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Old     (Talonsorensen)      Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gig harbor Washington       09-03-2014, 5:15 PM Reply   
got a little wild this weekend!
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Old     (hyperliquidliteforce)      Join Date: Aug 2013       09-03-2014, 5:22 PM Reply   
Wake pictures?
Old     (rockballer)      Join Date: Jun 2014       09-03-2014, 5:23 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by hyperliquidliteforce View Post
Wake pictures?
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Old     (Bumpass1)      Join Date: Oct 2010       09-03-2014, 6:20 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by rockballer View Post
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x1000
Old     (hyperliquidliteforce)      Join Date: Aug 2013       09-04-2014, 5:29 AM Reply   
No wake pics or it didn't happen. I wonder what a g would be like with the rub rail in the water. :0
Old     (DatTexasBoy)      Join Date: Aug 2012       09-04-2014, 6:42 AM Reply   
Dang, I bet that thing is sick!
Old     (mro)      Join Date: Jun 2008       09-04-2014, 6:45 AM Reply   
Ya those bags look photoshopped
Old     (scottb7)      Join Date: Oct 2012       09-04-2014, 8:13 AM Reply   
I would not mind seeing the wake.. But more importantly I would like to see the tricks you do with all that weight. Because I would NOT be impressed if you have all that weight on a G21 and the tricks are not EPIC.
Old     (mark197)      Join Date: Dec 2009       09-04-2014, 8:24 AM Reply   
^ haha heelside hero!
Old     (MICAH_HARPER)      Join Date: Apr 2010       09-04-2014, 10:09 AM Reply   
can yall not just enjoy the freakin picture.

I Hate WakeWorld when people post yalls kind of crap
Old     (downfortheride)      Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SLC, UT 5600'       09-04-2014, 10:22 AM Reply   
It's like a bounce house inside a boat! We have to see pictures of this wake PLEASE...
Old     (cjh1669)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-04-2014, 12:17 PM Reply   
From my exp behind a G21 not sure I'd enjoy that wake weighted like that, hell full stock ballast is a super peaky wake that pops pretty weird. Little above half ballast on that boat is the best wake I've ever ridden
Old     (markj)      Join Date: Apr 2005       09-04-2014, 2:38 PM Reply   
Maybe it was only set up that way for surfing, despite the wakeboards being there?
Old     (Talonsorensen)      Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gig harbor Washington       09-04-2014, 3:36 PM Reply   
hey guys got out again pictures aren't the best because of it being on a cell phone
and honestly it doesnt get that much bigger just gets more lippy and harder
and no I'm not a heel side hero honestly just a expert level rider that likes big wakes.
my buddy is coming out tonight and should have some better stuff.
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Old     (hyperliquidliteforce)      Join Date: Aug 2013       09-04-2014, 7:26 PM Reply   
That wake looks so good. I wonder what a loaded 23 would look like. That 21 is almost the biggest wake I've seen.
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       09-04-2014, 7:30 PM Reply   
That looks very good!
Old     (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       09-04-2014, 10:54 PM Reply   
Sick! Video?
Old     (seth)      Join Date: Sep 2002       09-05-2014, 12:11 AM Reply   
I need that.
Old     (bryce2320)      Join Date: May 2012       09-05-2014, 4:31 AM Reply   
Old     (tn_rider)      Join Date: Dec 2009       09-06-2014, 12:19 PM Reply   
I'm assuming this boat has the 555?
Old     (brian_young)      Join Date: Dec 2003       09-06-2014, 1:49 PM Reply   
Depending on what is hiding in the lockers, the 409 could handle what we can see. Per his profile location, doesn't look like they are at any altitude.
Old     (laptom)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-06-2014, 3:24 PM Reply   
That is what I call a wake!
Old     (OneCent)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-06-2014, 5:11 PM Reply   
cool wake.. so what trick did you with that big wake you could not do with the factory ballast wake? ;-)
Old     (aricsx15)      Join Date: Jan 2014       09-06-2014, 5:56 PM Reply   
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Depending on what is hiding in the lockers, the 409 could handle what we can see. Per his profile location, doesn't look like they are at any altitude.
Dead hookers?
Old     (logan)      Join Date: Dec 2011       09-07-2014, 5:16 PM Reply   
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Dead hookers?
Comment of the year.
Old     (brian_young)      Join Date: Dec 2003       09-07-2014, 8:06 PM Reply   
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Dead hookers?
What is the density of dead hookers? Might be a better option to lead. I bet they cost less than $1/lb.
Old     (laker13)      Join Date: Jul 2009       09-09-2014, 2:57 AM Reply   
G21 loaded
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Old     (Andy_Elliott)      Join Date: Jun 2011       09-09-2014, 9:26 AM Reply   
I just jizzed
Old     (Rich_Bruening)      Join Date: Sep 2010       09-09-2014, 6:48 PM Reply   
I got a rare chance (as a nebraska boy) to ride a g23 in milwaukee, WI about a month ago during a dealers boat demo day. I'm not anything to brag about (3's, rolls, tantrums, a few raleys under my belt) and to say the least, I was scared. Granted, the boat was fully loaded. So we headed out on the water and I was 3rd rider. It was a tight lake cove and I only got 1 jump per pass due to the time it took for the wake to clean back up after the P-turn (no powerturns here boys)
Needless to say, the wake was big, bigger than anything I've ever ridden. The biggest difference I myself noticed was the lip and water level between the wakes. Unlike most other boats, the wake between the 2 lips on the G was a lot higher than the prop chop directly behind the boat. It was like trying to jump over a canyon and if you didn't make it, wave goodbye to your knees.
The reason I say all this is because I got an even more rare chance to ride a Ronix Demo Day a few years ago with Danny Harf. We rode a X25 with about 12 people in it. After my ride, I talked to him about riding for Nautique. He said his G23 was on order and about to arrive in a few months. He told me that he's ridden it fully loaded. So of course I had to ask...What's it like stock full...and then some?!?! The short answer, "Depressing, it only gets worse after stock, and its just not worth it." Talk about a curve ball.

All that being said, I'm glad I didn't ride full and then some, because apparently it just starts to wash out. Sorry to break some hearts out there. I hope I'm wrong after a new hull gets developed under that massive cabin and interior space. That would just be the end of all other boats. And if someone figured out how to add weight to the G and still keep the wake clean without going 40mph, I'm sure they are too busy enjoying the wake on the lake and not making a post about it.

Before I submit this post, I want to make it aware that I have a newfound respect for Nautique boats after the Wisconsin Boat Demo Day. They really make a clean, functional, jaw dropping boat.
Old     (you_da_man)      Join Date: Sep 2009       09-09-2014, 7:30 PM Reply   
^^^ I rode a G23 once and you are correct that the inside to out wake is bigger than a lot of boats regular wakes if you go heavy on the ballast
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-09-2014, 7:59 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Rich_Bruening View Post
I got a rare chance (as a nebraska boy) to ride a g23 in milwaukee, WI about a month ago during a dealers boat demo day. I'm not anything to brag about (3's, rolls, tantrums, a few raleys under my belt) and to say the least, I was scared. Granted, the boat was fully loaded. So we headed out on the water and I was 3rd rider. It was a tight lake cove and I only got 1 jump per pass due to the time it took for the wake to clean back up after the P-turn (no powerturns here boys)
Needless to say, the wake was big, bigger than anything I've ever ridden. The biggest difference I myself noticed was the lip and water level between the wakes. Unlike most other boats, the wake between the 2 lips on the G was a lot higher than the prop chop directly behind the boat. It was like trying to jump over a canyon and if you didn't make it, wave goodbye to your knees.
The reason I say all this is because I got an even more rare chance to ride a Ronix Demo Day a few years ago with Danny Harf. We rode a X25 with about 12 people in it. After my ride, I talked to him about riding for Nautique. He said his G23 was on order and about to arrive in a few months. He told me that he's ridden it fully loaded. So of course I had to ask...What's it like stock full...and then some?!?! The short answer, "Depressing, it only gets worse after stock, and its just not worth it." Talk about a curve ball.

All that being said, I'm glad I didn't ride full and then some, because apparently it just starts to wash out. Sorry to break some hearts out there. I hope I'm wrong after a new hull gets developed under that massive cabin and interior space. That would just be the end of all other boats. And if someone figured out how to add weight to the G and still keep the wake clean without going 40mph, I'm sure they are too busy enjoying the wake on the lake and not making a post about it.

Before I submit this post, I want to make it aware that I have a newfound respect for Nautique boats after the Wisconsin Boat Demo Day. They really make a clean, functional, jaw dropping boat.
It would seem that the pictures above directly contradict your theory that a G23 wake washes out when you apply ballast on top of the stock ballast. There is also a lot of pictures and info on this forum that shows these G boats slammed with 2000-3000 over stock and the wakes are clean at 23.5-24.5 mph if I am not mistaken
Old     (biggator)      Join Date: Jul 2010       09-09-2014, 8:23 PM Reply   
ironJ runs a bunch of extra weight in his - plenty of pics and videos of his around.
Old     (rmotoxxx711)      Join Date: Oct 2008       09-09-2014, 11:48 PM Reply   
g23 wake get smaller with added weight on top of the stock ballast??? nothing could be further from the truth. even ray charles can see that wake gets bigger with added weight. the only thing that gets smalle with more weight with that boat is my discs in my back when i land in the flats... best wake in the business
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-10-2014, 9:58 AM Reply   
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That wake looks so good. I wonder what a loaded 23 would look like. That 21 is almost the biggest wake I've seen.
Loaded G23 right here.
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Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-10-2014, 11:02 AM Reply   
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I just jizzed
^^^ And giggled like a schoolgirl

How fast are you running, Jay? Less than 40 I presume.
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       09-10-2014, 11:04 AM Reply   
^^^^^^Look at the LIP on that Mutha!!!!!!!!!
Daaaaaamnnnnnn GINA!
Old     (JamesHawk101)      Join Date: Sep 2012       09-10-2014, 12:51 PM Reply   
I have ran 1,200 over and it doesn't get worse at all. Just harder and bigger. Somehow I doubt Danny said that seeing that other Nautique team riders run 8000lbs total. (JD Webb, Mike Dowdy)
Old     (willyt)      Join Date: May 2010       09-10-2014, 1:12 PM Reply   
don't feed the troll!
Old     (ironj32)      Join Date: Jan 2007       09-10-2014, 1:34 PM Reply   
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^^^ And giggled like a schoolgirl

How fast are you running, Jay? Less than 40 I presume.
24.3 mph @ 77.5 ft. it'll stay clean down about 23.5 mph.

JD and Scott Stewart actually spent 5 days up here with me this summer. They both said multiple times throughout the week how impressed they were with our setup, and that they were going to change their configuration to match ours. We just run it with the weight more equally distributed. From the far rear, all the way up through the midship seats, and then into the bow.
Old     (stxr_racer)      Join Date: Jun 2006       09-10-2014, 3:41 PM Reply   
Stock 23 wake
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Old     (robholihan)      Join Date: Mar 2011       09-11-2014, 9:16 PM Reply   
Loaded 23.... 750's in back, 600 in the middle, 1000 up front... plus full factory
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Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-11-2014, 9:36 PM Reply   
Boat manufacturers: Lets make a boat that makes a wake so massive there is no need to add ballast.
Wakeboarders: Wow, this is so cool. Wonder what happens if we add another 3000 pounds
Old     (beleza)      Join Date: Mar 2010       09-12-2014, 1:06 AM Reply   
^^^^^ for real. That pic with stock wake looks plenty monstrous for my liking! But then again, I'm not trying 1080's anytime soon.
Old     (laptom)      Join Date: Apr 2002       09-12-2014, 1:09 AM Reply   
Haha... Darren, so true.

I cannot imagine why you need extra ballast on a G. Those wakes a massive, but then again. I'm not a pro, like 99% of the wakeboarders ;-).
Old     (wakebordr11)      Join Date: May 2001       09-12-2014, 6:51 AM Reply   
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Haha... Darren, so true.

I cannot imagine why you need extra ballast on a G. Those wakes a massive, but then again. I'm not a pro, like 99% of the wakeboarders ;-).
If its fun, do it bro. Same argument can be made in a lot of ways - like why do 99% of riders need ballast on any wakeboat Or why do you hit a double up if you aren't going to throw a speed ball. Because its fun!

I know if I had the means, I would own a G and the ballast tanks would probably be full 100% of the time as it gets stored on a mooring, and we would likely toy with weight over stock.

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Old     (tripsw)      Join Date: May 2006       09-12-2014, 9:29 AM Reply   
God I love threads with G-wake-pics!
Now to find one to ride...
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       09-12-2014, 9:36 AM Reply   
^^^^yup
Old     (Redheadd)      Join Date: Apr 2014       09-12-2014, 10:08 AM Reply   
Damn!!! Trying to convince my boy to swoop one right now!!
Old     (Talonsorensen)      Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gig harbor Washington       09-12-2014, 11:28 AM Reply   
So.... was out yesterday only running 2 400s in midship trying to get some decent photos before the seasons done in the NW
and bam! boat started shaking and then a loud bang and the boat came to a stop. shaft snapped.
pretty bummed to say the least.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       09-12-2014, 12:08 PM Reply   
I knew there was a reason I am not considering a G.
Old     (Nordicron)      Join Date: Aug 2011       09-12-2014, 3:07 PM Reply   
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I knew there was a reason I am not considering a G.

For me it's the $100k+ price tag. Yeah a broken shaft would suck but Nautique will fix that eventually!
Old     (migs)      Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SF Bay Area       09-12-2014, 3:20 PM Reply   
Actually good for him it snapped. Itll be replaced & it wont happen again. Now he knows for sure he had the bad bach of shafts. If you wanna find something positive about it. Sucks nonetheless.
Old     (polarbill)      Join Date: Jun 2003       09-12-2014, 3:39 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Nordicron View Post
For me it's the $100k+ price tag. Yeah a broken shaft would suck but Nautique will fix that eventually!
I knew there was some other reason
Old     (Pad1Tai)      Join Date: Jan 2013       09-12-2014, 4:02 PM Reply   
Bummer.. Did you lose the prop when the shaft snapped like some of the other guys? Or did the rudder hold it on..
Old     (xstarrider)      Join Date: Jun 2007       09-12-2014, 9:00 PM Reply   
The broken shafts are reaching a level where we can finally sag something is severely wrong here.

My own conspiracy theory

The shafts were originally designed to push closed bow ski boats. Now a days factory ballast is the size of these old ski boat. Engines have gone from 260hp now up to 450hp. Boat weights have doubled , ballast levels have tripled. Just look at the posts in this thread. 7k on top of factory. 14.5 inch diameter props with crazy torque.

What's the it piece that hasn't changed in this entire equation to get beefier???????? The same ol 1 1/8 prop shaft. It's about time to give that a look see
Old     (phathom)      Join Date: Jun 2013       09-14-2014, 11:33 PM Reply   
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why do 99% of riders need ballast on any wakeboat Or why do you hit a double up if you aren't going to throw a speed ball. Because its fun!
Since I saw the Joe Dirt pic up above, this goes perfectly in line
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Well, huh, might as, might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?

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