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Old     (typhoon)      Join Date: Jul 2001       08-11-2009, 10:45 AM Reply   
Why would bullet put a coaxial and a component in a tower speaker together?Upload
Old     (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 11:25 AM Reply   
Because NVS did it first.
Old     (typhoon)      Join Date: Jul 2001       08-11-2009, 11:27 AM Reply   
what is the reason to do it?
Old     (tailgate)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-11-2009, 11:27 AM Reply   
where else would you put the other tweeter?
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 11:42 AM Reply   
NVS has not done that.
Old     (clotus)      Join Date: Mar 2009       08-11-2009, 11:46 AM Reply   
The one on the right looks like a mid-bass driver to me, which would explain it.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 12:00 PM Reply   
A component is a mid-base driver with an external Tweeter.
Old     (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 12:06 PM Reply   
"The Deviant series utilizes proven audio design technology
from our Tyrant series. The Deviant uses a 10" mid-bass speaker in combination with a 10" coax speaker and high efficiency Horn Loaded Compression Driver (HLCD)"



Straight off their web page.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 12:11 PM Reply   
"The Deviant series utilizes proven audio design technology
from our Tyrant series. The Deviant uses a 10" mid-bass speaker in combination with a 10" coax speaker and high efficiency Horn Loaded Compression Driver (HLCD)"

A mid-bass speaker in combination with a coax is not the same thing as a coax and a component.....
Old     (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 12:23 PM Reply   
Yeah but look in the pic. It's a midbass and coax.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 12:24 PM Reply   
No its not, its component and a coax, look again.
Old     (roverjohn)      Join Date: Dec 2007       08-11-2009, 1:01 PM Reply   
Why do they use names like 'Deviant' and 'Tyrant'? Seems like something along the the lines of 'Puppy Dog' or 'Cupcake' would sound a lot nicer.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 1:03 PM Reply   
This is really off topic, but I just bought a new car and the salesman's name is Demond Terrer.
Old     (skibum69)      Join Date: Aug 2004       08-11-2009, 1:09 PM Reply   
Is this really a tweeter? It looks more like tube for the bracketry.
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Old     (stewart)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-11-2009, 1:32 PM Reply   
Thats' a Polk Audio db6750 (component) and Polk Audio db675 (coax)

The component gives you tighter midbass, and external crossover with separate tweeter.
Old     (david_e_m)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 3:09 PM Reply   
At one point it was popular for Boss, Fusion, Bullet and others to mix coaxials and components. No one put a great amount of analysis into it... It was just unique.

But you don't see it much anymore. I don't agree with mixing two types of fullrange tower speakers that have a different sensitivity and different power handling. So I wouldn't ordinarily mix on the same tower coaxials with components coaxials with HLCDs, fullrange 6 1/2" with fullrange 8" and so on. A symmetrical approach will be more efficient and more effective.

David
Earmark Marine

(Message edited by David_e_m on August 11, 2009)
Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       08-11-2009, 3:12 PM Reply   
Q: "Why would bullet put a coaxial and a component in a tower speaker?"

A: Because they needed to fill that hole with something. It's really a component tower speaker with a coax bolted on as a sidecar. Pretty lame design in my opinion. I would rather just see two of the same coaxials and nothing in the hole. I would expect efficiency issues to negate the majority of the benefit of adding the coaxial at all.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 3:20 PM Reply   
I agree with Mikeski and David. SKylon did a double component a few years back.
Old     (johnsvt)      Join Date: Dec 2006       08-11-2009, 3:28 PM Reply   
no they didn't
Old     (stewart)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-11-2009, 3:31 PM Reply   
I don't think the idea was LAME, it was a good way to get some better mid bass on the tower. I had that setup back in 2003. They used Planet Audio and later they made a change to Polk. I had no complaints. I know Bullet sold a ton of them.

Here is my 2003 Malibu LSV with Bullets and custom covers.

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(Message edited by stewart on August 11, 2009)
Old     (typhoon)      Join Date: Jul 2001       08-11-2009, 3:35 PM Reply   
I did not see any benefit and did not understand why they did not put the second tweet below the first on the bottom of the same braket. The two speakers in it now have different rated power handling also.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-11-2009, 3:36 PM Reply   
Weren't the Skylon Deafcon III's 2 set's of components. They had 2 mid bass and 2 tweeters if I remember correctly.
Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       08-11-2009, 3:36 PM Reply   
In my opinion - all car door speaker tower speakers are lame

My tower speakers are used for the rider.

Stewart, that's a nice looking setup. Probably sounded very good inside the boat. I would be surprised if you could hear much of them while riding.

(Message edited by mikeski on August 11, 2009)
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-11-2009, 3:37 PM Reply   
Ewing....

TY-one-on, that is how SKylon did it a few years back on the Defcon III's I think?
Old     (david_e_m)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 4:34 PM Reply   
Stewart,

That was a good lookin' set up. Most of the current emphasis seems to be on S.P.L. Rather than clean tower integration.

Bullet's compact HollowPoint HLCDs and spun aluminum pods make it easy to achieve both. Powdercoating is still reasonably priced and quick, plus its super durable.

David
Earmark Marine
Old     (cowwboy)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-11-2009, 5:10 PM Reply   
I stand corrected. I thought that was a bracket also not a tweater.

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