220)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 12:10 PM Reply   
Troy, I was just able to read your post about the event. Consider what has transpired its pretty clear you had a hand in shutting down this competition. I found it that odd that you insisted your points over and over but never considered the DRA's points and adjusted your opinion. Since you didnt I cant help but think that there is a bias on your part. As a resident of disco bay for 20 yrs and since you are basing most of your arguement the fact people whould have to go thru the pipes and bridge, since wakeboard boats are to big to go under and the numerous sandbars make it unsafe.I find more error in your logic let alone 20 yrs experiance. I launch out of orwood 5 days a week to ride. Everytime its thru the bride and pipes. This goes for my boat san sanger 210 which is lower profile to my friends 220 nautique that clears by more than a foot at high tide, per the water charts. Also we use those sloughs as well as many others you enjoy that fact we dont have to deal boaters who h ave had to much to drink and now want to drive thier off shore boats in excess of 70 mph thru congested sloughs or the huge deck boats that dont understand that we dont wave at people to be nice but to acknowledge that we see thier fallen rider. I have seen to much of this so i choose that side and with exception of the small bar all of the way to the right that slough is clear as can be! As far as people not knowing their way around that shopuld be thier responsiblity to know before they get behind the wheel of such a dangerous machine. As far as the 5 mph zone there actually wouldnt have been a problem since the comp was to run from just outside of it to the next 5 mph zone. If you are against the DRA just say it dont be back handed about it that is what people with very little self respect and friends do.
Old     (rpayer)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-21-2007, 12:18 PM Reply   
Troy M = BASSK9 from this fishing site.

I'd be willing to bet...
Old     (committed)      Join Date: Jul 2005       08-21-2007, 12:48 PM Reply   
I don't think Troy is banner guy per se, but the other points that are being raised, well, those aren't lookin as tight. Whoever is BassK9, is up to some BS, that is for sure. BassDoggie, is also twisting the facts of the event, to push his or her agenda. Troy, you provided the link, so who are you on that link/site? What's your handle big dog?
Best of luck to the DRA crew, and the work you did. It's time to dust yourself off, and get back in there. What was done, wasn't right, and is easily tasked. I would head to the next town meetings and present this, and ask questions. Get to the bottom of it. Seems like all the ducks were in a row, so something happened. I would be pissed and I am pissed as a CA taxpayer, that they used the entire law enforcement shift to shut down a legal contest. That is joke, and while they where there, true crime was unattended. And you wonder why, the rash of thefts from that area, is growing........
Good luck.
Old     (deltariderscom)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 1:14 PM Reply   
Michael,

I personally do not hold Mary Piepho at fault here, I don't know for sure what kind of political games were played and at what better good was done in this case. There were definitely options that could have been taken. I have heard different stories that the Sheriff was not going to enforce the ordinance that it was going to be a learning curve for the area. I have also heard that there is a tiff between Peipho and Sheriff Rupt and that may have been the reason to push so hard to shut it down. But "I must say it is all gossip at this point for me" I do not know for sure why it was what it is, but DRA is not done and will not stop organizing event for the wakeboard community. I feel we are helping the sport and giving the talent a place to shine. We have lost some support due to our problems this year but we are trying to bring it back to the place to compete on the Delta.

The best comment I heard out of one of the marine patrol was "there is the letter of the law and then there is the spirit of the law" In this case they were forced to uphold the letter of the law when the spirit of the law should have prevailed. Do not hold the Sheriff on patrol responsible they actually want to help in the future and are some very true and good guys.

Its a life-style "live it"
Old     (jbwaken)      Join Date: Dec 2005       08-21-2007, 1:39 PM Reply   
Troy, after reading ALL the posts from Western Bass clearly you do not support DRA. The entire thread was promoted and started by YOU...Why even take the time to log on and sign into WakeWorld when you obviously have no interest in wakeboarding/wake surfing or where the sprot is headed etc....Take both your faces and kick rocks!

What I think is classic, is you posted on WakeWorld at 8:33 on 8/20

By Troy M (wakekite) on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:33 am:

DRA - Stopped by Orwood around one to watch the event and was shocked to learn that it had been cancelled. What happened? I thought every one was on board?

Then you go back to Western Bass and the day before 8/19 you started the thread explaining what had happened and why it was closed...Still shocked????
Old     (mibu)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-21-2007, 2:21 PM Reply   
This whole thing between fishermen and wakeboarders has been around a long time.A week ago sunday we were surfing on middle river when we were shoy at by a bb gun. This person was with his family fishing from the levee.These are not the same fiherman in boats, but something to be aware of. My buddy's son was shot it the shoulder with out injury. We also had 2 6 and 7 year olds on the boat,It could have been way worse.
Old     (socalwakepunk)      Join Date: Dec 2002       08-21-2007, 2:32 PM Reply   
Wow...Glad I changed my mind about taking the 7 hour drive to ride this event. Sorry about all the sh.t that is happening. Sounds like you DRA guys did everything possible to make it (the event) happen. Hope things get worked out soon, hope someone can get to the bottom of this fiasco, someone (sheriff,?) is held accountable.

(Message edited by socalwakepunk on August 21, 2007)
Old    wakelvr            08-21-2007, 2:37 PM Reply   
http://www.deltabasscentral.com/pages/home.php

BassK9 = Don Davis
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       08-21-2007, 3:28 PM Reply   
I don't know about you guys, but I find it shocking that Bass Fisherman know about the Internet, and how to use it!
Old     (tommyc)      Join Date: Nov 2003       08-21-2007, 3:30 PM Reply   
Once again J-Rod is dead on.
Old     (mkperceptions)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-21-2007, 3:33 PM Reply   
they are using palm pilots now.
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Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-21-2007, 3:34 PM Reply   
stefani, why did you delete your first post about don davis? the one that said he was for releasing gators to kill riders in the delta. put that link back up. i got 100 lb rotti for old mr davis and his little gator.Upload
Old    wakelvr            08-21-2007, 3:39 PM Reply   
I don't want to add fuel to the fire but it is very important that we know the type of person we are dealing with. And he was stupid enough to say something like this in a public forum so here it is: Maybe I will send this to the authorities...

http://www.westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26791&start=13&postdays=0&postorde r=asc&highlight=&f=2&sid=5afaf697432918ae067a5824c 13df6f3
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Old     (mkperceptions)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-21-2007, 3:44 PM Reply   
i would send it. its time to put some fear in him
Old     (rpayer)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-21-2007, 3:45 PM Reply   
Not too smart Don...
Old     (load)      Join Date: Jul 2003       08-21-2007, 4:00 PM Reply   
Interesting that Don touts the abundance of great skiing on the Delta on his rental home page. I guess skiing/wakeboarding is okay as long as it fattens Don's pocket!
Old     (mkperceptions)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-21-2007, 4:06 PM Reply   
uh huh. seriously i mean i am nice to fishermen and stay as far as I can away from them but then we ride union point and they are ALWAYS going the wrong way. WTF. I think they dont have the respect and courtesy for us not the other way around
Old     (baschralper)      Join Date: Dec 2001       08-21-2007, 4:24 PM Reply   
I think i'm gonna call Don's 800# and ask how many wakeboats his dock will hold.
Old     (nsolis220)      Join Date: May 2007       08-21-2007, 4:50 PM Reply   
nice kdubz what a jerk off this don davis is like doug said look at his site he talks about how great victoria is blah blah blah about how great the water skiing is on the delta and in this great spots. weird huh
Old     (nasty530)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-21-2007, 4:52 PM Reply   
It does not make much sense. It is a public waterway that everyone has rights to. DRA simply got the necessary permits, etc. to hold a competition just like you would need to hold a parade or such. Us "crazy hulligan wakeboarders" were taking every step possible to make it safe for the riders and the other people that use that waterway. I would not tell a fisherman he cannot fish where he wants simply because he was in my line. I would go around him because he has just as much right to be there as I.

PS I would be willing to bet it was someone with the mindset of BASSK9 that took DRA's banner's.
Old     (baschralper)      Join Date: Dec 2001       08-21-2007, 5:13 PM Reply   
Don's house shouldn't be too hard to find. Disco is a small place. He has a pretty good pic. of his deck and dock, and pretty much describes what side of town he's on in the website.
Someone should drive by and see if the "blue and grey newer Dodge truck" described as the one taking the banners is the one parked infront of the fish killer hotel.
Old     (jeff359)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-21-2007, 5:35 PM Reply   
I say we get together, rent his place for a weekend, and thow a Wakeworld/DRA party. Trash the place, and leave a few gators in his house.

Someone figure out which house it is, I'll sit on it and find out what he drives.
Old     (jv_v210)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-21-2007, 6:02 PM Reply   
I Thought when I brought up the backhanded supporter I smelled something "fishy." The ignorance of people like this to think they own the waterways is ludacris. I never bashed a fisherman for anchoring in the path of heavy boat traffic. I also never said much about 70+ mph bass boats that fly across the slough through tullies to the other side and almost hit my boat. These people that blow the whistle on other people don't realize that their actions are only going to bring law enforcement down on all boaters, wakeboarder, and fisherman alike. Law enforcement will have no choice but to crackdown on the whole Delta to quell the complaints, and more signs, more restrictions, and more laws will be put in place, and it will ruin it for all of us. We have thousand of dollars invested in our love of the sport. Boats, boards, equipment, etc. Just like they have their pole, bass boats, and equipment. They are just not looking at the big picture! The Delta is everyone to enjoy, and D.R.A. brings the true spirit of boating, and the sport to the Delta. Keep blowing the whistle to law enforcement, and the entire Delta will suffer. Eventually no one will come anymore for fear of law enforcemet restrictions, and the whole Delta economy will suffer. By the way Donny, you should be very careful what you say. You are insulting a very intelligent and resourceful group of people. I think your dock might be a great place for a competition By the way I was born in Florida, and still have friends and family there. If your dock is too small for a competition, surely it is large enough to accomodate a nice fat gator eh! Think before you speak and maybe we can all boat in peace!
Old     (peter_c)      Join Date: Sep 2001       08-21-2007, 6:18 PM Reply   
This is a photo of Don Davis aka BASSK9. Any chance someone saw him taking down the signs and could ID him to the police? He is easily recognizable as he is straight up ugly. Going the legal route is the right way to do business. Lock him up before he hurts someone. He is a self proclaimed duck hunter and has a labrador.

FWIW a quote from him "I reside at Discovery Bay in Seal Bay on the Kellog Creek side"
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Old     (keith2002)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-21-2007, 6:31 PM Reply   
Does anyone remember when the link from www.pirate4x4.com about the guy (Charlie Wenzel) who screwed another guy in the sale of some gears was posted here. Please take a quick read what the pirate guys did to him on that thread. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203 Maybe Don should be Wenzeled.
Old     (keith2002)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-21-2007, 6:32 PM Reply   
Looks like Peter already started while I was posting. Right On Peter!
Old     (mcwakerider)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-21-2007, 6:55 PM Reply   
wat kind of truck does don davis drive? wasnt it posted that the people who stole the banners were in a blue and grey dodge?
Old     (tyboarder03)      Join Date: Nov 2003       08-21-2007, 7:04 PM Reply   
Keith- That is some funny shizz they did to that Dbag on Pirate4x4.
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-21-2007, 7:10 PM Reply   
i was just wondering if anyone here knows the people that own the property on the east side of werner cut between orwood and disco. the only 2 houses there with the docks. where i should remind some people its 5 mph if there boats are tied up. but does anyone know them or has anyone approached them about this. they seem to be the most effected by this since that is their access by water. just a thought. not saying they even know or care about a thing here, but could be a step in the right direction for next time.
Old     (supraride)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-21-2007, 7:33 PM Reply   
Hey everyone. Just wanted to let you all know that I located the banners and should have them in my posession this evening. Just to let you know it wasnt fisherman don or the trojan horse of troy that took them. I got lucky in finding them that I just happened to be talking to the right person that knew where they were. They feel real bad about taking them and wanted to get them back to owners at DRA. I let Dave know and hope to hook up with Stacy & Gary tomorrow to give them back to them. I am like everyone else here that thinks the sherriffs were way out of line to wait until the morning of the event to show up and shut it down. We were all looking forward to having another great time at the DRA with everyone. Was real dissapointed in the am when i talked to Dave and he said it was canceled, but cant wait for the next one. These events are always a blast and we always have a great time. See you all at the next event
Old     (antbug)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-21-2007, 7:53 PM Reply   
Good to hear Tony. Thanks for the update.
Old     (keith2002)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-21-2007, 8:09 PM Reply   
Tyler - If you have about 4 or 5 hours free time it's a great read and yes, they got him. The pirate guys are brutal when they want to be, but they are a great bunch to party with.

Peter - did you go to the meeting in Pleasant Hill a couple weeks ago about the El Dorado Route Designation Project. My friend just had some of the clubs over to his house last night to talk about what you can do to keep some of the routes and trails open. Oh, and I dig your kayak in your profile.
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-21-2007, 8:20 PM Reply   
Don is very BAD man, there is something "fishy" about that old guy and i dont like it.
Old     (im_no_one)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-21-2007, 8:37 PM Reply   
Glad to hear DRA got the banners back.

But the core of this thread has been people saying they support DRA, but really don't. Did anyone think that maybe "Wakekite/Troy" stole someones identity to throw everyone off? I can't imagine that this ol guy really cares about DRA and wakeboarding for that matter. As you can see by my profile anyone can pretend on here. Unless you actually have met someone in person, you never really know whos behind the name. Notice wakekite deleted his profile, and did you notice this guy used the blinking ad on top as a name? Those posts remind me of the long paragraphs that someone from Gowakin used to write. Can anyone guess who that was?
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-21-2007, 8:48 PM Reply   
ok, take your mask off right now. that was to funny, but it is a great point at that. there are so many yahoo's out there and its such a small world. alot of us know each other on here but most of us are just another screen name. i myself have nothing to hide and i will confront anyone with a problem in person. i cant stan fake idiots pretending to be someone else from behind there computer. its a joke. for the most part i think people are for real on are beloved ww and i think we all back each other up when we spot a yahoo. but like fake bastard said, haha, it only takes one post from some radom idiot to stir up the pot.
Old    wakelvr            08-21-2007, 8:57 PM Reply   
People say things they don't mean out of anger and maybe this Don guy said what he said about the gators out of just that, anger. Regardless, I will send his comments to the authorities. They can profile him or decide what to do with it. I don't think anyone should bother this guy, KARMA will catch up to him. As for proof of his identity, there is no link to Troy and this Don guy that I can find (they may not be the same guy), but there is no doubt that Don is bassK9 on the site I posted above.
Old     (mbrown)      Join Date: May 2005       08-22-2007, 1:03 AM Reply   
The no tow zone is a political hot potato in disco bay right now. Since it's implementation the authors and it's few supporters have been backing away from it and pointing fingers at one another. Piepho's husband who sits on Disco's town board stated that all feedback regarding the ordinance has been positive. He stated this in the face of over 800 attendee's all against the ordinance at the town meeting. Petitions were signed asking for withdrawal of the ordinance because Discovery Bay residents were overwhelmingly against the ordinance. However, it was pushed through by the town board, lead by Dave Piepho, and taken to the county supervisors lead by Mary Piepho for rapid implementation. The only reason it was scaled back to "weekends only" was because the most sane and concerned town board person David Dove stated that no research has been done to support any action. If the Piepho's were going to ram it down our throats at least we could start with a limited "weekends only" ordinance and shrink the size of the zone.
Now the DRA was canceled and more finger pointing is going on. Our politicians need to take financial responsibility for hastily crafted ordinances and their irresponsible use of power. But they won't so make sure you vote.
Gary you are not alone in the Piepho power web.

We were suppose to have a fireworks show in Disco this year. It was even approved by the fire chief. However it was canceled because someone does not want people from other less affluent areas making a 4th of July visit to Disco Bay. Plus it may be a parking nightmare, oh my! Soggy peat field fire hazard B.S.! That's not a fire hazard (ask the fire chief). We're at war as a country and we cannot see past our differences and mild parking inconveniences on our independence day. It's crazy.
Vote People, your rights are being affected every day by your so-called elected representatives. Are they really representing you?
Old    sealyon.net            08-22-2007, 5:36 AM Reply   
Machew, you go man.}We have people here like that. Just remember the squeeky wheel gets the grease. If there is enough stink raised over this
it will work out.
Good luck.
Old     (baschralper)      Join Date: Dec 2001       08-22-2007, 8:10 AM Reply   
Bryan:
I saw the post you are talking about.
It was a copy and paste of one of Don's letters on the thread that Tony M(Wakekite) posted from the western bass forums, word for word.

you didn't miss anything.
Old     (baschralper)      Join Date: Dec 2001       08-22-2007, 8:13 AM Reply   
Here you go Bryan,


(Quote BASSK9)


email cut and paste to

dist3@boscccounty.us



Mary Piepho
County Commissioner District 3
Chair of the Board
651 Pine Street
Martinez, CA

Dear Commissioner Piepho,

I support the no tow zone in Werner cut and Indian slough on the Delta. I support the right to hold tournaments on the Delta.

I do not support the concept of lifting or waiving no tow zones or speed zones for tournaments or special interests. I do not support any tournament that restricts my free unimpeded passage on waterways of the Delta.

According to the Delta Riders Association your office sent a letter to them authorizing them to hold a Wake Board Tournament at Orwood Resort on Saturday August 18th, 2007. Were you aware that the organizers planned to violate the NO TOW zoning regulations your board enacted recently? Were you aware that organizers had designated boats with signs and had intentions to impede passage of other law abiding (non towing) recreational boaters while they competed? Can you cite County Code allowing you to waive no tow zone regulations unilaterally? Did you and can you empower the Delta Riders Association to enforce or regulate boating traffic or did they self authorize? Can you cite code giving you the authority to authorize Wake Board tournaments?

Are you aware that a Bare Foot Water Ski Exhibition is planned for the near future in Werner Cut? The organizers plan 100 mph competitions in a the no tow zone you enacted. What or whose authority granted a permit or waived the no tow regulations for that event? Should my right to boat or fish in Werner Cut be restricted by that event?

I am not in favor of any regulation or authorization that restricts my right to boat or fish the Delta when and where I choose. I oppose any authorization for tournament participants or organizers to regulate or enforce boating traffic. Please be informed that my next vote will reflect your position on this issue.

concerned citizen
_________________
Hanging out with Luke the Lab and Bass fishing. Astrophysics, Astrophotography, Sumarian Mythology, Astronomy, Searching for NEO's , DOGON and Sirius mystery, Gravitational research project. (END QUOTE BASSK9)
Old     (mkperceptions)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-22-2007, 8:28 AM Reply   
I have a great idea. Why dont we all make a day on the weekend sat or sunday. Invite the media, tape stickers over our cf#'s and Straight ride through disco all the way to orowood. Hundreds of wakeboarders, skiers, and tubers and really let them know F.U. and your stupid ban. There are not enough cops to stop us. We can devise different routes after we pass disco bay so the cops wont even know what to do. then on different channels we will have boats lined up to block the channel so that only the wakeboats can pass and get there rider back in the boat before the cops even know what happened.
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       08-22-2007, 11:53 AM Reply   
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