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Old     (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-29-2004, 1:29 PM Reply   
Its like the 70s all over again.

Gas prices are going through the roof and the american companies are focused on bigger gas guzzling boats (xstar, LSV and 25' boats).

It seems like a good time for a wakeboard boat start up - put the toyota motor in the SAN hull with the VLX interior.

The only boat any serious wakeboarder would ever need!
Old     (jonb)      Join Date: Oct 2003       05-29-2004, 3:33 PM Reply   
all any of the boats need is the 2-speed trany that is in the MB's. Save 30% on fuel consuption. and you dont actually think that your ideal boat could get up to speed do you.
Old     (jinxton)      Join Date: Mar 2002       05-29-2004, 9:04 PM Reply   
Dane I think that would be the best combination boat, and thats coming from a Toyota owner
Old     (toyotafreak)      Join Date: Sep 2003       05-29-2004, 9:54 PM Reply   
On the other list, my signature says, "at 4 gph, who cares about $3 gas?" Probly burn more fuel getting to the lake than towing on it.

Would be cool to pick up some Boeing guys and have them build a hull from the wake forward using REAL fluid dynamics software/knowhow. Then we put a Duramax in it and call it good. And have the Toy guys come back to do what they do best - make it look good and last a long time.
Old     (wkerat)      Join Date: Sep 2002       05-29-2004, 10:06 PM Reply   
gas may be higher, but think of it, even if it is a dollar higher per gallon and u get 4 gallons an hour you only spend an extra $400 if u put 100 hours on the boat. This may seem like a ton to some, but take that the average wakeboard boat costs say 40,000 and a good board with bindings is over 400, it is not that bad for something you enjoy, just make sure your friends throw in for some gas...Where i am at it really doesn't matter since most people get around 35 hours a season on their boats so they really aren't seeing that drastic a change.
Old     (wkerat)      Join Date: Sep 2002       05-29-2004, 10:07 PM Reply   
Forgot to say, but I heard that their is gonna be a new vlx for 05 that will be both longer and wider, and also is supposed to have something like 1300 lbs of ballast in it and a new hull, so we will see.
Old     (greatdane)      Join Date: Feb 2001       05-29-2004, 11:34 PM Reply   
Up front costs are different from running costs.

Running costs are on the crew.

Up front costs are on the owner.
Old     (maristar210)      Join Date: Nov 2003       05-30-2004, 8:45 PM Reply   
the marina here in ks keeps gas cheaper than at quicktrip. 1.94 yesterday. 2.09 at quicktrip.
Old     (socalwakepunk)      Join Date: Dec 2002       05-30-2004, 8:50 PM Reply   
$1.94???? I think I'm gonna be sick!!
Old     (talltigeguy)      Join Date: Sep 2003       05-31-2004, 12:42 AM Reply   
I rode a Toyota epic last week with 2000 pounds +/- and it was tough waiting to finally get to speed after 30-45 seconds. I don't know if other prop or engine options would make a difference, but the engine was very anemic with that setup. Otherwise the fit and finish and the wake were excellent!
Old     (tripleup)      Join Date: Apr 2004       05-31-2004, 10:16 AM Reply   
I pulled up at a marina Saturday and was expecting to pay $2.50 plus, gas was only $1.79 that was cheaper than on land! Lake Chicot, LAke Village, AR.
Old     (auto)      Join Date: Aug 2002       05-31-2004, 7:02 PM Reply   
diesel was only $1.65, on the water at Lake Degray was $2.38 a gallon, not too bad at all.
Old    tribal            06-01-2004, 7:16 AM Reply   
Here in BC CAD we are paying $4.00CAD a gallon which is about $3.00US and that's at the car pumps.I'd hate to see what it's gonna be at the marinas.
Old     (jonb)      Join Date: Oct 2003       06-01-2004, 8:02 AM Reply   
my neighbor went to Lake Tollic, in central ca, and he said that on the water it was $3.80 a gallon
Old     (uga33)      Join Date: Jul 2003       06-01-2004, 8:11 AM Reply   
I paid $2.15 on the lake sunday, however my gas tank is a 36 gallon tank and when I filled it up at the marina it was just under a half a tank and it took 31 gallons uhmmm!
Old     (villageidiot)      Join Date: Feb 2004       06-01-2004, 8:22 AM Reply   
I had to post...I love the title of this thread!!! :-)

I had my Toyota out at Lake Pateros, WA the weekend, and with about 5 people wakeboarding for 2 days. We used about 3/4 of a tank for the whole time. We did some cruising and running around to find good water, also. Most of the time, we were running with about 2300-2400 pounds in the boat (ballast and people). We were burning right around 3 gph.

Talltigeguy -- I would guess that if your buddy was having problems getting out of the hole in his Toyota, it was probaby because the boat wasn't weighted right. With the stepped hull in the stern, it's important that the weight in the Toyotas is pretty close to 50/50...otherwise they have a lot of bow rise, and a lot of time out of the hole. Tell him to move the weight forward...they should get out of the hole fine at 2k. Much more than that, and they get a little sluggish.
Old     (stef)      Join Date: May 2002       06-03-2004, 2:13 PM Reply   
hello guys, stop crying. here in switzerland we pay 1.5 sfr for 1 liter so that now 4.5$ per gallon
Old     (dbjts)      Join Date: Nov 2003       06-04-2004, 12:09 PM Reply   
And you Swiss' its $7.55 on lake Windermere England
Old    yellowdog            06-04-2004, 12:58 PM Reply   
Derek,

I agree with your concept; however, lets put a Cummins in the boat and get some real fuel economy. . . :-)
Old     (domin8)      Join Date: Mar 2004       06-05-2004, 11:20 PM Reply   
We paid $3.11 at Shasta last week at the Bridge Bay dock. We heard it was 7 cents less at Holiday Holiday Harbor.
Old     (toyotafreak)      Join Date: Sep 2003       06-06-2004, 7:23 AM Reply   
Hey, we do have to use super unleaded. Forgot to mention that. As for mine, there's gotta be a really good reason to put something other than Chevron super in there.

S22 Curves
Old     (radikal)      Join Date: Feb 2004       06-07-2004, 9:54 AM Reply   
My cousin have the prototype of a water motor, in 2 weeks he will have it install in his car and right after that we put this in my boat it cost me 950$ to convert my boat to a water boat !!!!

think about that
Old    tommyadrian5            06-08-2004, 10:15 AM Reply   
Radikal, i'm still thinking, and your post still confuses me.


You all wanna cry, i was just in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates for a week.

Gas was between $1 and $1.10 per gallon, FOR 95 OCTANE!

105 Octane (also known in the U.S. as race fuel) was $1.35 per gallon, this is us dollars btw

I might be moving there for a year, and one thing i won't mind is the gas prices.

BTW, in Saudi Arabia gas is $0.30 per gallon, cause its homegrown, UAE doesn't refine its own gas, so its more.
Old     (toyotafreak)      Join Date: Sep 2003       06-08-2004, 12:46 PM Reply   
When you come back from next trip, would you mind bringing back a Fat Seat full of that 105 for me?

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