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Old     (boofer)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-11-2008, 4:21 PM Reply   
I would like to know if you have experienced a fuel pump failure. I own a 2005 MC and it has become apparent to me that fuel pump failures in the last 6 or so years is common (way too common).

So, please list your boat (make, model, and year) and the failure that it had.
Old     (rodltg2)      Join Date: Oct 2005       07-11-2008, 5:25 PM Reply   
04 ps 197 2 failures
01 ps 190 1 failure
Old     (stevev210)      Join Date: Feb 2005       07-11-2008, 6:26 PM Reply   
05 X2=1 failure
Old     (treycleaton)      Join Date: Mar 2005       07-11-2008, 6:46 PM Reply   
buddies 05 Avalanche, 1 failure
Old     (bullit4888)      Join Date: Apr 2006       07-11-2008, 6:59 PM Reply   
06 X15 failure around 200 hours
Old     (russian)      Join Date: Feb 2008       07-11-2008, 7:27 PM Reply   
98 vlx at about 600hrs
Old     (wiltok)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-11-2008, 8:10 PM Reply   
2001 X-9 - 3 failures
Old     (gpalovcak)      Join Date: May 2003       07-11-2008, 8:14 PM Reply   
2000 prostar 205 2 failures

1@ 200 hours
1@ 450 hrs
Old     (boofer)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-13-2008, 11:01 AM Reply   
Thanks. Any more?
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-13-2008, 8:31 PM Reply   
2005 X-2, one failure.
Old     (fast355)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-14-2008, 5:43 AM Reply   
2002 X-Star 1 @ 180hrs
2004 X-Star 1 @ 300hrs

Nice poll.. Carter has a design flaw somewhere. When dealers stock 15 $500 fuel pumps on their shelves, there is an issue.
Old     (crs)      Join Date: Jul 2006       07-14-2008, 8:08 AM Reply   
2005 X2 1 @ 50 hrs.
Old     (jdrcrew8)      Join Date: Jun 2005       07-14-2008, 8:36 AM Reply   
'04 X-10: Failure at ~80hrs.
Old     (tjhooker)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-14-2008, 8:49 AM Reply   
I have owned 2 boats over the past 12 yrs. Never one fuel pump failure. Malibu vlx and a 1999 Supra Launch which I bought new with 500 hours now. Never one fuel pump failure (knock on wood). Maybe there is a design flaw somewhere.
Old     (krbaugh)      Join Date: Mar 2002       07-14-2008, 9:06 AM Reply   
Better poll

How many fuel pump failures soon after letting the boat run out of gas.

How many fuel pump failures and have never let the boat run out of gas
Old     (sulmaxwell)      Join Date: Dec 2003       07-14-2008, 9:20 AM Reply   
2 in total-never ran out of gas with it...
02 PS 209-X9
1 @ 170hrs
1 @ 410hrs
(mechanic said that the one that was installed @ 170...may not have been wired properly...)
Old     (bmartin)      Join Date: Jan 2007       07-14-2008, 10:33 AM Reply   
Never ran out of gas - 0 fuel pump failures (00 and 04 Centurions)
Old     (behindtheboat)      Join Date: Aug 2006       07-14-2008, 10:36 AM Reply   
03 197 @ around 500 hrs

It's the design of the fuel pump. All the way in the tank.
Old     (krbaugh)      Join Date: Mar 2002       07-14-2008, 11:50 AM Reply   
All Cars have the fuel pump in the tank
Old     (krbaugh)      Join Date: Mar 2002       07-14-2008, 11:55 AM Reply   
0 fuels pumps

1986-2008
10 MasterCrafts 1989 1998
8 Centurions 2000-2008
Old     (canucked)      Join Date: Jun 2007       07-14-2008, 12:14 PM Reply   
1 pump at 300 hours

2001 nautique
Old     (greg2)      Join Date: May 2002       07-14-2008, 9:27 PM Reply   
Funny....most of the failures listed are MC??
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       07-14-2008, 10:05 PM Reply   
MC is definitely over represented. Held to a higher standard alright. Ha ha.

03 Sanger 600hrs - zero failures
Old     (cavlxenvy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       07-14-2008, 10:08 PM Reply   
Let me post this with great pain. My fuel pump went out with only 7 hours on my 2007 Malibu Wakesetter VLX.... on Memorial Weekend....

First big voyage ever. I put 5 hours on it before even putting another person in it.

That happened last year. It now has 170 hours on it. (Knock on wood).
Old     (boofer)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-14-2008, 10:08 PM Reply   
That is my whole reason for asking Greg. Tim M. has the correct assumption. Visit tmcowners.com and do a search for fuel pump. You will be amazed. The pump sits in a sort of module with a filter on the end. Unfortunately, when the gas level reaches approximately 1/4 of a tank the pump is completely exposed and no longer being cooled. Not to mention, at this fuel level the pump is unable to pickup any fuel. So, your 40 gallon tank really only has 30 gallons of usable fuel.

It is a design flaw and MC is content to continue to sell the $400+ pump modules (they won't sell just the pumps by themselves). But, even if they did sell just the pumps, the system is still flawed!!!!!
Old     (power)      Join Date: Jul 2008       07-14-2008, 11:03 PM Reply   
Fuel Pump Failure at 12 hours
Old     (boofer)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-15-2008, 8:38 AM Reply   
What kind of boat Ray?
Old     (bobenglish)      Join Date: Mar 2008       07-15-2008, 9:09 AM Reply   
2005 X2 - failed at 400 hours (still under warranty) and was replaced NC. Fuel level was never below 1/4 of a tank.

As you have indicated on TMC, this is a poor design. I can not believe there is not a better way to cool the pump. Perhaps the other systems are still patented? That would seem hard to believe as we are talking about a fuel delivery system 20 years old.
Old     (dizzyg)      Join Date: May 2005       07-15-2008, 9:50 AM Reply   
06 vlx fuel pressure regulator at 140 hours
Old     (wiltok)      Join Date: Feb 2003       07-15-2008, 11:00 AM Reply   
I literally do not run my MC below 1/2 tank. I go two sessions (me and the wife) and then fill it up. I have been through 3 pumps (as listed above) but the last one has lasted about 2 years (after switching to never letting it get below 1/2 tank). No need to play russian roulette....
Old     (malibudude)      Join Date: Feb 2001       07-15-2008, 12:33 PM Reply   
Cavlxenvy,

Get going on those hours, we've got 240... lol

Our pump on our '07 VLX started going but luckily it was at the end of the weekend and I had the dealer get it fixed before we came back out the end of the week.

Not one issue on my '00 SLXI w/ the monsoon...dang good boat but had to go.. :-)

(Message edited by malibudude on July 15, 2008)
Old     (kikitlo)      Join Date: Jul 2005       07-15-2008, 12:47 PM Reply   
just got off the phone with my buddy,
his went out at ~ 390 hours on an 01 Mastercraft
Old     (boofer)      Join Date: Aug 2004       07-16-2008, 10:05 AM Reply   
This is good stuff guys. So far I am seeing a 4:1 failure rate for MC. In my book, this is an indication of a design flaw and warrants a fix and a recall.

Keep the information coming. I think that it is important.
Old     (shellyrn)      Join Date: May 2006       07-16-2008, 12:18 PM Reply   
'02 MC 450 hours--fuel pump
Old     (rio_sanger)      Join Date: Apr 2007       07-16-2008, 1:45 PM Reply   
Sanger ~ (Merc Black Scorpion) 600+ hours, original fuel pump.

We often run it down to almost empty, and the kids have run out of gas a couple of times, with no negative effects. (other than embarrassment)
Old     (taylormade)      Join Date: Jun 2001       07-16-2008, 6:59 PM Reply   
04 X2 Fuel Pump failed around 415 hours... but then I've run it out at least three times and we surf all the time. The pump CAN be removed AND can be cross referenced to the auto world, BTW. Just find an auto shop that has some free time and save yourself a few hundred dollars.
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       07-16-2008, 9:51 PM Reply   
Auto shop, free time? Good one!
Old    walt            07-16-2008, 9:56 PM Reply   
00 Sanger V210 - Fuel pump failure around 400 hours.
Old     (illini88)      Join Date: Oct 2007       07-27-2008, 8:26 PM Reply   
Brooke, what symptoms did your boat give when the regulator went out?
Old     (burban89)      Join Date: Nov 2006       07-29-2008, 4:08 AM Reply   
Installed a electric holley pump and it only lasted 30-40 hours. They sent me a replacement and it didnt even work. I am getting a refund. Going back to a mechanical pump.

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