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03-31-2005, 3:09 PM
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i have wanted to know how big some wakes can get. I tried to search in the archieves and cant find any,so please post pics of your sick wakes.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
03-31-2005, 3:34 PM
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here is our 04 malibu wakesetter LSV running stock ballast, 4 people, 1/3 tank of gas, no wedge. I was ridding about 19mph that day. at like 55-60 ft i forget.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
03-31-2005, 4:04 PM
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04 SSV w/ the gravity games bags. He's @ 75ft off @ around 23.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
03-31-2005, 6:52 PM
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quote:04 SSV w/ the gravity games bags. He's @ 75ft off @ around 23.
Hey I thought I was at 80, someone lied to me! . That wake was niiice that day.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
03-31-2005, 7:03 PM
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It might have been, hell I don't know. I can't keep track with these types of things.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
03-31-2005, 7:33 PM
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2000 Mob-V Gravity Games Ballast, 75 feet back, 22.5mph.
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04-01-2005, 6:59 AM
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2004 Svfara SV609 @75ft 21.5mph
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Join Date: Oct 2004
04-01-2005, 9:14 AM
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Here it is with 5 adults and 1000lb of ballast. Riding at 21.5 mph and at 70ft. 04 Sanger V215 (Message edited by Sanger215guy on April 01, 2005)
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04-01-2005, 9:43 AM
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* 05 Pro-V, stock ballast, 2/3 tank, 1 case Red Bull. * 3 1/2 people (Lucy only weighs 120 soaking wet) * 75ish ft, 22mph * model - Big Ed, photographer - Antbug
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Join Date: Mar 2005
04-01-2005, 11:36 AM
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that Svfara wake is real nice.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
04-01-2005, 11:59 AM
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I think the sanger wins
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Join Date: Mar 2003
04-01-2005, 12:08 PM
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has to be the B-52, look how small the guy looks compared to the wake!!!!!! thats nuts!
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Join Date: Jul 2004
04-01-2005, 12:19 PM
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Its hard to tell on that one, hes in the air
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tyler
04-01-2005, 1:16 PM
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where's the CC and MCs?
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Join Date: Jul 2004
04-01-2005, 1:41 PM
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04 VLX stock MLS + wedge, 2 peeps in the boat, 75' at about 21 mph. Not the best pic- we just came out of a turn.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
04-01-2005, 2:20 PM
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'92 sunsetter w/ 2 people and a cooler! oh yeah
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Join Date: Jun 2002
04-01-2005, 3:48 PM
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1995 Ski Nautique 197. 800lbs ballast + 4 people
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04-01-2005, 4:01 PM
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04 VLX with stock ballast. My son Derek!
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Join Date: Nov 2001
04-01-2005, 4:05 PM
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Here's the old guy, me! We ride at 75 ft.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
04-01-2005, 8:26 PM
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Thats no Pro V, This is a Pro V.
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Join Date: Aug 2004
04-01-2005, 8:59 PM
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Here's a 2003 X2 with factory ballas plus 3 550 sacs. The guy boarding only has one hand. This is right before he does his first backroll after losing his right hand. Sorry for the small pic but its a capture off a vid. The guy is 6 ft. for reference (Message edited by skibum69 on April 01, 2005)
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Join Date: Nov 2004
04-01-2005, 9:59 PM
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heres the grand daddy of wakes... 04 x-star with 3,000 lbs of real ballast. not including gear, gas, and peeps, cause who really counts all the extras..--that ones for you Antbug ...LOL (Message edited by big x-star on April 01, 2005)
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Join Date: Jun 2002
04-01-2005, 10:03 PM
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Joe - you gotta weight that pro-v down. Like 2000 lbs. + is good.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Minnesnowda
04-01-2005, 11:47 PM
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04-02-2005, 4:02 AM
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uh, this would be the grand daddy of wakes. super air with 1500lbs of extra weight and 5 people in the boat. rider = me = 5'9" @75' rope (including the handle)
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Join Date: Aug 2004
04-02-2005, 4:59 AM
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there is more than size of the wake....the steepness and the thickness are other factors. and how the boat is weighted..no two boats are weighted the same way...weighing is a very dynamic preference.. i have a cc 211 and have ridden behind a weighted 210, bu,x2, and xstar..... the wakes had different characteristics.... the cc will be the steepest with the most "pop" (the 210 will be the steepest, the 211 a little less pop at top)...captain insano(jeff f. has one of the cleanest, ramp, and pop wake i have ridden on a 210) the mc will be rampy (kevin x-star has the BIGGEST wake i have seem or ridden..it is also very wide) the bu is somewhere depending on the wedge is close to mc but not as wide. hope this helps.... mike
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04-02-2005, 6:13 AM
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03' Super..... 700lbs of lead + stock ballast + 2 people in the boat, rider is 6' riding at 80' and 22.5mph at San Vicente. 03' Super..... boat overloaded with ballast 900lbs of lead + stock ballast + 7 people, rider is 5'3" riding at 65' at Lake Elsinore on the boats Maiden Voyage.... It's not the size of the wake but how clean it is from the transition to the top. The wake in the second picture was stupid big, not clean just big and firm. The wake in the first picture is perfect, clean transition, firm, steep, big, with great pop.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
04-02-2005, 6:19 AM
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Holy crap, Gramps. The wake is that second picture is as big as any wake I've seen!
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Join Date: Mar 2005
04-02-2005, 6:39 AM
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i dont get how a wake can be firm or not its all water. i mean when i hit a steep wake it seems firm and when i hit a mellow wake it seems like i punch through.anyway on that 2nd pic the wake looks real nice,and if it wasnt clean you could shorten up the rope a littlebut it looks clean to me. btw that rider is only 5'3"
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Join Date: Oct 2004
04-02-2005, 6:40 AM
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05 Air 211 Team. Stock Ballast
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04-02-2005, 11:50 AM
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Last weekend we had the same setup as Gramps plus 8 people in the boat. The wake was perfect. It's all how you distribute it; the more weight the better
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04-02-2005, 2:35 PM
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Thane--I know, I know.........but my skill level combined with my will to live, and getting the feel of what I want ballast wise, are delaying my movement on this... The good news though, is that I'm STILL having a blast when I get the chance to get out..... I'm sure I'll be packin' it on soon.....
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Join Date: Feb 2005
04-02-2005, 3:14 PM
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Gramps, That wake is sick! I love that second picture. Super Air's have the best wake in the world. That is why Correct Craft is always on top
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Join Date: Nov 2004
04-02-2005, 4:03 PM
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WOW!!! Gramps wins!!! That wake is just plain huge!!! I have to admit the Nautique wakes are definetly top notch.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
04-02-2005, 4:24 PM
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I have to say the from Experience Kevin's X-Star is by far the hugest wake . Its almost cary huge, But fun. I hope to be outh there in about a month
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Join Date: Nov 2004
04-02-2005, 4:57 PM
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Joe, that pic of your wake does not do it justice. I just got back from the lake with my pro V and I filled the balast and has a few other people on the boat and it was big. You need to take a pic from another angle or something because I know your wake is alot bigger then it looks in that pic. As soon as I get a camera I will take one of mine also, some good looking wakes on here though
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04-02-2005, 6:30 PM
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Hey Antbug! Daniel's slammin' your photo skills like Ed!!! I guess maybe we should have put the Red Bull at the bow............
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04-02-2005, 6:38 PM
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And Gramps, thats no wake.... It's a tsunami!! I hope there weren't any houses too close to shore over there.....
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Join Date: Feb 2005
04-02-2005, 7:43 PM
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Kevin, Are you coming up North for the NorCal Spring ride? I do not think we have any newer X-star's coming.
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04-02-2005, 11:03 PM
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Sanger V210 with 1800 pounds + 5. We like it, we like it a lot. Another at 23mph & 80 foot. Rick rules RIP. I've ridden a lot of top boats (X-2, SAN, X-star, 20V) and the Sanger puches above it weight, we love it to pieces.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
04-02-2005, 11:09 PM
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V210 6 people and stock ballast
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04-02-2005, 11:14 PM
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please please get me behind one of those wakes!! great pics. wish the 92 bu could do that!!
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04-03-2005, 12:57 AM
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Gary how do you compare the V210 wake with the V215?
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Join Date: Jul 2004
04-03-2005, 9:49 AM
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Hey Gramps ~ That 2nd pic,you didn't state how fast you were going?!By the looks of that thing you couldn't have been going the speed you were going in the 1st pic.And why are you going with a 65' rope? The reason why I ??? it is because the 2nd pic you only have 5 more people and 200lb in weight,and the wake does not change that dramaticaly with roughly 1000lbs xtra in the boat. Something is not right with that pic....either you are not going the wakeboarding speed and also I think there is a reason why that pic was taken with the rider being only at 65'.Sorry of my non-believing of that pic or that SAN is the grand daddy of the wakes.
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04-03-2005, 10:37 AM
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As the photographer of that picture, I can safely say that photo does not deceive. Both that rider and I were scared to death that day I am 2 inches shorter). She use to ride at like 21 and she was trying to progress, thus the shorter rope. That was the first day the boat was out on the water and Gramps and crew were trying to find the right weight configuration. Did you notice that Gramps said it was stupid big and NOT clean. You can be a doubting Thomas if you want, but since I took that picture I know the truth.
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Join Date: Mar 2002
04-03-2005, 11:18 AM
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Big Ed, Sooner or later we all face up to the fact that there is no steeper or harder wake than the Super Air's. I love my boat, and think it put's out a great wake, but I would never claim that it can compete with a properly loaded Nautique. I've ridden behind just about every boat model on this thread, and none compare to the Naughtie's their brutal.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
04-03-2005, 12:47 PM
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Ed, 1000lbs does make a huge difference in the wake, run yours with stock ballast, then run it with stock + 1000 you will notice a big difference. My guess at the rope length is that he was working with someone who was learning how to ride.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
04-03-2005, 1:17 PM
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Nobody needs to tell me what 1000lbs does to the wake nor that is the steepest wake...That still doesn't mean it's the nicest or the grand daddy! Daniel ~ Thanks for the info but I put 3000lbs in my boat and yes I know what it can be. All I was sayin is that 900lbs in led stock ballast is about the same..900lbs 7 people and gear 1500lbs TOTAL weight lead weight,people and gear and stock 3300lbs...I put that in my x-2 almost in just weight muchless people and gear and ....COME ON NOW,IT IS NOT LIKE THAT AT WB SPEEDS! (Message edited by Big_Ed_X2 on April 03, 2005)
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04-03-2005, 1:25 PM
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It takes more weight to get the same size wake out of an X2.
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04-03-2005, 1:30 PM
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Yeah I realize that but how much more???
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04-03-2005, 1:32 PM
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Can't say I've ever calculated it! Just seen the difference first hand switching from the two boats.}
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04-03-2005, 1:39 PM
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I don't think I can put enough weight in my boat for that kind of wake at WB speeds! Personally I think that it's roughly 300 to 400lbs xtra x-2 needs to get the same type of wake.SAN is about that much heavier dry weight so it all balance's it's self out.
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04-03-2005, 1:43 PM
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That's probably about right. I think it's the difference in shape between the two boats in general, and the fact that the SAN was weighted improperly in that second pic is what is puzzling you. I think the X2 could easily get that big, but since it has a longer tranny it probably doesn't look it.
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04-03-2005, 1:48 PM
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I don't know...it almost seems unreal to me,but well put because of the longer transition it may not look like it.That's something I might have overlooked.
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04-03-2005, 3:16 PM
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does any one have any pictures of any Tige wakes? id like to see those compared to all teh other names on here
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04-03-2005, 5:14 PM
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Ok, I was going to say the X-Star wake was the winner until I saw the pic of Grams wake, that is by far the largest wake I have ever seen
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Join Date: Mar 2004
04-03-2005, 5:44 PM
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Ed, I wasn't trying to give you info...I was under the assumption that you always sack your boat out with much more than 1000 lbs, I was trying to say that if you run it at stock ballast, look at it, and then add 1000 lbs you will notice a huge difference. Also, keep in mind that the rider in Gramps' post is 5'3... Also, you know this as well as I do that the wake on the X2 has more of a transition than the SAN and no where was I calling any boat the Grand Daddy of all boats...I'm an equal opportunity boat whore
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04-03-2005, 5:55 PM
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i want gramps to go back out and wieght that boat exactly how you did in the 2nd pic,exept this time dont use a midget,no offense,and take a picture.look at the guy in the 1st pic. i bet its just b/c shes 5'3"
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04-03-2005, 6:07 PM
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Gramps wake looks seriously huge but I m thinking that second picture could be while he is turning , either right at the begininng or right as he straightened out. Either that or the person riding in like 3'10". Looks good either way Gramps, And just so you know im not knockin the wake or the boat, just looks like that wake looks as big as a double up wake. Have fun everybody and take an extra set for me while im hung up!!!!!!!
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04-03-2005, 6:54 PM
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5'3" + 65' x 22mph = 1 freaking large ass wake. 6'1" + 78' x 24.7mph = 1 maybe not quite as big, but still ridiculously large wake with an incredible amount of pop. In Gramps we trust!!!! Thanks for the kind words, ClubMyke. Tell me some good news about your knee. (Message edited by socalwakepunk on April 03, 2005)
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Bunch of Haters..... My current set up is as follows: Stock Team tanks 400lbs of lead in the bow 300lbs of lead in the rear....150 over each rear tank. 500lb bag on the floor against the rear seat (2) 40lb "POP" product bags on the floor in the cabin for fine tuning from side to side. My boat sits passenger side heavy due to having 3 big amps mounted to the side gunnel, and 1 (60lb) sub and box under the passenger seat. I normally have 1 rider and 3 or 4 in the boat, the wake is clean back to 85'. I ride 80' at between 24-25 depending on how I feel, but I also weigh 220lbs so my fat ass doesn't like to be working while the boat drags me around. I was not turning and the picture is not photoshopped, the wake was that big....believe me I have nothing to gain. The reason she was riding at 65' is because she was a fairly new rider so there was no need for her to be any further back. I wish I could remember 2 years ago how fast she we were going but it couldn't have been much more than 21.....but I'm not positive. Here is another picture of the wake that same day about 30 minutes later.....the rider is 6'7" and we were riding somewhere around 23-24mph.
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04-03-2005, 7:28 PM
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04 SessionSI 1500lbs, 4 persons on boat. @22.5mph 75-80ft
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04-04-2005, 9:04 AM
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OK OK GRAMPS IS THE UNDISPUTED WINNER
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04-04-2005, 9:55 AM
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Jim P do you have to swim out to your boat everytime you want to use it(your display pic).
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04-04-2005, 11:36 AM
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i would have to say the nicest wakes i have ridden is geoff f(captain insano) 210 & kevin "python" pothier x-star... they have slightly differnt characteristics... -kevins is a BIG,smooth ramp and wide.. -Geoffs is BIG, very, ultra clean, and lots of pop.. it is really hard to say which one is better...comes down to preference.. i think the major take away is the "how" they did it so others dont have to go through the long drawn out process of trying to figure it out ( like i am doing it now with my 211) geoff- no news on the knee yet...MRI tonight...but i can confirm blown acl & mcl... (Message edited by clubmyke on April 04, 2005)
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04-04-2005, 11:53 AM
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thats a good one alex
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04-04-2005, 5:17 PM
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After I purchased my boat, I sent a copy of Gramps second photo to my wife. Told her this was our new wake...... I wish so bad I would have saved her responding e-mail....it was a classic. Not to hi-jac... But Clubmyke....don't tell me you wrecked your knee so soon after getting the new ride..... You're like <6 months into the new 211 correct??? What happened? E.J.
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Join Date: Apr 2004
04-04-2005, 5:34 PM
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I don't know guys. I just think that sometimes, even pictures can be a little hard to believe. I believe that Gramps' wake is a monster. It is a SAN, afterall. But, just take a look at this shot. '99 Outback. No ballest (stock or bags). 4 people in the boat.
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04-04-2005, 5:38 PM
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Darren; I like the 215 wake better. it is much smoother in transition and and not as abrupt. the 210 throws a great wake but becauswe of the narrower beam the wake becomes mor abrupt. Leaving the wake of the 215 seems to be more controled (at least for me).
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Join Date: Apr 2004
04-04-2005, 5:41 PM
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I don't know guys. I just think that sometimes, even pictures can be a little hard to believe. I believe that Gramps' wake is a monster. It is a SAN, afterall. But, just take a look at this shot. '99 Outback. No ballest (stock or bags). 4 people in the boat. This is a boat with a wake regarded as rather small with ballest!
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04-04-2005, 5:45 PM
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Sorry guys, here's the shot.
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04-04-2005, 6:00 PM
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ej - yep.... the last month was pretty rough on injurys... - the ankle (board came off) - the eye (ran aground in tyler o's 211) - the feet (muliple deep cuts from getting tylers 211 unstuck - the knee....previous injury coming down slippery set of stairs further multiplied by a bad landing on a wakeskate(one foot on / one foot off).. blown acl & mcl...will be out a good 8 months... looks like a summer for driving and tubing !!!
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04-04-2005, 6:01 PM
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my neighbors team editian air natique has a pretty fat wake with stock ballasts you should see it with all of us in it and my 600 sac in the middle, this pic is only 2 of us in the boat
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04-04-2005, 6:03 PM
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with i could spell team edition
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04-04-2005, 6:03 PM
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wish i could spell team edition
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04-04-2005, 6:08 PM
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I see where I made the mistake! She was at the arrow and you see where the other rider is hitting it,plus slower speeds,my bad. Not sayin it not impressive but pic is alittle deceaving!! I'll post my wake pic when I find one!!
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04-04-2005, 6:11 PM
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thats a small pic not a bad wake though
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