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Old     (2007_x2)      Join Date: May 2007       12-17-2008, 1:13 AM Reply   
im excited to see how it turns out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnJ5x9jdKA

http://mastercraft.com/300/
Old     (dreevs)      Join Date: Jul 2002       12-17-2008, 5:18 AM Reply   
Yep - Im headed to the Miami show to see it!
Old     (ponte_06_x2)      Join Date: Jan 2006       12-17-2008, 7:12 AM Reply   
i wonder if it comes with a x2 as a pontoon boat
Old     (fatsac)      Join Date: Jun 2004       12-17-2008, 7:42 AM Reply   
The renderings look awesome. How sick to have that bouyed on Tahoe. Did anyone notice the dry weight? 12500 is one heavy 30-footer.
Old     (boomshot)      Join Date: Jan 2008       12-17-2008, 8:15 AM Reply   
W O W

That thing uses an X80 as a tender. It's mounted on the bow and gets lowered with a davit. G*d d*mn MasterCraft aims for the high end of the market even in this economy.
Old     (bazel)      Join Date: Oct 2001       12-17-2008, 11:20 AM Reply   
That is a beautiful ride. I wonder what that will start at?
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       12-17-2008, 7:41 PM Reply   
railings are FUGLY, otherwise it looks pretty cool
Old     (bigshow)      Join Date: Feb 2005       12-17-2008, 7:53 PM Reply   
Bazel, around 1200 RPMs, then after it warms up it should settle down to 800 RPMs. Lower if it's a diesel.
Old     (boomshot)      Join Date: Jan 2008       12-18-2008, 3:00 AM Reply   
160k would not be out of the question for this "day yacht".

****.
Old     (ncsuuh)      Join Date: Jan 2007       12-18-2008, 6:47 AM Reply   
I would expect it to be closer to 200k. The 265 with twin engines goes for 165k. I wouldn't be surprised to see this one just shy of $250k after it is all said and done.
Old     (nautiquesonly)      Join Date: Sep 2007       12-18-2008, 7:08 AM Reply   
That is pretty cool however MC is making sooo many models now that it kinda scares me. It doesn't seem like they are hurting at all but does anyone think items like this may begin to overextend companies like mc in this economy. Part of the problem with GM is too many owned names and different models. Just my 2 cents. Props to MC for being innovative. I just don't want to see quality of other models that we all enjoy on here suffer because of ideas like this.
Old     (boomshot)      Join Date: Jan 2008       12-18-2008, 4:43 PM Reply   
According to the latest issue of WaterSki the 265 lists for 129 or so k.

I'm sure this Day Yacht (****) **** has to be in here because cool boat or not, that's just the douch'iest category name I've ever heard.

Layoffs, falling markets, people losing their retirements... "Day Yacht".

Anyway I bet options could put this Day Yacht into the 150-200k range. God that's almost as much as I make in a year. Who has that kind of cash if I don't?

All of this said its one of my favorite boats currently in production. I'd name mine ****.

(Message edited by boomshot on December 18, 2008)
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       12-18-2008, 4:57 PM Reply   
its ugly!?

straight up ugleeeeeeeee
Old     (roughrivermike)      Join Date: Apr 2006       12-18-2008, 5:13 PM Reply   
Andy wrote ""its ugly!?

straight up ugleeeeeeeee""

Please...You have got to be kidding! There is nothing ugly about it. At lease it doesn't have a pole on top of a tower!
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       12-18-2008, 5:24 PM Reply   
no not kidding there is nothing attractive about it.

jealous of my pole eh?
Old     (roughrivermike)      Join Date: Apr 2006       12-18-2008, 5:30 PM Reply   
No pole envy here.. But ugly is not a word to describe it. It will be an unbelievable boat. It may not be for everyone, but it will be cool.
Old     (srh00z)      Join Date: Jun 2003       12-18-2008, 5:58 PM Reply   
Seems like MC is looking at different markets much like CC did in their earlier days. They built a wide variety of boats in the post war era if I am not mistaken.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       12-18-2008, 6:05 PM Reply   
If you think that is ugly, then I would say we are 180 degrees apart in taste. I think it's sick. If money were no option and I wanted a 30 footer, this would be on the list.
Old     (dreevs)      Join Date: Jul 2002       12-19-2008, 5:38 AM Reply   
Its wakeworld - everyone has some weird tastes. I really think its a cool looking boat, but its obviously not a wakeboat and therefore most wont understand it.
If I had the scratch - I would already own it, but thats because I am familier with Mastercraft and their quality.
In order to make this boat a "contender" in this class, Mastercraft is going to have to appeal to boaters who may have never heard of them. The huge Mastercraft following in the wake and ski boat community will be a minority in the 300's purchases. Curious to see how it turns out for them. I respect the "take risks - safe is boring" innovative approach.
Old     (alindquist)      Join Date: Mar 2004       12-19-2008, 5:59 AM Reply   
I personally think that the railing would have to go. Other than that it's a pretty boat. Are there any pictures of the inside? I wonder how much "X-Star Bling" will be on it. I personally think they will need to tone it down to capture the "Cobalt Market" but we'll see.
Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       12-19-2008, 6:45 AM Reply   
Boating magazine had their boat of the year was a last minute non-functional pickle fork 40ft Chapperal. It looks very similar to the MC 300. I like both alot. The pickle fork will make for a nice fullsize stateroom. The MC looks like it's channels will be functional so not as heavy weather boat as a deep V or true cat hull. My .02 cents. If I was in the market I'd compare to Cobalt. Good job MC, not sure about your timing but maybe keep it low production numbers until the economy picks up.
Old     (vfalco)      Join Date: Mar 2005       12-20-2008, 12:15 PM Reply   
Great name.

I can't wait for this conversation at boat shows.

Curious Boat Show Attendee:"So what's the deal with this monster?"
MC Salesman: "Thats the new MasterCraft 300."
CBSA: "Wow"
MCS: " I know, right?"
CBSA: "A Mastercraft over 30 feet long with a cabin. That's just madness."
MCS: "Madness?"
MCS kicks CBSA in the chest, sending him hurling into the abyss of a nearby Malibu booth.

MCS: "THIS IS MASTERCRAFT!!!!!!!!"Upload
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-20-2008, 12:55 PM Reply   
I think mastercrafts target market with the X-star, X-45, X-55, X-80, CSX series and now 300 aren't really all that effected by the economy.

Typically speaking these owners do fairly well for themselves and most likely have a stable income, savings, assets, etc.

I see really the market of the X-1 or X-2 getting hit the hardest by the economic downturn.

Also Mastercraft is really pushing it's international presence in the middle east and australia where there tends to be a "bit" of monet kicking around.

We have to remember that Mastercraft is a niche market player and doesn't produce high volumes of boats. I believe it's 14 per day.. for the world... maybe 50-60% allocated for North America and the rest abroad? (Wild Guess)
Old     (phenom_1819)      Join Date: Jan 2008       12-20-2008, 1:48 PM Reply   
I'd be surprised if anybody was able to get into the 300 for $200k stripped. I'd guess that a moderately-loaded boat will sticker for around $300k. Their competition is already in the $250-300k range, I'd guess MC will position themselves above that.
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-20-2008, 2:41 PM Reply   
they will also be a true inboard, while most of the competition is using stern-drives.

I also believe MC is having some diesel engine options which would be great in the coastal areas and larger inland waterways.
Old     (c_cote)      Join Date: Jun 2008       12-20-2008, 7:02 PM Reply   
we have not had a good MC pride thread in a while, someone should get one going
Old     (bftskir)      Join Date: Jan 2004       12-20-2008, 10:58 PM Reply   
yeah those high end buyers probably had 100% of their money "invested" with Madoff.
Old     (wakereviews)      Join Date: Sep 2006       12-21-2008, 5:38 AM Reply   
I'd be suprised if MC was putting out 14 boats a day right now when Malibu is at only 2 according to that article that was posted.
Old     (ncsuuh)      Join Date: Jan 2007       12-21-2008, 4:21 PM Reply   
TheTruth, this is for you: http://www.bayareawatersports.com/searchengine/Details.aspx?diid=1544351&bvdid=3121&type=N&indid= 1&sortCol=Length&sortDir=DESC&

Also, who ever uses "douch'iest" and brags about their income is a troll.
Old     (westsiderippa)      Join Date: Dec 2006       12-21-2008, 4:40 PM Reply   
^^^^^^^lmao^^^^^^^
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-21-2008, 7:28 PM Reply   
I was at the factory... they said they scaled down from 18 to 14 boats a day... Judging by the amount of boats being build I don't doubt the 14...
Old     (gti2lo)      Join Date: Nov 2005       12-21-2008, 7:30 PM Reply   
I was at the factory... they said they scaled down from 18 to 14 boats a day... Judging by the amount of boats being build I don't doubt the 14...
Old     (formfunction)      Join Date: Jun 2008       12-21-2008, 7:53 PM Reply   
What is going on in the economy spans all people rich and poor.Doesn't matter if its invested money or a downturn in a persons business.All facets of finance have taken some type of hit.Even if a person with great wealth takes a small hit its still enough to make them hold out on unecessary toys.
Old     (timmy)      Join Date: Jul 2001       12-22-2008, 6:17 AM Reply   
That is what the rich people would like you to believe.
Old     (roughrivermike)      Join Date: Apr 2006       12-22-2008, 1:31 PM Reply   
I just got my issue of motorboating magazine. It says the base price for the is $250,000.
Old     (malibuboats4)      Join Date: Sep 2008       12-22-2008, 11:02 PM Reply   
^^^^^ HOLYY S#!*^^^^^
Old     (denverd1)      Join Date: May 2004 Location: Tyler       12-23-2008, 6:19 AM Reply   
Truth, I think Douch Wagon fits a little better. But hey, **** is a close second.

$250,000 huh?
"Who has that kind of cash if I don't?"
wealthy people who are actually in the "yacht" market.
Old     (lcky275)      Join Date: Jul 2002       12-23-2008, 7:50 AM Reply   
" http://www.bayareawatersports.com/searchengine/Details.aspx?diid=1544351&bvdid=3121&type=N&indid= 1&sortCol=Length&sortDir=DESC& "

Now that they are truly using towers for fishing, do they have to pay CC royalties?
Old     (wakebrdjay)      Join Date: Apr 2008       12-23-2008, 8:04 AM Reply   
At $170,000.00 MSRP for a 26Ft. boat they can afford to pay royalties.
Old     (themxercr85)      Join Date: Jul 2007       12-23-2008, 10:51 AM Reply   
its inboard right? so we can surf behind it thats gonna be sickkk
Old     (bcail)      Join Date: Aug 2007       12-29-2008, 2:34 PM Reply   
I'm a long time MasterCraft owner so I really hate to ask this, but is being an inboard an advantage for the market this boat is targeted at???

30 foot, twin engine boat with a top speed of 45-50.......my estimate based on other inboards.

Most of the competitors have stern drives that run 60mph plus and get better fuel economy. Although the people shopping for a boat this size probably aren't worried about the economy aspects.
Old     (sailing216)      Join Date: Oct 2007       12-30-2008, 7:00 AM Reply   
And it doesn't have the IPS drive system where you have a joystick and can move the boat sideways without thrusters. High end 30+ ft boats have this as an option. MC is going to narrow their market even further by this advancement in cruiser boats.
Old     (bob_l)      Join Date: Jul 2006       12-30-2008, 1:55 PM Reply   
I think mastercrafts target market with the X-star, X-45, X-55, X-80, CSX series and now 300 aren't really all that effected by the economy.

Typically speaking these owners do fairly well for themselves and most likely have a stable income, savings, assets, etc.



Read here:

http://online.wsj.com/public/b/article/SB123059909346041273.html
Old     (meathead65)      Join Date: Sep 2006       12-30-2008, 2:32 PM Reply   
^^^^ bcail:

Stern drives may be faster, but they are at the bottom of the list for most saltwater buyers. They are prone to corrosion, bellows failure, and generally considered too fragile for serious salt use amongst the fish boat crowd. Outboards and either straight shaft or V drive inboards are much more popular in the salt.

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