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Old    jay_23            08-17-2006, 3:37 PM Reply   
for all you liquid force lovers out there. which board do you like better, the Team or the Substance, and why. thanks in advance.
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-17-2006, 3:49 PM Reply   
Team's faster, Substance has more pop. You'll get opinions both ways. I personally prefer the Substance. I'm kinda partial to molded fin boards though too.
Old     (kylielogan)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-17-2006, 4:00 PM Reply   
I've never ridden the Team (and suck as a wakeboarder in general), but I bought the substance this summer and love it. I'd highly recommend it because it feels very stable and I'm getting on edge a lot easier with it (without faceplanting!). Um ... do I need to add myself to the haterlist now on the "pusher" thread?
Old     (skeetersky13)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-17-2006, 5:12 PM Reply   
i love the team...
it really depends on what you want. evan is right..the team is faster and the substance gets more pop. but the team has 6 fins which makes it track really well and has a continuous rocker..the substance has a 3-stage rocker.
Old     (anodyne)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-17-2006, 5:20 PM Reply   
...or if you want something crazy, try the Fish. That board is just WAY too much fun. I have a Substance, and it's a killer board as well, although it's not as fast as I'd like... I like my boards pretty fast.
Old     (seattle)      Join Date: Mar 2002       08-17-2006, 5:26 PM Reply   
Substance, way more pop imo.
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       08-17-2006, 8:02 PM Reply   
Substance no doubt,also try the PS3....a little faster substance.I personally love it.
Old     (_jason_)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-17-2006, 8:43 PM Reply   
Substance for sure. Absolutly love mine. Its great.
Old     (liquidforce21i)      Join Date: May 2006       08-17-2006, 9:37 PM Reply   
just switched from a team to a switch ever
Old    kevo_3wg            08-17-2006, 10:31 PM Reply   
substance is sick but i havent riden the team
Old     (wakesurfer54)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-17-2006, 11:05 PM Reply   
the substance is a sick board

kevo whats up man i didnt no you were on here
Old     (iamnathanhudson)      Join Date: Dec 2002       08-18-2006, 6:56 AM Reply   
I know it wasn't an option but you REALLY should try out the Watson!
Old    jay_23            08-18-2006, 11:42 AM Reply   
do you guys ride the substance finless????
Old     (parkgirl)      Join Date: Nov 2001       08-18-2006, 11:46 AM Reply   
I was going to get the substance but got the PS3 which I hear is similar. I love it and I ride it with out the center fins.

I used to ride the team, it was a good board too but it hurt my knees because you land way out in the flats.
Old     (melanie_g)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-18-2006, 11:56 AM Reply   
I have both, I prefer the team.

Team is faster and I feel more controlled when turning to come back into the wake. I feel a more controlled edge up and through the wake. I also like the cupped fins, it fits my style.

Substance has an insane amount of pop, it feels like I am getting popped early compared to my Team. It also has a way loser feel and I have to really use my edge to keep it locked in.
Old     (otiswunguy)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2006, 2:07 PM Reply   
I agree with the write in option of watson.
Old     (meteora184)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-18-2006, 4:51 PM Reply   
i like substance, it has more of a snowy feel supposubly, and i like the loose boards like that
Old     (rmcronin)      Join Date: Aug 2002       08-19-2006, 10:27 AM Reply   
If you're a big guy you might want the Team 143. It has more surface area than my old Balance 144 but not quite as fast. Haven't heard a bad thing about a Substance. I've tried the 142-fun ride but I like my Team better for my style.
Old    jay_23            08-19-2006, 7:18 PM Reply   
which board has softer landings???
Old     (ponyh8r)      Join Date: Dec 2004       08-19-2006, 10:50 PM Reply   

the substance is a great board, but the landings are brutal. I switched to a Watson this summer and the spine down the middle gives great, supersoft, marshmellow, pillow, cloudlike landings.
Old     (malibu73)      Join Date: Jun 2006       08-20-2006, 6:55 AM Reply   
The team has super soft landings
Old     (just_board)      Join Date: Jul 2005       08-20-2006, 9:02 AM Reply   
i second the fish.


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