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Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-04-2007, 8:46 PM Reply   
Does anyone know if Sanger wakeboard boats have changed their hull design anytime between 2003 to 2006? If so what are the key differences.
Old     (boarder_x)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-04-2007, 9:05 PM Reply   
I don't think so. I was going to ask the guy yesterday at the show, but forgot.

Send Tate a PM. ... He'll know.
Old     (chas)      Join Date: Feb 2002       02-04-2007, 10:21 PM Reply   
No changes
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-04-2007, 10:23 PM Reply   
Thanks for the quick reply
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-04-2007, 10:47 PM Reply   
I heard they changed the V230 hull for 07. Any1 know if this is true?
Old    DRA            02-05-2007, 8:08 AM Reply   
NO CHANGE;

This is not a bad thing. Sanger is not broke and has a incredible wake. No need to mess with a perfect design. Now I do think it would be good to see a 100% new design from Sanger but right now I don't see the industry getting to radically innovative for them to be left behind. The biggest things I see changing is to better the interior configurations to maximize ballast and people.
Old     (ghostrider_2)      Join Date: Aug 2004       02-05-2007, 3:44 PM Reply   
If it aint broke don't try to fix it! Thats a big mistake alot of companies make!!
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-05-2007, 6:59 PM Reply   
I heard from a Sanger dealer, who heard directly from Sanger, that they are changing the V230 hull. I don't know when, or maybe Sanger changed their plans.

The V230 puts out a great rampy wake. I think Wakeboarding Mag's description of it is dead on.

"Most riders are either intermediate or beginner, so these wakes offer plenty to play on with the factory ballast sinking the deep-V hull. Transitions are smooth and landing zones are especially big. Throw on more ballast and advanced riders will start smiling"

^^^This is exactly my experience.

Anyways, the only problem with the V230's hull in my opinion is when it weighted down with lots of ballast or people, it really tends lock sideways on turns.

IMO, if Sanger could fix this, this would be the perfect boat for me...in the future.
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-05-2007, 9:16 PM Reply   
What do you mean it locks sideways, is that the same for all the sanger models?
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-05-2007, 10:45 PM Reply   
no, just the V230, i forget the correct term, it's not completely sideways at all...that was the wrong word to use...it's just slanted
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       02-06-2007, 7:16 PM Reply   
Are you guys talking about "chine locking"? I've never heard of this on any Sanger model.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-06-2007, 11:06 PM Reply   
yes "chine locking", that's it.

it only happens on the V230 model when weighted down.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-06-2007, 11:07 PM Reply   
^^^I've been on a V215 and it does not happen.

AND I've heard that the V210 handles even better.
Old    DRA            02-07-2007, 10:15 AM Reply   
Charlie,

The v230 bottom and the 215 is the same bottom just slightly bigger. I think you will find all boats with a lot of weight over stock ballast will have some roll when making sharp turn.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-07-2007, 2:10 PM Reply   
DRA,

I know they have the same hull. Problem is the shape doesn't work quite as well on the V230 because, like you said, it's bigger. (This is my guess, maybe it just needs bigger fins????)

I'm just going on my experience. From your experience, does the V215 tend to chine lock on tight turns (especially when weighted)? I personally thought the V215 handled better than the V230 when weighted down.

I've been in other boats such as a 07 Malibu VLX. It was fully weighted down and had tons of people. As much as I don't care for Malibu (I have my reasons that I won't list), that thing turned on a dime and had no roll (or close to it).

I don't mind a little roll, but chine locking on the V230 is not normal or it shouldn't be.

Other than that the V230 is perfect in my mind. It has better wake shape than the V215 (IMO), I just can't stand the cine locking.

(Message edited by jovedawake on February 07, 2007)
Old    walt            02-07-2007, 4:08 PM Reply   
IMO the V230 doesn't turn well when heavily weighted but neither does the VLX when slammed. I wouldn't expect one of these bigger boats to handle like a little 21 footer though.
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-08-2007, 11:13 AM Reply   
New question about Sanger boats,

What would be your choice in this instance.
Some one is selling a 04 Sanger V210, has a lot of goodies(board racks, stereo, many stock options) on it but no perfect pass and really low hours and good condition,price $31,900 obo

or

04 V215 loaded to the hilt, tower speakers, upgraded ballast, bow filler cushion, stereo, additional board racks. About 350 hours well used but also well maintained. $37,500 obo (Sanger215 guy I'm sure you know what boat I'm talking about so please any additional input besides what you have provided already would be good.)

Any information on wakeboarding experiences would be good, like wake shape, driving, problems
Old    stillstandin            02-08-2007, 12:28 PM Reply   
I would say it depends on the size of your crew. If you riding with a small family, or small group of friends, I would say V210, but if you have a group of say 6 or more, you cant go wrong with the V215, it is an awesome boat. I would have to disagree with Charlie, I think the V215 is the best shaped wake in Sangers line up, and my favorite shape I have ridden (thats why I bought one).
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       02-08-2007, 12:45 PM Reply   
210 is the best wake to weight ratio in the line. Like Craig said if you usualy go out with more than five or six people, go for the 215 for the room. If you're after the biggest wake with the least amount of weight, (easier on the boat and fuel) go 210. The 215 wake is wider as well. You can ride further back on the 210.
Old     (rallyart)      Join Date: Nov 2006       02-08-2007, 12:47 PM Reply   
I'd pick the V215 which has higher freeboard and more room to spread out. Unless you want the lighter and more trailerable benefits of the 210
Old    DRA            02-08-2007, 1:45 PM Reply   
If your going for wake shape it comes down to what you like in the shape. If you want a more abrupt wake then that is what the 210 has, if you like more rampy then the 215 is the winner. The 210 is definately a smaller boat and the older version with out the 215 interior feels true to its size. I think the new interior layout is a big improvement for the 210. The 215 feels bigger inside than it is. It has lots of good storage and performs well along with more freeboard. it really comes down to what YOU want. I would test drive both and see how you like each. They are definately both good boats. I would tell you to go with the 215 myself simply because most people with the 210 wind up wishing they had the 215 (I DID SAY MOST SO DON"T FLAME). Alot of the guys buy the 210 due to garage size but my 215 fits in mine.
Old     (load)      Join Date: Jul 2003       02-08-2007, 1:48 PM Reply   
As it has already been said, both great boats. Owning a V230, I would buy a 215. I love my boat but it is a beast, great on a camping trip though. Try them both. Also with the 215's freeboard it makes the seating higher off the floor which for a tall person is more comfortable.
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-08-2007, 1:59 PM Reply   
That actually helps a lot, so in 2004 the V210 interior is not as nice as the V215 or what makes the V210 interior different in the newer boats?

I'm the same with sitting off the floor a little higher. I'm not to worried about the trailering aspect of it and I do prefer the extra space to layout. In your guys opinion is the V215 worth almost 6000 more for added space and a wider wake. Leaving the people factor out of it. Both sound like great wakes. I guess you have to factor in an additional $2000-$3000+ to make the V210 for sale into a kick ass wakeboard boat.
Old     (redv215)      Join Date: Mar 2005       02-08-2007, 2:01 PM Reply   
We looked @ both when we got ours. Myself I like the wake of the 215 and more room is always better. Defintely ride in both and then make a decision. You cant go wrong with either, it's a Sanger. Let us know what you decide.
Old     (big_ed_x2)      Join Date: Jul 2004       02-08-2007, 2:01 PM Reply   
Never really spent too much time in the 210 but I LOVE the 215.....
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-08-2007, 2:15 PM Reply   
That seems like the general consensus, about the V215. I rode in an 05 V215 last year on the delta and was very happy. Felt a little bouncy with some tower rattle going over rollers but I think the weight was off and we were cruising over 25mph, not wakeboard speed.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-08-2007, 3:37 PM Reply   
Definately test drive both, the 210 will produce a bigger wake with the same weight and is an easier to tow package.

IMO the V215 is probably a better fit for the larger crew or family based riders where the 210 is more focused as a hard core riders boat with crew 6 or less.
If you don't mind spending more $$$ on gas for the truck and boat then the 215 is probably a better option. Having said that we love our 210 it is a very good fit for our crew.

I have also had our V210 chine lock twice, both times we were slammed to the point of sinking, my prop was slightly tweeked and the driver was pulling some serious g-force turns. It came out easy enough by softening up the throttle but was a bit unnerving. I run a lot of weight bias forward to mellow the wake out so that might have contibuted to it as well.
Old     (norcal_wakejunky)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-08-2007, 3:41 PM Reply   
Wow, thats pretty crazy. Would hate to have that happen in a busy area and hit another boat or Jet Ski.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-08-2007, 3:45 PM Reply   
We have 450hrs on the boat now and it happended about 18 months ago, both times in back to back trips, pretty sure it was a combination of the above factors, under normal use the Sangers handling is rock solid and predictable.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 6:11 PM Reply   
Craig,

Just wondering if you have ever been towed behind a V230? Properly weighted of course.
Old    stillstandin            02-08-2007, 6:49 PM Reply   
Charlie, Yes, no disrespect intended. Just an opinion. V230 is an excellant boat.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 7:00 PM Reply   
i wasn't offended at all. You must like a wake with a little more steepness than the V230 than?
Old    DRA            02-08-2007, 9:13 PM Reply   
Charlie,

I ride all three models in the Sanger line regulary. All have great wakes but the 230 needs an additional 2000 lbs to really see the wake potiental. Then it really kicks up. I will say Darren has the biggest 210 wake I have seen. But I am not sure I will say it produces a bigger wake. It definately is way more abrupt so the steepness is seems greater due to how quick it peaks. But size should be determined by sure mass vrs displacement of water. So that should mean that a bigger deeper hull would produce a bigger wake. I know my 215 has produced a clean BIG wake but it has always been hard to tell if a wake is truly bigger than another when the shapes are very diffrent. Or I am way off and full of lead.
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       02-08-2007, 9:26 PM Reply   
" a bigger deeper hull would produce a bigger wake"

Correct. Only drawback is it needs considerably more weight to do it, which is harder on the engine/boat and fuel usage. And, generaly, the wider the boat, the wider the wake which might mean having to ride a shorter line. It all comes down to personal needs.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 9:43 PM Reply   
yeah, we put about 2000 lbs in ours..400 in each rear locker (800), 500 in the ski locker, and 500 in the nose. Plus 5-6 people in the back of the boat. One my cousins who weighs 200lbs is nice to have :-).

I just know I like a rampy wake. And as far as I know the V230 has the least vert wake in the bunch. Am I correct or mistaken?

The V215 does handle better though, i just think the wake is a bit more steep.
Old    stillstandin            02-08-2007, 9:44 PM Reply   
Charlie, yes, Thats what I like about the V215, it is right in the middle of steep, and rampy. The SAN210 is to steep for me, and I have ridden a couple of different boats I thougth were a little to rampy.
Old    stillstandin            02-08-2007, 9:47 PM Reply   
The 230 I rode, had about 1500 pounds if I remember correctly. Dont get me wrong, it had a great wake, just a preference. On another note, I did hear within the past week from a Sanger salesmen, that a new 230 was in the works, and will be hear eventually. Apperently, it will be a true 23 foot hull. Should be interesting.
Old     (wake_upppp)      Join Date: Nov 2003       02-08-2007, 9:57 PM Reply   
The thing is vert and ramp can be adjusted in almost any model including SAN's by adjusting weight distribution differently between front and rear. I've ridden Super Airs that were not that verty at all. I think wake firmness has more to do with pop than we give it credit for.
Old    DRA            02-08-2007, 10:00 PM Reply   
Charlie,

The best we had in a 230 was 250 aditional in each rear locker 500 additional mid ship and 600 in the nose and 400 in lead spread throughout. The wake was huge and so lippy at the top. But it definately needs to be re-proped to plane quicker.

I definately agree craig that the san and v210 is similar in shape I think the X1/X2 is similar to the V215.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 10:01 PM Reply   
while on the topic of sanger...did you guys see those pictures posted a few days ago? with the new towers???

sweet.

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Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 10:04 PM Reply   
yeah, we have a acme 911 3-blade prop on ours. it takes off pretty quick with a ton of weight...we had 14 people in there once :-) that was fun!
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-08-2007, 10:11 PM Reply   
what other boats do you think have a similar wake to the V230?

i've also been behind my friends 04 Malibu 21 XTi and we both thought our wakes were similar.
Old     (magnusm)      Join Date: Dec 2003       02-08-2007, 11:47 PM Reply   
Steve - my $0.02 in owning a V210 (an '03), but riding a several times in both V215's and a V230, I'd probably go for a V215, if I was buying a replacement for my 210. I'm not sure in the description you had whether I'd pay an extra $6K though, but maybe when you factor in the options it's closer to $3K. I was going to originally buy a new 215 before I found just what I was looking for in a slightly used (20hrs) 210. I love my 210 for it's easy trailering, easy on the gas and to me an excellent wake without a ton of weight.
The 215 interior is way better than the old 210's though, the new ones it's a toss up, but in an '04, it's the 215 interior hands down. The 230 gives you tons of space and with a good amount of extra weight over stock it really puts out an impressive wake; down side is that the performance definately suffers with the extra weight plus the bigger boat to start with.
You really can't go wrong with any of these, but seems like the 215 gives the best overall combination of space, performance and wake. Between the 210 and the 215 I'd look at them both and drive them and figure out what you'd have to add to the 210 to get it ready for riding (PP at a minimum). Good luck.
Old     (jv_v210)      Join Date: Jan 2007       02-08-2007, 11:47 PM Reply   
Always been happy with my 04 v210. The wake and the ride are very nice. I have had more than 6 and storage loaded up, and have never complained about room. I also looked at the new interior at the pleasanton boat show. It looks o.k. but you sanger owners know, it is getting a little cheap looking in my opinion. I have split black/white gel coat on my top deck, and now it is all white, very plain and cheap looking.My upholstery is all piped with black, now it is all monochromatic. Also, the bow cushion in my 04 v210 are hinged, the 07 cushions are all loose,,, don't like that. With all that said and done, still love the Sangers.
Old    walt            02-09-2007, 5:41 AM Reply   
The new tower looks like it will unstable.
Old    mendo247            02-09-2007, 9:01 AM Reply   
Wow... that new tower is definetly a new look for sanger, id have to agree with walt that it looks a little unstable, time will tell..
Old    stillstandin            02-09-2007, 9:48 AM Reply   
Im glad to see they are looking at new options for towers, nothing wrong with being able to have a couple different ones to pick from. My favorite as of right now is the chubby tower. That thing is SOLID. JerryV, I think its how you option it out. I saw a 06 V210 recently that had two tone interior, and billet stuff on the inside. Looked sharp.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-09-2007, 11:05 AM Reply   
well Epic boats is using the same tower. And I have heard many times from them, "we created a boat that wakeboarders can take out and beat around."

if that is what they claim, then i would hope they chose a sturdy tower.


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Old     (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-09-2007, 11:57 AM Reply   
I spoke with Tim Pellaton of Sanger Boats today and he said they have been using the same hulls on all of their boats since 1986! He said that their hulls were always marketed at the normal joe who doesn't have a private lake and the boat needs to be able to take some pounding. That's where their hull design came in handy. Allowed it to take waves and still throw a good wake for whatever you are doing.

He said the hulls are the same between the DD and the V-drives too. They still use wood stringers, but they have a lifetime warranty. He was saying that they had some problems in the 80's with them, but by 90's there were really no issues anymore.

(Message edited by Antoddio on February 09, 2007)
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-09-2007, 1:09 PM Reply   
"On another note, I did hear within the past week from a Sanger salesmen, that a new 230 was in the works, and will be hear eventually. Apperently, it will be a true 23 foot hull. Should be interesting."

Ask him about that Todd.
Old    DRA            02-09-2007, 1:39 PM Reply   
Well first you would be talking to Scott Pellaton, and he is the man and word for Sanger. I know they are finalizing a new tower and it is built 100% in house. They had one of the almost final prototypes at the Pleasanton show and the tower has some very positive features in it. I am very partial to the swoop look on the Sanger so the new towers lacking some of the swoop lines and bars tend to look cheap to me. It is not a cheap tower in reality and is very sturdy and solidly built but "For ME" it is not the look I want in my tower. Somewhere there was a picture of the yellow Sanger at the Pleasanton show with the now graphic on it and it is the one with the new tower. I have not heard about a completely new 230 but it could be coming.
Old    stillstandin            02-09-2007, 2:33 PM Reply   
Ya Gary, I saw that new tower at the P-town boat show, def not for me either. I would take the chubby over that everyday of the week.
Old     (antoddio)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-09-2007, 2:45 PM Reply   
I'll ask. And it's def Tim Pellaton.
Old     (ralph)      Join Date: Apr 2002       02-09-2007, 3:14 PM Reply   
Tim must be Scotts brother, ha ha. If they are developing an in house tower I hope it looks like the Supra one, they are the best looking towers on the market IMO.
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       02-09-2007, 6:47 PM Reply   
Here is the tower you guys are talking about. I'm not a huge fan either. It looks cheap and flimsy. Although it could be sturdy.

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Old    DRA            02-09-2007, 9:51 PM Reply   
It is sturdy, and is very trick in how it fold down. It keeps from resting on the upholstery.
Old     (toneus)      Join Date: Feb 2007       02-14-2007, 4:08 PM Reply   
Simple looking hull, but it makes a great wake.

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Old     (jumpit13)      Join Date: Oct 2006       02-14-2007, 9:09 PM Reply   
My friend has a V210 rode behind it alot (loved the wake), when it was time for us to buy looked into V210 and V215, the V230 was just alittle to big with the storage issues for us and the V210 was just not big enough for are family of 7 with all the kids stuff. V215 was the right fit. My 2cents rides better in chop,has more storage and the wake just as nice or better, but like what was said before more gas in tow vehicle and boat but well worth it for my family.
Old     (stephan)      Join Date: Nov 2002       02-15-2007, 12:35 AM Reply   
I've never ridden a 215 but I have ridden the 210 extensively and actually got to ride behind the owner of Proflight's 230. The 230 was well loaded down and the wake was big and quite nice, crazy wide too. My profile picture is behind a loaded 210 with a load of ballast and literally a dozen people. The wake was epic. Whats really nice is that after you drain all that ballast the 210 is a little race car on the water, tight handling and incredibly fun to drive. 210's rock!!

(Message edited by Stephan on February 15, 2007)
Old     (toneus)      Join Date: Feb 2007       02-15-2007, 8:52 AM Reply   
Let me start by saying that I LOVE my V230! But in reference to the chine locking, it is true.

There have been a couple of times on the CA Delta, which is composed of mostly levy slews that near the end of a waterway, you can pull a tight 180 turn and return up the very waterway you just boarded. However, if you don't crank the turn, you can find yourself in a chinned state. When this first happened to me, I was headed at a levy fully weighted, on the perfect pass, and a boarder on the line. I started a comfortable left 180. Literally, half way through the turn, the boat appeared perfectly balanced in a left turn, but we were going straight at the levy wall! Impact in 5,4,3! I knew my boarder was running wide during the turn. So I decided it was safe to bury the throttle in reverse. This got everybody on the boat's attention for sure.

I would say that it happens more readily when heavily loaded, but it can happen when running full throttle point to point. I have warned other drivers of my boat that if it chine locks (of course I explain what that is), and they are headed at shore/or god forbid another boat, to go to neutral, and then to reverse as softly as possible, but as firmly as required to come to a full stop ASAP.

I have found that you can remedy the situation by returning to a center steering position, and then make the turn again, but using more rudder deflection on the second attempt to get past the balance point that occurs during a chine lock.

My $.02.

Ride On!
Old     (krbaugh)      Join Date: Mar 2002       02-15-2007, 10:01 AM Reply   
There are both Scott and Tim Pellaton and they are brothers.

This is a Video of Scott http://www.barefootcentral.com/Videos/scott_pellatonSpeedPractice2006a.wmv

He is being pulled behind a new prototype Sanger

(Message edited by krbaugh on February 15, 2007)
Old     (fatsac)      Join Date: Jun 2004       02-15-2007, 10:59 AM Reply   
That video just made me shart. Can you imagine the rush??
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       02-15-2007, 11:12 PM Reply   
just picked up my boat yesterday at kal kustoms and saw the new tower there. the one in the upper pics like the epic. it looks great. sounds like new sanger orders should have the option between the new tower or pro flight. not 100% sure though didnt get a straight answer. but the tower folds down nice. the rear uprights collapse inward bringing the tower below the winshield. looks great for thoose with garage hight problems. as for the one the displayed at the boat show, do not like it. i agree with the cheap coments. it reminds me of when they tried the G-force tower from pro flight. great look terrible strenght. i guess im just a guy who is afraid of dramatic change. "if it aint broke, dont fix it." the chubby tower is great. also, no change in the v215 hull, and its called aqua beam construction. solid boats, great in the rough stuff and the stringers are garantied for life.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       02-19-2007, 3:25 PM Reply   
Uh, in the delta there are levees and sloughs. When your boarder eats it, come to a stop and turn at idle, DO NOT POWER TURN, and you won't ever scare or hurt your friends in any boat, you won't have to jamb it into reverse and look like a rookie.(why throw a giant roller that your boarder is going to have to get up through?
And yes Tim and Scott are the brothers Pellaton.
Old     (toneus)      Join Date: Feb 2007       02-19-2007, 6:07 PM Reply   
Thanks for the spelling lesson. Nobody said the boarder ate it. Just that we were turning around, and the boat Chine Locked. And when I say crank, I mean turn past the point of possible lock. You do turn around don't you? And when you are at the end of a slough, you're not sending a roller down the length of the good water. We were way down on the back side of Orwood. I am the farthest thing from a power turner. Hell when I'm running from point to point, and I come upon a fishing boat, or a boat parked, I'll use a slight turn rounding them to reduce the size of my wake on that side of the boat. And if we are even within 50 feet, I'll bring the boat off plane and pass at 5 mph. You're probably one of those boats that goes ripping by Skier's Beach, or follows another boat with a boarder on the line. I bet that wake Nazi with the speakers on her dock in Disco is your Grandmother.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-03-2007, 8:56 PM Reply   
i never go fast past skibeach...if there are boats there. and i ski in a dead end slough much too narrow for wakeboarding. orwood is my breakfast table and bar, i only go to slow water if there is a party. i don't have a clue about any speakers in disco, you and she are aquainted though I take it. Thats not a very nice thing to say about her though.
Old     (toneus)      Join Date: Feb 2007       03-05-2007, 8:47 AM Reply   
You're right, you don't have a clue. Try opening your eyes. And there you go assuming things again. You are a N00b.
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       03-06-2007, 5:52 PM Reply   
sounds like you heard the speakers telling you NO WAKE...just get over it and learn to drive your boat correctly and work on your spelling and maybe you'll grow up one day Bunky. And you should be nice, it might be me who tows you back to the dock after you tear out your running gear on the rocks...it wouldn't be the first time...
Old     (jovedawake)      Join Date: Mar 2006       03-06-2007, 6:13 PM Reply   
Toneus,

Glad to see I'm not the only one that think the V230 has a major chine locking problem...

"I have found that you can remedy the situation by returning to a center steering position, and then make the turn again, but using more rudder deflection on the second attempt to get past the balance point that occurs during a chine lock."
^^^Can you explain this a little more? I think I get it, but just to make sure...

Here is another trick that works brilliantly, but is a pain sometimes if the boat has tons of people in it. I have a 6'4 cousin who weigh's 250 lbs. He normally sits in the back, middle seat. And as soon as I begin my VERY sharp turn, he puts his body weight on the side of the boat that wants to lift up. This allows the boat to turn on a dime.

Sanger really does need to fix this. The wake is awesome and everything else is great.
Old     (toneus)      Join Date: Feb 2007       03-06-2007, 6:47 PM Reply   
Mavy, I can see exactly how that weight shift would work. That's some serious ballast. That's exactly how I put my 220 lbs to work on the waverunner. Like you said, it turns on a dime. I'd do the leaning in the boat myself, but it's more fun to drive.

I just moved out to GA, and it's amazing how many people are drawn to the Sanger. So many have never heard of it, let alone seen one in person. I just think the boat gets treated like a red-headed step child. Anyway, enjoy your ride!

Cheers!

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