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Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-18-2008, 10:25 PM Reply   
I just saw the commercial. The one where the monster truck is out of gas. "Ya, I get about 23 on the HW."

I have a 350Z. I got 28 yesterday driving from Folsom to LA. ...


23 just seems so low. Besides my car is a blast to drive.
Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-18-2008, 10:27 PM Reply   
?????
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       06-18-2008, 10:40 PM Reply   
Pilot is a lot heavier!

(Message edited by lionel on June 18, 2008)
Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-18-2008, 10:46 PM Reply   
There is a Honda commercial. A monster truck runs out of gas. Someone in a Pilot pulls up to offer a ride. Commercial cuts to the Honda driver. "Ya, I get about 23 on the Highway."

I mean the new Avalanche gets 21.
Old     (andy13)      Join Date: Apr 2007       06-18-2008, 10:50 PM Reply   
pilot is heavier and has more wind resistance than your 350Z
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       06-18-2008, 10:51 PM Reply   
Highest I see is 20? 4X4 flexfuel gets 14 on the hwy? Sweet.

http://www.chevrolet.com/avalanche/specifications/
Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-18-2008, 11:01 PM Reply   
I don't mean to start an argument. I just thought it was kinda low to be bragging about. With all the talk about gas mileage lately.

Bryan, this was the link I saw. I don't know which is right.

http://autos.yahoo.com/chevrolet_truck_avalanche/
Old     (lionel)      Join Date: Nov 2005       06-18-2008, 11:13 PM Reply   
Yeah, I hear you. A bit low. It's funny they've had the 'run on 3 or 4 cylinder' technology on the pilot since 2006, but this is the first I've heard about it in a commercial.

Toyota Highlander is rated up to 24 MPG with 20 more hp. I think the GMC Acadia gets better MPG, too!

IMO, I'll take a V8 truck with more power, towing capability, and slightly worse fuel economy.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-19-2008, 7:28 AM Reply   
I get over 20 on the highway in my V8 4Runner. I thought the same thing about the Highlander Hybrid (28 MPG)
Old     (showtz)      Join Date: Mar 2007       06-19-2008, 8:17 AM Reply   
The 2008 350Z auto has an EPA rating of 17/24 (premium required)

The 2009 4wd pilot has an EPA rating of 16/22. (regular gas) It also tows 4500lb boat and has 8 passenger seating.

Looks like the Pilot wins?
Old     (showtz)      Join Date: Mar 2007       06-19-2008, 8:19 AM Reply   
The V8 4runner is rated at 14/17.

For model-year 2008, the EPA has revised the way the estimated fuel economy rating is determined. Actual mileage may vary with driving conditions
Old     (kcampos)      Join Date: Jul 2007       06-19-2008, 8:39 AM Reply   
I have a 350z and there is no way you got 28. I get on the average 16-18
Old     (damned04)      Join Date: May 2005       06-19-2008, 8:47 AM Reply   
Read it again, he got 28mpg from folsom to LA. Which I'm guessing is mostly hwy driving. The 3.5 vq nissan motor sucks gas in the city but is actually pretty economical on the highway. This explains why your average is probably so low.
Old     (kcampos)      Join Date: Jul 2007       06-19-2008, 8:51 AM Reply   
I did read that and still find it hard to believe he got 28 on the highway. Maybe he never tacked it past 3000 RPMs
Old     (jedidiah)      Join Date: May 2008       06-19-2008, 9:05 AM Reply   
28mpg in a 350z could only be obtained by following combination:

60%- driving at 60, without AC and windows up.

40%- Foot Pedal Power
Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-19-2008, 9:09 AM Reply   
Ben,

Cruise control set at 75. Top down. But thanks for your useless input.
Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       06-19-2008, 9:10 AM Reply   
Ken,

I got 24.5 on the way up @ 80 mph and 28 on the way back @ 75. (Top down in both directions)
Old     (mastercraft1995)      Join Date: Nov 2002       06-19-2008, 9:42 AM Reply   
Gearing, wind, weight lots of things come to mind about your comparison.
You need to compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

You need to stay in the same class vehicles to compare mileage.
Old     (alans)      Join Date: Aug 2005       06-19-2008, 9:52 AM Reply   
My wife's Audi A4 is rated at 29 on the highway but if we set the cruise at 72 in 6th gear and stay on flat interstate we see 34-36 mpg on a 60 mile trip.
Old     (showtz)      Join Date: Mar 2007       06-19-2008, 10:13 AM Reply   
You could probably get 50MPG drafting a Semi going downhill in a 84' Trans-Am.

I think we all agree MPG is effected by driver, elevation, weather, etc.

I think the specs on the new pilot look pretty good. The new toyota highlander is a good comparison to the 2009 Pilot. It has a little more tow capacity, same torque as the pilot but 20 more HP. The 2008 4wd highlander has epa rating of 17/23 compared to the 4wd pilots 16/22.

(Message edited by showtz on June 19, 2008)
Old     (trace)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-19-2008, 10:43 AM Reply   
A friend of mine has a couple year old Pilot. It is NOT a tow vehicle. He almost chit himself several times while pulling a little rented popup camper with it.
Old     (showtz)      Join Date: Mar 2007       06-19-2008, 11:11 AM Reply   
trance - what kind of problems did he have towing a pop up trailer? I just towed a 5000LB boat with my MDX which is almost identical to a pilot. It gets the job done.

(Message edited by showtz on June 19, 2008)
Old     (jarrod)      Join Date: May 2003       06-19-2008, 11:27 AM Reply   
"It is NOT a tow vehicle. He almost chit himself several times while pulling a little rented popup camper with it.
"

first time towing?

I'm taking a serious look at a used Honda Ridgeline which is the same thing. I don't need a serious tow vehicle, just something to launch from the storage unit, get me to tahoe, ft a childs seat, and haul 2 dirt bikes.

People are claiming 20+MPG average out of the 247HP V6. It has a 1/2 ton rating.
Old     (trace)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-19-2008, 12:35 PM Reply   
No, it was not his first time towing at all. He owned a boat for several years and towed it with his Trooper with no problems. He said it was all over the road (probably the combination of light weight, soft susp, and shortish wheelbase), and brakes weren't very effective. I would speculate that the MDX is probably at least couple hundred lbs heavier, with better suspension and brakes.
Old     (lakeski)      Join Date: Dec 2006       06-19-2008, 1:25 PM Reply   
We tow with a Pilot without any trouble at all. I don't have a photo which shows the entire setup, but here's a glimpse.

We tow 1 or 2 times each summer from Milwaukee to Duluth and back (about 1,000 mi, round trip). Sometimes we do this with two kayaks on the roof. Never one problem. We have the towing package, which includes the tranny cooler, etc.

The terrain can be hilly, but it we don't deal with mountains or high altitude.Upload
Old     (trace)      Join Date: Feb 2002       06-19-2008, 2:40 PM Reply   
Well that certainly proves me wrong! :-) Maybe it is operator error after all...

Now that I am thinking of it, though, I don't think it was a true popup camper, but a "hybrid", which is taller and heavier than a popup.
Old     (ryansgt)      Join Date: Aug 2006       06-19-2008, 4:21 PM Reply   
i get 19 if i am really really nice to my gto. that is all hwy. i've had as low as 8 when i was really running hard. lots of smoke and spins. tow with the yukon, it gets 12-14. 11-12 if towing.
Old     (h20jnky)      Join Date: Mar 2003       06-19-2008, 7:41 PM Reply   
lakeski, is that a honda SUV pulling a toyota boat? you don't see that very often.. nice work.
Old     (tripleup)      Join Date: Apr 2004       06-19-2008, 8:27 PM Reply   
The new Pilot is pretty impressive and the est. fuel economy that can be advertised is less than most owners get depending how heavy your foot is. I would put it against a Tahoe anyday on overall towing and fuel economy check out the torque. I am not biast at all even though I am a Honda sales manager
Old     (lakeski)      Join Date: Dec 2006       06-19-2008, 9:15 PM Reply   
Yup, it's a Honda/Toyota combo. Thanks, h20jnky.
Old     (deepcove)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-19-2008, 10:36 PM Reply   
I tow with my Pilot....I can certainly feel the boat behind me but it seems to handle it ok.

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