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Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-22-2009, 10:34 AM Reply   
Me and and ridewbc crew will be taking the new Axis boat out today. I will get pics and tell all how is goes for sure!!!!
Old    K.B.C.            01-22-2009, 11:12 AM Reply   
get wake pics!
Old     (cavlxenvy)      Join Date: Aug 2007       01-22-2009, 3:59 PM Reply   
we're waiting...
Old     (calexan)      Join Date: Dec 2008       01-22-2009, 6:30 PM Reply   
I'm ready for the pics....
Old     (wakeaddict9813)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-22-2009, 7:31 PM Reply   
So when are we getting these pics!!?!?!
Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SLC, UT 5600'       01-22-2009, 8:25 PM Reply   
It's 9:30 in UT, let's do this!
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-22-2009, 9:10 PM Reply   
tick tock tick tock. anyday now, lol.
Old     (lifetimewarranty)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-22-2009, 9:39 PM Reply   
CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP.... COME ON!
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-22-2009, 10:29 PM Reply   
I saw one at the show today with the Bu's it looks pretty cool Id have to say.
Old     (bsebllhglyknit)      Join Date: Jul 2007       01-22-2009, 10:33 PM Reply   
I saw the axis in person today.... Not super impressed but then again it was sitting next to a black and green bu which could of made it not so exciting
Old     (pickle311)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-23-2009, 5:37 AM Reply   
I saw it at the boat show and thought it was butt ugly. I didn't like the lines, I didn't like the way the transome slopes down to the swim platform. It reminds me of my friends old Tige and it's a pain to sit on the rear and strap on your board. The interior looks cheap, the windsheild doesn't even wrap around the side, and the tower is fugly. It's a price point boat, but you can get a comparable Moomba for less money and much better equipped. I'm not impressed at all. We'll see what the wake looks like, I'd imagine it's pretty similar to the malibus.
Old     (rbeckei)      Join Date: May 2007       01-23-2009, 6:54 AM Reply   
WHERE THE HELL ARE THE PICS
Old     (nawteek256)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-23-2009, 8:10 AM Reply   
No pics boat sunk and camera got ruined. Sorry
Old     (11silviop)      Join Date: Jan 2009       01-23-2009, 8:57 AM Reply   
R U SERIOUS TED?!?!?!?
Old     (billthom)      Join Date: Apr 2005       01-23-2009, 11:07 AM Reply   
Saw one last night at the Seattle Boat show. Can’t say I really liked it. I agree with Shane in that is has really weird lines to the whole thing. And with the patterns on the interior and exposed under seat storage it was very busy looking. Not my cut of tea. There are just too many “gimmicky” type things going on. A few examples:

The under seat storage looks ok empty, glowing with lights and all that, but imagine as stuff starts to accumulate in there it will make the boat look dirty. The nice things about boat storage is that you can stick stuff in there you don’t want people to see. With this boat, if you want it to look clean, you are going to have to worry about how your storage looks. Not very functional.

The windshield. I can’t imagine this does a good job at keeping the wind out of passengers face while driving. Maybe it does, who knows, but it’s ugly.

The tower is ugly and just way to many line changes…like the MB tower. And the black power mixed with the chrome just adds to the gimmick. Cheap looking black speakers that stand out way too much….look like radio shack.

Just looks like a boat that is trying way to hard.

Oh, and sorry no pics.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-23-2009, 12:35 PM Reply   
One thing I really didn't like was the square tubing grab rails. They looked cheap, uncomfortable and like if you fell into them it would hurt.
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-23-2009, 2:09 PM Reply   
Hey guys sorry it took so long, it has been warm today so i was ridding!!! The Boat is awesome Wakes are big and clean and the transition from wake to wake is one of the best i have ever rode. Everything in the boat is well designed and well built. I got a bunch of pics of the boat i am still up-loading so i will post them up when i get them.
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-23-2009, 2:37 PM Reply   
[IMG]http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp343/Scottwbc/P1010001.jpg[/IMG]
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Old     (tcaz)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-23-2009, 2:37 PM Reply   
big and clean wakes...oh snap!
Old     (trickyboarder08)      Join Date: Jul 2005       01-23-2009, 2:47 PM Reply   
looks NICE
Old     (ottog1979)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-23-2009, 2:50 PM Reply   
Yuk on that dash & windshield.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-23-2009, 2:55 PM Reply   
The wake looks awesome.

Was that with just the stock underfloor ballast and wedge or did it have some addition weight in it?
Old     (dhands88)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-23-2009, 2:57 PM Reply   
wake looks weak to me how much ballast
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       01-23-2009, 3:10 PM Reply   
Now kids we all know that you can't tell a wake from a picture. From my view the wake on pic number 19 looks pretty dang good to me. Its a VLX hull, it doesn't need anymore validation than that. I just want to know how the wind protection was without any side window?
Old     (wakeride26)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-23-2009, 3:20 PM Reply   
Need to see someone behind the boat to get a good idea of the size of the wake.
Old     (dabell)      Join Date: Apr 2007       01-23-2009, 3:28 PM Reply   
^^^ picture #19 as stephan points out does a good job at that. IMO, looks like a nice wake but we also need know know the ballast/wedge setup. $.02 But overall, looks good.
Old     (liquidmx)      Join Date: Jun 2005       01-23-2009, 3:37 PM Reply   
First off...BIG UPS for actually posting those pics. Most people never follow through with it.

Can we get some more specifics...factory weight, speed, line length, rider height, etc.?

Thanks for the pics though!
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-23-2009, 4:02 PM Reply   
The windshield in the boat is very user friendly. It makes is way easier to talk to and see riders in the water and blocks the wind just as good as a normal windshield dose and i think its more functional for the type of ridding we all do. We did have about a 1000 pounds of extra weight in the boat but we did not have the upgraded plug and play ballast system. The boat has a TON of power and drives awesome.

[IMG]http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp343/Scottwbc/PICT0007.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp343/Scottwbc/PICT0028.jpg[/IMG]
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-23-2009, 4:14 PM Reply   
Sorry i should have posted that in my last post...
Factory weight in the boat is 900#. Jo the rider in pic # 19 is right at 6' and was ridding at 22.7 according to the perfect pass that comes stock with the boat. We was ridding at 75 feet with the wedge down.
Old     (treycleaton)      Join Date: Mar 2005       01-23-2009, 4:27 PM Reply   
Not crazy about the look of the boat, definitely has a nice wake!
Old     (the_bum)      Join Date: Jul 2008       01-23-2009, 4:46 PM Reply   
I want to ride behind that thing!
Old     (wakeworld)      Join Date: Jan 1997       01-23-2009, 5:42 PM Reply   
I'm really curious about how the windshield works because I'm always pulling up to a dock alone and it would be nice to just reach out and grab it rather than having to get out of your seat and go around the side window. If that works, that would be killer. I'm guessing the major drawback would be winter boarding, but wind is a crazy thing, so it might not make a difference.
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-23-2009, 5:57 PM Reply   
That wake looks really good!! Considering that it only had the 900lbs and the wedge, that's nice. Just think if you were to add about another 1500lbs, the wake would just plain SICK!! I'm sold!
Old     (hillbilly)      Join Date: Aug 2002       01-23-2009, 6:21 PM Reply   
actually it would be 1900 lbs with wedge. But I agree the wake looks good.

I run more than that in my Moomba LSV and the wake is similar.

Somebody buy one and I will meet you somewhere and we can do a true life side to side comparison.

(Message edited by hillbilly on January 23, 2009)
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-23-2009, 6:24 PM Reply   
Yes sir, around the dock the windshield makes it way easier to hold the boat in place and grab the dock. I honestly could tell little if no difference in the amount of wind that pasted into the driver seat. The way the boat handled and the amount of power the boat had was unbeliaveble and i don't think it would have any problem getting an extra 1500lbs on plane.
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-23-2009, 6:50 PM Reply   
I was only referring to extra water weight. Now if you put in about 2500 of ballast, and the wedge I'm thinking it would be big and nice.
Old     (sinkoumn)      Join Date: Jan 2007       01-23-2009, 7:33 PM Reply   
Man, that grab bar on the passengers side in pic '08' looks like it would "leave a mark" if you got rocked into it! Why do you need that there in the first place??? Outside of that, wake looks pretty sweet.
Old     (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-23-2009, 8:16 PM Reply   
dont care what the boat looks like or how the wake is ,the issue is 39/42k isnt price point.The price is the big issue and if the boat doesnt look good and is semi stripped down too boot then whats the point?..

my 9 yr old dd launch has a great wake ,ill sell it too you for 19k and bam a price point boat :-)
Old     (bill)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-23-2009, 8:22 PM Reply   
BTW that lake and dam looks familiar,was that Lewisville Lake? almost looks like ricky in one pic...

ph well maybe im seeing things..
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-23-2009, 9:13 PM Reply   
The one in Seattle at Bake's is 49k I think. Not quite a price point boat in my opinion.
Old     (hdchapman)      Join Date: Mar 2008       01-23-2009, 9:33 PM Reply   
I think it is actually $39K
Old     (deltadave)      Join Date: Mar 2005       01-23-2009, 9:37 PM Reply   
Don't you guys know anything!?!? That's a TIGE wake without ballasts!
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-23-2009, 10:27 PM Reply   
It is a price point boat...... Compared to their $80K Wakesetters.
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-23-2009, 10:33 PM Reply   
uhhh my vlx didnt come close to 80K and im just a regular consumer like everyone else.
Old     (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       01-23-2009, 11:25 PM Reply   
From the wake pictures, the wake looks a lot like my 2000 BU wake -- a bit rampy -- not bad but not great. Do you agree or disagree?
Old     (raftisland)      Join Date: Aug 2006       01-24-2009, 12:14 AM Reply   
the wake looks great. I think it will be mandatory to get the extra ballast.
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-24-2009, 12:18 AM Reply   
Yes it was at lake Lewisville, but not Ricky. After ridding behind the boat i think is it a very good deal for 39-40k. You get everything that you need to have a core wakeboarding boat at a fraction of the price. Stock the boat comes with a ton of stuff that is extra on other base model boats and even more so you have malibu backing them 100%. Just my .02
Old     (westsidarider)      Join Date: Feb 2003       01-24-2009, 1:31 AM Reply   
a friend of mine was in the boat when randall had his test boat out on canyon. he told me that randall said that he could not tell the difference between the wakes from his vlx and the new axis 22
Old     (jonyb)      Join Date: Nov 2008       01-24-2009, 2:44 AM Reply   
uhhh my vlx didnt come close to 80K and im just a regular consumer like everyone else

The 247LSV does.
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       01-24-2009, 3:36 AM Reply   
Ditto Cosmo-Not really a fan of the boat, but the wake looks nice! Form follows function.
Old     (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-24-2009, 6:52 AM Reply   
Jason

Randal is not going to say anything bad about the boat that sponsors him. What do you think would happen if word got out that Randall said the boat is a POS. The wake does looks nice but it does not make up for the rest of the boat.
Old     (hehateme)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-24-2009, 7:55 AM Reply   
Funny everyone defends epic for a great wake, who cares how the boat looks. But axis puts out a good wake for half the price, all of sudden its about how the boat looks........
Old     (joe_crawley)      Join Date: Jan 2007       01-24-2009, 8:39 AM Reply   
"everyone defends epic"

have you ever been on wakeworld before?
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       01-24-2009, 9:01 AM Reply   
I doubt Randall could tell the difference cuz they are pretty much the same boat. People crack me up. There is such offense taken by Axis claiming to be "price point", no they are not giving the boat away but if you can get VLX performance for $10-20k less and still have most of the creature comforts, then what is there to complain about? Do wakeboarders have that much entitlement? Personally I like the idea of a cheaper new boat, it just gives us all another option. Perhaps MC or CC will join the party SC created and Malibu has been hanging at. We as riders and consumers win then.

Poser, know anyone that could put together a test ride?
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-24-2009, 9:43 AM Reply   
I agree with Randal on this one. We have a 08 vlx and i feel the wakes on the axis were just as good as the vlx. Coming from a core ridding point of view i think axis hit the nail on the head with this one.
Old     (bbr)      Join Date: Apr 2002       01-24-2009, 12:39 PM Reply   
Heavy and Scott are right on point on this for sure.

Heavy, we NEED to figure out a way to make a test happen. I'll make some calls and see that I can come up with.
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-24-2009, 1:33 PM Reply   
and why would we be comparing a 247 to the axis a22? completely different league of boat imo.
Old     (pierce_bronkite)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-24-2009, 3:18 PM Reply   

quote:

After ridding behind the boat i think is it a very good deal for 39-40k.




It would be interesting if this boat truelysells for this price. After hearing MC's attempt at selling an X1 at this price and Epics price of 50k, none have seemed to hold to these price points.

By the way does that price include a trailer?
Old     (lakeski)      Join Date: Dec 2006       01-24-2009, 3:33 PM Reply   
$49k w/trailer on display at the Milwaukee boat show.
Old     (longhornfan)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-24-2009, 8:08 PM Reply   
I've said it before. Those who want a new boat for under 30k need to be looking at I/O's. It's a v-drive fully loaded with a kick ass wake for 40k-45k. That's trailer, stereo with tower speakers, cruise control and built in under the floor hard tank ballast. Does Moomba or Tige have hard tank under the floor ballast in any of their boats?
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-25-2009, 1:41 AM Reply   
(longhornfan) i am with you 100%.
Old     (deltadave)      Join Date: Mar 2005       01-25-2009, 7:55 AM Reply   
Scott, you have any more exterior shots of that blue Axis or other colors? All I've seen is the red and white.
Old     (j8159)      Join Date: Jan 2009       01-25-2009, 12:29 PM Reply   
moomba outback v or axis which is best. looking at the 2009 outback at the boat show in feb malibu will be there to hope they have the axis there to compare
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       01-25-2009, 12:33 PM Reply   
Axis without a doubt, I saw both at the boatshow. Even as stripped down as the axis is it's still nicer than the outback series moomba puts out. The wake on the axis will be 10X better as well.

(Message edited by 05mobiuslsv on January 25, 2009)
Old     (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-25-2009, 12:48 PM Reply   
LSV over the Axis any day for me. $36,200 for a base lsv or $39,900 for a base Axis.

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Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       01-25-2009, 1:17 PM Reply   
Yuck. The boat show Axis looks way uglier than what I saw in the press release.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-25-2009, 1:26 PM Reply   
The Axis stickers are gross. It would look way better nice and clean.
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       01-25-2009, 1:27 PM Reply   
Aaron that moomba is beyond stripped down though.
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       01-25-2009, 1:35 PM Reply   
That Moomba LSV has Perfect Pass, ballast, and a nice wake. What more do you need in an entry-level wakeboard boat...
Old     (99_slaunch)      Join Date: Oct 2005       01-25-2009, 1:59 PM Reply   
Think of the upgrades you could do for the 3k difference on the base price.
Old     (adam_balon)      Join Date: Jul 2003       01-25-2009, 2:00 PM Reply   
moomba for sure.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-25-2009, 2:28 PM Reply   
That moomba is on a single axle trailer. That is some of the difference.
Old     (nosebleed)      Join Date: Apr 2004       01-25-2009, 2:36 PM Reply   
I agree with Cal. the LSV is probably the best value boat out there.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-25-2009, 2:39 PM Reply   
Although looking at it now th eAxis doesn't look like it has SS rubrail or cleats.
Old     (scottwbc)      Join Date: Oct 2008       01-25-2009, 3:55 PM Reply   
Sorry guys i cant find ones that i took for some reason. But i did find some on dallaswakeboarding.com Thanks to swoopUpload
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Old     (majestic)      Join Date: May 2008       01-25-2009, 4:39 PM Reply   
Seen one in Seattle today at the boat show not as bad in person. The windshield looks cheap IMO.
Old     (aidansdad)      Join Date: Sep 2008       01-26-2009, 4:44 PM Reply   
Raleigh show had a 09 ride21 for 48k....doesn't seem that the AXIS is a whole lot cheaper. No it wasn't stripped either, but it wasn't loaded up. no front ballast(N/A)/heater/shower/tower speakers.
Old     (dustin140)      Join Date: Aug 2008       01-26-2009, 7:32 PM Reply   
It's still ugly as sin.
Old     (duckguy)      Join Date: Jul 2006       01-26-2009, 7:35 PM Reply   
I'll take a used x1 any day.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       01-26-2009, 7:36 PM Reply   
I think I would rather have a ride 21 or 23 for a few bucks extra as well.

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