Need some help with my tantrum.

Hey guys

Ive been riding for about 3 seasons now and i just landed my first invert; the Frontroll.

Landing it was a great feeling, and i can now land atleast one of them each set i do (When i landed my first, i immediately landed another 2 straight after it 0.o)

Now, i decided i should learn the damn tantrum finally, after doing a few hopeless try's... i just cant seem to do it right.

I'm pretty good at backflip's on the tramp, can do em with spins, like 5+ in a row, without more than one jump etc. Theyre just easy for me on a tramp.

The thing is, i cant seem to get it right on the water...

Ive watched alot of tutorials, and they all tell me i should feel a "trip" on the top of the wake... But i dont...

Im not sure about what im doing wrong, i cut as hard as i can and try to maintain control @ the wake...

I have a vid from last season, with my best attempt (Look at more of my vid's for worse try's :P):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEGUcrpeIuM&feature=related

I just really want to land this trick soon... and i know i can, its just 1 thing im doing wrong and i hope u guys can help me out with finding it

Thanks

Bob.

Everything looked good, except flatten off more right at the top of the wake.... it looks like you're throwing your head back and away from the boat which is making it hard on your arm.

your board should be 100% parrallel with the line/boat direction.

Not that mine is a picture perfect tantrum but it is super easy to throw/on my body and its almost harder to fall on them than land


(Message edited by sidekicknicholas on June 15, 2009)

You need to square up... Here is a Video to watch...

http://www.wakeworld.com/getarticle.asp?articleid=1901

I know i have to square up, but i somehow fail at it...

Is there some kind of trick for it?

Did you watch the Video above?

Yeah, i tried these steps yesterday but they didnt really help me... i still didnt get that pop feeling i should have :/ Thats why im so annoyed with it.

Do you guys "kick" your back foot into the wake, or maybe perform a small, 90 degree jump with your heels into the wake ?

I looks to me that you squared up pretty well, but you immediately let go of the rope. Right before you hit the wake let go with your back hand and raise your front hand straight up so that your arm is at a 90 degree angle, and just hold on.

bob. I was having a similar problem when learning them. I was told to throw my back shoulder (your left shoulder) away from the boat at the top of the wake. This will square up your shoulders for the rotation.

I have similar problems with my tantrum.

Thanks John!

That sound like a really good tip to me, since it looks like my problem is more at my shoulders than my board, looking at the vid again...

Ill try next time! Thanks

i think you're trying to square up to early and you are not getting the pop you need so you feel bogged down and it causes you to pop the handle. you have to almost make your trip feel "late" or you won't get your pop because the pop on the trip flips comes from the crest at the top op the wake. Also, when you are learning you can really exaggerate your looking back and arcing your back to get the flip instead of crunching up. This helps you carry it to the top of the wake. Check picture...

john r are you goofy??

It looks like you are popping the rope with your board.

nope. regular foot. so i have to throw my right shoulder (back shoulder) to square up, and Ryan is right, you def. need to wait a little bit longer and get that pop.

you got the flip, just square up with the wake more so that u flip across the wake not back away from the boat!

*IMPORTANT You are not coming off of your edge!!! I checked all three attempts you have up and none of them do you completely come off of your edge. In order to feel that 'pop' the top of the wake needs to hit as much surface area of the board as it can. Because you are still edging through the wake, the wake can't pop you properly. Also, this makes you flip away from the boat, rather than across the wake. I think you will really need to try hard on squaring up to the wake. You can even think about coming to the opposite edge at the top of the wake (ie to your toe edge). If you think of a standing backflip on flat ground, you do not jump off of your heels, you jump off of your toes. Hope this helps. Post some more videos if you still can't get it.

search for Learnwake.com on youtube! there is a great tutorial for getting this trick right, i watched it a few times, landed it on my third attempt, sick if you landed front roll they look well hard