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Old     (Mighty041)      Join Date: Jul 2011       04-03-2018, 9:41 PM Reply   
Iím looking to buy a boat. Wakeboard and surf. No big crews, just me and a few friends. Iím partial to Malibu, I ďgrew upĒ (in my 20ís) behind a 2000 Wakewetter. Iím debating a 2018 Axis A20, a 2014 Wakewetter VLX 21, 2011 VTX. The VTX is 15K cheaper than the first two. Thoughts?
Old     (rexlex01)      Join Date: Mar 2010       04-03-2018, 11:29 PM Reply   
Malibu 22 VLX or T22 for resale value if spending that much

Last edited by rexlex01; 04-03-2018 at 11:34 PM.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       04-04-2018, 9:47 AM Reply   
Any reason why you want a 20/21 foot?

I owned 2 Axis A22s. A 15 and a 16. They were great boats. I think the popular opinion is......if you're going to spend more time surfing you want the T, and if you're going to mostly wakeboard you want the A. I personally never surf so I don't have any experience in that department.

Other things I've heard but not experienced.....the VTX does not produce a great wake by comparison. The VLX is a win all around.
Old     (Mighty041)      Join Date: Jul 2011       04-04-2018, 9:56 AM Reply   
Thanks, I wakeboard more than surf but, sadly, Iím getting older so see more surfing in my future. Iím looking at the smaller boats because 1) Thatís just what Iíve come across and 2) Storage. Iím in Vegas and finding indoor storage that will fit a 22 ft boat has been tough. Now, I would be more than happy for someone to chime in here and prove me wrong on Vegas area storage. 😁
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       04-04-2018, 11:51 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
Any reason why you want a 20/21 foot?

I owned 2 Axis A22s. A 15 and a 16. They were great boats. I think the popular opinion is......if you're going to spend more time surfing you want the T, and if you're going to mostly wakeboard you want the A. I personally never surf so I don't have any experience in that department.

Other things I've heard but not experienced.....the VTX does not produce a great wake by comparison. The VLX is a win all around.
They're like so close it almost doesn't matter.

T is slightly rampier, A is slightly steeper.

T surf wave is slightly longer but not as tall, the A is the opposite.
Old     (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       04-05-2018, 8:06 AM Reply   
Maybe look at Sanger .
Old     (Gizfaw)      Join Date: Apr 2017       04-05-2018, 10:30 PM Reply   
I been shopping around 70k as well. Moomba MAX has been looking the best to me so far. But if thats a bit big you could look at the mondo and helix for under 70k. At the boat show we didnt really like the axis fit/finish and interior. The NXT line from mastercraft was nice but seemed a little basic. We took a tour of the skierschoice factory a few weeks ago and were really impressed. We will start demoing in a few weeks to figure out exactly what we want.
Old     (ilovelake)      Join Date: Oct 2006       05-21-2018, 8:16 AM Reply   
I'm shopping in a similar price range and having a surprisingly hard time answering a few basic questions about the Axis boats - maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places?

In any case, hoping someone who has some experience with Axis can tell me:
How much (if any) factory ballast do they come with, and in what configuration? In what locations do they come setup for plug-and-play additional sacks (just the back lockers, or also the front?

I've had an 08 Malibu 23LSV for years and love it. Which Axis series (A/T) do you think has a more similar wake to that? Also, I've never used the manual wedges - how do those compare wake-wise to the power ones?

Finally, where should I be looking to get this kind of info across other manufacturers? It seems like the Wakeboarding Mag "boat buyers guide" omits ballast specs altogether, which I find hard to believe. And while I'm sure most manufacturer sites have the info listed somewhere, at least in Axis's case I haven't been able to find it yet (the boat configurator tool only seems to let you change appearances, not functional options?).

Sorry for the ignorant post, and thanks so much for any light you can shed.
Old     (simplej)      Join Date: Sep 2011       05-21-2018, 8:58 AM Reply   
900 lbs factory, as much as you want with PNP- you or your dealer installs the bag. The back takes up to 1100lbs, under bow about 650.

t23.
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       06-03-2018, 5:33 AM Reply   
I just rode a 2018 A24 yesterday. The wake was great - so far, it's the closest thing to a G wake, that I've experienced. I wonder if the A22 would get a similar result?
Old     (Surfer101)      Join Date: Oct 2015       06-03-2018, 1:55 PM Reply   
The a24 was just re designed in 2018 with a new hull. The a22 is older technology. The Moomba max puts out a great wave, same with the r23.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       06-03-2018, 7:10 PM Reply   
I watched the video on the 2018 a24. They said it was 5 inches longer, but didn't really say too much other than there was more room in the bow. You seen anything that would indicate the hull would produce any different of a wake or wave?
Old     (Surfer101)      Join Date: Oct 2015       06-03-2018, 9:01 PM Reply   
It’s a lot deeper.
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       06-04-2018, 6:47 AM Reply   
Where did you read that? I did not hear them say that on the video, did they?
Old     (three6ty)      Join Date: Feb 2004       06-04-2018, 9:30 AM Reply   
If you have $70k to spend, you would have a hard time finding anything cleaner with less hours and loaded than the previous Wakeworld Boat Dave is selling.

In my opinion it is one of the cleanest used boats for sale.
link is here:
http://www.wakeworld.com/classifield....php?view=5167
Old     (Surfer101)      Join Date: Oct 2015       06-05-2018, 12:02 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottb7 View Post
Where did you read that? I did not hear them say that on the video, did they?
Iíve been in both of them side by side. Go check it out for yourself
Old     (Padge)      Join Date: Feb 2017       06-09-2018, 3:50 AM Reply   


Iíll sell you mine for under $70k 2012 247 lsv. Immaculate
Old     (prorider17)      Join Date: Apr 2016       07-11-2018, 10:31 AM Reply   
I'd look into the Supreme S238 or S211
Old     (pimpind)      Join Date: Sep 2010       07-20-2018, 8:44 AM Reply   
Selling a 2017 T23 fully loaded with the 410 engine and trailer for around $70k. 180hours. 4yr warranty left.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       07-20-2018, 8:58 AM Reply   
I would not do the VTX.
Old     (MikeB313)      Join Date: Jul 2015       07-23-2018, 5:01 PM Reply   
I would go with a Tige R21 over the Axis every day of the week. You can get a brand new 2018 R21 for around $70K reasonably equipped.

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