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Old     (burn229)      Join Date: Nov 2007       03-19-2014, 7:58 PM Reply   
I removed the stock rear and upgraded to 1100# wakemakers kit but has anyone tried doing anything to the 500# stock front? Is there room to even upgrade up there?
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       03-19-2014, 9:48 PM Reply   
Maybe you could put in some sacs under the seats like some of the Xstars had but the current front bag fill the space where it's located. Other than that it needs visible bags.
Old     (dp513)      Join Date: Jul 2011       03-19-2014, 10:51 PM Reply   
led in the front will do the trick. hidden and it works well. i know ill be adding a couple hundred lbs to mine.
Old     (ryanw209)      Join Date: Jan 2010       03-19-2014, 11:18 PM Reply   
Yes lead in the front is the best way to go. I am running 750's in back, stock 500 in the front, 400 in lead under the front seats and a SL 600 in the front walkway. If you don't want to go with lead then a bow triangle is the other route.
Old     (Jmorlan)      Join Date: May 2013       07-14-2014, 10:49 PM Reply   
Where do you guys get the lead?
Old     (bwake)      Join Date: Sep 2009       07-16-2014, 2:57 AM Reply   
Mine is melted down rims weights from tyre shops. Put them on a gas stove (outside) and pour the lead into baking tins the size you like. Wrap and all done.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       07-16-2014, 7:43 AM Reply   


I know it prolly wouldn't fill all the way, but couldn't you put this sack under the seats? got a little lead in mine, just don't want it all in the bow.
Old     (Tahoegaper)      Join Date: Jun 2017       05-21-2018, 8:49 AM Reply   
ok I'm in the process of replacing the front ballast in my '04 v215. I can use some advice: i have the outer bag outa there. blue bag is still connected- based on research here, I guess there is the exit line that I need to disconnect and then that blue bag should slide out? any confirmation on that would help. question 2. what did you replace that system with? new bag? - did you get it from wakemakers? what size? or did you just replace with lead? I'm not really thi king that lead is a great idea especially 4-500 lbs is perty permanant... any help here is really appreciated- TG
Old     (jonblarc7)      Join Date: Jul 2006       05-21-2018, 12:29 PM Reply   
https://www.leadwake.com/


Really good product.

I've go about 400 pounds of his stuff in my boat.
Old     (Tahoegaper)      Join Date: Jun 2017       05-21-2018, 3:13 PM Reply   
OK thanks for that link. I do have a couple of of 80 lbs. bags up there but really would prefer to get that ballast fat- sac issue sorted out.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 9:42 AM Reply   
I've looked at adding 2 bags under front seats in my 230. first, those areas are really small, doubt you could get 200 lbs in each. secondly, the add'l pumps, dedicated drain for each side, etc. to me just wasn't worth it. I keep about 300 lbs up front, 150 under each seat. move the lead side to side when I need to. takes about 2 minutes to switch sides.

IMO lead is the best option.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 10:26 AM Reply   
edit's not sticking for some reason..

if you decide to melt it, please use the proper respirator. that ****'ll mess you up
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       05-24-2018, 12:54 PM Reply   
THIS IS OFF TOPIC FROM THIS THREAD**

Does anyone out there have a Sanger V-210 (97-99) and use it for wake surfing and have success? I've been able to surf the starboard side, but the port side i'm having issues with. I just purchased the swell wakesurf creator, but still having issues. Anyone know of any "tricks of the trade" if you will?
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 1:29 PM Reply   
yea, slam that bitch till the rub rail is in the water. 60/40 back to front weight.

need to run 1100 lb bags in the back and about 700 up front
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 1:31 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by Tahoegaper View Post
ok I'm in the process of replacing the front ballast in my '04 v215. I can use some advice: i have the outer bag outa there. blue bag is still connected- based on research here, I guess there is the exit line that I need to disconnect and then that blue bag should slide out? any confirmation on that would help. question 2. what did you replace that system with? new bag? - did you get it from wakemakers? what size? or did you just replace with lead? I'm not really thi king that lead is a great idea especially 4-500 lbs is perty permanant... any help here is really appreciated- TG
what blue bag are you talking about, one in the ski locker?
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 2:07 PM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATB0713 View Post
THIS IS OFF TOPIC FROM THIS THREAD**

Does anyone out there have a Sanger V-210 (97-99) and use it for wake surfing and have success? I've been able to surf the starboard side, but the port side i'm having issues with. I just purchased the swell wakesurf creator, but still having issues. Anyone know of any "tricks of the trade" if you will?
port side should surf easier than starboard. how much weight you running?
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       05-24-2018, 3:02 PM Reply   
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Originally Posted by denverd1 View Post
port side should surf easier than starboard. how much weight you running?
About 1000 up front, and around 300 in the back. She's old, and with the motor in the back it naturally sits low. I'm just a tad bit skeptical putting the bilge below the water. Have you had any success with a 210?

I got the Swell Wakesurf Creator b/c of all the hype around these wake surf attachments. I'm semi-satisfied. Just looking to see if anyone has had success, and what they did.
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-24-2018, 3:21 PM Reply   
well that's your problem! I've got a 230, yes lot's of success with it. formula is the same....

check valve your bilge line
Old     (CALIV210)      Join Date: Jun 2015       05-25-2018, 7:17 AM Reply   
Quote:
Originally Posted by ATB0713 View Post
THIS IS OFF TOPIC FROM THIS THREAD**

Does anyone out there have a Sanger V-210 (97-99) and use it for wake surfing and have success? I've been able to surf the starboard side, but the port side i'm having issues with. I just purchased the swell wakesurf creator, but still having issues. Anyone know of any "tricks of the trade" if you will?
maybe this thread will help you out some .
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798490
Old     (ATB0713)      Join Date: Oct 2013       05-29-2018, 9:55 AM Reply   
[QUOTE=CALIV210;1978230]maybe this thread will help you out some .
http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798490[/QUOTE

Thanks! that was actually really helpful. I went out last weekend and had some great success!!
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004       05-29-2018, 1:51 PM Reply   
good to hear

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