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Old     (eyekahn)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-13-2008, 12:22 PM Reply   
Me and a buddy were seeing how far under the tow eye on his vlx is under water when fully loaded so lets see how low you guys sit fully weighted...
Old     (yager97)      Join Date: Feb 2007       08-13-2008, 12:43 PM Reply   
pretty low, although boat is pretty low to the water without any weight in it anyways....Upload
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Old     (helinut)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-13-2008, 12:55 PM Reply   
This one has my vote!

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Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-13-2008, 1:05 PM Reply   
I love that pic. I don't think it really is loaded as bad as it looks. I use to take water over the bow on my old direct drive closed bow boat all the time. Where he is in the wake makes it look terribly weighted.

I don't have the pic but there is one of a nautique 2001 that has about 5 700 lb sacks in it. It looks like it is going to sink.
Old     (csmsk)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-13-2008, 1:05 PM Reply   
How about this one....

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Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       08-13-2008, 1:17 PM Reply   
Here is a loaded one.
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Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-13-2008, 1:27 PM Reply   
She doesn't sit that low, but she sure gets the job done. The riding pic is at 80' and 26 mph. SLUMPIN'

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Old     (sidekicknicholas)      Join Date: Mar 2007       08-13-2008, 1:27 PM Reply   
This was from another thread
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Old     (nautiquetrevo)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-13-2008, 1:31 PM Reply   
Seen this picture before and thought it was a good example of weighting a boat Upload
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-13-2008, 1:38 PM Reply   
that is the one I was talking about.
Old    mendo247            08-13-2008, 2:37 PM Reply   
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Pic by Nick
Old    mendo247            08-13-2008, 2:39 PM Reply   
I wish that one of the boat submarning was a video, id love to see what ends up happening.

That wake looks crazy Evan!
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-13-2008, 2:56 PM Reply   
Looking good coop!

That x-star wake is crazy big.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-13-2008, 3:50 PM Reply   
Richard Coop (mendo247) on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 2:39 pm: I wish that one of the boat submarning was a video, id love to see what ends up happening.

Sounds like he goosed it in reverse & it never even came over the windshield. He responded here.
Old     (malibudude)      Join Date: Feb 2001       08-14-2008, 8:01 AM Reply   
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Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-14-2008, 8:34 AM Reply   
yeah, that is loaded down. Coop, your picture is great.
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       08-14-2008, 8:53 AM Reply   
Isn't that boat overloaded with people?

Looks like a bad situation waiting to happen esp with most consuming beer....
Old     (kurtsuncle)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-14-2008, 9:25 AM Reply   
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Old     (allen)      Join Date: Apr 2005       08-14-2008, 10:14 AM Reply   
Greg that Malibu is sitting still. They were at CIE spring ride, it was sitting low but thats a roller from BC almost going over the bow. they were tied up to other boats and out of harms way so I would say that it wasn't a bad situation at all.


HAHAHAH
That crew was nuts.
Old     (guido)      Join Date: Jul 2002       08-14-2008, 10:20 AM Reply   
Coop... Your boat is hammered down. I'd love to get a pull behind that bad boy when it's slammed like that.

Looking good. I love that pic, too.
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-14-2008, 11:06 AM Reply   
my 2000 XStar

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Old     (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       08-14-2008, 1:45 PM Reply   
Jay, please tell me you have more than one Tsunami pump on board?
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-14-2008, 1:55 PM Reply   
Jay, that is the very definition of "sacked out" Have you done the math on how much weight that is?
Old     (wakeslife)      Join Date: Jul 2005       08-14-2008, 2:27 PM Reply   
jay, how fast do you run to get a clean wake with all that weight? Also what length?
Old     (mofreestyle)      Join Date: Jan 2006       08-14-2008, 2:52 PM Reply   
Jay,
What engine do you have and how long before it get's on plane?We use to have a 205v and we put some weight in it but never close to that much. Wow.
Old    mobster            08-14-2008, 4:00 PM Reply   
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-14-2008, 4:24 PM Reply   
This is how we rock it. Nobody does low like a sanger.
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Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SLC, UT 5600'       08-14-2008, 4:27 PM Reply   
And the winner is Jay! I would say the blacked out 210 but that looks like it's in between rollers. Sanger is in clean second!
Old    walt            08-14-2008, 4:30 PM Reply   
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Old     (sinkoumn)      Join Date: Jan 2007       08-14-2008, 4:55 PM Reply   
Gerry Nunn's Bu fTw
Old     (eubanks01)      Join Date: Jun 2001       08-15-2008, 7:19 AM Reply   
I would have loved to seen this wake.
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Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SLC, UT 5600'       08-15-2008, 8:03 AM Reply   
Well if you mixing a cocktail, I would not mix the CIE Bonecrusher II with a Sanger. You would end up with another picture of Eargasam getting beat up but a little more under water! Way to throw the "sack down!" Great pics everybody...
Old     (pickles)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-15-2008, 8:12 AM Reply   
Yeah awesome pics.
I thought where the deck meets the hull was pretty much the limit to how low u could sink your boat but i suppose im wrong lol.
I still dont understand why u would spend all that money on a boat and then still have to put fat sacks and weights all over the floor.
Old     (ncboarderboy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       08-15-2008, 8:25 AM Reply   
because bigger wakes is more fun
Old    walt            08-15-2008, 8:31 AM Reply   
Boat manufacturers aren't going to put their ass on the line to maximize a wake so we pick up where they left off.
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-15-2008, 8:52 AM Reply   
pickles (pickles) on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 8:12 am:Yeah awesome pics.
I thought where the deck meets the hull was pretty much the limit to how low u could sink your boat but i suppose im wrong lol.
I still dont understand why u would spend all that money on a boat and then still have to put fat sacks and weights all over the floor.


Huge wakes help get more air, more hang time for you to get the tricks done. But descent skills do it too, good timing, understanding pop & line tension, etc. And it's easier to get a huge wake than to develop those skills.
I'm not saying everyone with a big wake has no skills, but the vast majority of monster wakes on the lakes I visit have guys who can barely jump them. Their too busy posin one handed, surfin the wake, etc.
Old     (andy13)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-15-2008, 9:34 AM Reply   
Bill- its their boat that they paid for and if they want to put 4000# of ballast in it and can barely ride thats their choice and nowhere when you buy the boat you arent required to wakeboard only behind it, be a good wakeboarder behind it. If they want the can pose with their giant wake aurf the wake or pose one handed its their damn boat and they can do whatever the fark they want with it. And im not gonna sit on my computer and shat a brick cause i saw some fool with a brand new 80k$ wakeboat and a 10k$ stereo and they can barely ride

Im not saying this is what i do, I am just tired of people raggin on other people for the way they use their boat

(Message edited by andy13 on August 15, 2008)
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-15-2008, 10:02 AM Reply   
Your right, Andy. Unfortunately the local governments are getting involved now & restricting what all of us are doing because of a few people who have pushed beyond the limits.
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-15-2008, 10:33 AM Reply   
It's not even close these guys win hands down:

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Old     (dahousecat)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 11:13 AM Reply   
I was on the sunken Sanger posted by ChrisV. We sure had fun that night. Hit a sandbar out on the Delta and it took her down.
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       08-15-2008, 11:33 AM Reply   
Isnt that the sand bar on the right side of the channel headed into Union Point?
Old     (dahousecat)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 12:25 PM Reply   
That's the sandbar heading towards Tower Park from King Island, about 1/4 mile away from beginning of vegetable garden 5 mile zone. If tide is low, and going to Tower, stay left.
Old     (csmsk)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 12:27 PM Reply   
No, it's heading towards Tower Park from White Slough by Stockton. Devil's Island (very small island at the end of little potato slough) is within 100 yards of where that boat landed.
Old     (csmsk)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 12:28 PM Reply   
Sorry, Rod beat me to it. He's right about the location too.
Old     (ian_ashton)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-15-2008, 12:36 PM Reply   
My Outback, factory 400 pound ballast full in the back:

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Old     (mc_x15)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-15-2008, 12:44 PM Reply   
How badley ruined was that boat. If you have a bunch of extra weight in it will Insurance cover the damages? I wouldnt think so.
Old     (csmsk)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 1:16 PM Reply   
Here's a video of the "Sunken Sanger"....

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=40841 650
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-15-2008, 1:21 PM Reply   
Was it a 230? How does the LSV compare?
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-15-2008, 1:48 PM Reply   
The speaker sox rack covers are holding up like a champ in that video.
Old     (audiopro74)      Join Date: Jun 2005       08-15-2008, 3:16 PM Reply   
The sanger was Petes 215. As I recall he clipped something submerged. It was up at delta for a while. The front skagg was nearly pushed through the bottom of the boat. That was definate 1 sick ride, he had alot invested in it, as far as toys.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-15-2008, 3:35 PM Reply   
Wow must have hit HARD, Sangers are pretty solid round the skegs & transom.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       08-15-2008, 3:52 PM Reply   
musta been going fast? and the transom light is in...was it in the dark?

that one seems the lowest
Old     (peterslc)      Join Date: Sep 2002       08-15-2008, 4:19 PM Reply   
Wow, some of those pics are killing me! I thought ~1800lbs threw a sick wake, looks like I need to try and double that.
Old     (pickles)      Join Date: Jul 2008       08-15-2008, 6:18 PM Reply   
Yeah i understand that fellas.
More weight = more displacement=bigger wakes.
But im pretty sure there is one manufatcurer putting their ass on the line to maximise their wake. Isnt epic dropping 4000lb of ballast as standard. Surely thats a better option than fat sacks or picking up that group of large women at the end of the bar at 2 am.
Old     (malibu_sixx)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 6:46 PM Reply   
I was also on the Sanger when it sunk and it had just started getting dark when we hit the sandbar. We weren't going fast or probably would have been killed - the impact was very hard even going slow. There is some concrete on the sandbar that will stop you on a dime. The coast guard refused to get us off the boat until it was fully submerged, so we sat on a sinking boat for 4 hours, 2 of which the sheriffs stood on shore and laughed and joked while we sank. PLEASE be careful when driving around the area mentioned above, the Sheriffs refuse to mark it because they don't want to be held "responsible" and they said there have been several very bad accidents with serious injuries there, previous to ours. AND YES, IT WAS A GREAT BOAT.
Old     (submarine_captain)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-15-2008, 7:25 PM Reply   
this is pete im the submarine captain of the purple sanger 215 aka eargasm. ya its pretty tough seeing thoes picks of my ride.It had about 15k worth of system and three video monitors on it not to mention the whole interior was don in purple flames.the 52k insurance check sure helped though.Get ready for multiple eargasm cumming soon.
Old     (doubleup720)      Join Date: Jul 2007       08-15-2008, 11:17 PM Reply   
Rumor has it your going to get a Nautique!!!!
Old     (bill_airjunky)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-16-2008, 1:37 AM Reply   
Lucy Skyy (malibu_sixx) on Friday, August 15, 2008 - 6:46 pm: I was also on the Sanger when it sunk and it had just started getting dark when we hit the sandbar. We weren't going fast or probably would have been killed - the impact was very hard even going slow. There is some concrete on the sandbar that will stop you on a dime. The coast guard refused to get us off the boat until it was fully submerged, so we sat on a sinking boat for 4 hours, 2 of which the sheriffs stood on shore and laughed and joked while we sank. PLEASE be careful when driving around the area mentioned above, the Sheriffs refuse to mark it because they don't want to be held "responsible" and they said there have been several very bad accidents with serious injuries there

This is just wrong. If this it all true, then the county, state & feds should be told that they are being help responsible..... just because they already knew of the problem.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       08-16-2008, 12:28 PM Reply   
nice! unmarked concrete lined sandbar...only in the delta...
Old     (malibu_monkey)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-16-2008, 2:36 PM Reply   
no mine, but pretty low for a bu.
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Old     (mxflyer281)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-16-2008, 4:37 PM Reply   
Im pretty sure that how epic does it is they have a lighter boat to start off with than most others. I could be wrong though?? Anyone know how they get away with 4000# legally approved? BTW been meaning to take a pic of mine from the dock got a Tige 20v and we ride around 3000# front rubrail is about 6" out of the water
Old     (marknjenn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-17-2008, 5:00 PM Reply   
I have seen the purple sanger for sale at the small boat place off 99 at mariposa / arch. I heard he is asking 15k
Old     (trippin132)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-17-2008, 9:27 PM Reply   
here is one loaded response from aust...
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Old     (andy13)      Join Date: Apr 2007       08-18-2008, 8:01 AM Reply   
whats weird is you dont see an extra ballast in the boat
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       08-18-2008, 8:24 AM Reply   
lee, thats pretty sunk homie. any wake pics?
Old     (juniorhawk)      Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New England       08-18-2008, 8:27 AM Reply   
Aside from the sunken boats and the moronic 2001 shot, I think we have a winner!
Old     (trippin132)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-18-2008, 4:48 PM Reply   
the slammed response wasnt mine so afraid no wake photos. all the ballast was lead/steel
hence the reason it looks so empty... rumours it was pushing around the 1200kg mark...
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-18-2008, 5:59 PM Reply   
Wow thats only like 2600lbs.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       08-18-2008, 6:15 PM Reply   
I would be nervous as hell driving that thing.

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