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Old     (loytoy)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-11-2009, 8:05 AM Reply   
does the malibu vlx make a good wake with ballests full and wedge down for surfing? i want a wave like the enzo's switch blade puts out.. but dont want that boat.
Old     (reconabe)      Join Date: Jun 2007       08-11-2009, 8:12 AM Reply   
I have an 08 vlx, it can be epic, but it takes the right setup
Old     (liljohn)      Join Date: May 2007       08-11-2009, 8:16 AM Reply   
Jordan you want an 09 vlx do a search and you will find the review with pics. the wave is supper nice. keep inmind nothing will ever compare to an enzo. so if the enzo wave is your goal go buy an enzo. personaly ill give up a little wave for the malibu.
Old     (gwnkids)      Join Date: Nov 2003       08-11-2009, 8:46 AM Reply   
Step up to the 23 LSV and with the same enzo sack and 500 extra up front they are very close in size

Here is the dark side of the 23LSV
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Old     (hamkj)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-11-2009, 9:07 AM Reply   
SUPREME V226
Old     (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-11-2009, 9:37 AM Reply   
Nice wake Bryan!! Here's a pic of mine behind my Tige 24V.

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Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-11-2009, 10:11 AM Reply   
No offense to anyone but I hate the pictures of the wave all sunk down taken off the swim platform angled up. I think they should all be taken from the sun pad no tricks. Don't get me wrong I've taken my share of them from there too but as a true judge of the wave it's gotta be from the sun pad.
Old     (radikal)      Join Date: Feb 2004       08-11-2009, 10:38 AM Reply   
Hate your right when i want to impress i do the same, and after when i check it im telling myself WOWWWW that wave was huge and in person it was not that huge at all. Sun pad Polaroid FTW !
Old     (saceone)      Join Date: Jan 2009       08-11-2009, 10:45 AM Reply   
my 210 does the job pretty well. 3000 pounds of bags/hardtanks + around 1000 pounds in body weight+gear = big enough for anyone.
Old     (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-11-2009, 11:43 AM Reply   
Here's a couple for you haters from "Boat" level.

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Old     (psudy)      Join Date: Dec 2003       08-11-2009, 11:48 AM Reply   
That looks nice Greg, unless your four foot tall.
Old     (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-11-2009, 11:59 AM Reply   
5'8" Lol.
Old     (hamkj)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-11-2009, 12:02 PM Reply   
I am 5'7"
Sorry taken from swim grid, will take one from boat level next time.
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Old     (leaks)      Join Date: Oct 2005       08-11-2009, 12:08 PM Reply   
HeHateMe; Your much more tan here than in your profile pic. Is this wave from your fishing boat as well??
Old     (gwnkids)      Join Date: Nov 2003       08-11-2009, 12:20 PM Reply   
Hate - the quality of the wave is just as improtant what Greg and I show is a long clean pocket with 2 different boats. Any boat can make a wave but you need size (23-24') and weight to get a long clean face. One of the wakesurf turnys used Epics and although it is a 23' boat the wave was tall but the pocket (sweet spot) was short and very abrubt.

Like with anything personal choice will take the day but Jordan was compairing 2 boat brands and I have experance with Malibu.
Old     (motogod77)      Join Date: Aug 2008       08-11-2009, 12:35 PM Reply   
Gotta second the V226
Old     (trevorg7)      Join Date: Mar 2008       08-11-2009, 2:45 PM Reply   
My Avy works well.

1.2k ballest, 3 adults, 4 kids. I am 6.2 250# for wave size reference.

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Old     (hatepain)      Join Date: Aug 2006       08-11-2009, 2:47 PM Reply   
Bryan, I still think Greg's from the boat look longer and more impressive as well as represent more accurately the wakes potential energy.
Old     (trevorg7)      Join Date: Mar 2008       08-11-2009, 2:58 PM Reply   
^^

Agreed. Greg's wave looks great.

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Old     (mikeski)      Join Date: Aug 2003       08-11-2009, 2:59 PM Reply   
Was on a 2008 Malibu 23LSV last week. Two 350's in the left rear storage locker, left rear tank full, belly tank full, 400lbs of pop bags in the side and bow, wedge up out of the water. Wave was nice and clean, easy to surf 10' behind the boat with just a driver and passenger.
Old     (lakelife)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-11-2009, 3:35 PM Reply   
a couple weeks ago i surfed behind a 2006 VLX with port ballast filled, 565 in port locker, 450 on the back port side seat, middle ballast full, power wedge 3/4 down and about 7 people and the wake was absolutely bonkers... of course not an "enzo" size wave but big enough to push all 215 pounds of me on a 4'4 coex without a problem.
Old     (lakesurfer)      Join Date: Jul 2009       08-11-2009, 6:11 PM Reply   
Why dont you want an Enzo (Size, brand, etc)? If you are looking for the best wave on a 22ft boat, I think it is an Avy. Properly set up, it produces a wave as big as any boat not called Enzo (even boats 2 ft longer)
Old     (hdchapman)      Join Date: Mar 2008       08-11-2009, 8:15 PM Reply   
Jordan,
Since all but one or two of the posts hijacked and didn't answer your questions I will.

Yes, you can get a killer surf wake out of an 08 VLX. I have one and I have multiple pictures but they are on another computer so I will try to post them later or you can email/pm me and I will send some to you.

I typically run surfside, center and bow MLS full. Another 900 or 750 in the surfside locker, a 540 on the surfside seat, 350 in the bow with wedge at 10-12 o'clock and drive about 10.0-10.6 mph.

Chappy
Old     (hdchapman)      Join Date: Mar 2008       08-11-2009, 8:17 PM Reply   
PS. This set up gets my rub rail about 2-3" from the water and throws a clean waist high wake.
Old     (hamkj)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-11-2009, 10:10 PM Reply   
Supreme V220 - Loaded up one side back to front get a nice long wake... short if you only load up the back... Nice clean face for spins and shoveits.

VLX - Same thing... load up some weight in the front... makes for a nice long pocket.

X-Star - Don't really like it unless doing a constant turn... I don't like riding in the turn.

Supreme V226 - Crazy big and easy to make a nice wake... such a deep Vee at the back end makes for a wonderful surfing boat. ENZO.. same idea... This boat is much like an ENZO but the interior space of a 247LSV... and the look of a TomCat/X-Star

EPIC - Stomped my first 3 behind the prototype, should have added some more weight to the front, as the back foot always had an aggressive curl hitting back foot which slowed me down at times.

Bigger Tiges... 24V and Z4 - Produce nice surf wakes... but need lots of weight.

Supras are nice too.

Havent been behind a SAN. Or MB.

Most times... speed between 9.8 - 11.3 mph
Rides...
Inland Surfer 4Skim Moss
Inland Surfer Sweet Spot
Inland Surfer Yellow Loogie
Inland Surfer Red Tide
Phase Five Oogle
Old     (biggris79)      Join Date: Jan 2008       08-12-2009, 7:17 AM Reply   
Where's a pic of a wake behind a 247 lsv
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-12-2009, 7:33 AM Reply   
The MB B52V23 is a good surf boat and there are some really good deals on them.
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-12-2009, 7:47 AM Reply   
^^Didn't see that one coming .
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       08-12-2009, 8:03 AM Reply   
haha nu bu. you got me :-)
Old     (05mobiuslsv)      Join Date: Apr 2006       08-12-2009, 9:03 AM Reply   
It's only 9am too.
Old     (loudontn)      Join Date: Feb 2005       08-12-2009, 9:36 AM Reply   
I hear the Centurion's make an unbelievable surf wake. I really enjoy my 24SSV surf wake, but I hear it's no comparison to the Centurion. I unfortunately do not remember the model.
Old     (hamkj)      Join Date: Apr 2002       08-12-2009, 10:16 AM Reply   
Cody... just for kicks.. try riding behind the new supreme v226...

More vee than the Enzo... and the Enzo has an amazing surf wake... the V226 will be the same if not better and require less weight I imagine
Old     (stewart)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-12-2009, 10:20 AM Reply   
247 3 kids 2 adults. One 750 in rear locker, wedge 1/2 down, port rear ballast full, center and front ballast full.

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Old     (stewart)      Join Date: Feb 2006       08-12-2009, 10:25 AM Reply   
just for fun...

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Old     (loytoy)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2009, 10:43 AM Reply   
thanks for the help guys... i'm lake testing a vlx this weekend. we had a bad experience testing the new enzo 230 surf boat... sweet wave but for a band new boat there was alarms going off and sensors already shot ect. ect. The local dealer wanted a deposit that day, he didnt think it was a big deal and he didn't know what was wrong! lol I think I also would have liked the boat better if it had the dts throttle on it. I want a loaded boat! But i want a boat that can throw a big wave with only a driver in it.
Old     (lakelife)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-12-2009, 10:47 AM Reply   
jordan i just checked your profile... pretty rare to see someone on here from my part of the world! what lake do you ride? we have a cabin at martin's which is probably about an hour east from you.
Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-12-2009, 11:09 AM Reply   
Dealer support is a huge part. I would have walked away too. The 10' Centurions do have dts throttle.

If you want a loaded boat with minimal crew I would look at the bigger Tige, the B52 with awesome quick ballast gates, or bigger Bu. Forgot that actually my first choice would be Sanger if they are in your area. Very similar to the Avy.
We've surfed a VLX with wedge several times and very nice, but my Avalanche is much bigger and the Enzo is better than all. If you like the Bu, check it's big brother the LSV.
Old     (loytoy)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2009, 11:20 AM Reply   
the LSV would make a bigger wave then a VLX with a small crew?
Old     (loytoy)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2009, 11:23 AM Reply   
hey DB^ hows the cold summer going? we are at loon lake. where is Martin's Lake?
Old     (nauti4life)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-12-2009, 12:15 PM Reply   
How's this. SAN 230 in around 10' of water. Wish this lake was deeper.Upload
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Old     (innov8)      Join Date: May 2005       08-12-2009, 1:58 PM Reply   
Wow how do you have that 230 set up, Weight wise?
I have my new 2010 230 being built.
Old     (chpthril)      Join Date: Oct 2007       08-12-2009, 2:02 PM Reply   
Here are a couple from the Tige 22Ve's and RZ2's with a 1K custom sac. The Tige 22 ftr's make a nice surfable wake with as little as 400lbs and a couple of peeps, but you can also load the chit out of them and it gets great! TAPS makes it real simple to adjust and clean up the wake as your weight changes trip to trip.


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Old     (nauti4life)      Join Date: Sep 2008       08-12-2009, 2:39 PM Reply   
Jeff-
Stock ballast. Belly full and one side. Set the cruise around 10.2 and play with the hydrogate.
Congrats on the 2010.
Old     (king_of_wake123)      Join Date: Aug 2009       08-12-2009, 3:30 PM Reply   
bayliner.....loaded
Old     (lakelife)      Join Date: Feb 2003       08-12-2009, 7:05 PM Reply   
jordan, Martin's lake is about 20 minutes south of shell lake, 15 min north of blaine lake on the #12... small little lake and it's full of wally tubers, but a nice lake and only 1 hour from my doorstep in saskatoon

loon lake is nice, used to go fishing there when i was a kid!

good luck on the boat search man, these are all deadly boats... if you are looking for a SAN we have a dealership in Saskatoon, Bob Porat Nautiques.
Old     (hdchapman)      Join Date: Mar 2008       08-12-2009, 9:47 PM Reply   
Jordan,
Just keep in mind the bigger the boat the more weight you need to get the hull in the water. Getting a big surf wake is all about displacement.

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