Poor boats on the Guadalupe River in TX.

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-11-2010, 10:43 AM

Wednesday morning in South Central Texas area (between Austin and San Antonio) received 12"+ inches of rain in a matter of approx 4hrs. The Guadalupe River which is known for great fun for toobing, canoeing, kayaking, and has some small lakes created by dams (great for wakeboarding). This youtube video shows about a dozen or so boats (including wakeboats) and PWC's going over the dam at Lake Dunlap on the river. The water flow had risen from a nice 535 cubic feet per second to over 55,000 cubic feet per second in approx 4hrs. However, the dramatic rise ocurred in just 1hr where the flow went from 4000cfs to 52,000cfs in less than 2hrs. This is flash flooding at it's scariest. It also ocurred between 7am-10am which is when most of these boat owners would be at work and/or did not have the time to get their boats off their lifts/docks or even away from their houses which many were flooded. All these boats met their doom by going over the dam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4gZcqT4Q&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsP5C...eature=related

(wake26) · (wake26) **Join Date: Mar 2009** 06-11-2010, 10:53 AM

thats almost to hard to watch. that sucks

(4white) · (4white) **Join Date: Apr 2010** 06-11-2010, 10:54 AM

What a shame!!

(shawnk) · (shawnk) **Join Date: Jan 2005** 06-11-2010, 10:55 AM

Man!!!! I have ridden on there a million times. CRAZY!!! Feel terrible for all you down there.

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-11-2010, 10:57 AM

My friend was at a wakeboard camp at the same spot on the videos and she said they saw wakeboards everywhere. She even said some boats were in and amongst the trees.

(ottog1979) · (ottog1979) **Join Date: Apr 2007** 06-11-2010, 10:58 AM

OMG! I wonder what it looked like on the other side of the dam?

(jonblarc7) · (jonblarc7) **Join Date: Jul 2006** 06-11-2010, 11:32 AM

How big is the damn, I feel so sorry for those people.

(bruizza) · (bruizza) **Join Date: May 2009** 06-11-2010, 11:53 AM

I am also curious as to how high that damn is.

(jmalibu) · (jmalibu) **Join Date: May 2010** 06-11-2010, 12:23 PM

That makes me want to throw-up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a shame

(trace) · (trace) **Join Date: Feb 2002** 06-11-2010, 12:31 PM

I just got an email with about 50 pics of the damage on Lake McQueeney, tons of WB boats. I don't have time to upload the pics right now, but if someone wants to PM me I'll forward it to them...

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-11-2010, 1:36 PM

Bruizza,

Here's your answer: "Lake Dunlap Dam, also known as Tp-1 Dam is of earthen construction. The foundation is unlisted or unknown. Its height is 41 feet with a length of 1626 feet. Its capacity is 5900 acre feet. Normal storage is 5900 acre feet. It drains an area of 242 square miles."

(craig_xti_88) · (craig_xti_88) **Join Date: Apr 2009** 06-11-2010, 1:38 PM

Trace- Can you send me the pics? craigc@asbonline.com

(99_slaunch) · (99_slaunch) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 06-11-2010, 1:41 PM

I bet a bunch of boats went over the dam at McQueeney

(trace) · (trace) **Join Date: Feb 2002** 06-11-2010, 2:56 PM

No more pms please... I sent them to 4 people already. Someone post em!

(bac) · (bac) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-11-2010, 4:51 PM

Sorry Trace, didn't read far enough before I just PM'd you

Anybody that have those pics wanna forward them?

(hayes) · (hayes) **Join Date: Aug 2007** 06-11-2010, 7:58 PM

Yellow and Black SAN!!! Say it ain't so!

(bac) · (bac) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-12-2010, 8:57 AM

Here's the pics from Trace's email

(bac) · (bac) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-12-2010, 8:58 AM

More....

(chris4x4gill2) · (chris4x4gill2) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-12-2010, 9:06 AM

That is an amazing amount of destructioN! All of that happened due to rain?

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-12-2010, 9:08 AM

R.I.P. Obviously this flashflood was not predicted or else most of these boats would have been off the lake. This is the Guadalupe River so these home owners know the risk and the frequency that this river can do this. One resident said it's been 16yrs since the last flood of this magnitude. However, if any of you are familiar with Bubba's bar near the River Rd bridge in Gruene knows that there's a very, very large tree that has been there forever and has wooden plaques nailed to it at various heights indicating the date of the high water mark

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-12-2010, 9:09 AM

Chris, the more amazing thing is that this amount of rain fell in less than 4 hours.

(2006maliblue) · (2006maliblue) **Join Date: Mar 2009** 06-12-2010, 9:17 AM

Holy S#@$

Thats insane! I hope everybody had insurance.

From the vegation on the roof of some of the docks it looks like the water got real high!

(scottnaz) · (scottnaz) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-12-2010, 9:22 AM

Absolutely heart breaking destruction!

(chris4x4gill2) · (chris4x4gill2) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-12-2010, 9:31 AM

Vegetation on the roofs? What about the boats on the roofs?!

I'm just finding it hard to believe even with seeign the pictures! I just got home from being out of town for a little over a week and it makes me want ot geot to the lake to check on my boat even though it woudl have to raise the lake 30+ feet above the damn to do damage.

(baitkiller) · (baitkiller) **Join Date: Jan 2010** 06-12-2010, 12:38 PM

That is really hard to see. It reminds me that hurricane season this year should be fairly busy. We haven't gotten pounded since 2005 and are probably due. I put in an email in to a long time friend that works CAT claims adjusting and specializes in marine. We worked Andrew, Charlie, Wilma and Ike together. Looks like he is headed to Texas for this one too. Don't think of me as a vulture but I asked him to keep an eye out for a good late model V drive salvage opportunity. With any luck Ill need to borrow a trailer soon. Better a rider with two groms than a spec dealer.

(talltigeguy) · (talltigeguy) **Join Date: Sep 2003** 06-12-2010, 1:21 PM

I hope no one was hurt. Looks like you could easily have drowned out there trying to save your boat.

Amazing how the lawn at some of those homes still looks pristine, even though the water must have been half way up to the houses.

(tro) · (tro) **Join Date: May 2009** 06-12-2010, 2:08 PM

that is insane.

(ajholt7) · (ajholt7) **Join Date: Apr 2009** 06-12-2010, 2:25 PM

I hope insurance covers all those boats. I would be sick.

(bigshow) · (bigshow) **Join Date: Feb 2005** 06-12-2010, 6:02 PM

Wow

(zacharoo) · (zacharoo) **Join Date: Nov 2005** 06-12-2010, 6:07 PM

Damn.....

(dave23) · (dave23) **Join Date: Nov 2006** 06-12-2010, 6:32 PM

Damn. This is reason #1 why I would never own property on a river. There is always the chance of some major flooding, even if it hasn't flooded "in a long time". I assume this is from the same storm that killed quite a few people in Arkansas?

(bill_airjunky) · (bill_airjunky) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 06-12-2010, 7:56 PM

Holy crap.

(dohboy) · (dohboy) **Join Date: Aug 2007** 06-12-2010, 8:43 PM

Wow if I were an insurance adjuster I'd be crying right now. That is horrible. Mother nature is a real b#%ch sometimes. I do predict a lot of new boats on that river soon! Hopefully they are all insured.

(tgoin) · (tgoin) **Join Date: Apr 2009** 06-12-2010, 8:45 PM

the video was bad enough, these pictures just make me sick to my stomach. It's just stuff, but wow!

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-13-2010, 1:44 AM

David, this storm was actually not that big...meaning it wasn't some kind of storm front. It was just the right conditions and a moderate sized system stalled over the area dumping rain. The Central Texas area that day saw several areas with moderate sized storms stalling in one spot. I just want to know is...how in the hell does the sky hold that much water?

(slipknot) · (slipknot) **Join Date: Aug 2001** 06-13-2010, 6:34 PM

this is terrible, I just got sick to my stomach

(srock) · (srock) **Join Date: Mar 2002** 06-14-2010, 7:41 AM

I'm surprised there was no effort to keep boats from going over the dam. I guess with the amount of debris in the water you would not want to get caught up in the mess.

(cwb4me) · (cwb4me) **Join Date: Apr 2010** 06-14-2010, 7:47 AM

all the texas boat dealers have got to love this boat salesout the wazu!

(bkey79) · (bkey79) **Join Date: May 2010** 06-14-2010, 8:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcirFqHJLZs

Another sad link...

(bac) · (bac) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-14-2010, 7:37 PM

Forgot to post these up when I got them in an email the other day

The chain of lakes in the Hill Country has now been closed to any water traffic, motorized or non-motorized, until Aug. 1st.

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-14-2010, 7:47 PM

Which lakes in Texas are closed? The only chain of lakes I know of are of course Lake Austin, Lake Travis, Inks, LBJ, Marble Falls.

(bac) · (bac) **Join Date: Feb 2008** 06-14-2010, 7:54 PM

Sorry AJ, poor choice of words on my part,

McQueeney, Dunlap, Placid, Nolte, Gonzales and Wood are all closed until Aug

(fuller313) · (fuller313) **Join Date: Oct 2006** 06-14-2010, 11:08 PM

My parents live on lake McQueeney and are neighbors to the guy whose pontoon boat is flipped upside down on top of the boat house. The craziest thing about it is it was only sprinkling in New Braunfels when the flood happened. I was at my house in San Antonio when my mother called me to tell me it was flooding there. At first I thought she was just joking as it wasn't even raining at my house. She said the boat is gone and it flooded all the way to the walkout of the house and almost made it to the main floor. The whole walk out was covered in 6-7 inches in mud. Those pictures are just the damage to the boats. Many houses got flooded as well. Unfortunately many people do not have insurance for their boat or flood insurance for their house.(both neighbors don't) Luckily my parents have both but will still take a hit as the riding lawn mower, soda machine and other items won't be covered by insurance. Many of the people that live on my parents street said they have never seen the water come up as fast as it did. Some have lived there long enough to have seen the other really bad flood in 98. My thoughts and prayers go to all who have lost.

(you_da_man) · (you_da_man) **Join Date: Sep 2009** 06-15-2010, 6:21 AM

How do people NOT have insurance on their boats? I know I am a noob to this and only had my first wakeboat since Sept 09 but isn't insurance required on boats like cars/trucks?

(882001) · (882001) **Join Date: Nov 2003** 06-15-2010, 3:05 PM

more http://www.mysanantonio.com/slidesho...ing.html?c=n#4

(bill_airjunky) · (bill_airjunky) **Join Date: Apr 2002** 06-15-2010, 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by you_da_man

How do people NOT have insurance on their boats? I know I am a noob to this and only had my first wakeboat since Sept 09 but isn't insurance required on boats like cars/trucks?

Yea, it's crazy. If you have a bank loan on a boat or house, they will require you insure it. My home owners insurance covers everything, the house, the sidewalk, the lawn mower, the pictures on the wall, furniture, TV, roof, your clothes, etc.
And most people who live on a lake or river would make a point to make sure their insurance covers things like floods, especially when they have had floods in the area so recently. In fact, my own insurance REQUIRED me to have flood insurance because we were only like 400' from the lake, inside the county mandated "flood plane". But if you don't live right near a body of water, it's your own choice.
I guess it's not like that everywhere. Nice they don't have to spend the money. Not so nice now though. It's a shame to see how widespread the damage is.

(pickle311) · (pickle311) **Join Date: Oct 2005** 06-21-2010, 9:24 AM

Wow, I didn't realize it was that bad. All of the times I wished I lived on the water, this makes me glad I don't right now.

(0klahoma_Breakdown)

Sucks that this happened but it sure would be cool to see pics or video of the boats after they went over the spillway.