What counts as jjump height?

My friend and I are having a debate...how do you measure jump height? My method is to measure from where your hips are when you are flat on the water to how high they are in the air (hip displacement). His method is to measure from the center of the board flat on the water to the center of the board in the air, but what I don't like about this method is that a 2 foot jump with a grab is now a 4 foot jump since you brought the board up to your butt to grab, but a 4 foot jump with your legs straight is also just a 4 foot jump. Also if you were doing an invert that would be like a 9 foot jump, at that point since the board is so high above the water. I think his method artifically inflates the jump height measurements.

Which method do you guys use? Or something entirely different? Below is a picture of what i'm talking about. Both jumps are about the same height, in my book, maybe about 3 feet or so, since thats the amount of hip displacement. my friend scores the one on the right as about 5 feet. The grey line represents the water height.

I go by lowest part of board/body/whatever to the water. This way no matter what you are doing its always just the lowest part. Hell if you rail in and just do a wake jump you already get less love than if you are grabbing. The fact that you take the time to grab it and make your air look legit gives you brownie points as well as a few more inches of air. I think both of your methods are lame.

Mike, this is why you should ALWAYS grab the board. Make a new rule to never jump without a grab and everything will look bigger and better.

grab everything.

Joe - Are you hanging on by one finger???

Joe what is that? A vulcan death-grip method? Sorry, couldn't resist.

That's a cute multi-colored wetsuit.

Why am I expecting to hear some Jan Hammer while looking at that wetsuit?

so, pretty much everybody here goes by 'whatever part of your body is the lowest'?

guess I thought of my method because if you were standing on the ground and just quickly raised your feet to hit your butt then put them back down, you haven't actually jumped at all. but by the 'lowest part of the body' method you'd call it 2 feet of jump height.

and yeah, I know grabs are cool. I just put that pic up to illustrate my question.

Some people complicate things tooooooo much.
Just ride, if it looks like your going big then cool. If it looks like you need to go bigger then.... SACK UP and go bigger. Geeaasssee. not rocket science.

Joe. someone's gonna break a finger tring to repeat that "special" grab.

"I think both of your methods are lame." B.H
You can say that again...So Joe, How would you measure the height distance on that vulcan death-grip method? That Pic's the $#!T}

I think to add another 6 feet of air or at least the appearance one it the first thing you should do Mike is add board shorts....because nobody likes to see any jump with a lump.

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By Elizabeth (lizzyb) on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 12:12 pm:

Joe - Are you hanging on by one finger???

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at least i ride!

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By C.I.E.....Evan (guido) on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 12:12 pm:

Joe what is that? A vulcan death-grip method? Sorry, couldn't resist.

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no need to be sorry...that's a great trick name!!!

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By Allen Bischofberger (allen) on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 12:32 pm:

Joe. someone's gonna break a finger tring to repeat that "special" grab.

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allen, i'm extreme like that.

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By Jeffrey Zukowski (zuka666) on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 12:33 pm:

So Joe, How would you measure the height distance on that vulcan death-grip method? That Pic's the $#!T

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jeffrey, measure from the bottom of the board. credit for the pic goes to antbug...he took the pic.

HA - Please give me the specks on that cam. Beautiful

i can't believe this is a legit thread! height is measured by the lowest part of your body. whether it be the board, your knees, arm, or head.

I would have liked to measure height on that S-Bend you threw last night, Allen. It was a bigee!

Joe - How can I ride when you booted me from the crew??

good point.

I must say that board is sick.
We need to start bringing out a camara so we can get sick pics of each other like the one of Joe.
Chea!!

Elizabeth - Beautiful eyes!
Joe - Whats the matter with you?

inside joke.

Just messin'

Jeffrey - Thanks!

Jeffrey ~ http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/87667/218323.html?1113864663

Better add "Vulcan Death Grip" as a new grab name. THAT is a sweet name.

How rude. That's your middle finger.

whoa. i thought this was wakeboarding not olympic high jumping. "oh ya well ic an jump 6.9 feet without a grab and 7.3 with a grab so there" ridiculous. whats next timing the length of grabs and making sure you rotate exactly 360 degrees not 352.

Thanks Ant,
Guess I know where my next pay checks going...