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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-18-2020, 11:23 AM Reply   
Hi all, I've picked up a second hand sesitec system 2.0 and I'm slowly building a cable park. Sesitec have been very slow to reply to my emails and I figured surely we'd have some people in the brains trust here on Wakeworld who might be able to help! Just looking to find out how I should service the motor, particularly gear oils and motor oils, and would gladly love any other advice you can give. It was all working when I packed it down but it all looked like it needed some TLC before I put it up,

I've excavated the lake and hope to dig/pour the anchors in the next week or 2. If anyone is interested I'm documenting the build (I'm not a very handy person so I'll be as descriptive as possible).


Thanks for your help in advance!
Old     (paulharenberg)      Join Date: Jul 2007       11-19-2020, 4:17 AM Reply   
I can't help on the Sesitec information, but I am definitely subscribing to your build.

As a civil engineer and a wakeboarder I've envisioned cable parks on all sorts of plots of land I've driven by, but based on the back of the napkin cost estimate couldn't justify one for myself and the cost of land in the Northeast.

I'm interested in following your build and wish you luck.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-21-2020, 8:29 AM Reply   
Looking forward to hearing more about it.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-22-2020, 8:20 AM Reply   
Cheers, I'm about to start long service leave so I'll post my progress here this week!
Old     (theloungelife)      Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT       11-24-2020, 2:15 AM Reply   
Following as well. Are you going to build your own features or source them?
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 3:33 PM Reply   
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Following as well. Are you going to build your own features or source them?
Both, plus I am going to rebuild some of the old features that were at the park I bought - the kickers are pretty stuffed.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 4:14 PM Reply   
So starting from the beginning - I had a swamp in the middle of my farm and the farmer that was leasing my land asked if he could dig a long recycling pond ( we couldn't call it a dam or a lake - council regulations) so he could use more of the land. I said twist my arm knowing full well the potential of such a body of water. The surrounding areas drain into it and the whole area floods if we get more than 100mm of rain. The pond is definitely long enough, but was really only wide enough for winching (~15-20m wide) and it pretty much sat there for 10 years. He only pumped out of it once in that time.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 4:18 PM Reply   
The second image shows my plans and the estimated final tower positions - unfortunately it was dug too close to the existing track so I have to run the cable over it (system would fit but anchors would not). I thought long and hard about this but decided that if it was too much I can fill some of the lake in and move it forward down the track.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 4:31 PM Reply   
There's a long story behind the purchase of the park (I'll probably tell it sometime if anyone is interested) however after 11 years of working towards a house everything went ahead, and we were able to scrounge together enough to buy it. I immediately started draining the lake so it could be excavated. This poor little 6.5hp pump managed to drain the lake 1.5m (I ran it twice a day, sometimes more) over 4 months. I should mention at this stage, budget is very tight. I'm a teacher and sole income earner.
I also had to excavate some of the gutters on my property to help the water get away as the gutters weren't surveyed or leveled when put in.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 4:37 PM Reply   
Being an old cane farm and not really knowing who had worked it and what chemicals were used over that time, I decided to do a large set of water and soil testing for chemicals, metals, pesticides, herbicides - the works. Water quality is really important and although we'd swum in it previously, it had a lot of suspended clay making it look milky and I wanted to make sure. Over $400 worth of tests and everything came back with excellent results. The water quality is excellent. I will also be buying an electric pump to oxygenate the water (water fountain feature?)
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 4:55 PM Reply   
Last one for today - after draining the lake I got it excavated. To save money, the last cut dumped dirt next to the lake. I'm still not sure about this - it did save big $$$, and will reduce wind but may get in the way a little. Time will tell, I've already cut 2 big holes in it on the natural water paths so I don't end up with a swamp either side of the walls. Thank goodness for 4 in 1 buckets on tractors.

I love air tricks. As the system is 6m tall and I have to go across a road, i thought I'd build some pads to put the towers on to give me a little extra height . They are currently 1.5m tall, but I'm guessing they will compact over time (yes, 20t excavator compacted them as much as it could but gravity and water will still make a difference). This also will keep the system high and dry as the whole area is covered in a couple inches of water after heavy rain.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-24-2020, 5:01 PM Reply   
From the same spot as the pump earlier.
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Old     (Andy_Mora)      Join Date: Oct 2012       11-25-2020, 12:46 AM Reply   
Thanks for posting all this! I really want to keep hearing more about this whole process.
BTW I'm a teacher too and probably like many on here, have always dreamed of having my own park. So it's pretty cool to see you doing this. I can live my dream vicariously through you haha.
Old     (Andy_Mora)      Join Date: Oct 2012       11-25-2020, 12:58 AM Reply   
I always mess around with SketchUp designing my dream parks. Here's one that's kind of "realistic" but probably still out of your budget especially with the bi level pool. Just thought I'd share anyway. If you can make this set up, I will be even more envious than I already am!
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-25-2020, 7:14 AM Reply   
That's amazing Andy! Maybe I should move the track and make that section the upper level ...Probably WAY in the future. There's some awesome obstacles there.
Old     (ottog1979)      Join Date: Apr 2007       11-25-2020, 9:53 AM Reply   
OMG this is cool! PLEASE keep up the progress posting!!!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       11-29-2020, 8:47 AM Reply   
So onto the system itself - It's a Sesitec System 2 from 2014. The park was a great little park that we have many fond memories of however due to illness the owners were unable to run it as a business any more. It shut down in 2017 and had been sitting there for 3 years. It runs on a Generator (which I will hopefully be able to save enough to put on a 3 phase connection before it dies).
The Generator got some water in the sump so we've flushed it a few times with new oil, and will need a new muffler, other than that it is working fine.
The System itself looks a little weathered (hence me wanting sesitec to reply re parts/ servicing). I'm hoping to pull it apart a little this weekend and clean it up/re-grease everything.

As you can see, the kickers aren't in great condition and will need to be rebuilt.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-02-2020, 10:53 AM Reply   
I bought a 400m coil of rope. This is to work out center as well as ensure the anchors & towers line up, and finally is used to pull the cable through, Unfortunately about 3/4 of the way to the other end I dropped it. After a couple of hours of untangling I had enough to get to the other end and run it between the center marks. I have another 150m of tangled rope sitting in my car for another day
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Old     (Andy_Mora)      Join Date: Oct 2012       12-04-2020, 3:44 AM Reply   
The next time I complain about my boat rope/handle getting tangled I'll try to remember this...
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-06-2020, 5:53 PM Reply   
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The next time I complain about my boat rope/handle getting tangled I'll try to remember this...
It's certainly put those tangles into perspective!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-06-2020, 5:57 PM Reply   
On to the anchors - they need to be 1.5 x 1.5 and 1.2m deep I lined them up using the rope and stakes at my center points, then made sure they were square. Who'd have thought Trigonometry would be important in building a cable park!
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Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       12-07-2020, 10:10 AM Reply   
awesome. I've also drawn up many a park in various configs over the years. Even walked a few tracts and discussed numbers but something always came up. sub'd and looking forward to updates.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-07-2020, 2:59 PM Reply   
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awesome. I've also drawn up many a park in various configs over the years. Even walked a few tracts and discussed numbers but something always came up. sub'd and looking forward to updates.
I look forward to hearing your ideas! At the moment it will be pretty boring until I can get more hands on deck to build obstacles - a couple of kickers straight up but hopefully a pipe and some wallrides, A frames and anything else we can put together.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-07-2020, 3:06 PM Reply   
The area I've chosen used to be a Melaleuca swamp (we call them paperbark trees in Aus) It was cleared a decade before we bought the property. More on that in a second...

We're in the middle of a drought which has been good for me to resize the lake, but has made the clay ultra hard to dig in accurately. Dug out the anchors - took me a whole day. One end was the super hard clay and was fiddly to say the least. The other end was the reason I mentioned the paperbark swamp, because I wondered what happened to all the logs. Turns out that they were buried and anytime I managed to get a wall accurate I'd snag a log and bring half of the wall down Nothing extra concrete can't fix I guess.
The steel and rio is being bent as you read this and hopefully the anchors will be poured next week.
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Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       12-09-2020, 7:32 AM Reply   
digging that dry clay probably sucks, but good to know your anchors and water are staying put!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-10-2020, 10:50 AM Reply   
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digging that dry clay probably sucks, but good to know your anchors and water are staying put!
Absolutely! I was worried that in making it bigger I'd go too far, hit sandy loam and it'd all seep out but apparently there was no chance of that happening
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       12-10-2020, 11:16 AM Reply   
Motor time. Had a mate (Jet engineer!) give up his weekend to help service the motor. I'm not the handiest of people but it was great how simple the set up is (to a degree). We pulled the grease points out and made sure they were working and re-greased everything that needed it, made a list of bolts that need replacing and put some lithium grease on the rest. We had a good look in the gear box but I still didn't know how much gear oil to put in at the time. Sesitec replied to some messages on Facebook (cheers!) so I think we've got the gear oil height sorted for now.

Despite looking very weathered, everything is in good condition!

We also had a look at the deflection tower. The bearings were working well but I noticed that the pulley wheel was worn. I had an unused spare that we rescued from the park - the shipping container that held all the spare parts had rusted through and water had been getting in for a couple of years so unfortunately a tremendous amount of gear was ruined. The spare pulley's bearings were corroded beyond recovery. We thought about swapping the bearings but we decided to get some new ones. Hopefully they'll be ready in the next couple of weeks.
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Old     (Javi)      Join Date: Aug 2016       01-20-2021, 2:23 PM Reply   
Very cool. A lot of work I bet. On the features, the plastic sheet is one of the expensive parts, assuming they are using high quality polyethylene with a good UV resistance package in it. If you can make sure those don't break on you while fixing them, you should be good. The frame underneath and whatever you use as floats (barrels, etc) is pretty straight forward to do. I subscribed. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       01-22-2021, 11:34 AM Reply   
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Very cool. A lot of work I bet. On the features, the plastic sheet is one of the expensive parts, assuming they are using high quality polyethylene with a good UV resistance package in it. If you can make sure those don't break on you while fixing them, you should be good. The frame underneath and whatever you use as floats (barrels, etc) is pretty straight forward to do. I subscribed. Looking forward to seeing how it goes.
So true! I had the chance to get all the old obstacles but simply didn't have the means of transport or manpower to get them. I regret that now as I've started pricing obstacles (homemade and some of the big names) and realised that they can cost more than the park itself. I've touched base with the people that own the property in the hope that they haven't trashed them and I can come in and tear them down for the sheeting.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       01-22-2021, 11:40 AM Reply   
Hi team, it's been a big summer but ironically the rain is both slowing us down but also not enough. More on that on an upcoming post.
The next steps were more nerdy - the laptop that has the sesitec software is over 8 years old so I got a mate to clone the drive for me and back it up, Being the champion he is he also put it on an SSD, made a copy with windows 10 and created an ISO.

A bit sad I had to cut the reeds as they are a natural water filter. Unfortunately they were quite long and once water fills the lake they'd be just below the surface - landing amongst them wouldn't be a pleasant experience for a new rider or someone who is a bit water phobic. Hopefully they will seed and grow by the edge once it's full. Also, brush cutting in mud sucks.
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Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       01-24-2021, 2:33 PM Reply   
they're great for wave management too. I think the way you cut them, they'll come back
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       01-27-2021, 2:08 PM Reply   
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they're great for wave management too. I think the way you cut them, they'll come back
You're 100% right. We'd expected a great deal of rain (it was predicted that we'd get over 200mm of rain) so I just trimmed them, and letting them die when they get no light from all the water on top of them. Instead we got 80mm which was no where near enough to fill the lake. Unfortunately they've grown back and I'll probably have to poison them which I really hate the idea of.
Old     (theloungelife)      Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT       01-29-2021, 10:01 AM Reply   
Love the updates!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       01-29-2021, 10:51 AM Reply   
After a bit of mucking around we got the anchors ordered. The instructions were in German (not a massive problem) including the rio and bar sizes and strengths ( more of a problem). I ended up contacting a mate who had worked at a few cable parks (shout out Jake) who knew the guy that installed the system 2 at their park and he sent through better instructions.

After a couple of weeks of waiting, the local company that was going to do the bending decided that the job was too small and that we would have to wait 4 months. As wet season was coming I wanted to get everything done when it was dry otherwise it'd be another 4-6 months before the far end would be dry enough to get a concrete truck in. Fortunately a mate of mine was able to then do the bending himself.
Unfortunately the delay meant that on the day we were going to pour, we had 80mm of rain overnight. My anchor holes were filled with water and collapsed. I had to pump each hole out and leave them to dry for a week however I couldn't just jump into the holes and dig them out as the bottom was covered in a soup of muddy clay about 40cm deep. Had we not been delayed even one day we'd have had everything in and ready to go.

Turns out that it was a good thing. More on that later.
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Old     (ottog1979)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-29-2021, 3:45 PM Reply   
This is MAJOR fun to watch. Keep it coming and best of luck.
Old     (LukeR103)      Join Date: Apr 2010       02-03-2021, 5:08 AM Reply   
Looking sick! Not sure if you've seen the videos from backyard rail park but they built their own 2.0 and rails. The lakes were already there, but still was a giant project. Keep on pushin!

http://www.backyardrailpark.com/buil...keboard-cable/

Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-03-2021, 1:11 PM Reply   
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Looking sick! Not sure if you've seen the videos from backyard rail park but they built their own 2.0 and rails. The lakes were already there, but still was a giant project. Keep on pushin!

http://www.backyardrailpark.com/buil...keboard-cable/

Definitely! These guys are awesome and I love how they built almost EVERYTHING! I wish I had those skills
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-09-2021, 2:14 PM Reply   
So while I was waiting for the park to dry enough to get the concrete in I had a few more jobs to do. I had a mate replace the bearings on the deflection tower and I found a new pulley for it too. I also noticed that we have a native aquatic weed known as a smart weed (apparently that's what it's called). Smart weed propagates through seed and by being broken into pieces. Not ideal so we've been walking the edges, pulling it out and burning it once it's died. One end is covered in it and difficult to access so I'm going to need the excavator again. Good thing I have lots more work to do!
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-09-2021, 2:17 PM Reply   
Also, a mate got to work on the tangled rope. This made me very happy!
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-16-2021, 4:59 PM Reply   
After the rain I let the pads settle and pumped out the anchor holes. It was actually a good thing I was delayed as they really hadn't settled and small sink holes had appeared on top of the pads. I took this opportunity to also build some ramps to each pad so I could drive the tractor/excavator up on them. This also would come in handy for the concrete. Finally I dropped a pile of spill on there ready for excavator day X 2.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-16-2021, 5:08 PM Reply   
Excavator day 2! I got so many jobs done that I even went and did some extra farm work with it.

After a week of rain I finally got the:

Sink holes in pads filled ✅
Anchor holes dug back out ✅
Pads levelled ✅
Sand on pads for concrete ✅
Aquatic weed pulled ✅
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Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       02-17-2021, 11:59 AM Reply   
Nice! It's looking great!
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-18-2021, 4:56 PM Reply   
After 4 false starts, 2 minor rain events and negotiation with the farmers I finally have Concrete. 2 and a half months after the Rio was ready we dropped it in over an afternoon. The anchors are ugly but we couldn't form them up nicely as the edges had been eroded by the rain events. One of the issues I'd had was that the far deflection tower is right next to the lowest point on the property as well as the water way for run off from my neighbours. Every time they irrigated a field the access turned into a sodden mess and needed 3 days of dry to be able to drive on. Pretty stoked but still some big work to do... especially now that funds are getting really tight thanks to Covid.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       02-18-2021, 5:00 PM Reply   
One more of the anchor
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       03-05-2021, 11:59 AM Reply   
We're in the middle of a drought at the moment so while no rain has been good for all the work I've been doing around the lake, we're going to need something to ride on soon! Just a couple of side projects as we finally built a house. We own 20+ PFD's as we live on a river and our major rule is that no-one enters the water without a PFD on (whether swimming, kayaking or boating).
I also build a board rack. The configuration is a bit ugly but making it this way I was able to get 2 more wakeboards and 1 more skate. I will probably have to build another one down the track.
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Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       03-14-2021, 6:37 PM Reply   
Hi team, anyone on here know what kind of steel rope I should look at getting as a replacement for the old one?
Old     (LukeR103)      Join Date: Apr 2010       03-17-2021, 12:51 PM Reply   
I think the running cable is 10mm. If you want to be sure you can bring the pulley with you and make sure the cable fits in there before you buy a big spool of it.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       03-17-2021, 1:55 PM Reply   
Cheers, I got the specs from the team at WakeUnion and Sesitec also replied to an email! 8mm, 6x19 with a fiber core, galv.
Old     (razorjaw)      Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Australia       Today, 1:00 PM Reply   
Hi team,
I've been slowly plugging away at the park. It was a busy term - I didn't even get out for a boat set! We finally had some rain but unfortunately the big rain hit about 3 mile from my place - they got 130mm and I got 30 100mm would fill the lake right about now, but at least everything is greening up. I finally moved the towers into position and assembled them just before the rain hit.
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