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Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 8:25 AM Reply   
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do you think dems dont have jobs? Funny how you think everyone is living off your sweat.
Anyone here not work? Anyone here living on SNAP? anyone getting ANYTHING from the Gov? Unemployment? Disability? Ever? Curious. In my lifetime the only thing i ever got was the $1200 Covid money we all got months ago. Other than that ive done nothing but write checks to to the treasury and State tax board.
You need God to stop you from killing libs?
Nope, you sure do not live in fantasyland, its right wing wacko world.

Doug, Did trump get his way? is trump acting like a child?
no i dont, but i do feel that those who earn get clobbered in taxes. and I am done paying more taxes. right wing world. lets see how things play out. Simple 50% of the people want freedom, 50% want socialism. thats a fact. lets see. Time will tell
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 8:35 AM Reply   
There better be Riots, left wing riots. all the porland RIOTS better keep up. OR its all BS, and BLM is BS and total ****. as this" WAS NOT" political. its about equal rights. correct?

Nothing has changed, no fix, just a bunch of votes. so lets see the RIOTS. lets see the left continue on their defund the police? Its a scam and everyone knows it. So lets see what plays out.

there will never be another Rep pres, because the left will riot and burn, and the people will give in. LETS SEE!
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-07-2020, 8:43 AM Reply   
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no i dont, but i do feel that those who earn get clobbered in taxes. and I am done paying more taxes. right wing world. lets see how things play out. Simple 50% of the people want freedom, 50% want socialism. thats a fact. lets see. Time will tell
Your living and working and earning in Donald Trumps American tax world, if you are paying too much, attack him. Maybe you need a new tax guy.
100% want freedom, there wasnt a socialist candidate in this election, thats 2 facts.
Lets wait, time will tell, I agree 100%.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-07-2020, 8:50 AM Reply   
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There better be Riots, left wing riots. all the porland RIOTS better keep up. OR its all BS, and BLM is BS and total ****. as this" WAS NOT" political. its about equal rights. correct?

Nothing has changed, no fix, just a bunch of votes. so lets see the RIOTS. lets see the left continue on their defund the police? Its a scam and everyone knows it. So lets see what plays out.

there will never be another Rep pres, because the left will riot and burn, and the people will give in. LETS SEE!
You need to get off facebook friend, its giving you all kinds of crazy ideas. Why do you want riots? Crazy talk. You are making connections that do not connect. Joe Biden ran on increasing police budgets, why dont you know that? Did you listen to the man? Who/what told you something else? The scam is you believe something Biden never said.
Chin up bro, democratic presidents historically improve the country in many ways. Economic, environmentally, healthcare....
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-07-2020, 8:52 AM Reply   
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And so the liberal parades and marches begin ,,,,,masks. What masks. Looting and rioting already in full force.


Oh. Here’s the dem leader in Illinois who just recently locked down the state. He’s was in cloc proximity to someone who tested positive less than four days ago.

Guess his quarantine was much faster than everyone else’s. Must be because he’s the epitome of health.


https://mobile.twitter.com/LexiSutte...322519041?s=20

Bitter?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 8:55 AM Reply   
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Bitter?
no, its typical. OH by the way, how dare the left, have a mega spreading event in NYC oh my god. its everywhere, they are all partying and spreading spreading spreading. how dare those left wing evil spreaders.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 9:03 AM Reply   
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You need to get off facebook friend, its giving you all kinds of crazy ideas. Why do you want riots? Crazy talk. You are making connections that do not connect. Joe Biden ran on increasing police budgets, why dont you know that? Did you listen to the man? Who/what told you something else? The scam is you believe something Biden never said.
Chin up bro, democratic presidents historically improve the country in many ways. Economic, environmentally, healthcare....
you are full of ****. If the left gets senate majority. I will fire someone in your honor.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-07-2020, 9:15 AM Reply   
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no, its typical. OH by the way, how dare the left, have a mega spreading event in NYC oh my god. its everywhere, they are all partying and spreading spreading spreading. how dare those left wing evil spreaders.
Maybe its because i dont go look for it. Im into watching all the car shows on Motorsports channel, I spend time on a VW site and wakeworld is as close as i come to social media. I spend my spare time working on my old cars, peaceful for me. Did trump fans celebrate after his 2016 win?
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-07-2020, 10:04 AM Reply   
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no i dont, but i do feel that those who earn get clobbered in taxes. and I am done paying more taxes. right wing world. lets see how things play out. Simple 50% of the people want freedom, 50% want socialism. thats a fact. lets see. Time will tell
Yeah but trump was spending like a socialist, just not collecting the tax to finance it.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-07-2020, 10:15 AM Reply   
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no, its typical. OH by the way, how dare the left, have a mega spreading event in NYC oh my god. its everywhere, they are all partying and spreading spreading spreading. how dare those left wing evil spreaders.
Just a week ago the drumbeat was "look at how many people Trump can turn out to a rally while Biden just gets a few honking horns." Now folks are turning out all over the country to celebrate Trump's departure and you get religion on COVID? Huh.

For the record, no thanks on the par-tay for me. If I'm gonna get myself sick, it's not over this.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-07-2020, 10:21 AM Reply   
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you are full of ****. If the left gets senate majority. I will fire someone in your honor.
Tell that to your employees. No one here gives a crap. Bet you don’t have the balls to send it out in a memo. 🤣
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 10:56 AM Reply   
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Just a week ago the drumbeat was "look at how many people Trump can turn out to a rally while Biden just gets a few honking horns." Now folks are turning out all over the country to celebrate Trump's departure and you get religion on COVID? Huh.

For the record, no thanks on the par-tay for me. If I'm gonna get myself sick, it's not over this.
Nope not religious on covid, just know when you see a 2 faced group of people to run away. there are thousands gathered, as they voted for Biden to stop covid. stop the spread, oh, thats right, that was last week. Its after election day, now covid is GONE! lol Hypocrisy at the highest level.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 11:02 AM Reply   
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Tell that to your employees. No one here gives a crap. Bet you don’t have the balls to send it out in a memo. 🤣
Maybe i will fire the lib, and give their income to the conservative. The lib won't mind, they understand, have to spread the wealth.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 11:05 AM Reply   
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Old     (joeshmoe)      Join Date: Jan 2003       11-07-2020, 12:50 PM Reply   
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no i dont, but i do feel that those who earn get clobbered in taxes. and I am done paying more taxes. right wing world. lets see how things play out. Simple 50% of the people want freedom, 50% want socialism. thats a fact. lets see. Time will tell
This is America, still the greatest nation on earth, 100% everybody has freedom and 90 % want their social security and medicare. I think we became the greatest nation on earth because we have social security and medicare, along with a minimum wage, and educating all of its citizens. You probably think we are the greatest nation on earth in spite of social security, medicare, and the minimum wage, right?
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-07-2020, 1:32 PM Reply   
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This is America, still the greatest nation on earth, 100% everybody has freedom and 90 % want their social security and medicare. I think we became the greatest nation on earth because we have social security and medicare, along with a minimum wage, and educating all of its citizens. You probably think we are the greatest nation on earth in spite of social security, medicare, and the minimum wage, right?
I think we are the greatest country on earth because we are free. Taxes pay for services.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-07-2020, 11:54 PM Reply   
Oh man, this perfectly encapsulates the incompetence of the Trump/Giuliani buffoonery haha... what a way to go out. At least Rudy had easy access to his favorite adult bookstore XD

Full story:
https://onemileatatime.com/four-seas...XoACnG8LAmrgaM
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Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 12:38 AM Reply   
Choosing Jim Carrey to play Biden this season ended up really paying off last night XD

Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-08-2020, 2:51 AM Reply   
What if there is actual fraud, what if this thing gets flipped? Will the left let it go?
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 2:53 AM Reply   
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What if there is actual fraud, what if this thing gets flipped? Will the left let it go?
How’s the Hunter investigation going LOL - strange that Giuliani still hasn’t released any of the mountains of “evidence”. For a guy who “doesn’t live in fantasyland” you sure do love you some fantasy
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:19 AM Reply   
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I have provided my reasons why I voted against Trump. Your response has only been to engage in gish gallop rather than actually providing counter-arguments to my criticism and making personal attacks against me.

If your cause is just and pure then I would think you should be able to offer a lot more than insults and factually and logically baseless talking points.

I truly wish you the best Markj, Deltahoosier, and the others on here that are certain Biden is going to destroy the USA. None of your doomsday scenarios are going to happen. But I can relate to the fear of someone destroying the country that you love. I saw it actually happen for 4 years by Trump.
What reasons did you provide? Are you for higher taxes? Earth worshipping environazi cult agenda? Globalism? Open borders? Activist, libtard judges on the SC? Teaching little children about gay sex? Socialist indoctrination of K-12 students? Where do you stand on letting all the democrat rioters go unpunished by libtard mayors and governors? Do tell! Oh and what Trump policies ruined this country? Please name just a few. Also, read Romans 1 and try to tell me how you can support ANY democrat with their current views on alphabet culture.

One last thing. Trump is a pig of a person. Don’t mistake my support for his political agenda as an endorsement of him personally.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:27 AM Reply   
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Lol, rugby is a world wide sport played by many countries. Pretty sure a lot more people watch rugby than nfl
Even if that’s true, it doesn’t change what I said about it. Especially it being a sport that caters to knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing primitives.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:30 AM Reply   
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i dont think we are inward, we just do not get any info or data or communication as to what is NZ. So its like you are in the dark, and most do not go hunting for info, in countries, that usually do not have a large contribution or controversy to the world. So look at it as a positive. You are on your own island and no one is looking at NZ as a threat or a country that will change the outcomes of world mobilization. So no one is worried about what happens. good or bad, in NZ or Australia for that matter expect the people who live there. kinda a strange fact, but I am sure you both have your issues and personal opinions as to what your world should look like
NZ is inert. They are the fallen tree in the forest that no one heard fall.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:32 AM Reply   
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Oh for sure, we are very happy to be isolated from the world in turbulent times
You’re isolated in any and all times. You may as well be Giligan’s Island.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 4:40 AM Reply   
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What reasons did you provide? Are you for higher taxes? Earth worshipping environazi cult agenda? Globalism? Open borders? Activist, libtard judges on the SC? Teaching little children about gay sex? Socialist indoctrination of K-12 students? Where do you stand on letting all the democrat rioters go unpunished by libtard mayors and governors? Do tell! Oh and what Trump policies ruined this country? Please name just a few. Also, read Romans 1 and try to tell me how you can support ANY democrat with their current views on alphabet culture.
Poor Mark, sounds like a serious case of BDS
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:51 AM Reply   
Here we see how the libtards celebrate Portland style.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-...-out-and-fight
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 4:52 AM Reply   
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One last thing. Trump is a pig of a person. Don’t mistake my support for his political agenda as an endorsement of him personally.
That's one thing I find so puzzling, the right like to hold themselves as bastions of principal but it seems for many character is a totally secondary consideration.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 4:54 AM Reply   
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Poor Mark, sounds like a serious case of BDS
Never. That is disease is reserved for libtards. Even when you guys “win” you’re still losers like I revealed with the above article.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 4:57 AM Reply   
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What reasons did you provide? Are you for higher taxes? Earth worshipping environazi cult agenda? Globalism? Open borders? Activist, libtard judges on the SC? Teaching little children about gay sex? Socialist indoctrination of K-12 students? Where do you stand on letting all the democrat rioters go unpunished by libtard mayors and governors? Do tell! Oh and what Trump policies ruined this country? Please name just a few. Also, read Romans 1 and try to tell me how you can support ANY democrat with their current views on alphabet culture.

One last thing. Trump is a pig of a person. Don’t mistake my support for his political agenda as an endorsement of him personally.
Political agenda aside. Personal attacks aside. The last 4 years put aside. The man stood in the White House, Our House and attacked American Democracy. No American president in history would have said what he did. He tried to sow doubt about a legit election. He said he would not participate in a peaceful transition of power. He stood there, lied and said he won when the votes do not support that claim. Claimed Democrats were stealing the election. It was a fraud on american public. We have already won, he said. None being true, all without a shred of evidence. There was no fraud during the 2020 election, he lost fair and square. The votes were counted. There are reasons most networks pulled away from that speech, we are not a dictatorship and we never will be. His speech can only be described as pathetic, sickeningly pathetic. He was never fit for office.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 5:00 AM Reply   
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That's one thing I find so puzzling, the right like to hold themselves as bastions of principal but it seems for many character is a totally secondary consideration.
Trump was a bit of an enigma as prez as well as a walking contradiction. Terrible human being on many levels, yet governed well.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 5:02 AM Reply   
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Political agenda aside. Personal attacks aside. The last 4 years put aside. The man stood in the White House, Our House and attacked American Democracy. No American president in history would have said what he did. He tried to sow doubt about a legit election. He said he would not participate in a peaceful transition of power. He stood there, lied and said he won when the votes do not support that claim. Claimed Democrats were stealing the election. It was a fraud on american public. We have already won, he said. None being true, all without a shred of evidence. There was no fraud during the 2020 election, he lost fair and square. The votes were counted. There are reasons most networks pulled away from that speech, we are not a dictatorship and we never will be. His speech can only be described as pathetic, sickeningly pathetic. He was never fit for office.
Half the country doesn’t believe what you just said. It was not a legit election.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 5:09 AM Reply   
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Half the country doesn’t believe what you just said. It was not a legit election.
And that's trumps legacy, never before has a president worked to divide people more than trump.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 5:11 AM Reply   
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Half the country doesn’t believe what you just said. It was not a legit election.
Ok, lets keep an open mind markj. What is not legit? Please provide some sort of basis for the argument. You cant make a claim out of nothing, you have to provide some beef to that burger or its not a burger. Thus far, there has been zero evidence of any fraud. There has been more eyes on every vote than any election in history. Leftys and rightys watching the counters count. Out of 150 million votes there may be 50-60 problem votes. That isnt going to change anything. Belief isnt enough, this isnt sunday school.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 5:14 AM Reply   
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And that's trumps legacy, never before has a president worked to divide people more than trump.
Did ya catch Bidens speech. 1st thing he does is tell trump voters he will not look at red or blue states, not trump voters and his voters, he will lead all Americans. Breath of fresh air.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 5:27 AM Reply   
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Terrible human being on many levels, yet governed well.
Oh for sure, his fiscal management was out of this world.
Old     (fly135)      Join Date: Jun 2004       11-08-2020, 5:36 AM Reply   
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Half the country doesn’t believe what you just said.
That half has been marginalized. Elections have consequences.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-08-2020, 5:56 AM Reply   
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Half the country doesn’t believe what you just said. It was not a legit election.
Less that half the country voted to begin with (150M out of 325M). So you mean half of a half. And then at that, many many voters are willing to accept the results of the election. So maybe you get a half of a half of a half, at best.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 6:14 AM Reply   
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So maybe you get a half of a half of a half, at best.
Completely matches their brain mass. Coincidence? I think not.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 6:28 AM Reply   
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Did ya catch Bidens speech. 1st thing he does is tell trump voters he will not look at red or blue states, not trump voters and his voters, he will lead all Americans. Breath of fresh air.
Yeah, as his constituents continue their civil unrest and thuggery throughout the country.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 6:29 AM Reply   
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That half has been marginalized.
Not legally.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 6:51 AM Reply   
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Yeah, as his constituents continue their civil unrest and thuggery throughout the country.
we are all his constituents is what his message is.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...rce=reddit.com
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 6:53 AM Reply   
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Not legally.
Whats the legal justification? Thought that was the election.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 7:03 AM Reply   
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we are all his constituents is what his message is.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...rce=reddit.com
Tell that to your thug pals in Portland and elsewhere.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 7:44 AM Reply   
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Also, read Romans 1 and try to tell me how you can support ANY democrat with their current views on alphabet culture.
Oh so you support the death penalty for gays? Keep your religious hatefulness to yourself.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:00 AM Reply   
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Not legally.
Markj, Please explain how it was not legal? Trump said if he lost it would be because of fraud. (Same thing he said in 2016, btw). So he was apparently concerned about fraud in 2016 and was concerned about it at least again this year since he talked about it so much leading up to the election. Why then didn't he do anything to stop the "fraud?" I find this idea of "Trump the great leader" so laughable because if his stupid claims are true then why did he fail so miserably in allowing so much corruption to creep in while he was president? So much corruption that people were fixing over 4 million votes in thousands of polling places. And the corrupt people doing this were so diabolical and scheming that while cheating on all these ballots they also gave up seats in the house and couldn't secure the senate.

Think about that last part. If there was so much cheating by the left then why did they give up seats in the house? Why did they not secure the senate? Come on Markj, you won't let someone you call a RINO point out how utterly illogical your thinking is. What are your answers for this? Is the "left" truly that clever to not totally secure power for themselves?

It's completely absurd. Trump lies all the time. Trump's claim he lost because there was voting fraud is just another one of his stupid lies. I can accept that you believe he was a good leader. I can accept that you believe that he was good for the US. But if you actually believe Trump's claim that there was all this voting fraud with nothing other than a few minor noted issues and not one successful lawsuit, then I have to think that you're also confused that JFK, Jr. hasn't shown up yet.

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Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 8:04 AM Reply   
Don’t expect mark or trump for that matter to ever actually get around to any evidence. And study is too busy holding pressers in landscaping parking lots next to ***** stores XD

The democratic vote fixing machine is a beast yet can’t swing the senate or hold their house seats haha. Sounds like a pretty specific repudiation of Trump to me.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:11 AM Reply   
Markj, Deltahoosier, and anyone else here who is certain that Biden and Harris are going to ruin our country. I have a challenge for you. Write down a list of your fears. Write down a list of the terrible things that the people on conservative talk radio, Fox News, Limbaugh, etc. are telling you are going to happen. Then in a year look at your list. Look at it again 4 years later. And then maybe you'll realize that the people you listen to are lying to you. That the people that you listen to are in this for the money because by stirring you up into an identity politics frenzy they personally benefit in their fancy cars and houses.

The world and the U.S. are so much better than how the people you listen to want to portray it.

But I'll bet you won't. You'll keep listening to them. You'll keep supporting their fancy lifestyles. And when they are right about a few things (rejoining the Paris climate Accord for example, which is obvious) you'll smugly think you were right to listen to them while ignoring all the stupid crap they were wrong about (antifa taking over, your guns getting taken away, etc.)

Clinton didn't ruin the country.

Bush didn't ruin the country.

Obama didn't ruin the country.

Trump didn't ruin the country.

Biden won't ruin it either.
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 8:14 AM Reply   
They need the lies - it's the only way to justify their irrational hate (well that and cherry-picking the bible of course).

Also, cracks me up that WW censors D1LD0 haha
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-08-2020, 8:18 AM Reply   
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How’s the Hunter investigation going LOL - strange that Giuliani still hasn’t released any of the mountains of “evidence”. For a guy who “doesn’t live in fantasyland” you sure do love you some fantasy
What if there is actual fraud, seriously, maybe not enough to change the results, but if they find double. triple etc ballots. it will allow the entire system to collapse.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:21 AM Reply   
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Markj, Please explain how it was not legal? Trump said if he lost it would be because of fraud. (Same thing he said in 2016, btw). So he was apparently concerned about fraud in 2016 and was concerned about it at least again this year since he talked about it so much leading up to the election. Why then didn't he do anything to stop the "fraud?" I find this idea of "Trump the great leader" so laughable because if his stupid claims are true then why did he fail so miserably in allowing so much corruption to creep in while he was president? So much corruption that people were fixing over 4 million votes in thousands of polling places. And the corrupt people doing this were so diabolical and scheming that while cheating on all these ballots they also gave up seats in the house and couldn't secure the senate.

Think about that last part. If there was so much cheating by the left then why did they give up seats in the house? Why did they not secure the senate? Come on Markj, you won't let someone you call a RINO point out how utterly illogical your thinking is. What are your answers for this? Is the "left" truly that clever to not totally secure power for themselves?

It's completely absurd. Trump lies all the time. Trump's claim he lost because there was voting fraud is just another one of his stupid lies. I can accept that you believe he was a good leader. I can accept that you believe that he was good for the US. But if you actually believe Trump's claim that there was all this voting fraud with nothing other than a few minor noted issues and not one successful lawsuit, then I have to think that you're also confused that JFK, Jr. hasn't shown up yet.
My "answer" is I believe there was a huge amount of fraud committed. In all honesty, I'm not in the best position to articulate all of it right now. Some of it still has to be vetted. I also don't believe all of Trump's claims. As far as you're concerned, I still know you are a RINO and cannot be a christian if you support a baby-killing, alphabet-lifestyle-lovin democrat. No way. Nohow. No exceptions.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 8:23 AM Reply   
Hannity is just a regular guy like you. We all buy 870 houses with 20 different shell companies to hide the profit. We all make $80 million per year, right. Just a regular dude.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map...nitys-house-1/
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:26 AM Reply   
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Markj, Deltahoosier, and anyone else here who is certain that Biden and Harris are going to ruin our country. I have a challenge for you. Write down a list of your fears. Write down a list of the terrible things that the people on conservative talk radio, Fox News, Limbaugh, etc. are telling you are going to happen. Then in a year look at your list. Look at it again 4 years later. And then maybe you'll realize that the people you listen to are lying to you. That the people that you listen to are in this for the money because by stirring you up into an identity politics frenzy they personally benefit in their fancy cars and houses.

The world and the U.S. are so much better than how the people you listen to want to portray it.

But I'll bet you won't. You'll keep listening to them. You'll keep supporting their fancy lifestyles. And when they are right about a few things (rejoining the Paris climate Accord for example, which is obvious) you'll smugly think you were right to listen to them while ignoring all the stupid crap they were wrong about (antifa taking over, your guns getting taken away, etc.)

Clinton didn't ruin the country.

Bush didn't ruin the country.

Obama didn't ruin the country.

Trump didn't ruin the country.

Biden won't ruin it either.
...and there you go, off the cliff... Buh bye. You're as much a christian republican as I am a libtard. I'm literally amazed at how many of you idiots that call yourselves R's, but are wolves in sheep's clothing, exist on WW.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:29 AM Reply   
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They need the lies - it's the only way to justify their irrational hate (well that and cherry-picking the bible of course).

Also, cracks me up that WW censors D1LD0 haha
I don't hate anyone (including you or the rest of you libtards) and I haven't cherry picked anything from the Bible if you're referring to me.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:30 AM Reply   
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Markj, Please explain how it was not legal? Trump said if he lost it would be because of fraud. (Same thing he said in 2016, btw). So he was apparently concerned about fraud in 2016 and was concerned about it at least again this year since he talked about it so much leading up to the election. Why then didn't he do anything to stop the "fraud?" I find this idea of "Trump the great leader" so laughable because if his stupid claims are true then why did he fail so miserably in allowing so much corruption to creep in while he was president? So much corruption that people were fixing over 4 million votes in thousands of polling places. And the corrupt people doing this were so diabolical and scheming that while cheating on all these ballots they also gave up seats in the house and couldn't secure the senate.

Think about that last part. If there was so much cheating by the left then why did they give up seats in the house? Why did they not secure the senate? Come on Markj, you won't let someone you call a RINO point out how utterly illogical your thinking is. What are your answers for this? Is the "left" truly that clever to not totally secure power for themselves?

It's completely absurd. Trump lies all the time. Trump's claim he lost because there was voting fraud is just another one of his stupid lies. I can accept that you believe he was a good leader. I can accept that you believe that he was good for the US. But if you actually believe Trump's claim that there was all this voting fraud with nothing other than a few minor noted issues and not one successful lawsuit, then I have to think that you're also confused that JFK, Jr. hasn't shown up yet.
Nice Gish gallop example. Way to reveal your projection.
Old     (dougr)      Join Date: Dec 2009       11-08-2020, 8:35 AM Reply   
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My "answer" is I believe there was a huge amount of fraud committed. In all honesty, I'm not in the best position to articulate all of it right now. Some of it still has to be vetted. I also don't believe all of Trump's claims. As far as you're concerned, I still know you are a RINO and cannot be a christian if you support a baby-killing, alphabet-lifestyle-lovin democrat. No way. Nohow. No exceptions.
My argument is simple, I received 2 ballots in a my pgh home, while its not my permanent residence. Also other family members did. so why would anyone not think people sent in more than one? also, no one was checking for duplicates. Dead people voted, fact. When will we hear about it, prob never.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:37 AM Reply   
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Hannity is just a regular guy like you. We all buy 870 houses with 20 different shell companies to hide the profit. We all make $80 million per year, right. Just a regular dude.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map...nitys-house-1/
What's the point of posting this and wasting all of our precious, valuable WW time on a super-busy Sunday afternoon? Did he do something illegal? Did he take an oath of poverty when signing his Fox contract? Jealous much?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:39 AM Reply   
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My argument is simple, I received 2 ballots in a my pgh home, while its not my permanent residence. Also other family members did. so why would anyone not think people sent in more than one? also, no one was checking for duplicates. Dead people voted, fact. When will we hear about it, prob never.
Yep. My dad died early March of this year and still got a ballot too.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 8:41 AM Reply   
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I don't hate anyone (including you or the rest of you libtards) and I haven't cherry picked anything from the Bible if you're referring to me.
What part of Romans 1 were you referring to? 27 & 32 I would guess.

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27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
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Originally Posted by God
32 Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
God seems a bit ambiguous here, what does he really mean?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 8:47 AM Reply   
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What if there is actual fraud, seriously, maybe not enough to change the results, but if they find double. triple etc ballots. it will allow the entire system to collapse.
Only way to have a truly legit election is to make it in-person-only with exceptions only for extreme cases (seasoned citizens and the physically informed). All voters must be registered, ID must be required to prove your citizenship and legit residency to vote as well. All of those requirements must be adhered to for it to be legit these days. Otherwise, they're all rigged as far as I'm concerned.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 8:57 AM Reply   
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My "answer" is I believe there was a huge amount of fraud committed. In all honesty, I'm not in the best position to articulate all of it right now. Some of it still has to be vetted. I also don't believe all of Trump's claims. As far as you're concerned, I still know you are a RINO and cannot be a christian if you support a baby-killing, alphabet-lifestyle-lovin democrat. No way. Nohow. No exceptions.
So, you have no actual evidence, same as trump. Yet you want to continue to believe there is fraud. Your blind faith in trump and his lies is stronger than ties to reality. This isnt how smart people rationally think things thru. Sure, it works on Sunday at mass, but an election isnt church.

Do you believe trump lies on the regular? Lies about unimportant stuff like his golf score and lies about things that are quickly and simply fact checked...like say when he said his inaugural was larger than Obamas, check the pictures, it isnt close. how about the impeachment (not the results, the claim). He said the whistle blower lied about everything. Then he released his own "transcript" of the call and it was almost word for word what was on the whistle blower account. How about when he felt the need to change the Weather report on hurricane with his sharpie? He said "There is no longer a nuclear threat from N. Korea". NK is bumping up their nuke capability as we chat as is Iran since trump dumped the treaty. Remember when he said he would have his healthcare plan out in 2 weeks? That was 2016 and 2017, and 2018, and 2019 and 2020 when he told Leslie Stahl he brought it with him, (the night he owned the libs by walking out on the interview) it was empty. How about when he said he had negotiated China to buy $50B in agriculture products from US? Still hasnt happened and the Chinese are paying the tariffs. See, we dont really actually believe much of what he says at all, we have years of actual evidence to form a rational logical decision based strictly on past performance nothing else.
The baby-killer BS is getting old and i think it only makes you more upset. No one wants to kill babies, most just want to let people make their own difficult and private decisions based on their own circumstances.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:03 AM Reply   
This about sums it up.
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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:05 AM Reply   
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My argument is simple, I received 2 ballots in a my pgh home, while its not my permanent residence. Also other family members did. so why would anyone not think people sent in more than one? also, no one was checking for duplicates. Dead people voted, fact. When will we hear about it, prob never.
Third time you brought it up, third time i will set you straight. You could try to cheat and vote twice with two ballots. However, when they are counted, at least one would be tossed, as you had already voted. I hope i dont have to explain it a 4th time, 3's a charm. Dead people cant vote doug. 99% of the time the issue is that a son has same name and or address as son with same name, or the birth date is incorrect, instead of being born in 1890, should read 1990. If you were to apply the amount of time trying to look for problems and spreading misinfo, into researching the truth or if what you read is fact, you would be a much happier man. It takes little effort to google and fact check to ease blood pressure.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:07 AM Reply   
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What's the point of posting this and wasting all of our precious, valuable WW time on a super-busy Sunday afternoon? Did he do something illegal? Did he take an oath of poverty when signing his Fox contract? Jealous much?
ok, that was a little lowbrow. Sorry, ill behave and remember to "punch up". .
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:08 AM Reply   
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What part of Romans 1 were you referring to? 27 & 32 I would guess.



Yes. Others as well.

God seems a bit ambiguous here, what does he really mean?
How is that ambiguous? Read 28-31. He's referring to sin in general. Not just fudge packing or watching NZ rugby.

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Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:11 AM Reply   
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Only way to have a truly legit election is to make it in-person-only with exceptions only for extreme cases (seasoned citizens and the physically informed). All voters must be registered, ID must be required to prove your citizenship and legit residency to vote as well. All of those requirements must be adhered to for it to be legit these days. Otherwise, they're all rigged as far as I'm concerned.
Old (grant_west) Join Date: Jun 2005 11-08-2016, 1:55 PM Reply Quick Reply
How many of you voted by mail? This was the first year for me to do it by mail and I have to say I don't think I'll ever be going back to standing in a line to vote. Being in the comfort of your own home and taking your time and getting it sent in ahead of time beats the stress of going to the polls. My plan it to avoid ellection coverage as much as possabe watch some NetFlix and do some projects around here and or Tune in Tomarrow or late tonight and get the results
Old     (pesos)      Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Texas       11-08-2020, 9:12 AM Reply   
Again, the stupidity is hilarious. Sure mark they voted 12 times just to get Trump out but didn’t take the senate and lost 10 house seats XD

dipchits
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 9:23 AM Reply   
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How is that ambiguous? Read 28-31. He's referring to sin in general. Not just fudge packing or watching NZ rugby.
Oh, so everybody deserves to be put to death. Silly me, that makes much more sense.
Old     (joshugan)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:24 AM Reply   
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Nice Gish gallop example. Way to reveal your projection.
HAHA! What? I'm doing the Gish gallop? No. Actually you're doing it right now by not actually engaging or refuting any of my points and just throwing out more crap. I literally made an argument "Massive voter fraud from the left that cost Trump the election makes no sense since they gave up seats in the house and have not secured the senate" and your response has been to say that you believe there was fraud (again not saying anything about why the left would be so stupid to commit fraud that steals an election and still lose seats) and you also accused me of the gish gallop.

And I don't know for whose benefit you tell me I'm not a Christian, Republican, conservative, etc. Is that supposed to hurt? Am I supposed to stop and think, "Gee. Some guy who calls people horrible names and encourages them to take their own lives is calling me names and telling me I'm not certain things with which I identify. Maybe I should give that guy some credit and really consider my life?" I suppose though that it maybe helps you feel better. You can't logically argue (because there is no logic behind your positions) so instead you call names.

Honestly you seem like a decent person overall who helps fellow boaters, etc. I'd imagine that you would help anyone out in a jam. In my experience most Americans are like you. But we don't need to be so petty and call names. It doesn't change opinions. It doesn't do anything helpful.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:28 AM Reply   
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So, you have no actual evidence, same as trump. Yet you want to continue to believe there is fraud. Your blind faith in trump and his lies is stronger than ties to reality. This isnt how smart people rationally think things thru. Sure, it works on Sunday at mass, but an election isnt church.

Do you believe trump lies on the regular? Lies about unimportant stuff like his golf score and lies about things that are quickly and simply fact checked...like say when he said his inaugural was larger than Obamas, check the pictures, it isnt close. how about the impeachment (not the results, the claim). He said the whistle blower lied about everything. Then he released his own "transcript" of the call and it was almost word for word what was on the whistle blower account. How about when he felt the need to change the Weather report on hurricane with his sharpie? He said "There is no longer a nuclear threat from N. Korea". NK is bumping up their nuke capability as we chat as is Iran since trump dumped the treaty. Remember when he said he would have his healthcare plan out in 2 weeks? That was 2016 and 2017, and 2018, and 2019 and 2020 when he told Leslie Stahl he brought it with him, (the night he owned the libs by walking out on the interview) it was empty. How about when he said he had negotiated China to buy $50B in agriculture products from US? Still hasnt happened and the Chinese are paying the tariffs. See, we dont really actually believe much of what he says at all, we have years of actual evidence to form a rational logical decision based strictly on past performance nothing else.
The baby-killer BS is getting old and i think it only makes you more upset. No one wants to kill babies, most just want to let people make their own difficult and private decisions based on their own circumstances.
I have no blind faith in any man and mass is for heretics. Not christians.

What you've largely described is the fact that Trump exaggerates. He always has. He always will. I know that and accept it by understanding the context of what he's really saying and taking some of his words with a grain of salt. You libtards want to take his rhetoric and treat it like he's under oath, testifying, when in reality, it's just his schtick. His egotistical, narcissistic, smart as$ schtick. Unlike you boneheads, I'm smart enough to not waste my time wallowing in worry over it or dying on the hill, trying to discern it.

Don't care if you think the baby killing thing is getting old. There's no statute of limitations on murder. That goes for whether you're doing it or talking about others doing and promoting it. Murder is not "a private matter" you criminal.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:32 AM Reply   
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Oh, so everybody deserves to be put to death. Silly me, that makes much more sense.
YES!!! You finally get it now. We all deserve eternal death. Including me. The difference is my death sentence has been paid for by Christ who saved me.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:34 AM Reply   
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This about sums it up.
no it doesnt. Its a drawing with zero fact. Trump did nothing to make the election better prepared for fraud in 4 years, all while claiming fraud since 2016. Want fact?
Remember the fact trump and his crew ran a 3rd party mentally challenged Kanye West? Even he conceded.
Remember trump appointed a big time donor to head the US postal service in July? He immediately started to dismantle a working system with the goal of S l o w i n g down the mail. He had sorting machines disabled and removed. He eliminated overtime, eliminated all the processes they had used for years to get the mail out on time. Congress called him out, judges called him out, forced him to put things back, he still kept it up. He will be in front of judges explaining soon. How about sowing doubt about the fairness of the election, just like in banana republics. Keep as many democrats from voting as possible. Texas having a single drop box for a massive county. Georgia kicked 200,000 voters off the rolls claiming they had moved when it was not true. Republicans fought ways to make voting by mail more efficient, so it took days to count the votes. His homeland security chief blocked news of the russians attacking our election from congress, stalling action. He declared victory before votes were counted. After telling americans voting by mail was fraught with fraud, he told his followers to vote twice. Invited armed militias to the polls to frighten democrat voters. And if all that fails...Reject the election results, claim it is all rigged and refuse to leave. That about sums it up. Enough winning yet?
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:40 AM Reply   
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HAHA! What? I'm doing the Gish gallop? No. Actually you're doing it right now by not actually engaging or refuting any of my points and just throwing out more crap. I literally made an argument "Massive voter fraud from the left that cost Trump the election makes no sense since they gave up seats in the house and have not secured the senate" and your response has been to say that you believe there was fraud (again not saying anything about why the left would be so stupid to commit fraud that steals an election and still lose seats) and you also accused me of the gish gallop.

And I don't know for whose benefit you tell me I'm not a Christian, Republican, conservative, etc. Is that supposed to hurt? Am I supposed to stop and think, "Gee. Some guy who calls people horrible names and encourages them to take their own lives is calling me names and telling me I'm not certain things with which I identify. Maybe I should give that guy some credit and really consider my life?" I suppose though that it maybe helps you feel better. You can't logically argue (because there is no logic behind your positions) so instead you call names.

Honestly you seem like a decent person overall who helps fellow boaters, etc. I'd imagine that you would help anyone out in a jam. In my experience most Americans are like you. But we don't need to be so petty and call names. It doesn't change opinions. It doesn't do anything helpful.
I love your impression of "a rational thinker" here. Sorry, pal. What you did was Gish gallop, plain and simple. Go look it up.

I'm not calling you any names. Me outing you is nothing more than me telling you to check yourself if you support the libtard platform I referred to earlier and... you never acknowledged or responded to any of it. Is that because you know I revealed the truth? I think so. If not, again, as a self-proclaimed "christian" tell me how you can support a baby-killing, alphabet promoting candidate? I've asked you that many times.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:42 AM Reply   
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no it doesnt. Its a drawing with zero fact. Trump did nothing to make the election better prepared for fraud in 4 years, all while claiming fraud since 2016. Want fact?
Remember the fact trump and his crew ran a 3rd party mentally challenged Kanye West? Even he conceded.
Remember trump appointed a big time donor to head the US postal service in July? He immediately started to dismantle a working system with the goal of S l o w i n g down the mail. He had sorting machines disabled and removed. He eliminated overtime, eliminated all the processes they had used for years to get the mail out on time. Congress called him out, judges called him out, forced him to put things back, he still kept it up. He will be in front of judges explaining soon. How about sowing doubt about the fairness of the election, just like in banana republics. Keep as many democrats from voting as possible. Texas having a single drop box for a massive county. Georgia kicked 200,000 voters off the rolls claiming they had moved when it was not true. Republicans fought ways to make voting by mail more efficient, so it took days to count the votes. His homeland security chief blocked news of the russians attacking our election from congress, stalling action. He declared victory before votes were counted. After telling americans voting by mail was fraught with fraud, he told his followers to vote twice. Invited armed militias to the polls to frighten democrat voters. And if all that fails...Reject the election results, claim it is all rigged and refuse to leave. That about sums it up. Enough winning yet?
Aren't elections are run by the states?
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:43 AM Reply   
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I have no blind faith in any man and mass is for heretics. Not christians.

What you've largely described is the fact that Trump exaggerates. He always has. He always will. I know that and accept it by understanding the context of what he's really saying and taking some of his words with a grain of salt. You libtards want to take his rhetoric and treat it like he's under oath, testifying, when in reality, it's just his schtick. His egotistical, narcissistic, smart as$ schtick. Unlike you boneheads, I'm smart enough to not waste my time wallowing in worry over it or dying on the hill, trying to discern it.

Don't care if you think the baby killing thing is getting old. There's no statute of limitations on murder. That goes for whether you're doing it or talking about others doing and promoting it. Murder is not "a private matter" you criminal.
No man, when we are taking nukes there is no schtick.
A president saying he will provide a healthcare plan for americans and then not providing a single thing in 4 years is not schtick.
Saying China is buying $50 B in ag products isnt schtick.
I could provide 50 more examples, but no need, we know them all...
He is an F-ing pathological liar are you smart enough to understand that?.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 9:45 AM Reply   
Are anyone else's fingers tired? Mine are. Need a break. I'll be back.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       11-08-2020, 9:46 AM Reply   
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YES!!! You finally get it now. We all deserve eternal death. Including me. The difference is my death sentence has been paid for by Christ who saved me.
Lol, that's like Trump asking for credit when he puts out a dumpster fire he just lit.
Old     (95sn)      Join Date: Sep 2005       11-08-2020, 9:58 AM Reply   
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Aren't elections are run by the states?
Yes. The post office operates in every single one of them. Republicans made voting harder in the states they control. Trump claimed fraud in 2016, did nothing, thought a business man could get things done in the swamp. If there was fraud and he did nothing, he is a failure. Did slowing the mail help in the 2020 election or create more issues? Failure. Did the armed militias help? Failure. State didnt stop him from running kanye. Failure. He claimed victory before the votes were counted from the WH, Dignity, integrity and credibility stop that, not states. Pres has unlimited power, ask him.
Old     (shawndoggy)      Join Date: Nov 2009       11-08-2020, 10:06 AM Reply   
Man the long and short of this is that trumps irrational fear of mail in ballots, which a big (but not complete) chunk of his supporters bought into, bit him in the butt. Yes there was a red wave of Election Day voting, but it’s not as convenient and those who were too scared to vote by mail and couldn’t make it to the polls are now potential votes lost.

I was listening to XM 125 driving around town today, and the conservative radio callers make Mark and Delta seem like completely reasonable elder statesmen. Today I learned that Obama and Pelosi are in on the fix, and that this vote shouldn’t count because nobody in the MSM is talking about FISA warrants. With a decent slice of the R electorate looking for the boogieman under every rock it’s not surprising that it’s hard to keep them focused on showing up and voting (btw we Dems have our own crazies and voter turnout issues, to be sure).
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 10:07 AM Reply   
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Lol, that's like Trump asking for credit when he puts out a dumpster fire he just lit.
What is like that? Not sure what you're saying.
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       11-08-2020, 10:29 AM Reply   
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Man the long and short of this is that trumps irrational fear of mail in ballots, which a big (but not complete) chunk of his supporters bought into, bit him in the butt. Yes there was a red wave of Election Day voting, but it’s not as convenient and those who were too scared to vote by mail and couldn’t make it to the polls are now potential votes lost.

I was listening to XM 125 driving around town today, and the conservative radio callers make Mark and Delta seem like completely reasonable elder statesmen. Today I learned that Obama and Pelosi are in on the fix, and that this vote shouldn’t count because nobody in the MSM is talking about FISA warrants. With a decent slice of the R electorate looking for the boogieman under every rock it’s not surprising that it’s hard to keep them focused on showing up and voting (btw we Dems have our own crazies and voter turnout issues, to be sure).
If your voters had to even show ID, Trump would have won in a landslide. Your party is chocked full of criminals. In fact, you guys just literally voted in felons' ability to vote. The aversion to mail-in is ballot harvesting-which is a known libtard cheating tactic. That's why you guys keep pushing for it.

What's truly amazing is Trump's ability to get the votes he did when his opponents "buy ink by the barrel."
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