How many before "Its In the Bag!!"

Knowing that we all guard our 'bags' more than our wives and girlfriends.....the Evan and Al thread earlier got me laughing. How many times do you have to land a trick before its officially in the bag? The CIE guys say 3?(or said 3 to Mike sorry If I'm mispeaking here)

Back in the day when I got my boat we were all floating and drinking and figured it was 6, so thats always stuck on my boat. Mind you this wasnt based on any scientific or otherwise useful data/scale...Just 6!!

What's ur number? hahahahaha

I say it depends on the trick, but usually when I learn something new I try to land it twice that day. If I don't get it twice in one day, then I would say 3 is my number.

A new trick counts at 2...and is reliably stomped at 15-20 landings or so and everything inbetween is still a gamble.

Mine was 3 too before I went to college. Then I had those days where I could land just about anything and everything... but the trick wouldn't come back, sometimes ever. I'd say 30+ nowadays.......

1. Luck
2. Coincidence
3. Skill

Still....I like to land 5 before I say it's in the bag, and even then....stuff comes and goes.

After ten some what consecutively or you lose count is what i always considered in the bag. If you can't throw it down just about whenever I think it's still being worked on. But that's just me ramblin.

If you can land it consistently, it's in the bag. If it's still a toss-up, then it doesn't matter how many times you have landed it before, it's not in the bag.

I say It Must be Three Consecutive Sets, i.e. different days. Maybe it's just me but there is only one trick I can always do, no matter what, bad conditions, etc. and that is a half cab which is even more consistant than my heelside 2 wake jump, I thought I had a s/w t/s 3 on lock, 5 consecutive sets, landed 8 times, and lately I've been spinning to early, going off axis, and falling, so I'd say it's out of the bag, has that ever happend to anyone else?

ha, ha, ha.... I guess I had to know this thread was coming after the other one.

When I can land a trick first try every set, then I know I truly own it.

Otherwise, I agree with Jarrod:

1. luck
2. coincidence
3. skill

Yea it is never about how many you've landed. It is about how many out of how many you can land, the percentage. Now the percentage can be debatable. I'd say 80-90% and it's in the bag.

I like to land it at least twice before saying "i've landed it" but "in the bag" depends more on consistency than times landed.

I usually land a trick twice before I say I landed it.
Then I'd say 5 or 6 times with very few falls before I say I can do the trick.
But most of the time I say nothing at all and pull it out of my secret bag when wanted.
The Bag must be kept sacred.

(Message edited by kristian on July 07, 2008)

i usually like to hit something a few times in a row...same set same day...then come back and do it again another day or two and then i'll say i can do it...i usually put it in the bag and never do it again...hahahah

When I started riding back in the early 90's, before you could claim you had a trick "in the bag", you had to stick it 5 times IN A ROW. It didn't count if it wasn't in succession.

We always have said that you have to land 3 in a row to truly claim it.

I think 3 is too few, unless it is three in a day, and 3 days in a row. I once did 3 heel 5s in a row, then lost the trick for two years...

"In the bag" to me means its your warm up trick, or the one you know you'l land 9 out of 10 times.

For me it's time. If I can do it every time I try it for a month straight then I can claim it.

Maybe it's cause I don't ride as much as some of you guys, but I feel like I have a large "bag" of tricks but about half of them take me at least 2 tries to land on any given day. So I'd say if you've landed a trick more than once, it is "in the bag" of tricks you can pull out. If thats not the case I don't have very many tricks in my bag.

11 times out of 10 tries. then it will be in the bag

2 to make it TRUE

guess I suck, or have high expectations, but I have been riding for four years every week, and I have NOTHING in the bag. Not even wake to wake. nothing is what I want. Allways wish it was more clean, bigger or more consistant. I suck.

Some friends of mine have discussed this ad nauseum, and have finally agreed that you have to land it 3 times, but at least one of those times needs to be behind a boat other than yours.

And landing it behind an '03 X-2, then an '08 X-1 doesn't count. They need to at least throw a different wake.

This is a good thread topic...I like it.

I might be a bit harder on myself but I wont say I can "land" a trick until I've done 5. Its "in the bag" after I've landed atleast one a day for 5 consecutive days, for a total of 10.

(after that I try to bring it up to a 90% consistency rate before I put it in my stock run)

If you can land it consistently, it's in the bag. If it's still a toss-up, then it doesn't matter how many times you have landed it before, it's not in the bag.

I agree 100%.Nicola has landed about 10 crowmobes and 5 or 6 handle pass KgB's.But these are not in the bag. Not by a long shot.Absolute lottery every time.

I've landed one 3 each set i've gone out for the past three sets. Twice behind my boat and one behind an i/o. Still don't consider it in the bag. I consider 2/3 landed per set, in the bag.

Oh and add to that:

I gotta be able to land it first try of every set too.

I think there are different levels of "in-the-bag"

1. riding with friends or free riding, your just having fun, no pressure, - if you land 50-70% its in the bag.

2. Competition riding - it's not in your run until your 100% confident you can land the trick under pressure. Many riders put tricks in at the end of a pass that they are not 100% confident on, you have to start somewhere, but you don't win competitions with tricks that you only land 50% of the time.

George- I def. agree with you.

In contests I go by Murphy's Law: What can go wrong will go wrong.

When I told Mike 3 I ment 3 in a row, nothing in between.

i agree with the 3 in a row.....

and i did that. i actually got 5 before i tried it heel and fell on my face hahaha

This is funny..
Since this thread started, when someone throws a new move, the driver or someone in the boat holds up a number (5..as in more times to go! haha. makes it fun)

if you can land one you can do it again for sure.

IMO, in the bag means being able to stick it consistently. I don't think its a certain number, because you could land 10 5's out of 100 tries, and to me that isn't "in the bag". However, that just my opinion.

I would say that if you land a trick once on film than you can prove you have landed it. Putting it in the bag definitely requires consistently landing the trick. "Getting out of the water" is the only trick that I have in the bag.

but what are the chances of landing 10 5s "in a row" out of 100 tries. it could happen, but if you can do 5 in a row. generally this means in the bag. and i think this rule should have a time limit as in one season. so if you did it 5 times in a row last season. you have to do it again to claim it still in the bag